As you can see by the date of Frank's original message, I am a bit behind on my list email! I had a question about the children of Hannah DeHaven and Dirck Pennybacker, since they are in my line of research. Hannah, born in 1737, would have been 43 when she had Derick b.1780, after an apparent pause in childbearing of 8 years (and she may have had several miscarriages or unlisted infant deaths during those years). I realize this is not unheard of although surely not common back then. Yet another child is born - Isaac Samuels in 1805 - making her 48 years old at his birth. I just wanted to confirm that these 2 later sons were actually born to Hannah and Dirck. Thank you! Margaret Harmon-Myers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Mayberry" <fmayberry4@cox.net> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Dirck Pennybacker and Hannah DeHaven??? > Hi, John & Linda Kyle > > Here is what I have on Hannah DeHaven. > > Name: Hannah DE HAVEN Sex: F Birth: 1737 Death: 1799 > > Father: Abraham DE HAVEN b: 1712 > Mother: Rebecca PAWLING > > Marriage 1 Dirck PENNYBACKER b: 1 JAN 1736/37 in Philidalphia, Pennsylvania > Married: 3 MAR 1756 in Pennsylvania > Children > Mary PENNYBACKER b: 1757 > Benjamin D. Pennybacker SR. b: 29 SEP 1760 in Shenandoah County, Virginia > Abraham PENNYBACKER b: 1764 > Elizabeth PENNYBACKER b: JUN 1766 > John PENNYBACKER b: 6 AUG 1768 > Hannah PENNYBACKER b: 1770 in Virginia > Derick PENNYBACKER b: 1780 in Rockingham County, Va > Catherine PENNYBACKER b: 1772 > Rebecca PENNYBACKER b: ABT. 1762 > Isaac Samuels PENNYBACKER b: 3 SEP 1805 in Pine Forge Shenandoah County, > Virginia > > Note: Go to following URL: > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fmayberry&id=I018 > 3 > > Here is the Beginning of my page: > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=fmayberry&surnam > e=M > > Also note info about Rebecca Pawling I am looking for more information on > her, if you run onto any information on her > please let me know. Here is some more that I know about Rebecca Pawling who > I believe is the same Rebecca Pawling that was listed on the 1850 and 1860 > Census of Hampshire Co., Va(WV). Rebecca was living with Susan Taylor and > her family. Susan Taylor is (I believe) named Susan Hass (not sure just > guessing). I saw somewhere that a Susan Hass or maybe Stump was married to > a Taylor. My ggrandpa Francis (aka Frank who me and my dad are named after) > was also living in Susan Taylor's household. Apparently, her husband > (Taylor) had passed on. There was also, a Rebecca Poling/Pawling living > there and later on the 1860 Census she was living in the household of Mary > Mayberry Smith wife of Capt Abraham Smith who was killed at the Spotsylvania > Court House in 1864. Mary Mayberry was the daughter of my > gggrandpa Israel & Catherine Hass Mayberry of Romney, Hampshire Co., Va(WV). > I am searching for the date of death and place of burial of both Israel and > Catherine my gggrandparents. Justinian Mayberry & Mary Ann Houser of > Frederick, Frederick Co., Maryland were Israel's parents. I have lots of > information on my direct line up to Justinian and Mary Ann Houser who were > married at Frederick, Md in 1791. I lost track of the line with Justinian I > am looking for his parents, who I think might tie into the connection to > George Mayberry who I initally thought was the father of Israel until I > found the Will made by Mary Ann Houser Mayberry who named him as her son > born on 9May1794 at Frederick, Frederick Co., Maryland. If you have any > information or a webpage with the information of more members of this family > please let me know. Thanks, Frank R. Mayberry in Muskogee, Ok P.S. I am > in the process of trying to correct the error that I have on my > ggggrandparents, right now it shows George Mayberry & Rebecca Pennybacker > which is an error now that I know that Justinian and Mary Ann are the right > parents. Thanks, for any help and please keep in contact. Bye, Frank > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John & Linda Kyle" <jkyle@trib.com> > To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 7:21 PM > Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Dirck Pennybacker and Hannah DeHaven??? > > > | Hi Frank, > | > | Regarding this email that you posted below, I know this is a later date, > that you > | have, but earlier on, I have the following: > | > | Descendants of William DeHaven I > | > | 1 William DeHaven I b: 1714 in Philadelphia, Now Montgomery Co, PA d: > September > | 10, 1784 in Montgomery County, PA Burial: Boehms Church, Blue Bell, PA > | . +Hannah Cromber > | ........ 2 [1] Andrew DeHaven b: February 19, 1744/45 in Blue Bell, > Whitpain > | Township, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania d: 1788 in Norristown, PA > Burial: Blue > | Bell Cemetery, Norristown PA > | ........... +[2] Elizabeth McGlathery b: Bet. 1748 - 1750 d: Aft. 1811 m: > Abt. 1768 > | Father: Henry M. McGlathery Mother: Sarah Supplee > | *2nd Wife of William DeHaven I: > | . +Hannah (Cromber ?) Cramer b: 1717 in Whitpain Twp, Now Mont Co, PA d: > June 25, > | 1786 m: March 31, 1739 in First Presbyterian Church, Philadelphia, PA > Father: > | Nicholas ?? Kramer Burial: Buried in Blue Bell Church, PA > | ........ 2 Margaretha DeHaven b: 1739 d: 1785 > | ........ 2 Peter DeHaven III b: 1741 d: 1832 > | ........ 2 Sarah DeHaven b: 1743 > | ........ 2 [1] Andrew DeHaven b: February 19, 1744/45 in Blue Bell, > Whitpain > | Township, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania d: 1788 in Norristown, PA > Burial: Blue > | Bell Cemetery, Norristown PA > | ........... +[2] Elizabeth McGlathery b: Bet. 1748 - 1750 d: Aft. 1811 m: > Abt. 1768 > | Father: Henry M. McGlathery Mother: Sarah Supplee > | ........ 2 Samuel DeHaven b: 1746 d: 1821 > | ........ 2 Jesse DeHaven b: 1748 in Whitpain, Montgomery Co d: Aft. 1785 > | ........... +? > | ........ 2 Abraham DeHaven b: 1750 d: 1829 > | ........ 2 Joes (John) DeHaven b: 1752 d: 1755 > | ........ 2 Hannah DeHaven b: 1754 > | > | IS this Hannah Dehaven you mentioned from this particular DeHaven family? > Can you > | tell me if the Pennybacker you show is descended from Isaac Pennypacker? > | > | Thanks!!! > | > | Linda > | > | > | > | Frank Mayberry wrote: > | > | > Hi, Edward! I believe that we are related thru the Updegraff > | > surnames in a couple of instances. First one is through the > | > marriage of one of the Updegraff daughters to a Mayberry > | > in Frederick, Maryland or Hagerstown, Maryland. I had > | > a Peter J. Mayberry of Hagerstown who died in Oct 1902 and > | > was buried in Rose Hill. He (Peter) was an exSheriff of > | > Washington Co., Maryland in 1875-1877 also was elected to > | > the Maryland Legislature in 1882. He (Peter J. Mayberry) died > | > on Oct 27, 1902 (Daily Mail, Hagerstown, Monday, October 27th, > | > 1902). ee entry: "The pall=bearers, all cousins, will be A. A. > | > Mobley; I. R. Mobley; C. E. Heard; Geo. F. Updegraff, Ed > | > M. Updegraff, and Albert Heard. > | > Services this afternoon at 2 o'clock at the residence of Mrs. Wm. > | > Updegraff, W. Washington Street. Conducted by Rev. Dr. Dunbar, > | > of Baltimore, assisyted by Rev. Dr. Charles Albert of Philadelphia, > | > and Rev. F. J. Baum, of Trinity Lutheran church, with internment in > | > Rose Hill cemetery. > | > Also, I have a George Mayberry who married into the Dirck > | > Pennybacker family of Philadelphia. Dirck married Rebecca > | > Pennybacker dau of Dirck Pennybacker and Hannah DeHaven > | > of Philadelphia. George Mayberry was an Iron Master who > | > owned and operated the Columbia Furnace in the Shenandoah > | > County, Virginia. Any help will be highly appreciated. I am looking > | > for the parents of George Mayberry. Thanks, Frank Mayberry. > | > | > | > | ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > | Be careful not to post materials that are known to be Copyrighted. It > | is inconsiderate of the publisher, and is illegal, besides. Of course > | it is OK if you get permission to do so. Mention that if applicable. > | > | ============================== > | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > | > | > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Transcribe Graves, Lookup Data Online, Lookup Data in Publications > Visit Historical Societies, Go to Libraries and courthouses. 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It truly is a loss that the Kunders house was lost. One part that survives though is the Protest Table on which the first protest against slavery was signed. That table is displayed in the Historic Mennonite Meetinghouse at 6121 Germantown Ave. Should you like to see it on your next visit to Germantown, I would be glad to host you on a tour of the Meetinghouse. Regards, Randall Nyce Executive Director Germantown Mennonite Historic Trust 215-843-0943 gmht@meetinghouse.info

It is profound to know that my gggggggggggggreat grandfather sat at that table. Burnell.K. Uptagrafft (Op Den Graef) ----- Original Message ----- From: "1770 Mennonite Meetinghouse" <public@meetinghouse.info> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 6:13 AM Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] 1688 Protest Table > It truly is a loss that the Kunders house was lost. One part that > survives though is the Protest Table on which the first protest against > slavery was signed. That table is displayed in the Historic Mennonite > Meetinghouse at 6121 Germantown Ave. Should you like to see it on your > next visit to Germantown, I would be glad to host you on a tour of the > Meetinghouse. > > Regards, > > Randall Nyce > Executive Director > Germantown Mennonite Historic Trust > 215-843-0943 > gmht@meetinghouse.info > > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Keep your Anti-Virus Software up-to-date. Beware unidentified email > attachments. De-activate features that run HTML automatically. > ++++++++++++++ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

forwarded for Candy Hughes who is on travel. hope someone can recognize this Eliza Updegraff and her father Joseph. John Miller Keeny b. about 1804 PA d. 11 Jul 1858 Carlisle + Elisa/Elizabeth Updegraff b. abt 1797 d. 31 Oct 1882 Carlisle Elisa/Eliza/Elisabeth Updegraff is daughter of Joseph? Updegraff (born ? in PA, according to census) her two sisters are: Matilda (Updegraff) Woods b. 1800 d. abt 1889 Carlisle + Alexander Woods, married 11 Oct 1838 Susannah Updegraff b. 1805 d. 5 Aug 1888 Carlisle John Miller Keeny may be son of John Miller Keeny (the Miller may be occupation not family name) + ?? or he may be son of Abraham Keeny + Matilda Ridgley appreciate any hints or additional information -- joe

Dee, Can I get a copy of the house and or other articles on it, also??? I desc. from Thones Kunders and have never been able to see it as it was destroyed before I ever visited Philadelphia. Just let me know what I owe you... Many thanks. Emily ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dee Thompson" <d7777@worldnet.att.net> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 10:25 AM Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Thones Kunder's House. > I have a super picture of the house if you need a copy. > It's from Byways and Boulevards In and About Historic Philadelphia. > The chapter that the picture is in is an itinerary of sightseeing in > Philadelphia. > Route Three - The Founding and Founders of Germantown - 19.9 m. > No. 510- Main St., Thones Kunders House > >From this home of one of the original settlers of Germantown came in > 1688 the first public protest in America against slavery. > > Dee > For details on the reference sources used for lookups, refer to this > link: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RUTH & JERRY KELLER" <Ekeller@prodigy.net> > To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 7:57 PM > Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Quakers - The First Abolotionists. > > > Yes Dee, the house on 5109 Main Street - My husband and I went there 5 > to 6 > yrs ago and it was gone - I was very unset that they would replace it > with a > drug store. There is a sign there which says: > > FIRST PROTEST AGAINST SLAVERY > > Here in 1688, at the home of Tunes Sunders, an eloquent protest was > written > by a group of German Quakers. Signed by Pastries and three others, it > preceded by 92 years Pennsylvania's passage of the nation's first > state > abolition law. > > Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission > 1983 > > You would think that the Pa Historical and Museum Commission would > have > fought to keep this as a historical site. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dee Thompson" <d7777@worldnet.att.net> > To: "RUTH & JERRY KELLER" <Ekeller@prodigy.net> > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:03 PM > Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Quakers - The First Abolotionists. > > > > Ruth, > > Is this the house on 5109 Main Street? > > How COULD they tear it down? > > Dee > > (Anne DeHaven Conard Thompson, Atlanta) > > For details on the reference sources used for lookups, refer to this > > link: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "RUTH & JERRY KELLER" <Ekeller@prodigy.net> > > To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 9:51 PM > > Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Quakers - The First Abolotionists. > > > > > > This petition against slavery was written in my ggggggg > grandfather's > > house - Thones Kunders. Went to visit the house but it was torn > down > > and a > > drug store is in it's place. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <GramsBBoop@cs.com> > > To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 10:47 PM > > Subject: [PaOldC] Quakers - The First Abolotionists. > > > > > > > For the "List" and those who possibly are not aware of this book: > > > > > > > > > My sister told me about a book she had seen at the library called > > "The > > > Mayflower Murderer & Other Forgotten Firsts in American History" > by > > Peter > > F. > > > Stevens, 1993. > > > Chapter 5 of this book is entitled "Four for Freedom: America's > > First > > > Abolitionists." > > > It is the story of Francis Daniel Pastorius, Gerhard Hendricks, > and > > Dirck > > and > > > Abraham Op den Graef's petition against slavery to the monthly > > Quaker's > > > meeting on February 30, 1688 - about 100 years before Lincoln's > > Emancipation > > > Proclamation. > > > > > > I bought the book through the internet. It is interesting reading > > for > > anyone > > > connected to the Original-13 families who settled in Germantown, > PA. > > The > > rest > > > of the book looks interesting as well as it relates to other > > "firsts." > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Marilyn in Michigan > > > > > > > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > > > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list > > > contact me personally....list manager > > > ferg@ntelos.net > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > > please visit the Chester Co rootsweb site...it isfull of area > photos, > > helpful URLs and lots of county information > > http://www.pa-roots.com/~chester/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list > contact me personally....list manager > ferg@ntelos.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Be careful not to post materials that are known to be Copyrighted. 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apologize...apologize...duh I sent comment as regards Thones Kunders' house intended for one person and a comment on the Haywood Co, NC Conards, potential Kunders descendants. I made a quip about the Clintons, and did not intend it to go out to all in Original 13, and apologize for the shot. I still think the Clintons are jerks, but do not wish to use site for my rancor. Again, out of line, sorry. Erik P Conard

have several pictures and renderings of TK's house, which, in the infinite wisdom of the Philadelphia city fathers, was demolished just a few weeks short of the 300th anniversary shindig...the only original house left. Great, just great. Bet those butholes would vote for the Clintons, too. My hot button is to try to learn the origin of the Haywood County Conards, from whence they came There was a James Conard in the 1790 census in Rutherford County. This could well be now Haywood. Seems like one could track the chain of title to some extent....anyhow, there are hundreds of them and they are no kin to the many German CONRADs in central NC. Regards, Erik

I have a super picture of the house if you need a copy. It's from Byways and Boulevards In and About Historic Philadelphia. The chapter that the picture is in is an itinerary of sightseeing in Philadelphia. Route Three - The Founding and Founders of Germantown - 19.9 m. No. 510- Main St., Thones Kunders House >From this home of one of the original settlers of Germantown came in 1688 the first public protest in America against slavery. Dee For details on the reference sources used for lookups, refer to this link: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "RUTH & JERRY KELLER" <Ekeller@prodigy.net> To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Quakers - The First Abolotionists. Yes Dee, the house on 5109 Main Street - My husband and I went there 5 to 6 yrs ago and it was gone - I was very unset that they would replace it with a drug store. There is a sign there which says: FIRST PROTEST AGAINST SLAVERY Here in 1688, at the home of Tunes Sunders, an eloquent protest was written by a group of German Quakers. Signed by Pastries and three others, it preceded by 92 years Pennsylvania's passage of the nation's first state abolition law. Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission 1983 You would think that the Pa Historical and Museum Commission would have fought to keep this as a historical site. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dee Thompson" <d7777@worldnet.att.net> To: "RUTH & JERRY KELLER" <Ekeller@prodigy.net> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Quakers - The First Abolotionists. > Ruth, > Is this the house on 5109 Main Street? > How COULD they tear it down? > Dee > (Anne DeHaven Conard Thompson, Atlanta) > For details on the reference sources used for lookups, refer to this > link: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RUTH & JERRY KELLER" <Ekeller@prodigy.net> > To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 9:51 PM > Subject: Re: [PaOldC] Quakers - The First Abolotionists. > > > This petition against slavery was written in my ggggggg grandfather's > house - Thones Kunders. Went to visit the house but it was torn down > and a > drug store is in it's place. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <GramsBBoop@cs.com> > To: <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 10:47 PM > Subject: [PaOldC] Quakers - The First Abolotionists. > > > > For the "List" and those who possibly are not aware of this book: > > > > > > My sister told me about a book she had seen at the library called > "The > > Mayflower Murderer & Other Forgotten Firsts in American History" by > Peter > F. > > Stevens, 1993. > > Chapter 5 of this book is entitled "Four for Freedom: America's > First > > Abolitionists." > > It is the story of Francis Daniel Pastorius, Gerhard Hendricks, and > Dirck > and > > Abraham Op den Graef's petition against slavery to the monthly > Quaker's > > meeting on February 30, 1688 - about 100 years before Lincoln's > Emancipation > > Proclamation. > > > > I bought the book through the internet. It is interesting reading > for > anyone > > connected to the Original-13 families who settled in Germantown, PA. > The > rest > > of the book looks interesting as well as it relates to other > "firsts." > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Marilyn in Michigan > > > > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > > If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list > > contact me personally....list manager > > ferg@ntelos.net > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== > please visit the Chester Co rootsweb site...it isfull of area photos, > helpful URLs and lots of county information > http://www.pa-roots.com/~chester/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== PA-OLD-CHESTER Mailing List ==== If you have ANY problems, do not send them to the list contact me personally....list manager ferg@ntelos.net ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

RE ANDRIS Souplis, "He was virtually a refugee, fleeing from persecution. Whilst in Germany he married a German lady, Gertrude Stressinger, who was born in Germany in 1642. They left Germany in 1683, and with a party of German emigrants came to America, arriving in Philadelphia in the early part of 1684." As some have learned recently. This is not the case. While Andris married Gertrude.... she was his second wife and she had been married AT LEAST twice and probably three times before Andris. And is not the mother of ANY of his children. Annike was the first but surname not known as yet. Old data die hard. Joe

Hello, I think these Supplee's are mine, I have some info on these pages: http://www.geocities.com/hsdurbin/suplink.html Sincerely, Helen S. Durbin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vincent E. Summers" <vsummers@nrao.edu> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:49 PM Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Who is this SUPPLEE Marriage Mate, Please? > The Old Swedes' Church documentation reveals: > > 1773, Oct 14, Fitzgerald, Alley, and Andrew Supplee. > > Now just before this wedding some five years, there was another > marriage that looks suspiciously related! > > Again, from Old Swedes'... > > 1768, March 14, Smith, Alley Fitzgerald, and Charles Proud. > > Is anyone acquainted with these? I assume the SUPPLEE will possibly > be known by someone on this list, as the line intermingles with those > researched here, but I don't know about the others... > > Thanks, > Vince Summers > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe by sending a blank email with only the word unsubscribe in > the Subject and Body fields, with no signature file, etc., to: > Original-13-L-request@rootsweb.com or Original-13-D-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

The Old Swedes' Church documentation reveals: 1773, Oct 14, Fitzgerald, Alley, and Andrew Supplee. Now just before this wedding some five years, there was another marriage that looks suspiciously related! Again, from Old Swedes'... 1768, March 14, Smith, Alley Fitzgerald, and Charles Proud. Is anyone acquainted with these? I assume the SUPPLEE will possibly be known by someone on this list, as the line intermingles with those researched here, but I don't know about the others... Thanks, Vince Summers

I looked in the latest edition of the Hunsberger Book to see if any Dehaven descendants were listed. There is only one who is 10th generation. However there are a few Hunsberger daughters of roughly the time period you are interested in who had no accounts of husbands or children at the time of publication. Of course since then someone may have found what happened to them. The Hunsberger Family Association has a website: www.hunsberger.org This will give you information about who you could get in touch with to find out if anything has been found about these daughters. Alice Hunsberger Marshall ----- Original Message ----- From: "joe patterson" <jpatter@comcast.net> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:17 PM Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Dehaven-Umstadt-OpDengraeff-Hunsberger? search 1760-1800 > Am looking for a marriage of a JACOB Dehaven to possibly a HUNSBERGER. > > Other Family connections as shown in the title. > > would have been about 1786/87 ish.... > > From a long list of tax records Barb Wentz compiled.... > > > Tax Records: [Montgomery Co. PA Archives Ð microfilm of Tax Lists. These > lists start in 1785 (Montgomery County formed 1784 from Philadelphia County) > and did include acres; however Jacob was never taxed with acres] > > JACOB taxed as single through 1786 and is on regular tax list 1787. > > IN 1797..... this JACOB > > Taxed Limerick, 1h and 2c, and for HUNSBERGER'S Est. 140A > > [IS THIS Possibly the estate of his wife's father/mother??] > > This MAY be a clue as to who this Jacob born abt 1761 married. [ I > believe this to be Jacob of Amity Twp Berks who came to Limerick Twp by > 1785 single ] per Barbara Wentz's work..... > > 1790 Census: Montgomery County, all other townships (Historical Society of > Montgomery County has penciled in the townships; Jacob is in Limerick > Township. 2 males over 16, 1 male under 16, 2 females > > ANY HELP APPRECIATED..... > > PS. This is NOT the Jacob Dehaven of Skippak who married CATHEINE > ELISABETH FREY in 1787. He was born about the same time ... some data > show there was one son and three daughters in this family.. [Father > Garret DeHaven and mother Anna {Frey or Pawling?} DeHaven shown on > marriage Cert.] > > Many show JACOB of Amity/Limerick, married to a Catherine Frey, but > have recently gathered evidence that the above Jacob. Of course there > COULD be another Catherine Frey this one married....??? [Have seen one > born 1765??] > > [MORE on Jacob, son of Garret II Dehaven if anyone interested...] > > -- > > joe > > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Keep your Anti-Virus Software up-to-date. Beware unidentified email > attachments. De-activate features that run HTML automatically. > ++++++++++++++ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi, Sherry! It's been awhile since I have seen your name around. Seems like I have corresponded with you before a couple years ago, when I was searching madly for George Mayberry folks, thinking he was the father of my Israel Mayberry. Was I wrong! Later I found that Israel's parents were Justinian Mayberry and Mary Ann Houser Mayberry of Frederick, Frederick Co., Maryland. I found Mary Ann Houser's will that was recorded at Frederick, Md and I obtained a copy and transcribed it to type easier to read, if you need a copy let me know. Here is what I have found about the persons below, I think I have already sent you some info on Rebecca Pawling or on someone who has her name that I am sure is a relative if not the same person. I am really confused on this Rebecca Pawling as I cannot make a connection on how she fits into this puzzle. I know she is closely related but how. Apparently her husband had died and she was living in the household of Susan Taylor and her children on the 1850 Census of Romney, Hampshire Co., Va(WV). Later on in either the 1860 Census or 1870 Census I found her again but this time she was living in the household of Mary Mayberry Smith m. to Capt Abraham Smith Commanding Off of Co K, 13th Regt Inf of Va (CSA) - he died of his wounds from the battle at the Spotsvlyania Court House in 1863. After the Civil War the family moved to Grand River Twp., Cass County, Missouri (later summer or fall of 1866). Also, about the same time Simon D. Taylor a relative of my ggrandpa Francis Mayberry married Mary E. Early dau of Henry C. Early and Eliza A. Clarke of Port Gibson, Claiborne Co., Mississippi. (Note: my ggrandpa Francis aka Frank Mayberry and Simon D. Taylor were boyhood friends and Frank had lived with the family after his mother (Catherine Hass Mayberry) had passed on sometime prior to the 1850 Census of Hampshire County, Va(WV). My ggrandpa Frank (me and my dads namesake) died sometime between 1872 and 1877, as my ggrandma remarried to a D. N. McGill and they had a 2year old son named "Noble" listed on the 1880 Census. By 1880 my grandpa Henry H. Mayberry (about 17 yrs old had already departed for Texas - "Gone To Texas"). He was working as a Cowboy in Gainesville, Cooke Co., Texas buying and selling cattle, and driving them to the Kansas Railheads over the Chislom Trail, he was killed while roping a wild range steer, the horse falling on him crushing him and the saddle and breaking his neck on May 14, 1895. He is buried in the Hickory Community Cemetery, Carter County, Indian Territory(Okla). Oh! yes, I was going to tell you that I checked the Grand River Twp., Cemetery out for my grandpa but couldn't find him, but found the gravesite of his friend Simon D. Taylor and his family which included the name scratched into Simon's headstone "Rebecca Pawling" just the name no date that I remember, so someone wrote the name or scratched it into the headstone after the death of Simon D. Taylor which was in the early 1900's. I forget the date but have it somewhere in my files. That is all I have that I can think of but, if I run onto anything else that I think you might like to know I will send it along. Hope, you are doing well. So, give me a yell once in awhile. Bye, Frank Mayberry in Muskogee, Ok ---- Original Message ----- From: "Johnson Sherry" <sherrjoh7@yahoo.com> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 1:37 AM Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Re: ORIGINAL-13-D Digest V03 #51 | Linda, | | Dirck Pennybacker (b. 1 Jan 1737-d. 15 Feb. 1802) m. 3 Mar. 1756 Hannah Dehaven (29 Dec. 1737-d. 2 Apr. 1825), d/o Abraham Dehaven and Robetta Pawling. Dirck (Derick) Pennybacker was a son of John Pennabecker (27 Aug 1713-14 Jun 1784) who m. Annake Keyser. John was the son of Heinrich Pannebaker, the immigrant, and Eve Umstat. Rebecca, daughter of the first couple married George Mayberry ca 1785. | | Sherry Johnson | | message/rfc822 Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 18:21:17 -0600 | From: John & Linda Kyle | To: ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com | Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Dirck Pennybacker and Hannah DeHaven??? | | Hi Frank, | | Regarding this email that you posted below, I know this is a later date, that you | have, but earlier on, I have the following: | | Descendants of William DeHaven I | | 1 William DeHaven I b: 1714 in Philadelphia, Now Montgomery Co, PA d: September | 10, 1784 in Montgomery County, PA Burial: Boehms Church, Blue Bell, PA | . +Hannah Cromber | ........ 2 [1] Andrew DeHaven b: February 19, 1744/45 in Blue Bell, Whitpain | Township, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania d: 1788 in Norristown, PA Burial: Blue | Bell Cemetery, Norristown PA | ........... +[2] Elizabeth McGlathery b: Bet. 1748 - 1750 d: Aft. 1811 m: Abt. 1768 | Father: Henry M. McGlathery Mother: Sarah Supplee | *2nd Wife of William DeHaven I: | . +Hannah (Cromber ?) Cramer b: 1717 in Whitpain Twp, Now Mont Co, PA d: June 25, | 1786 m: March 31, 1739 in First Presbyterian Church, Philadelphia, PA Father: | Nicholas ?? Kramer Burial: Buried in Blue Bell Church, PA | ........ 2 Margaretha DeHaven b: 1739 d: 1785 | ........ 2 Peter DeHaven III b: 1741 d: 1832 | ........ 2 Sarah DeHaven b: 1743 | ........ 2 [1] Andrew DeHaven b: February 19, 1744/45 in Blue Bell, Whitpain | Township, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania d: 1788 in Norristown, PA Burial: Blue | Bell Cemetery, Norristown PA | ........... +[2] Elizabeth McGlathery b: Bet. 1748 - 1750 d: Aft. 1811 m: Abt. 1768 | Father: Henry M. McGlathery Mother: Sarah Supplee | ........ 2 Samuel DeHaven b: 1746 d: 1821 | ........ 2 Jesse DeHaven b: 1748 in Whitpain, Montgomery Co d: Aft. 1785 | ........... +? | ........ 2 Abraham DeHaven b: 1750 d: 1829 | ........ 2 Joes (John) DeHaven b: 1752 d: 1755 | ........ 2 Hannah DeHaven b: 1754 | | IS this Hannah Dehaven you mentioned from this particular DeHaven family? Can you | tell me if the Pennybacker you show is descended from Isaac Pennypacker? | | Thanks!!! | | Linda | | | | Frank Mayberry wrote: | | > Also, I have a George Mayberry who married into the Dirck | > Pennybacker family of Philadelphia. Dirck married Rebecca | > Pennybacker dau of Dirck Pennybacker and Hannah DeHaven | > of Philadelphia. George Mayberry was an Iron Master who | > owned and operated the Columbia Furnace in the Shenandoah | > County, Virginia. Any help will be highly appreciated. I am looking | > for the parents of George Mayberry. 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Hi, There was a Rebecca Poling/Pawling living in the household of Susan Taylor, as head of household on the 1850 Hampshire County, Va(WV) Census.. Susan Taylor was (I believe a Hass or Stump surname), my grgrandpa Francis Mayberry was listed as a member of the household age 16. His mother had died prior to the 1850 Census. The other children were with the grandparents Peter & Mary Baer Hass. Later on the 1860 Census Rebecca Pawling was living in the household of Mary and sister Sarah Ann Mayberry Smith. Mary the eldest child of Israel & Catherine Hass Mayberry had married Captain Abraham Smith Commanding Officer of Company K, 13th Regt Infantry of Va. He (Capt Smith) was killed at the Battle of Spotsylvania Court House (died of wounds). I have more info on the Pennybacker, DeHaven, DeHass, Hass, Rutter/Rtter, Mayberry, Houser, UpDeGraeff surnames. My ggggrandpa was Justinian Mayberry who was a Capt in the Maryland Militia Home Brigade during the 1812 War. Justinian Mayberry lived many years in Frederick Maryland married Mary Ann Houser born Apr 26, 1769 married on Oct 10, 1791 in Frederick, she died on April 29, 1855 bur Mt Olivet Cem Frederick MD. Peter J. Mayberry born 1833, son of Israel & Catherine Hass Mayberry. Upon death of Mother he lived in the household of his Aunt Sophia Mayberry and Eli Mobley of Hagerstown. Served as 1st Lt USA in 4th Potomac Home Brigade, after the civil war he was elected as Sheriff of Washington Co., Md in 1875-1877; later served in the Maryland Legislature in 1882/86 and later was employed as a Clerk in the Appraisors office in Baltimore until his death in Oct 27, 1902. He was buried in Rose Hill cemetery in Hagerstown. Services were held in the residence of Mrs. William Updegraff on West Washington Street. Pall bearers were all cousins A. A. Mobley, I. R. Mobley; George F. Updegraff, Edward Mayberry Updegraff; Albert Heard and C. E. Heard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "joe patterson" <jpatter@comcast.net> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 2:29 AM Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Re: pennypacker Dehaven | couple of piece of slightly different data on Dehavens | | Johnson Sherry wrote: | | >Linda, | > | >Dirck Pennybacker (b. 1 Jan 1737-d. 15 Feb. 1802) m. 3 Mar. 1756 Hannah Dehaven (29 Dec. 1737-d. 2 Apr. 1825), d/o Abraham Dehaven and Robetta Pawling. Dirck (Derick) Pennybacker was a son of John Pennabecker (27 Aug 1713-14 Jun 1784) who m. Annake Keyser. John was the son of Heinrich Pannebaker, the immigrant, and Eve Umstat. Rebecca, daughter of the first couple married George Mayberry ca 1785. | > | > | | I show this Abraham Dehaven married REBECCA Pawling.... | | > | > | >Descendants of William DeHaven I | > | >1 William DeHaven I b: 1714 in Philadelphia, Now Montgomery Co, PA d: September | >10, 1784 in Montgomery County, PA Burial: Boehms Church, Blue Bell, PA | >. +Hannah Cromber | >........ 2 [1] Andrew DeHaven b: February 19, 1744/45 in Blue Bell, Whitpain | >Township, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania d: 1788 in Norristown, PA Burial: Blue | >Bell Cemetery, Norristown PA | >........... +[2] Elizabeth McGlathery b: Bet. 1748 - 1750 d: Aft. 1811 m: Abt. 1768 | >Father: Henry M. McGlathery Mother: Sarah Supplee | > | no second wife, this is the same person as above. | | >*2nd Wife of William DeHaven I: | >. +Hannah (Cromber ?) Cramer b: 1717 in Whitpain Twp, Now Mont Co, PA d: June 25, | >1786 m: March 31, 1739 in First Presbyterian Church, Philadelphia, PA | > | >........ 2 Hannah DeHaven b: 1754 | > | | this is not the Hannah. we think this one died fairly young but MAY have | had a daughter. She is not known to have married. | | > | >IS this Hannah Dehaven you mentioned from this particular DeHaven family? Can you | >tell me if the Pennybacker you show is descended from Isaac Pennypacker? | > | >Thanks!!! | > | >Linda | > | > | | -- | | joe | | | | | ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== | Be careful not to post materials that are known to be Copyrighted. It | is inconsiderate of the publisher, and is illegal, besides. Of course | it is OK if you get permission to do so. Mention that if applicable. | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 | |

couple of piece of slightly different data on Dehavens Johnson Sherry wrote: >Linda, > >Dirck Pennybacker (b. 1 Jan 1737-d. 15 Feb. 1802) m. 3 Mar. 1756 Hannah Dehaven (29 Dec. 1737-d. 2 Apr. 1825), d/o Abraham Dehaven and Robetta Pawling. Dirck (Derick) Pennybacker was a son of John Pennabecker (27 Aug 1713-14 Jun 1784) who m. Annake Keyser. John was the son of Heinrich Pannebaker, the immigrant, and Eve Umstat. Rebecca, daughter of the first couple married George Mayberry ca 1785. > > I show this Abraham Dehaven married REBECCA Pawling.... > > >Descendants of William DeHaven I > >1 William DeHaven I b: 1714 in Philadelphia, Now Montgomery Co, PA d: September >10, 1784 in Montgomery County, PA Burial: Boehms Church, Blue Bell, PA >. +Hannah Cromber >........ 2 [1] Andrew DeHaven b: February 19, 1744/45 in Blue Bell, Whitpain >Township, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania d: 1788 in Norristown, PA Burial: Blue >Bell Cemetery, Norristown PA >........... +[2] Elizabeth McGlathery b: Bet. 1748 - 1750 d: Aft. 1811 m: Abt. 1768 >Father: Henry M. McGlathery Mother: Sarah Supplee > no second wife, this is the same person as above. >*2nd Wife of William DeHaven I: >. +Hannah (Cromber ?) Cramer b: 1717 in Whitpain Twp, Now Mont Co, PA d: June 25, >1786 m: March 31, 1739 in First Presbyterian Church, Philadelphia, PA > >........ 2 Hannah DeHaven b: 1754 > this is not the Hannah. we think this one died fairly young but MAY have had a daughter. She is not known to have married. > >IS this Hannah Dehaven you mentioned from this particular DeHaven family? Can you >tell me if the Pennybacker you show is descended from Isaac Pennypacker? > >Thanks!!! > >Linda > > -- joe

Linda, Dirck Pennybacker (b. 1 Jan 1737-d. 15 Feb. 1802) m. 3 Mar. 1756 Hannah Dehaven (29 Dec. 1737-d. 2 Apr. 1825), d/o Abraham Dehaven and Robetta Pawling. Dirck (Derick) Pennybacker was a son of John Pennabecker (27 Aug 1713-14 Jun 1784) who m. Annake Keyser. John was the son of Heinrich Pannebaker, the immigrant, and Eve Umstat. Rebecca, daughter of the first couple married George Mayberry ca 1785. Sherry Johnson message/rfc822 Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 18:21:17 -0600 From: John & Linda Kyle To: ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Dirck Pennybacker and Hannah DeHaven??? Hi Frank, Regarding this email that you posted below, I know this is a later date, that you have, but earlier on, I have the following: Descendants of William DeHaven I 1 William DeHaven I b: 1714 in Philadelphia, Now Montgomery Co, PA d: September 10, 1784 in Montgomery County, PA Burial: Boehms Church, Blue Bell, PA . +Hannah Cromber ........ 2 [1] Andrew DeHaven b: February 19, 1744/45 in Blue Bell, Whitpain Township, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania d: 1788 in Norristown, PA Burial: Blue Bell Cemetery, Norristown PA ........... +[2] Elizabeth McGlathery b: Bet. 1748 - 1750 d: Aft. 1811 m: Abt. 1768 Father: Henry M. McGlathery Mother: Sarah Supplee *2nd Wife of William DeHaven I: . +Hannah (Cromber ?) Cramer b: 1717 in Whitpain Twp, Now Mont Co, PA d: June 25, 1786 m: March 31, 1739 in First Presbyterian Church, Philadelphia, PA Father: Nicholas ?? Kramer Burial: Buried in Blue Bell Church, PA ........ 2 Margaretha DeHaven b: 1739 d: 1785 ........ 2 Peter DeHaven III b: 1741 d: 1832 ........ 2 Sarah DeHaven b: 1743 ........ 2 [1] Andrew DeHaven b: February 19, 1744/45 in Blue Bell, Whitpain Township, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania d: 1788 in Norristown, PA Burial: Blue Bell Cemetery, Norristown PA ........... +[2] Elizabeth McGlathery b: Bet. 1748 - 1750 d: Aft. 1811 m: Abt. 1768 Father: Henry M. McGlathery Mother: Sarah Supplee ........ 2 Samuel DeHaven b: 1746 d: 1821 ........ 2 Jesse DeHaven b: 1748 in Whitpain, Montgomery Co d: Aft. 1785 ........... +? ........ 2 Abraham DeHaven b: 1750 d: 1829 ........ 2 Joes (John) DeHaven b: 1752 d: 1755 ........ 2 Hannah DeHaven b: 1754 IS this Hannah Dehaven you mentioned from this particular DeHaven family? Can you tell me if the Pennybacker you show is descended from Isaac Pennypacker? Thanks!!! Linda Frank Mayberry wrote: > Also, I have a George Mayberry who married into the Dirck > Pennybacker family of Philadelphia. Dirck married Rebecca > Pennybacker dau of Dirck Pennybacker and Hannah DeHaven > of Philadelphia. George Mayberry was an Iron Master who > owned and operated the Columbia Furnace in the Shenandoah > County, Virginia. Any help will be highly appreciated. I am looking > for the parents of George Mayberry. Thanks, Frank Mayberry. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

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When you return, you can check the Archives for this list at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Just type in the name of the list and you can check the messages for the dates you were gone. The following was shared with me and I think it is one of the best Maps I have seen showing the growth and history of the United States. http://www.animatedatlas.com/movie.html I appreciate each of you and know that it is because of you our list is the success it is. Kathleen Burnett List Administrator ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 18:21:17 -0600 From: John & Linda Kyle To: ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Dirck Pennybacker and Hannah DeHaven??? Hi Frank, Regarding this email that you posted below, I know this is a later date, that you have, but earlier on, I have the following: Descendants of William DeHaven I 1 William DeHaven I b: 1714 in Philadelphia, Now Montgomery Co, PA d: September 10, 1784 in Montgomery County, PA Burial: Boehms Church, Blue Bell, PA . +Hannah Cromber ........ 2 [1] Andrew DeHaven b: February 19, 1744/45 in Blue Bell, Whitpain Township, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania d: 1788 in Norristown, PA Burial: Blue Bell Cemetery, Norristown PA ........... +[2] Elizabeth McGlathery b: Bet. 1748 - 1750 d: Aft. 1811 m: Abt. 1768 Father: Henry M. McGlathery Mother: Sarah Supplee *2nd Wife of William DeHaven I: . +Hannah (Cromber ?) Cramer b: 1717 in Whitpain Twp, Now Mont Co, PA d: June 25, 1786 m: March 31, 1739 in First Presbyterian Church, Philadelphia, PA Father: Nicholas ?? Kramer Burial: Buried in Blue Bell Church, PA ........ 2 Margaretha DeHaven b: 1739 d: 1785 ........ 2 Peter DeHaven III b: 1741 d: 1832 ........ 2 Sarah DeHaven b: 1743 ........ 2 [1] Andrew DeHaven b: February 19, 1744/45 in Blue Bell, Whitpain Township, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania d: 1788 in Norristown, PA Burial: Blue Bell Cemetery, Norristown PA ........... +[2] Elizabeth McGlathery b: Bet. 1748 - 1750 d: Aft. 1811 m: Abt. 1768 Father: Henry M. McGlathery Mother: Sarah Supplee ........ 2 Samuel DeHaven b: 1746 d: 1821 ........ 2 Jesse DeHaven b: 1748 in Whitpain, Montgomery Co d: Aft. 1785 ........... +? ........ 2 Abraham DeHaven b: 1750 d: 1829 ........ 2 Joes (John) DeHaven b: 1752 d: 1755 ........ 2 Hannah DeHaven b: 1754 IS this Hannah Dehaven you mentioned from this particular DeHaven family? Can you tell me if the Pennybacker you show is descended from Isaac Pennypacker? Thanks!!! Linda Frank Mayberry wrote: > Hi, Edward! I believe that we are related thru the Updegraff > surnames in a couple of instances. First one is through the > marriage of one of the Updegraff daughters to a Mayberry > in Frederick, Maryland or Hagerstown, Maryland. I had > a Peter J. Mayberry of Hagerstown who died in Oct 1902 and > was buried in Rose Hill. He (Peter) was an exSheriff of > Washington Co., Maryland in 1875-1877 also was elected to > the Maryland Legislature in 1882. He (Peter J. Mayberry) died > on Oct 27, 1902 (Daily Mail, Hagerstown, Monday, October 27th, > 1902). ee entry: "The pall=bearers, all cousins, will be A. A. > Mobley; I. R. Mobley; C. E. Heard; Geo. F. Updegraff, Ed > M. Updegraff, and Albert Heard. > Services this afternoon at 2 o'clock at the residence of Mrs. Wm. > Updegraff, W. Washington Street. Conducted by Rev. Dr. Dunbar, > of Baltimore, assisyted by Rev. Dr. Charles Albert of Philadelphia, > and Rev. F. J. Baum, of Trinity Lutheran church, with internment in > Rose Hill cemetery. > Also, I have a George Mayberry who married into the Dirck > Pennybacker family of Philadelphia. Dirck married Rebecca > Pennybacker dau of Dirck Pennybacker and Hannah DeHaven > of Philadelphia. George Mayberry was an Iron Master who > owned and operated the Columbia Furnace in the Shenandoah > County, Virginia. Any help will be highly appreciated. I am looking > for the parents of George Mayberry. Thanks, Frank Mayberry. ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 4 message/rfc822 Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 22:47:39 -0500 From: "Frank Mayberry" To: ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Dirck Pennybacker and Hannah DeHaven??? Hi, John & Linda Kyle Here is what I have on Hannah DeHaven. Name: Hannah DE HAVEN Sex: F Birth: 1737 Death: 1799 Father: Abraham DE HAVEN b: 1712 Mother: Rebecca PAWLING Marriage 1 Dirck PENNYBACKER b: 1 JAN 1736/37 in Philidalphia, Pennsylvania Married: 3 MAR 1756 in Pennsylvania Children Mary PENNYBACKER b: 1757 Benjamin D. Pennybacker SR. b: 29 SEP 1760 in Shenandoah County, Virginia Abraham PENNYBACKER b: 1764 Elizabeth PENNYBACKER b: JUN 1766 John PENNYBACKER b: 6 AUG 1768 Hannah PENNYBACKER b: 1770 in Virginia Derick PENNYBACKER b: 1780 in Rockingham County, Va Catherine PENNYBACKER b: 1772 Rebecca PENNYBACKER b: ABT. 1762 Isaac Samuels PENNYBACKER b: 3 SEP 1805 in Pine Forge Shenandoah County, Virginia Note: Go to following URL: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fmayberry&id=I018 3 Here is the Beginning of my page: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=fmayberry&surnam e=M Also note info about Rebecca Pawling I am looking for more information on her, if you run onto any information on her please let me know. Here is some more that I know about Rebecca Pawling who I believe is the same Rebecca Pawling that was listed on the 1850 and 1860 Census of Hampshire Co., Va(WV). Rebecca was living with Susan Taylor and her family. Susan Taylor is (I believe) named Susan Hass (not sure just guessing). I saw somewhere that a Susan Hass or maybe Stump was married to a Taylor. My ggrandpa Francis (aka Frank who me and my dad are named after) was also living in Susan Taylor's household. Apparently, her husband (Taylor) had passed on. There was also, a Rebecca Poling/Pawling living there and later on the 1860 Census she was living in the household of Mary Mayberry Smith wife of Capt Abraham Smith who was killed at the Spotsylvania Court House in 1864. Mary Mayberry was the daughter of my gggrandpa Israel & Catherine Hass Mayberry of Romney, Hampshire Co., Va(WV). I am searching for the date of death and place of burial of both Israel and Catherine my gggrandparents. Justinian Mayberry & Mary Ann Houser of Frederick, Frederick Co., Maryland were Israel's parents. I have lots of information on my direct line up to Justinian and Mary Ann Houser who were married at Frederick, Md in 1791. I lost track of the line with Justinian I am looking for his parents, who I think might tie into the connection to George Mayberry who I initally thought was the father of Israel until I found the Will made by Mary Ann Houser Mayberry who named him as her son born on 9May1794 at Frederick, Frederick Co., Maryland. If you have any information or a webpage with the information of more members of this family please let me know. Thanks, Frank R. Mayberry in Muskogee, Ok P.S. I am in the process of trying to correct the error that I have on my ggggrandparents, right now it shows George Mayberry & Rebecca Pennybacker which is an error now that I know that Justinian and Mary Ann are the right parents. Thanks, for any help and please keep in contact. Bye, Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: "John & Linda Kyle" To: Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 7:21 PM Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Dirck Pennybacker and Hannah DeHaven??? | Hi Frank, | | Regarding this email that you posted below, I know this is a later date, that you | have, but earlier on, I have the following: | | Descendants of William DeHaven I | | 1 William DeHaven I b: 1714 in Philadelphia, Now Montgomery Co, PA d: September | 10, 1784 in Montgomery County, PA Burial: Boehms Church, Blue Bell, PA | . +Hannah Cromber | ........ 2 [1] Andrew DeHaven b: February 19, 1744/45 in Blue Bell, Whitpain | Township, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania d: 1788 in Norristown, PA Burial: Blue | Bell Cemetery, Norristown PA | ........... +[2] Elizabeth McGlathery b: Bet. 1748 - 1750 d: Aft. 1811 m: Abt. 1768 | Father: Henry M. McGlathery Mother: Sarah Supplee | *2nd Wife of William DeHaven I: | . +Hannah (Cromber ?) Cramer b: 1717 in Whitpain Twp, Now Mont Co, PA d: June 25, | 1786 m: March 31, 1739 in First Presbyterian Church, Philadelphia, PA Father: | Nicholas ?? Kramer Burial: Buried in Blue Bell Church, PA | ........ 2 Margaretha DeHaven b: 1739 d: 1785 | ........ 2 Peter DeHaven III b: 1741 d: 1832 | ........ 2 Sarah DeHaven b: 1743 | ........ 2 [1] Andrew DeHaven b: February 19, 1744/45 in Blue Bell, Whitpain | Township, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania d: 1788 in Norristown, PA Burial: Blue | Bell Cemetery, Norristown PA | ........... +[2] Elizabeth McGlathery b: Bet. 1748 - 1750 d: Aft. 1811 m: Abt. 1768 | Father: Henry M. McGlathery Mother: Sarah Supplee | ........ 2 Samuel DeHaven b: 1746 d: 1821 | ........ 2 Jesse DeHaven b: 1748 in Whitpain, Montgomery Co d: Aft. 1785 | ........... +? | ........ 2 Abraham DeHaven b: 1750 d: 1829 | ........ 2 Joes (John) DeHaven b: 1752 d: 1755 | ........ 2 Hannah DeHaven b: 1754 | | IS this Hannah Dehaven you mentioned from this particular DeHaven family? Can you | tell me if the Pennybacker you show is descended from Isaac Pennypacker? | | Thanks!!! | | Linda | | | | Frank Mayberry wrote: | | > Hi, Edward! I believe that we are related thru the Updegraff | > surnames in a couple of instances. First one is through the | > marriage of one of the Updegraff daughters to a Mayberry | > in Frederick, Maryland or Hagerstown, Maryland. I had | > a Peter J. Mayberry of Hagerstown who died in Oct 1902 and | > was buried in Rose Hill. He (Peter) was an exSheriff of | > Washington Co., Maryland in 1875-1877 also was elected to | > the Maryland Legislature in 1882. He (Peter J. Mayberry) died | > on Oct 27, 1902 (Daily Mail, Hagerstown, Monday, October 27th, | > 1902). ee entry: "The pall=bearers, all cousins, will be A. A. | > Mobley; I. R. Mobley; C. E. Heard; Geo. F. Updegraff, Ed | > M. Updegraff, and Albert Heard. | > Services this afternoon at 2 o'clock at the residence of Mrs. Wm. | > Updegraff, W. Washington Street. Conducted by Rev. Dr. Dunbar, | > of Baltimore, assisyted by Rev. Dr. Charles Albert of Philadelphia, | > and Rev. F. J. Baum, of Trinity Lutheran church, with internment in | > Rose Hill cemetery. | > Also, I have a George Mayberry who married into the Dirck | > Pennybacker family of Philadelphia. Dirck married Rebecca | > Pennybacker dau of Dirck Pennybacker and Hannah DeHaven | > of Philadelphia. George Mayberry was an Iron Master who | > owned and operated the Columbia Furnace in the Shenandoah | > County, Virginia. Any help will be highly appreciated. I am looking | > for the parents of George Mayberry. 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Glenn: What is the "Opdengraeff Thesis Fragment?" Also, what is "the Opdengraef Family Mystery?" Sorry, if this was discussed previously, I must have missed it. Marilyn in Michigan PS: Where in Cologne are the two glass panes and are they viewable?

-----Original Message----- From: opdengraaf26@msn.com [mailto:opdengraaf26@msn.com] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 11:19 AM To: OPDENGRAEFF-L@rootsweb.com; UPTEGROVE-L@rootsweb.com; Germantown@yahoogroups.com Cc: GLENN WAYNE MILLER; MICHAEL KENNETH MILLER; IRIS CARTER JONES; Sholder, Kevin L; CALI ZIMMERMAN; Karen Cotton; Faith McClenny; DAVID HUGHES; Nigel Foster; John & Linda Kyle; GEORGE HEILMAN Subject: AMALIA VON KLEVE (1517--1586) AS BARONESS OP-DEN-GRAEFF (???) Greetings from Germantown, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania. 1. After some 40 years (1963--2003) in our amateur attempt to document the unpublished OPDENGRAEFF THESIS FRAGMENT (1963), we remain CONVINCED that the heraldry of the two extant Cologne glass panes of the OP DEN GRAFF WINDOWS OF KREFELD (AD 1630) reflects the heraldry of the United Dukedom of Julich (Juliers) and Cleves (Kleve) and Berg---perhaps in the form of the Holy Mary of the Arms of Julich, the Lohengrin Swan of the Arms of Cleves, and the Missing (???) or Transfigured (???) Lion of the Arms of Berg, the triple hearts of the Arms of the "Protestant" Bishop of Munster. 2. IF OUR PERSONAL MEMORY IS ON TARGET: The thesis fragment (1963) alleged that Anne of Cleves (Anna von Kleve) (1515--1557), the 1540 Queen of England, was a grandaunt of Hermen op den Graaf van de Aldekerk (1585--1642), the Mennonite lord biship of Krefeld, the crescent son (second son) and nonhereditary baron in the Order of the Holy Roman Empire; AND, that William IV (V) of Cleves (1516--1592) and his second bride (1546) Mary of Habsburg (1530--1584) (1531--1581) were the alleged paternal grandparents of the same Hermen op den Graaf (1585--1642), pointing to John William of Cleves (1562--1609) as himself the crescent son (second son) of the OP DEN GRAFF windows heraldry underneath the OP DEN GRAFF family motto. 3. BUT FOR MOST OF THESE FORTY YEARS (1963--2003)---in the scribble and garble of our AMATEUR NOTES, we have been OVERLOOKING the AMA (AMMA) OF AMALIA as the solution to the ANNA in the ANNA VON KLEVE (Anne of Cleves) puzzle. 4. WHO REALLY WAS THE "BARONESS MANDERSCHEID" OR THE "BARONESS OP-DEN-GRAEFF" OF ALLEGED COURT GOSSIP OF DUSSELDORF (???) or the alleged Tudor-Cleves documents held by the Spanish Embassy (???), Anne of Cleves (1515--1557), the 1540 Queen of England, or her younger and "unmarried" sister Amalia of Cleves (1517--1586)---(???). 5. Amalia of Cleves (1517--1586) as BARONESS OP-DEN-GRAEFF could explain the ALLEGED PROTESTANT LINE from the House of Cleves if she is the wife of her morganatic or nonhereditary FIRST COUSIN "Herman op den Graaf" (born about 1520), a son of her nonhereditary HALF-UNCLE Dietrich von Kleve (born about 1492), just ONE of the 60 nonhereditary children of her notorious grandfather John II of Cleves (1458--1521) aka JAN II VAN ALTENA aka JOHANN II VON KLEVE aka the PROLETARIUS aka DER KINDERMACHER aka THE BABYMAKER. 6. Due in part to the CENTURY MIXUP in the Herman Opdengraeff data and the Cleves data (1458--1683), I continue to belive in the DOUBLE DESCENT (both paternal and maternal) of Herman Opdengraeff (1585--1642) from his NOTORIOUS great-great grandfather John II of Cleves (1458--1521)---BOTH his nobleborn and legitimate greatgrandfather John III of Cleves (1490--1539), father of Anne of Cleves (1515--1557) the 1540 Queen of England, AND through his nonhereditary greatgrandfather Dietrich von Kleve (born about 1592) brother or halfbrother of another Abraham zu Graf or Abraham de Graef (???). 7. Thank you for your participation in the multiple attempts to solve the ongoing OPDENGRAEFF FAMILY MYSTERY. Sincerely, Glenn Wayne Miller, opdengraaf26@msn.com <mailto:opdengraaf26@msn.com> ///

My name is Steven Noall Streeper (pharmacist) (dob 8/19/43), son of Noall Robert Streeper(pharmacist), son of Wells Rich Streeper, son of William Henry Streeper II, son of William Henry Streeper (pony express rider), and all of whom are descendants of Wilhelm Streypers (aka William Streeper). My father moved to Pocatello, Idaho after WWII to attend Idaho State University. He lived in Pocatello for the rest of his life. My three sisters and a brother were all raised there. There's a large (relatively, for Idaho, that is) collection of Streepers around Idaho Falls, Idaho. They are descendants of one of my grandfathers' cousins, but don't know which one. Is very much known about Wilhelms' life, other than the major events? Steven Streeper Arco, Idaho