I hit the send button too soon. I have her b abt 1730, but that's based on a listing of Wm's kids in birth order - in other words it's a guess. I do know for sure that her parents m 27 sep 1710 at Abingdon MM (although it could be 27 of 9th month which would not be Sep), and her mother d in 1765 age 75.

I have this in my database, found at the URL at the top of the quote > http://www.genweb.net/~leesue/Pottsth.htm > 121. Thomas POTTS was born in 1729. He died on Jul 26 1776 in Chelsea Forge, Sussex Co., New Jersey. He was a millwright by trde and lived in Moreland Township for some time. On June 22, 1753, Walter Moore and Sarah his wife conveyed to Thomas Potts, millwright, of the Manor of Moreland, one helf of a certain corn mill, etc., and two parcels of land in Moreland. He subsequently removed to Sussex County, New Jersey, and settled at Chelsea Forge, where he had a landed estate. He was High Sheriff of Sussex County in 1772, and a Member of the Provincial Assembly in 1775 and 1776. He married Elizabeth Lukens, daughter of William and Elizabeth (Tyson) Lukens, Jan 16, 1753. He died July 29, 1776. His widow subsequently married Dr. John Rockhill, a widower with children. (NOTE: Dr. John Rockhill, son of Edward and Elizabeth (Taylor) Rockhill, married, first, Rachel Robeson,) There were no children by this marriage, but some of the descendants by their former marriages intermarried! . ! ! Dr. Rockhill was born March 22, 1726, and died April 7, 1798. Ellizabeth survived him. > > The Potts Family in Great Britain and America, 1901 - Thomas Maxell Potts > > He was married to Elizabeth LUKENS. Thomas POTTS and Elizabeth LUKENS had the following children: > +365 i. Elizabeth POTTS. > 366 ii. Joseph POTTS was born. Died unmarried at about sixty years of age. > +367 iii. Gainor POTTS. > +368 iv. William Lukens POTTS. > +369 v. Hugh Henry POTTS.

Here is a list of Charles STREEPERs from my STREEPER data base. If you have information on any of these individuals, please contact me. Maurine Ward Charles STREEPER b 26 Nov 1809 d 25 Feb 1895, bur Barren Hill PA md Priscilla md 1835 Philadelphia md Kathryn LUKE or LAKE b 1 Mar 1837 d 10 Oct 1907 md abt 1859 md Hannah DEVON or DEVLIN b 10 Aug 1831 of PA d 25 Feb 1892 bur Barren Hill PA md Louisa J. b 30 Oct 1878 d Mar 1966 of PA b 28 Nov 1900 d Jun 1973 of PA b 14 Feb 1905 d Aug 1964 of NV b 9 Jun 1929 d 2 Jun 1998 of Willingborough, NJ Mountain man, lived near Fort Bridger, rode horse from Pacific Ocean to Atlantic and back Charles A STREEPER b 24 Aug 1860 Chestnut Hill PA d 20 Jan 1941 bur Ivy Hill Cemetery Philadelphia md Apr 1885 to Phebe U. JOSLIN Charles A STREEPER, Jr. Salesman in 1890 Philadelphia Directory, Gtn Ave and Springfield Ave, Chestnut Hill, PA Charles Arthur STREEPER b 25 Feb 1873 Centerville UT d 11 Aug 1856 Salt Lake City UT md 22 Jun 1878 Salt Lake City to Susan Ella VAN FLEET Charles Augustus STREEPER b 25 Nov 1852 Salt Lake City UT d 21 Jun 1924 Idaho Falls ID md 18 Fan 1899 Blackfoot ID md Margaret HARGRAVES Charles C. STREEPER parents Joseph/John A. STREEPER and Anna S. BOWER Charles Francis Shaefter STREEPER b 1 Jun 1863 Davenport IA d 27 Oct 1935 Oakland CA md 9 Jun 1900 Bertha ELLISON Charles H. STREEPER bur Barren Hill PA no date Charles Leroy STREEPER b 2 Sep 1884 d 17 Dec 1952 md 26 Feb 1913 md Elsie HAMILTON Charles S. STREEPER b 25 Oct 1837 Spring Mill PA d 4 Mar 1910 Davenport IA md 18 Jul 1860 Davenport IA to Mary MAYS or Mary Mays STEVENSON b 27 Feb 1828 Chestnut Hill PA d 27 Jul 1907 md 9 Oct 1851 Germantown md Ann Catherine PETERMAN Charles V. STREEPER b 12 Feb 1905 Chicago IL Charles W. STREEPER machinist in 1890 Philadelphia Directory, 1912 Taylor Charles Willard STREEPER b 1 Dec 1866 Marple PA md Susan LONG and Mary Alice Bartlet JACK

Thanks, Vincent. Do you mind if I send it to the DeHaven Family Association? Do you know who were his parents and grandparents? Thanks again, Margaret (desc from Mary DeHaven baptized St. Gabriels in Douglassville, Berks Co) -----Original Message----- From: Vincent E. Summers [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 4:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Civil War BENJAMIN DEHAVEN ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/luzerne/military/pensions/deha0001.txt Vince ============================== The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/luzerne/military/pensions/deha0001.txt Vince

ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/luzerne/land/butl0001.txt Vince

Hi List New immigrant here! I am a desc. of Abraham and Isaac Op Den Graeff, Paulus Kusters and Gertrude Doors, Richard Adams who married into the group, and others. Going to the homeland, Germantown, the end of this month. Besides visiting the historical society, the family spots mentioned in the Kuster book, the USA history related places, is there any place you all would suggest I NOT miss? Barb

Need vitals for Elizabeth Lukens and Thomas Potts and their mar date. Elizabeth Lukens was the dau of Wm Lukens, b. 22 Dec 1688, d 1739 in Germantown, Phila., Pa. and Elizabeth Tyson, b. 7 Aug 1690, d. 16 Feb. 1765. Thanks for any information. Mary Deaves

I would be interested in What exact religion? Has anyone posted this info as to the religion of the Original 13? Thanks, Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vincent E. Summers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 10:17 AM Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Abraham LUKENS What exact religion? > I have Abraham LUKENS as the son of Jan LUCKEN. Of course many of us > have that listing. Now Jan was either Mennonite or Quaker, right? > Do I remember that about 2 of the 13 were Quaker, and the rest > Mennonite, or something like that? (In fact, would someone please > show a list of the 13, and put their religion next to their name for > the benefit of us all, please?) > > Then what religion was Abraham LUKENS his son? You see, the cover of > the book that had all the scripted births and deaths entries for > Abraham LUKENS gives mention of the Church of England on the cover. > > Thus, I am confused, as usual... > > Vince > > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >

Was Peter Cleaver among the original 13???? Nancy Lou

I received this communication and apparently he is open to helping others as well. Good Luck, Lea From: <A HREF="mailto:Ableth">Ableth</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:LEABUZBY">LEABUZBY</A> Hello Lea. in Rochester NY. Just to tell you that there were 172 Cadwallader`s in Wales in 1881. Mostly in the north and west. I doubt if you have any more info on your family in Wales, but if so I would be interested, then I can keep my eye out at various news groups. Also anything anytime that you want to know about Wales etc. Please ask .No bother at all. Thanks and Regards Allen in Port Talbot S. Wales. [email protected]

Hi all!, He and Mary Maule where my direct... does anyone have ANYthing On her??somehow I don't :-) My Dig Camera moved out, so I can't even do the BIBLE But I too would Love to see what was said in that family, as I coolect more history than names... Thanks All Cali's German PA, Genealogy http://www,geocities.com/heartland/Falls/3610 I will be putting an updated page at rootsweb soon..There are some errors in the first page I need to remove, or fix.. Thanks,Cali {{{HUGS}}}} ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Hello everyone, I haven't really been following this thread, but Mary Deaves spoke of Jan Luken's Bible. It is kept at the Montgomery County Historical Society in Norristown and was available for viewing at least a couple years ago. I thought this was common knowledge or am I mistaken and you all are talking about another Lucken Bible? Regards, Joan

Vince asked that this be posted to the list. I do not have a copy of the Dutch Bible bought to this country by Jan Lukens (Lucken) (Luykens). About 15 - 20 years ago, when Tacy Blake, a member of the Genealogical Sociey of Pennsylvania, located on Locust Street in Philadelphia, asked to see this bible, she was denied access. I do not know if the bible was the property of the Historical Society of Pa. or The Genealogical Society both housed in the same building, but since have parted ways. It seems to me a photocopy of this bible should be available to patrons of both societies. I gave up my membership to the Genealogical Society of Pa. when retiring to Florida, 20 years ago. Somewhere in my files ( in such disarray, luck plays a part in finding anything) is a statement of Abraham Lukens, when he was about to marry Elizabeth Walker, he apologized for marrying out of meeting and he was immediately re-enstated. They were married at the Gwynedd (Pa) MM on 26 November 1771. From this statement, can we assume that Abraham was a Quaker? Does this statement mean that Elizabeth Walker was a Quaker, connected to another Meeting or does it mean she was not a Quaker? Regards, Mary Deaves

I have Abraham LUKENS as the son of Jan LUCKEN. Of course many of us have that listing. Now Jan was either Mennonite or Quaker, right? Do I remember that about 2 of the 13 were Quaker, and the rest Mennonite, or something like that? (In fact, would someone please show a list of the 13, and put their religion next to their name for the benefit of us all, please?) Then what religion was Abraham LUKENS his son? You see, the cover of the book that had all the scripted births and deaths entries for Abraham LUKENS gives mention of the Church of England on the cover. Thus, I am confused, as usual... Vince

Does anyone have the birthdate/place -- possibly even just the parents -- of Elizabeth WALKER, a wife of Abraham Lucken/Lukens, b. Sept. 16, 1703 in Towamencin, Pennsylvania? That is ***he*** was born there. The marriage, leading me to suspect the birthplace of Elizabeth, was in Gwynedd, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, on November 26, 1771. Especially valuable would be a source listed with the data... Thanks, Vince Summers

"Vincent E. Summers" wrote: > > > Please note that the expression TRUE DATE is used in one spot. Since > this prayer book is dated 1754, I am in the belief that it may be just > a bit hard to interpret what is meant here. Perhaps some will comment > on this. It would be especially beneficial if someone who is likely > to be in a position to actually *know*, would comment. Of course all > comments are welcome, especially if you have reason to think you may > have a particularly valid perspective, even though not being positive. > Vince. Was not sure what you meant by "true date" until you posted the year..... The change to the Gregorian calendar for the British crown and its colonies occurred in 1752, so would more than suspect this was a reference to the "new calender". -- joe

Hi, folks, I was very fortunate in being contacted by Mary Deaves, and receiving a xeroxed cover and some data out of the prayer book of Abraham LUKENS MDCCLIV. The information is listed as Courtesy of Tacy Blake. Now this is not copyright material, I feel sure. And I do not think I am stepping on anyones toes (I do hope not! I am sorry if I am...) by having scanned this information, and put it for download, in zip format, to: http://www.cv.nrao.edu/~vsummers/myfiles/ The zipped file is listed at 896 Kilobytes. This is just a little less than a megabyte, and may take a number of minutes to download. It has the cover of the book, the two pages (script) of the book with data, and two sheets of typed transcription of the information. Please note that the expression TRUE DATE is used in one spot. Since this prayer book is dated 1754, I am in the belief that it may be just a bit hard to interpret what is meant here. Perhaps some will comment on this. It would be especially beneficial if someone who is likely to be in a position to actually *know*, would comment. Of course all comments are welcome, especially if you have reason to think you may have a particularly valid perspective, even though not being positive. Thanks, and I hope many more will present such data! It is of a very high quality, and is much appreciated... Vince Summers

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Thanks, Mary: I appreciate the copy of the Abraham Lukens (and Mary Maule and Elizabeth Walker) bible pages you sent me. They arrived today, and I have entered the data. It differed just slightly from what I had, and added a bit. But it was great source! Question... When someone says it is the TRUE DATE what exactly was meant by that? I know that there is a difference between the Old Style Calendar and the new, but what is actually meant by ***true*** date? Thanks, Vince Summers