Vince and fellow listers- I appreciated Vince's (your) advice. I was appalled the "Freeway" message appeared on this list. I will not participate in any forum that is corrupted from its original intent. Ours is the Original 13. As far as religion goes, the only way I would like to see that discussed herei n is historical-- pertinent to our common ancestors. In fact, if anyone cares to explain the relationship of Mennonites (Jan Lucken was said to be Mennonite first) and Quakers in the Krefeld/ PA context I'd love to learn it. Thanks. Charlotte