Hi Maggie , I think the Roberts on the list could better Help than I can... What I know I have used as a source to verify my line... I am NOT SURE at all if there is any other Families that came After Robert CADWALLADER who married Jane Evans. Ummm I am Changing this to the Whole Group... I just did some extra nosing around , and FOR SURE one line DID NOT change their name.. John CADWALLADER m. Sophia ROBERTS His Father was John CADWALDADER wife UNK.. Sophia's Parents are Morris Roberts and elizabeth Robeson.. Which is a Down line from Robert CADWALADER.. Who's Name according to the Orig 13 researcher's.. I have Great Faith in thier Research , debates and discussions... They usually find the solution once more evidence.. Re Robert CADWALLDER I am through Morris ROBERTS and Elizabeth ROBESON. The Families where in both PA first and VA, NC... Robert and his son Morris where from Penllyn, Wales Christened in Llangower , WALES in the early years they where in GWYNEDD, MM Philadelphia where many of the Children where marrried.. Alot of this line Died in that Same place and are Buried in Montgomery and Phila. I know We in the list had this Topic going during the List bot Period... I don't know if anyone archieved them by Topic or not.... Other wise, We must go over it again... Maybe a List Friend can ADD history behind the Families.. What I have found is a JOHN CADWALLADER b. Mar 27, 1721 Phila m. Nov 1753 to Sophia Roberts cir 1725 Gwyned Died in virginia thier children where John C. Elizabeth C. David C Morris C Morris and Sussanh had 6 children, and I have NO CLUE, but suspect that this was an Intermarriage.. but no Proof.. I have also checked the line through my Zimmerman Families and the information is the same, since Susanna Roberts m. Jacob Zimmerman who arrived from Germany in 1694 and where Extremely involved with the Orig -13 Families.. ANY HELP FROM THE LIST FOR HERE? pLEASE <g> thanks, Cali Cali's German PA, Genealogy http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Falls/3610 I will be putting an updated page at rootsweb soon..There are some errors in the first page I need to remove, or fix.. Thanks,Cali {{{HUGS}}}} ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.