Hi, I have become quite interested in Hance SUPPLEE and his wife and issue. They may tie in to my FITZGERALDs. Can anyone provide good, detailed info on them? About 2 generations should do... Thanks! Vince Summers

Cathy, I have been ill for 5 weeks and am behind on email. You sent me a copy of Bebber's township and I just wanted to thank you if I failed to do so earlier. I really appreciated it. There are ancestors of mine on the map. Thank you again. Peggy Mayfield ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Berger" <o2bab@bedford.net> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 1:19 PM Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Bebber's Township > I accidently zeroxed 10 copies (8x11) of Bebber's township map, showing original owners. It is not my work, I got my copy at a library. But it is beautifully done. The credits say: > Researched by Wm Detweiler, Computer C......... by Harry Adams. Lettering by Nancy Parendi. Not sure of spelling of these names. Original settlers 1702-1724. > > Be glad to check it for your ancestor. Be glad to send a xerox copy if you'll send me a stamped sell-addressed legal size envelope. My address: Cathy Berger, 525 Egolf Rd, Bedford, PA 15522. > > Cathy > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Be careful not to post materials that are known to be Copyrighted. It > is inconsiderate of the publisher, and is illegal, besides. Of course > it is OK if you get permission to do so. Mention that if applicable. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

There is one correction I would make regarding Richard Adams, the father of Susannah (Conrad's wife). Susannah's mother and Richard's first wife was Gertien Op den Graeff. Richard and Gertien had nine children. She died before 1726 when Richard remarried Elsie (Alse) Withers at Christ Church Philadelphia on Dec. 22, 1726. Barbara Tocnroc@aol.com wrote: > Hello Original-13 brothers and sisters, > > On 23 Jan 04 there was a series of emails asking questions and giving > information about the Kusters, the op den Graffs, and their connection to each > other and to the Original-13. As a member of the Castor Association of America > (CAOA) I would like to clarify some of the information. > > Let me set forth some vocabulary that I will use so that we will all know > what I'm talking about. The fully documented book written by Jean M White, > former president of the CAOA covers four generations of Paulus and Gertrude > (Doors) descendants. It is well documented and contains copies of signatures, > maps and deeds. When I refer to the, "Paulus Book", it is the book entitled, > "The Descendants of Paulus and Gertrude Kusters". A page number will be the > page in this book where this information is found. "Paulus" refers to the > immigrant and, "Gertrude", his wife. > > The first and ONLY Kuster/op den Graff connection is thru the grandson of > Paulus who was Conrad Custer. Conrad is the son of Arnold. Arnold is the > first son of Paulus. (page 19 and 22). Conrad married Susannah Adams who is the > daughter of Richard and Alse (op den Graff) Adams. Alse is the daughter of > Abraham op den Graff. Therefore only those people who descend from Conrad can > claim relationship to Abraham op den Graff > > Though the names of Kuster and Kunders are similar they are not the same > family. We feel fairly strongly about that. However there is a connection on > page 31. Research tells us that the wife of Paulus was Gerturde Doors. > Gertrude's sister, Elizabeth, married Peter Krulis on 17 Mar 1675 in Germany and > sister Helen/Lijntijen Theisson marries Tones Kunders also in Germany. Both > of these families arrive in Germantown in 1683 on the Concord. At this time > Paulus and Gertrude were still in Germany because records show that they were > sponsors at the baptism of their twin granddaughters, Gerdruet and Agnes on > 10 December 1696 in Krefeld, Germany.(page 15) > > In another (23 Jan 04) email the Custers (Kuster) are NOT descended from the > op den Graff family as explained above. > > The 3rd email on 23 Jan 04 from Lee is correct. If any are interested there > is a map showing the properties of Abraham and Richard Adams to be next to > each other. > > Thank you Conrad for the CAOA boost. > > For more information about the Castor Association of America (CAOA ) please > contact the president at president@caoa-gen.org. For more information about > the very informative Paulus book contact the treasurer at email > Treasurer@caoa-gen.org. > > I can be reached at tocnroc@aol.com > > Terry > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== Be careful not to post materials that are known to be Copyrighted. It is inconsiderate of the publisher, and is illegal, besides. Of course it is OK if you get permission to do so. Mention that if applicable. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!

Nice job clarifying the Kuster-op den Graff relationships. Those of us from afar have had a whale of a time just deciphering names! This is a very erudite, sophisticated site....EPC

> Hello Original-13 brothers and sisters, > > On 23 Jan 04 there was a series of emails asking questions and giving > information about the Kusters, the op den Graffs, and their connection to each > other and to the Original-13.  As a member of the Castor Association of America > (CAOA) I would like to clarify some of the information. > > Let me set forth some vocabulary that I will use so that we will all know > what I'm talking about.  The  fully documented book written by Jean M White, > former president of the CAOA covers four generations of Paulus and Gertrude > (Doors) descendants. It is well documented and contains copies of signatures, > maps and deeds. When I refer to the, "Paulus Book", it is the book entitled, > "The Descendants of Paulus and Gertrude Kusters".  A page number will be the > page in this book where this information is found.  "Paulus" refers to the > immigrant and, "Gertrude", his wife. > > The first and ONLY Kuster/op den Graff connection is thru the grandson of > Paulus who was Conrad Custer.  Conrad is the son of Arnold.  Arnold is the > first son of Paulus. (page 19 and 22).  Conrad married Susannah Adams who is the > daughter of Richard and Alse (op den Graff) Adams.  Alse is the daughter of > Abraham op den Graff.  Therefore only those people who descend from Conrad can > claim relationship to Abraham op den Graff > > Though the names of Kuster and Kunders are similar they are not the same > family.  We feel fairly strongly about that.  However there is a connection on > page 31.  Research tells us that the wife of Paulus was Gerturde Doors.  > Gertrude's sister, Elizabeth, married Peter Krulis on 17 Mar 1675 in Germany and > sister Helen/Lijntijen Theisson marries Tones Kunders also in Germany.  Both > of these families arrive in Germantown in 1683 on the Concord.  At this time > Paulus and Gertrude were still in Germany because records show that they were > sponsors at the baptism of their twin granddaughters, Gerdruet and Agnes on > 10 December 1696 in Krefeld, Germany.(page 15) > > In another (23 Jan 04) email the Custers (Kuster) are NOT descended from the > op den Graff family as explained above. > > The 3rd email on 23 Jan 04 from Lee is correct.  If any are interested there > is a map showing the properties of Abraham and Richard Adams to be next to > each other. > > Thank you Conrad for the CAOA boost.  > > For more information about the Castor Association of America (CAOA ) please > contact the president at president@caoa-gen.org.  For more information about > the very informative Paulus book contact the treasurer at email > Treasurer@caoa-gen.org.  > > I can be reached at tocnroc@aol.com > > Terry >

> Hello Original-13 brothers and sisters, > > On 23 Jan 04 there was a series of emails asking questions and giving > information about the Kusters, the op den Graffs, and their connection to each > other and to the Original-13.  As a member of the Castor Association of America > (CAOA) I would like to clarify some of the information. > > Let me set forth some vocabulary that I will use so that we will all know > what I'm talking about.  The  fully documented book written by Jean M White, > former president of the CAOA covers four generations of Paulus and Gertrude > (Doors) descendants. It is well documented and contains copies of signatures, > maps and deeds. When I refer to the, "Paulus Book", it is the book entitled, > "The Descendants of Paulus and Gertrude Kusters".  A page number will be the > page in this book where this information is found.  "Paulus" refers to the > immigrant and, "Gertrude", his wife. > > The first and ONLY Kuster/op den Graff connection is thru the grandson of > Paulus who was Conrad Custer.  Conrad is the son of Arnold.  Arnold is the > first son of Paulus. (page 19 and 22).  Conrad married Susannah Adams who is the > daughter of Richard and Alse (op den Graff) Adams.  Alse is the daughter of > Abraham op den Graff.  Therefore only those people who descend from Conrad can > claim relationship to Abraham op den Graff > > Though the names of Kuster and Kunders are similar they are not the same > family.  We feel fairly strongly about that.  However there is a connection on > page 31.  Research tells us that the wife of Paulus was Gerturde Doors.  > Gertrude's sister, Elizabeth, married Peter Krulis on 17 Mar 1675 in Germany and > sister Helen/Lijntijen Theisson marries Tones Kunders also in Germany.  Both > of these families arrive in Germantown in 1683 on the Concord.  At this time > Paulus and Gertrude were still in Germany because records show that they were > sponsors at the baptism of their twin granddaughters, Gerdruet and Agnes on > 10 December 1696 in Krefeld, Germany.(page 15) > > In another (23 Jan 04) email the Custers (Kuster) are NOT descended from the > op den Graff family as explained above. > > The 3rd email on 23 Jan 04 from Lee is correct.  If any are interested there > is a map showing the properties of Abraham and Richard Adams to be next to > each other. > > Thank you Conrad for the CAOA boost.  > > For more information about the Castor Association of America (CAOA ) please > contact the president at president@caoa-gen.org.  For more information about > the very informative Paulus book contact the treasurer at email > Treasurer@caoa-gen.org.  > > I can be reached at tocnroc@aol.com > > Terry >

There is an excellent family association devoted to the Paulus and Arnold (Aret) Custer descendants. It is called KESTER, another variant spelling. I would urge all who are of these lines to attempt to make contact and that way you will be in the midst of all the action. Good luck...GA Custer was a Lt Col at death, not a General, by the way.

Let me try and answer Michael's question about the Opden Graff and Kuesters. I have Abraham Isaac Op den Graff as the orginal immigrant. His daughter Gertien Op den Graff marris Richard Addams probably in Philidaphia area and have daughter Susannah. Susannah marries Conrad Custard (as I have the name spelled). Conrad's fatehr was Arnold Kuster, who along with his father Paul Kuesters and mother Gertrude Doors were orginal immigrants. I can furnish more generations both ways if desired. The Kuesters name is spelled various ways and does change over time depending upon which line is followed. The name does become Custer and does include George Armstrong Custer. Hope this helps. Lee McConkey

While I do not have the lineage, I do believe the Custer (and variants) family are descended from the op den Gräff tribe. Many of the 13 families were...so, you Kuster descendants, could you help Gallagher out? Thanks, Erik P Conard

Clearing out my inbox- I heard from another original 13 subscriber that Kusters relate to the op den Graeffs ( thus to Kunders indirectly & the original 13 directly). Where can I find the chart, outline, or other method of clear showing (clarity is more important that brevity, as long as the verbosity doesn't confuse). Michael Gallagher Descendant of Gertrude Doors, whose brother sailed on the Conrad ----- Original Message ----- From: <EConard1@aol.com> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:43 AM Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] New member who is 1/8 PA German/Deutsch/Dutch (all Palatina... > Again it pops up in spite of decades of denial. > Neither Isabella or Gertrud Conrad nor the consolidated Mayor of Philadelphia > Robert > Taylor Conrad were descendants of Thones Kunders. Prove me wrong. Prithee > do. > We continue to use old materials, long debunked, and some societies seem to > accept them sans proof or sources. > Let us take a look again...Erik P Conard, Denver > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Transcribe Graves, Lookup Data Online, Lookup Data in Publications > Visit Historical Societies, Go to Libraries and courthouses. Take Photos > documents, stones, artifacts, etc. We will love it! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi, Cathy! I read a little of the attached but not all, I saw some names that might be related like DeHaven, UpDeGraeff names. I have some information on these names on my previous webpage at: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=fmayberry Note: The info on George Mayberry being my ggggrandpa is not correct, as I have since found my real ggggrandpa Justinian & Mary Ann Houser Mayberry who were parents of about ten children included is my gggrandpa Israel Mayberry b. May 9, 1794 at Frederick, Maryland. I am now looking for the parents of Justinian who I believe was born in Montgomery Co., Pa. at or near Falkner's Swamp. I saw a Justin or Justinian Mayberry married to Anna ?? who had other children born and baptized in the area and recorded in the New Hanover Lutheran Church in Falkner's Swamp, Montgomery Co., Pa. sometime around 1703-1800. Also, mentioned on page 184, right col Egle's Notes Annual Volume, CD #19, 1898, notes and queries XXX -- Baptismal Records begins in 1743 166 pages thru 1747. Mentions John Pawling's son. (no name) age 2 in Providence. I have info on Rebecca Pawling who was mentioned as living with the Susan Taylor Family (Susan) head of household on the 1850 Census of Romney, Hampshire Co., Va(WV). Also, she was living with the two Mayberry sisters (Mary and Sarah) on the 1860 Census, their husbands were in the Civil War and both were killed. One of the sons of Susan Taylor (name was Simon D. Taylor) later shows up on the 1870 Census of Grand River Township, Cass County, Missouri. Rebecca Pawling was still living with the Taylor surname. She is buried in the Simon D. Taylor gravesite in the Grand River Twp Cemetery. She was indicated as being buried there however; her name was not located on a tombstone. Someone had scratched the name on the bottom of Simon D. Taylor's tombstone located in that cemetery named above. Apparently, she was closely related either to Susan Taylor who I believe her name was Susan Stump before marriage and a daughter of Peter Hass who married a man named Stump. This is my assumption so it's not really a verifiable source, but just that I have seen a reference to a Susan Stump marrying a Taylor sometime before my present search at the time back in the 1999/2000 time frame is when I saw and visited the Cemetery which is located about a quarter of a mile west of the main road which was apparently a section road which was of gravel hardtop. My gggrandpa Francis (aka Frank) Mayberry was a close friend of Simon D. Taylor. I found them located living next door to each other at the close of the Civil War both had moved to Cass Co., Mo. after the war's end. The Mayberry sisters Mary and Sarah had moved to Lexington, Lafayette Co., Mo. which was about 20 miles north near Kansas City, Mo. Hope this helps someone. Bye, Frank R. Mayberry in Muskogee, Ok ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Berger" <o2bab@bedford.net> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 8:29 AM Subject: !Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Bebber's Township- my Tyson and Updegraff collections > Dear John, > > Did I answer? Now up to 971 emails (eliminated 15 this a.m. before 9.) and > can't remember what I did about your letter. Since it is still here the > rule is that I didn't immediately answer - and that is why I have so many to > do! No, the truth is that most of them are jokes or funny, or inspirational > and I hate to send more than three a day to my friends. And many days I > don't have time to forward any, so they accumulate. Just like rabbits! > > My Tyson list isn't long. But it took me a long long time to find my > correct line. So I proceeded to gather ALL Tyson information. Since I was > living at that time just outside Philadelphia and as a guidance counselor > had my summers off, I had the time to copy everything at PA Hist. Soc, plus > Montgomery Co. At least I copied everything I found. My Tyson and > Updegraff collections fill three long file boxes, and they are alphabetical > by males, females, and cross references. I'd never have time to do that > today, now that I am retired, so am sure glad I did it then. > > My line goes Cornelius to Matthias, to John who I have proven to my > satisfaction married Ann Updegrove, daughter of Jacob and Anneke (DeHaven). > John had a mill in Upper Darby and left a will naming his children, > including name of married daughter. He is buried at Blockley Baptist. His > son Matthias fought in Rev War from Chester Co, married a Supplee, and is > buried at Welsh Baptist. John's son Isaac died in New Castle Co and his > will named all his brothers and sisters. The rest of John's sons were in > Cecil Co, MD. My ancestor was his son Benjamin, who married 1st Dorothy > Morgan, d/o Jesse and Mary (?), gddau of Morgan Morgan and Dorothy (Hughes), > and gtgddau of Edward Morgan who is supposed to have built the Morgan House, > now a museum. Benjamin's dau Nancy married Matthew Alexander who was born > in Cecil Co. > > CAthy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Tyson" <jtyson@froggernet.com> > To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 6:51 PM > Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Bebber's Township > > > > Hi Cathy, > > > > Thanks for your efforts on this. > > > > I am thinking that there are several Tysons (Theissen) on your list. > True? > > > > Thanks, > > > > John R. 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I was just kidding...several folks get their panties all in a wad over this "native american' stuff....LOL Erik P Conard--Denver

Because of some glitch on my Outlook Explorer - since I tried updating it - I am not able to open any forwards with attachments. If it is not possible to send me the Original - 13 items without attachment I shall have to unsubscribe. Thank you Nancy Walker Baldwin descendant of Thones Kunder

Why don't you just fix your "Outlook Explorer" whatever that is????? Bruno (B.K. Uptagrafft) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Baldwin" <talleyho@iquest.net> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 4:48 PM Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Re: ORIGINAL-13-D Digest V04 #1 > Because of some glitch on my Outlook Explorer - since I tried updating it - > I am not able to open any forwards with attachments. > > If it is not possible to send me the Original - 13 items without attachment > I shall have to unsubscribe. > > Thank you > > Nancy Walker Baldwin > descendant of Thones Kunder > > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Visit Our Homepage (Thanks, Liese Ade-Uptegrove for this!) at: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~original13/ > Images, a facsimile signature of Thones Kunders, history, etc. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ________________________________________________________________ Keep unwanted email out. Visit www.spamsubtract.com for more information.

How does my lack of family info on the Freymans make me a native American? Or do you mean native as in really mixed born here? ----- Original Message ----- From: <EConard1@aol.com> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] New member who is 1/8 PA German/Deutsch/Dutch (all Palatina... > guess that makes you a native american > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Be careful not to post materials that are known to be Copyrighted. It > is inconsiderate of the publisher, and is illegal, besides. Of course > it is OK if you get permission to do so. Mention that if applicable. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

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Dear John, Did I answer? Now up to 971 emails (eliminated 15 this a.m. before 9.) and can't remember what I did about your letter. Since it is still here the rule is that I didn't immediately answer - and that is why I have so many to do! No, the truth is that most of them are jokes or funny, or inspirational and I hate to send more than three a day to my friends. And many days I don't have time to forward any, so they accumulate. Just like rabbits! My Tyson list isn't long. But it took me a long long time to find my correct line. So I proceeded to gather ALL Tyson information. Since I was living at that time just outside Philadelphia and as a guidance counselor had my summers off, I had the time to copy everything at PA Hist. Soc, plus Montgomery Co. At least I copied everything I found. My Tyson and Updegraff collections fill three long file boxes, and they are alphabetical by males, females, and cross references. I'd never have time to do that today, now that I am retired, so am sure glad I did it then. My line goes Cornelius to Matthias, to John who I have proven to my satisfaction married Ann Updegrove, daughter of Jacob and Anneke (DeHaven). John had a mill in Upper Darby and left a will naming his children, including name of married daughter. He is buried at Blockley Baptist. His son Matthias fought in Rev War from Chester Co, married a Supplee, and is buried at Welsh Baptist. John's son Isaac died in New Castle Co and his will named all his brothers and sisters. The rest of John's sons were in Cecil Co, MD. My ancestor was his son Benjamin, who married 1st Dorothy Morgan, d/o Jesse and Mary (?), gddau of Morgan Morgan and Dorothy (Hughes), and gtgddau of Edward Morgan who is supposed to have built the Morgan House, now a museum. Benjamin's dau Nancy married Matthew Alexander who was born in Cecil Co. CAthy ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Tyson" <jtyson@froggernet.com> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Bebber's Township > Hi Cathy, > > Thanks for your efforts on this. > > I am thinking that there are several Tysons (Theissen) on your list. True? > > Thanks, > > John R. Tyson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cathy Berger" <o2bab@bedford.net> > To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 8:21 AM > Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Bebber's Township > > > > No Bleiker, Blaker. > > > > Cathy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <DJOREGAN@aol.com> > > To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 12:57 PM > > Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Bebber's Township > > > > > > > Any Bleicher or Blaker??? If so, will send envelope ASAP. > > > > > > > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > > > Unsubscribe by sending a blank email with only the word unsubscribe in > > > the Subject and Body fields, with no signature file, etc., to: > > > Original-13-L-request@rootsweb.com or > Original-13-D-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > > Please feel free to post data to the list. You may eventually leave the > > list, but it would be nice if others could still benefit from your > > presence, even after you leave. Thanks for your participations..... > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Avoid posting well-known URLs. Everyone knows Rootsweb is at > http://www.rootsweb.com Assume everyone is familiar with the basic > search engines, telephone directories, mapping sites, etc. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

All I know is of Sarah Ann Freyman & her father Jonathan (sp?) & I have her mother's name written somewhere. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Berger" <o2bab@bedford.net> To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] New member who is 1/8 PA German/Deutsch/Dutch (all Palatinate) & 3/8 total German (Bavaria & Vienna/nearby Austria/Czech) > Michael, I see that you list Freyman. SEveral of us have been searching for > years for Henrick Freyman and his family. My date is his daughter in 1765 > marriage. Jim Freeman has a website which you should visit. > > Cathy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Gallagher" <famtree@UDel.Edu> > To: <ORIGINAL-13-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 3:43 PM > Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] New member who is 1/8 PA German/Deutsch/Dutch (all > Palatinate) & 3/8 total German (Bavaria & Vienna/nearby Austria/Czech) > > > > Hi list, > > > > I'm new, but I have been doing genealogy since July 1995 when I started as > a 12 year old. I think I'm descended from Thomas Kunders (I am off the > Kuster line). I noticed familiar names being researched, like Clevering (an > ancestor- in-law). Names include Rex/Ruger of Germantown & Lehigh/Carbon > County & OH, Silfies (there is a Silvius-L :) ), Orner, Holder (Kuster > line), Miller, Freyman/Fryman (BIG gap). > > > > I found my Palatinate & Bavarian ancestors' relatives living in the same > canton (Zurich) in the 1750s. Anybody out there related to me or familiar > with my line? 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have kinda been asleep a long time over this...Agnes, aka Nees, Niske, Neesgen, op den Grãff was likely the daughter of Herman but I do not know if it has been 'nailed' for sure. EPC