You know that Rootsweb has many mail-lists. I had subscribed to a few: Philly-roots, PAPHILAD, Quaker-roots, and for a very short time, Philly-Talk.. They are all run by control freaks who delight in rules and in telling people what to do and how to do it. I wish to divorce myself from the entire mess. Since Original-13 in on Rootsweb, I will leave it also. Previously, Original-13 was in another group. I do not want to support Rootsweb. We could try to convince Vince to move the list but he supports the "owners" on the other Rootsweb lists. I will, of course, talk to Ancestry.com and try to convince them to take control over these list-owners. I am now on a list called [email protected] There are no rules and anyone can say what he likes. We are adding genealogy to the mix and new members are coming on board every day. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 12:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] The burials of Thones Kunders and his son I have tried to decipher your crytpic note about "leaving Rootsweb." What is it? Perhaps your complaint is mine, too. It is too good a group to tear up. What does Vince say, or does he know? Can we re-name or re-group? I am in a quandary. Competent curmudgeons are hard to come by. Erik