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    1. [ORIGINAL-13] Birthplace of Anne Klincken?
    2. Howard Swain
    3. Hi all, I have been trying to determine the birthplace of Anne Klincken. The abstracts of the records of the Abington Monthly Meeting (LDS #0333428, item 2, p. 331) say that Ann, the daughter of Aret Klinken, was born in "Zoppenburk Germany" on the 24th of the 10 mo. 1683. (Note that in 1732-33 these records had been transcribed from the old book into a new book. Then in 1894 they were abstracted, typed, and bound. This latter is what is on the above film.) William Hull in _William Penn and the Dutch Quakers_ (p. 239) says that "Quaker marriage records of Pennsylvannia" say she was born at "Toppenburk, Germany." Hull then hypothesizes that maybe "Toppenburk" was "Trompenberg" [sic] "a village ... close to Hilversum" in The Netherlands. I have been unable to find either a Zoppenburk or a Toppenburk (or -burgh) in present-day Germany. It just occured to me that (as far as I know) a country named "Germany" did not exist in 1683 or in 1733. So, I wonder if that appellation was added by the abstractor in 1894. The most similar name I have found within present-day Germany is Toppenstedt at 53 deg 16' N and 10 deg 6' E, near Hamburg. This is quite a distance from Krefeld, so seems unlikely to me. If we return to Hull's hypothesis, there is a village today near Hilversum in The Netherlands called Trompenburg. So, has anyone looked for birth or baptism records for Anne in these places? Does anyone have any better candidates? Regards, Howard [email protected]

    09/23/2000 02:59:53