Time to Beg =) If anyone had bits and peices of either family they can send me or a Seperate 13 Gedcom, I would be ETERNALLY GRATEFUL! Pleas e and thank you Cali Cali's German PA, Genealogy http://www,geocities.com/heartland/Falls/3610 I will be putting an updated page at rootsweb soon..There are some errors in the first page I need to remove, or fix.. Thanks,Cali {{{HUGS}}}} ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.