I am also a Corneilus Tyson descendent. How do you connect? Diane formerly: gladieuxfamily@cox.net new: vw65bug@cox.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <AMorris143@aol.com> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Tyson > I am also a descendant of Cornelius Tyson. From my research there is no > positive evidence that Cornelius and Ranier were brothers, but most sources > assusme that they were. A good source for information on the Tyson line is the > Germantown Historical Socity. > > Good luck with finding proof. If you find it my email is mjbmo@yahoo.com and > I would be interested in hearing from you. > Mary Jane > > ______________________________

I am also a descendant of Cornelius Tyson. From my research there is no positive evidence that Cornelius and Ranier were brothers, but most sources assusme that they were. A good source for information on the Tyson line is the Germantown Historical Socity. Good luck with finding proof. If you find it my email is mjbmo@yahoo.com and I would be interested in hearing from you. Mary Jane

Niepoth wrote that they were brothers. The KREFELD IMMIGRANTS in its latest issue has a very interesting article on it. It can be obtained from LINKS ijones@ns,net Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Stevensons" <tracker-01@charter.net> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 7:19 PM Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Tyson > Does anyone know the relationship between Cornelius Tyson and Reynear Tyson who came to Germantown circa 1863/84? I've heard they were brothers but have found no proof. I am a descendant of Cornelius. > > Susan Stevenson > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Keep your Anti-Virus Software up-to-date. Beware unidentified email > attachments. De-activate features that run HTML automatically. > ++++++++++++++ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Does anyone know the relationship between Cornelius Tyson and Reynear Tyson who came to Germantown circa 1863/84? I've heard they were brothers but have found no proof. I am a descendant of Cornelius. Susan Stevenson

so sorry. i inadvertently subscribed to the incorrect list. JTH ----- Original Message ----- From: EConard1@aol.com To: ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] THAMES surname How does the surname THAMES belong in our quest? Erik P Conard ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== Please do not post just general Philadelphia information, but material that is relevant to the 13 settling families of Germantown, PA, and their descendant lines. Anything on these is A-OK. Thanks... ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

How does the surname THAMES belong in our quest? Erik P Conard

hello - i am new to this list and would like to ask if anyone is researching the THAMES/THAME/TAME surname. one of our researchers on the Rootsweb THAMES surname list has found information that WILLIAM THAMES was granted a license in 1634 by King Charles I "to import tobacco from the colony of Virginia." William THAMES was born in 1584 in Dronfield, Derbyshire, England. His father's name was Henry THAME. William was a merchant in the towns of Buxton and Chapel en le Frith, England. William is said to have had two sons: Thomas, who lived in London (in Bishopsgate without the wall), and William who immigrated to Maryland in 1666, living possibly in Anne Arundel County. There are records which indicate that the William THAMES who immigrated to Maryland in 1666 had three sons - Joseph (who died in Charles Co, Md), Thomas (who is said to have lived in Md, Va, and NC, where he died) and John (who died in Queen Anne Co, Md). Many descendants of the THAMES family moved to NC, SC, GA, ALA, LA, MISS, TX, and FL. We know, however, that some THAMES-es stayed in Maryland and moved northward. Members of the Rootsweb THAMES surname list recently formed the THAMES/TIMS Family Association and we have set up a web site, www.thames-tims.org. Variations of the surname include TIMMS, TIMS, THEAMES, TIMES and others. I would love to hear from anyone who has any information on any THAMES family members. thanks, Julie Thames Howell Jacksonville, Fl

Here is the address in Philadelphia and an article on the musem. http://www.gophila.com/culturefiles/libraries/ghs/ http://www.germantownhistory.org/ Barbara Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: <Zinnia309@aol.com> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 5:59 PM Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] germantown directions > we are not sure which germantown to visit as we get several locations please > inform as to where to go in pa > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Keep your Anti-Virus Software up-to-date. Beware unidentified email > attachments. De-activate features that run HTML automatically. > ++++++++++++++ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Please keep notes. There will be a quiz later. Gene Stackhouse "Inside every old person is a young person wondering what the hell happened." ----- Original Message ----- Wrom: KHJYFMYXOEAIJJPHSCR To: ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] germantown directions let me write that down....Germantown is in Philadelphia. Thank heavens we still got guru Gene around....LOL. old Erik ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== Please feel free to post data to the list. You may eventually leave the list, but it would be nice if others could still benefit from your presence, even after you leave. Thanks for your participations..... ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

let me write that down....Germantown is in Philadelphia. Thank heavens we still got guru Gene around....LOL. old Erik

Germantown is in Philadelphia. Gene Stackhouse "Inside every old person is a young person wondering what the hell happened." ----- Original Message ----- Wrom: KSTTZRCLBDXRQBGJSNBO To: ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 5:59 PM Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] germantown directions we are not sure which germantown to visit as we get several locations please inform as to where to go in pa ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== Keep your Anti-Virus Software up-to-date. Beware unidentified email attachments. De-activate features that run HTML automatically. ++++++++++++++ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

we are not sure which germantown to visit as we get several locations please inform as to where to go in pa

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thank you for the message and i am looking forward to hearing from you again, my husband father was carl, son of charles and catherine updegraff and we are related some how. its interesting also to know that one of our ancesters was a gun slinger out west and had a battle with bat materson and brother. albert updegraff check that out good reading look up bat masterson last gunffight. sincerely harold and roxanne updegraff 309 6th street windber pa 15963.

I don't know if this will be helpful to you but here is a copy of a letter I recently sent to the Lycoming County Courthouse. I have not yet received a reply. If you learn anything, let me know. B.K. Uptagrafft Lycoming County Courthouse 48 W 3RD ST UNIT 1 Re: William Updegraff Williamsport, PA 17701-6514 ATT: Register or Recorder My name is Burnell K. Uptagrafft. I am working on my genealogy and have old court records from Lycoming County, PA., which include a "Bill of Information" dated 4 October 1891 charging William Updegraff with murder (and/or) attempted murder. With relation to this action, I also have a copy of a subpoena to Edward Derr, Jemella Derr and Reb Derr as well as a copy of a "Schedule of Property" of William Updegraff filed June 3, 1892. My great-great grandfather was Lathrup William Uptagrafft, a descendant of Herman Op Den Graeff who immigrated to America in 1683. (One of the Original 13 German Immigrants who founded Germantown, PA.) I am trying to establish the relationship of the subject William Updegraff and to discover the details and outcome of the proceedings relating to these court records. Is there anyone who can help me? Thank you for your prompt reply. B.K. Uptagrafft 1258 Terrace Place Camano Island, WA. 98282-8438 Telephone: (360) 387-5475 Bruno (B.K. & Shirley Uptagrafft) ----- Original Message ----- From: "nancy" <nancy.updegraff@verizon.net> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:21 PM Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Updegroff / Updegraff > >From John Updegraff > Am looking for Peter Updegroff's parents. > Peter was married to Rebeccia Sampsell, 3 Children Susan, Daniel, and Mary. > Peter was born about 1805, Rebeccia about 1807, Susan 1830, Daniel 1834, and Mary about 1837. > They are found in the 1850 censuss, Lycoming county, Washington township. Peter and Rebeccia are shown in the censuss and 2 entries down the 3 children are shown in Mis Hamilton's household. > Peter was a shoe maker by trade. and during the Civil War Daniel served in the Penna. 137th Volinteer Infantry and when discharged held the rank of 1st Seargent. > I have found this information in the censuss, historical sociaties, books and grave yard records and head stones. > And the internment records show Peter and Rebeccia as being Daniel's parents and am trying to find Information on Peter and Rebeccia. > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Transcribe Graves, Lookup Data Online, Lookup Data in Publications > Visit Historical Societies, Go to Libraries and courthouses. Take Photos > documents, stones, artifacts, etc. We will love it! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

>From John Updegraff Am looking for Peter Updegroff's parents. Peter was married to Rebeccia Sampsell, 3 Children Susan, Daniel, and Mary. Peter was born about 1805, Rebeccia about 1807, Susan 1830, Daniel 1834, and Mary about 1837. They are found in the 1850 censuss, Lycoming county, Washington township. Peter and Rebeccia are shown in the censuss and 2 entries down the 3 children are shown in Mis Hamilton's household. Peter was a shoe maker by trade. and during the Civil War Daniel served in the Penna. 137th Volinteer Infantry and when discharged held the rank of 1st Seargent. I have found this information in the censuss, historical sociaties, books and grave yard records and head stones. And the internment records show Peter and Rebeccia as being Daniel's parents and am trying to find Information on Peter and Rebeccia.

There's lots of Cadwallader descendants in the Lukens family - John Cadwallader the "minister" married Mary Cassel, daughter of Johannes Cassel, who came on the Jeffries in 1686. John Cadw's granddaughter Alice married Benjamin Lukens, grandson of Jan by Peter. Alice's Cadw..'s mother was Magdalene Cunrads, daughter of John Cunrads (son of Thones Kunders) and Elase Lukens, Jan's daughter. So Alice was her own great aunt or something like that... Nancy Caton, grandmother Caton was a Lukens

Dear Friends, I have a few CADWALADERs marrying into the COMFORT, RAWLE, COMLY, CASSEL families in the early 19th centuries. No David, however. Cordially, Jerry Zollars Santa Fe, NM Legacy Family Tree is changing the world of genealogy! Download it today FREE at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=26O8GQi "The 'working poor' as they are approvingly termed, are in fact the major philanthropists of our society. They neglect their own children so that the children of others will be cared for; they live in substandard housing so that other homes will be shiny and perfect; they endure privation so that inflation will be low and stock prices high. To be a member of the working poor is to be an anonymous donor, a nameless benefactor, to everyone else." Barbara Ehrenreich in "Nickel and Dimed"

Sorry I haven't come across any of those names (yet). Donna Regan

there are several Cadwal(l)ader marriages amongst the Original 13 descendants. Erik P Conard--Denver...many are Kunders descendants, by the way