My ancestor was Agnes (Neesgen) Op Den Graeff m Matthias (Johann) Doors/Teissen. Is your ancestor a sister, aunt, cousin of Agnes? Does anyone know who was father of Agnes? Linda

Thanks to Cathy Berger for the Bebber's Twp. map! She had loads of responses from around the country. Judy in CO ----- Original Message ----- From: ORIGINAL-13-D-request@rootsweb.com To: ORIGINAL-13-D@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 4:01 PM Subject: ORIGINAL-13-D Digest V03 #83

Hi Cathy, Thanks for your efforts on this. I am thinking that there are several Tysons (Theissen) on your list. True? Thanks, John R. Tyson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Berger" <o2bab@bedford.net> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Bebber's Township > No Bleiker, Blaker. > > Cathy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <DJOREGAN@aol.com> > To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 12:57 PM > Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Bebber's Township > > > > Any Bleicher or Blaker??? If so, will send envelope ASAP. > > > > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > > Unsubscribe by sending a blank email with only the word unsubscribe in > > the Subject and Body fields, with no signature file, etc., to: > > Original-13-L-request@rootsweb.com or Original-13-D-request@rootsweb.com > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Please feel free to post data to the list. You may eventually leave the > list, but it would be nice if others could still benefit from your > presence, even after you leave. Thanks for your participations..... > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

No, Cleavers. Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "JAMES SWEENEY" <jsweeney@tampabay.rr.com> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Bebber's Township > Any Cleavers. Nancy Lou > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cathy Berger <o2bab@bedford.net> > To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 2:19 PM > Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Bebber's Township > > > > I accidently zeroxed 10 copies (8x11) of Bebber's township map, showing > original owners. It is not my work, I got my copy at a library. But it is > beautifully done. The credits say: > > Researched by Wm Detweiler, Computer C......... by Harry Adams. Lettering > by Nancy Parendi. Not sure of spelling of these names. Original settlers > 1702-1724. > > > > Be glad to check it for your ancestor. Be glad to send a xerox copy if > you'll send me a stamped sell-addressed legal size envelope. My address: > Cathy Berger, 525 Egolf Rd, Bedford, PA 15522. > > > > Cathy > > > > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > > Be careful not to post materials that are known to be Copyrighted. It > > is inconsiderate of the publisher, and is illegal, besides. Of course > > it is OK if you get permission to do so. Mention that if applicable. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Be careful not to post materials that are known to be Copyrighted. It > is inconsiderate of the publisher, and is illegal, besides. Of course > it is OK if you get permission to do so. Mention that if applicable. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Sorry, none of them Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: <Tocnroc@aol.com> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Bebber's Township > Hello Cathy, > > Might there be any Kuster, Custer, Caster or Adams on your Bebber map? If > so, please reply and a SASE will be in the mail to you. > > Thanks > Terry > tocnroc@aol.com > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Be careful not to post materials that are known to be Copyrighted. It > is inconsiderate of the publisher, and is illegal, besides. Of course > it is OK if you get permission to do so. Mention that if applicable. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

No Bleiker, Blaker. Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: <DJOREGAN@aol.com> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Bebber's Township > Any Bleicher or Blaker??? If so, will send envelope ASAP. > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe by sending a blank email with only the word unsubscribe in > the Subject and Body fields, with no signature file, etc., to: > Original-13-L-request@rootsweb.com or Original-13-D-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Any Cleavers. Nancy Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: Cathy Berger <o2bab@bedford.net> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 2:19 PM Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Bebber's Township > I accidently zeroxed 10 copies (8x11) of Bebber's township map, showing original owners. It is not my work, I got my copy at a library. But it is beautifully done. The credits say: > Researched by Wm Detweiler, Computer C......... by Harry Adams. Lettering by Nancy Parendi. Not sure of spelling of these names. Original settlers 1702-1724. > > Be glad to check it for your ancestor. Be glad to send a xerox copy if you'll send me a stamped sell-addressed legal size envelope. My address: Cathy Berger, 525 Egolf Rd, Bedford, PA 15522. > > Cathy > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Be careful not to post materials that are known to be Copyrighted. It > is inconsiderate of the publisher, and is illegal, besides. Of course > it is OK if you get permission to do so. Mention that if applicable. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Cathy, I would like to have a copy and will send a stamped legal sized envelope. Thank you. Jane At 08:04 AM 12/28/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Jacob Updegrove is there > >Cathy >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jane Thompson" <frankie@tca.net> >To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 6:41 PM >Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Bebber's Township > > > > Cathy, > > > > Is there an Uptegrove, Upthegrove, etc. on the map? If so, I surely want >one. > > > > Jane Thompson > > > > At 12:16 PM 12/27/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > >no Keyser. > > > > > >Cathy > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: <Adamsgen@aol.com> > > >To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 11:00 AM > > >Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Bebber's Township > > > > > > > > > > Cathy, > > > > Is there a KEYSER on the map? Not sure which one, perhaps Derick. >If > > > > so, I'd like a copy of the map which seem to be going fast. In which > > >case I'll > > > > send the stamped envelope. > > > > Thanks for the offer. > > > > Diane in CO > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > > > > Please do not post just general Philadelphia information, but >material > > > > that is relevant to the 13 settling families of Germantown, PA, and > > > > their descendant lines. Anything on these is A-OK. Thanks... > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, > > >go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > > > Visit Our Homepage (Thanks, Liese Ade-Uptegrove for this!) at: > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~original13/ > > > Images, a facsimile signature of Thones Kunders, history, etc. > > > > > >============================== > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > > >go to: > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > > Keep your Anti-Virus Software up-to-date. Beware unidentified email > > attachments. De-activate features that run HTML automatically. > > ++++++++++++++ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > >==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== >Be careful not to post materials that are known to be Copyrighted. It >is inconsiderate of the publisher, and is illegal, besides. Of course >it is OK if you get permission to do so. Mention that if applicable. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello Cathy, Might there be any Kuster, Custer, Caster or Adams on your Bebber map? If so, please reply and a SASE will be in the mail to you. Thanks Terry tocnroc@aol.com

Edward Updegraff, I would be glad to compare notes with you. Both of my maternal grandparents were descendants of Hester Op den Graeff. Pat Weaver

Any Bleicher or Blaker??? If so, will send envelope ASAP.

Jacob Updegrove is there Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Thompson" <frankie@tca.net> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Bebber's Township > Cathy, > > Is there an Uptegrove, Upthegrove, etc. on the map? If so, I surely want one. > > Jane Thompson > > At 12:16 PM 12/27/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >no Keyser. > > > >Cathy > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <Adamsgen@aol.com> > >To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 11:00 AM > >Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Bebber's Township > > > > > > > Cathy, > > > Is there a KEYSER on the map? Not sure which one, perhaps Derick. If > > > so, I'd like a copy of the map which seem to be going fast. In which > >case I'll > > > send the stamped envelope. > > > Thanks for the offer. > > > Diane in CO > > > > > > > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > > > Please do not post just general Philadelphia information, but material > > > that is relevant to the 13 settling families of Germantown, PA, and > > > their descendant lines. Anything on these is A-OK. Thanks... > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > > Visit Our Homepage (Thanks, Liese Ade-Uptegrove for this!) at: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~original13/ > > Images, a facsimile signature of Thones Kunders, history, etc. > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Keep your Anti-Virus Software up-to-date. Beware unidentified email > attachments. De-activate features that run HTML automatically. > ++++++++++++++ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Any Sybilla Graeff s in your family? We probably are related anyway. Michael Gallagher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Updegraff" <1upde@charter.net> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Bebber's Township > On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 14:19:35 -0500 > "Cathy Berger" <o2bab@bedford.net> wrote: > >I accidently zeroxed 10 copies (8x11) of Bebber's > >township map, showing original owners. It is not my > >work, I got my copy at a library. But it is beautifully > >done. The credits say: > >Researched by Wm Detweiler, Computer C......... by Harry > >Adams. Lettering by Nancy Parendi. Not sure of spelling > >of these names. Original settlers 1702-1724. > > > >Be glad to check it for your ancestor. Be glad to send a > >xerox copy if you'll send me a stamped sell-addressed > >legal size envelope. My address: Cathy Berger, 525 Egolf > >Rd, Bedford, PA 15522. > > > >Cathy > > > > > >==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > >Be careful not to post materials that are known to be > >Copyrighted. It > >is inconsiderate of the publisher, and is illegal, > >besides. Of course > >it is OK if you get permission to do so. Mention that if > >applicable. > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > >genealogy records, go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > cathy any op den graeffes on it thanks i will be sending > you a stamped envelope out thanks > ed > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe by sending a blank email with only the word unsubscribe in > the Subject and Body fields, with no signature file, etc., to: > Original-13-L-request@rootsweb.com or Original-13-D-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Cathy, Is there an Uptegrove, Upthegrove, etc. on the map? If so, I surely want one. Jane Thompson At 12:16 PM 12/27/2003 -0500, you wrote: >no Keyser. > >Cathy >----- Original Message ----- >From: <Adamsgen@aol.com> >To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 11:00 AM >Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Bebber's Township > > > > Cathy, > > Is there a KEYSER on the map? Not sure which one, perhaps Derick. If > > so, I'd like a copy of the map which seem to be going fast. In which >case I'll > > send the stamped envelope. > > Thanks for the offer. > > Diane in CO > > > > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > > Please do not post just general Philadelphia information, but material > > that is relevant to the 13 settling families of Germantown, PA, and > > their descendant lines. Anything on these is A-OK. Thanks... > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > >==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Visit Our Homepage (Thanks, Liese Ade-Uptegrove for this!) at: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~original13/ > Images, a facsimile signature of Thones Kunders, history, etc. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Cathy....are their any left? I'll send an SASE Monday, as well. Thanks for your kindness... Emily > Cathy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edward Updegraff" <1upde@charter.net> > To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 7:08 PM > Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Bebber's Township > > > > On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 14:19:35 -0500 > > "Cathy Berger" <o2bab@bedford.net> wrote: > > >I accidently zeroxed 10 copies (8x11) of Bebber's > > >township map, showing original owners. It is not my > > >work, I got my copy at a library. But it is beautifully > > >done. The credits say: > > >Researched by Wm Detweiler, Computer C......... by Harry > > >Adams. Lettering by Nancy Parendi. Not sure of spelling > > >of these names. Original settlers 1702-1724. > > > > > >Be glad to check it for your ancestor. Be glad to send a > > >xerox copy if you'll send me a stamped sell-addressed > > >legal size envelope. My address: Cathy Berger, 525 Egolf > > >Rd, Bedford, PA 15522. > > > > > >Cathy > > > > > > > > >==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > > >Be careful not to post materials that are known to be > > >Copyrighted. It > > >is inconsiderate of the publisher, and is illegal, > > >besides. Of course > > >it is OK if you get permission to do so. Mention that if > > >applicable. > > > > > >============================== > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > > >genealogy records, go to: > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > cathy any op den graeffes on it thanks i will be sending > > you a stamped envelope out thanks > > ed > > > > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > > Unsubscribe by sending a blank email with only the word unsubscribe in > > the Subject and Body fields, with no signature file, etc., to: > > Original-13-L-request@rootsweb.com or Original-13-D-request@rootsweb.com > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Visit Our Homepage (Thanks, Liese Ade-Uptegrove for this!) at: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~original13/ > Images, a facsimile signature of Thones Kunders, history, etc. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

no Keyser. Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: <Adamsgen@aol.com> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Bebber's Township > Cathy, > Is there a KEYSER on the map? Not sure which one, perhaps Derick. If > so, I'd like a copy of the map which seem to be going fast. In which case I'll > send the stamped envelope. > Thanks for the offer. > Diane in CO > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Please do not post just general Philadelphia information, but material > that is relevant to the 13 settling families of Germantown, PA, and > their descendant lines. Anything on these is A-OK. Thanks... > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Cathy, Is there a KEYSER on the map? Not sure which one, perhaps Derick. If so, I'd like a copy of the map which seem to be going fast. In which case I'll send the stamped envelope. Thanks for the offer. Diane in CO

Hi, Cathy, If you have enough copies of Bebber's Map, I would like to obtain a copy. I will send the stamped, self-addressed envelope tomorrow. Thanks, Marilyn in Michigan

Jacob's on it Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Updegraff" <1upde@charter.net> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Bebber's Township > On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 14:19:35 -0500 > "Cathy Berger" <o2bab@bedford.net> wrote: > >I accidently zeroxed 10 copies (8x11) of Bebber's > >township map, showing original owners. It is not my > >work, I got my copy at a library. But it is beautifully > >done. The credits say: > >Researched by Wm Detweiler, Computer C......... by Harry > >Adams. Lettering by Nancy Parendi. Not sure of spelling > >of these names. Original settlers 1702-1724. > > > >Be glad to check it for your ancestor. Be glad to send a > >xerox copy if you'll send me a stamped sell-addressed > >legal size envelope. My address: Cathy Berger, 525 Egolf > >Rd, Bedford, PA 15522. > > > >Cathy > > > > > >==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > >Be careful not to post materials that are known to be > >Copyrighted. It > >is inconsiderate of the publisher, and is illegal, > >besides. Of course > >it is OK if you get permission to do so. Mention that if > >applicable. > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > >genealogy records, go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > cathy any op den graeffes on it thanks i will be sending > you a stamped envelope out thanks > ed > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe by sending a blank email with only the word unsubscribe in > the Subject and Body fields, with no signature file, etc., to: > Original-13-L-request@rootsweb.com or Original-13-D-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Cathy, I, too, will send an envelope on Monday. Thank you very much. Peggy in St. Louis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Berger" <o2bab@bedford.net> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 1:19 PM Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Bebber's Township > I accidently zeroxed 10 copies (8x11) of Bebber's township map, showing original owners. It is not my work, I got my copy at a library. But it is beautifully done. The credits say: > Researched by Wm Detweiler, Computer C......... by Harry Adams. Lettering by Nancy Parendi. Not sure of spelling of these names. Original settlers 1702-1724. > > Be glad to check it for your ancestor. Be glad to send a xerox copy if you'll send me a stamped sell-addressed legal size envelope. My address: Cathy Berger, 525 Egolf Rd, Bedford, PA 15522. > > Cathy > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Be careful not to post materials that are known to be Copyrighted. It > is inconsiderate of the publisher, and is illegal, besides. Of course > it is OK if you get permission to do so. Mention that if applicable. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237