This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1963C92CC427876E7F064030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought this might interest those looking at the Gerritt/Jarrett folks. This came to me through an automated search, and I know nothing about the person who posted it or where the information came from. If you would like further information, contact the original poster or check the Jarrett archives. --------------1963C92CC427876E7F064030 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from pml.rootsweb.com ([63.92.80.44]) by walker.mail.mindspring.net (Mindspring Mail Service) with ESMTP id st9td9.17lf.37kbi73 for <[email protected]>; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:03:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from [email protected]) by pml.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA19502; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:03:51 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:03:51 -0700 Message-Id: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] From: Sara Patton <[email protected]> Precedence: junk Subject: PML Search Result matching Overstreet ANDNOT x-loop/OVERSTREET-L X-Loop: [email protected] X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 ===================================================================== A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ ===================================================================== Source: [email protected] Subject: Bedford Co, VA Jarretts Found these on Bedford site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vabedfor/bedf-mar.htm Thought they might help someone! Sara Patton Bedford County Marriage Bonds Extracted from the appendix in Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, Vol VI, Virginia. (Marriages are NOT Quaker) JARED, JARRED, JARRETT · Oct. 23, 1780; Joseph Jarrett & Aggy Beard, dt Margit Young; George Simmons, Surety. · Dec. 3, 1791; Henry Preas & Rachel Jarred, dt John Jarrad; Thomas Preas, Surety. · Jan. 27, 1794; Israel Jarred & Elizabeth Brown; Henry Preas, Surety. · ___ 25, 1803; Thomas Jarratt & Polly Adkerson; Lewis Adkerson, Surety; Married by James Turner, April 28, 1803. · Jan. 19, 1805; Joseph Jarred & Betsey Baker, dt Sam., Sr. and Mary; Abraham Baker, Surety; Married by Richard Pope, Jan. 24, 1805. · Sep. 26, 1805; Joel Jarred & Polly Dowell; Micajah Dowell, Surety. · Jan. 14, 1806; Robert Beard, (or Beird) & Sarah Jared. dt John and Rachel; Joel Jared, Surety; Married by Richard Pope, Jan. 18. · Jan. 5, 1807; Samuel Beard & Elizabeth Jarred, dt John; Thomas Jaret, Surety; Married by Richard Pope, Jan. 10, 1807. · Jul. 25, 1814; John Jarred & Elizabeth Bandy, dt George; Richard Bandy, Surety. · Jan. 6, 1822; Thomas B. Jarrett & Martha Reese; Robt. Reese, Surety. JARREL · Jul. 8, 1786; John Roach & Amy Jarrel, dt David; Henry Roach, Surety. GARRETT, GARRO

I am desperately trying to connect our little branch to another Uptegrove branch. William G. Uptegrove was my gggrandfather. We do not know what the G. stands for. We know that he was in Horry County, SC in the late 1830's as he bought property there on the Waccamaw River in an area named Peachtree. He married Ann H. from Conwayboro,SC. In the 1840 and 1850 censuses he was in Horry county and in 1860 he was in Georgetown census. That is a neighboring county. He was a mariner. His sons were mariners and pilots as well. He had three children that lived. WIlliam J.L., John Edward, and Sarah Jane. Sarah had a daughter, Sally. John Edward had John Edward, Jr., Alma (He was my grandfather.), Ida, and Mary Lois(Molly). Don't these names look familiar to someone. I saw a William Green Uptegrove Stowe who was born in 1838?. Now I think his mother was an Uptegrove. Could that possibily be a connection. Why would someone name their child that if they were not naming it after someone. Help please! Jane

The book "Thones Kunders and his Children, etc" by Henry Cunreds, "of Whitpain", 1891 states: "The Friends at Germantown built their meeting-house of stone in 1705. It stood in their present graveyard on the street. Thones Kunders contributed [a sum in English money, I think 10 pounds and 11 shillings] toward it... ...his death occurred in 1729, ..., and his remains I presume were laid to rest in the graveyard adjoining the old Friends Meeting at Germanrtown." I suspect that this is correct and that the remains are somewhere on the property of the Germantown Friends Meeting. Gene

There is an Upper Burial Ground and a Lower Burial Ground. Each is independent of the other. Both the Germantown Historical Society and the trustees of the Upper Burial Ground have a list of the contributors to the front wall. Thones Kunders is not listed with the Lower Burial Ground. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Swain" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 7:32 PM Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Re: Upper and Lower Burying Grounds > Hi all, > > At 09:00 PM 9/28/00 -0400, GeneStackhouse wrote: > >Jan Lukens was a original subscriber to the Lower Burial Ground in 1737. He > >is listed in the original record book. Unfortunately, burials were not > >recorded until 1755. > >Jan is probably there but there is no indication as to where. > >The Lower Burial Ground is administered by the Germantown Historical Society > >(GHS) and I am on the Board of Directors of the cemetery as liaison with > >GHS. > > And -- > At 11:02 AM 9/30/00 -0400, Mary <[email protected]> wrote: > >I have pamphlet apparently printed by the Philadelphia Bicentennial > >Commision. It has a large 1776 and 1976 printed on it - Subject > > > > THE BURYING GROUND > > > >In 1692, nine years after the founding of Germantown, the Upper and > >Lower Burying Grounds of Germantown were created by a deed from Paul > >Wulff. Each burying ground had is own Trustees and kept separate > >records. > > > >The Upper Burying Ground Trustees "opened" their record book in 1761. > >Christian Lehman, the noted surveyor and conveyancer copies into the > >book records from various loose documents covering earlier > >transactions. Among these papers were the contributors to the front > >wall which was completed in May 1724. > > > I'm still confused. > It appears there were 2 early burial grounds, Upper and Lower, > each with its own record book, right? > > Is the earliest record of the Upper a list of contributors to the > front wall in 1724? > Does anyone have this list? > Does it include Thones Kunders (Dennis Conrad), who died in 1729? > (Of course if he did contribute to the wall, that is no > guarantee he was buried there; but that would be better > evidence than anything else we seem to have.) > > Is the earliest record for the Lower a list of "original subscribers" > in 1737? > If there are earlier records of any kind for the Lower going back to 1729, > do they mention Thones Kunders? > > Thanks for any enlightenment, > Howard > [email protected] > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > We ***LOVE*** Original Source Material on this List. Please share if > you can, and if you will... > If you wish to place restrictions upon its use, let us know. > > ============================== > Choose from over 19,000 mailing lists at: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/ >

Hi all, At 09:00 PM 9/28/00 -0400, GeneStackhouse wrote: >Jan Lukens was a original subscriber to the Lower Burial Ground in 1737. He >is listed in the original record book. Unfortunately, burials were not >recorded until 1755. >Jan is probably there but there is no indication as to where. >The Lower Burial Ground is administered by the Germantown Historical Society >(GHS) and I am on the Board of Directors of the cemetery as liaison with >GHS. And -- At 11:02 AM 9/30/00 -0400, Mary <[email protected]> wrote: >I have pamphlet apparently printed by the Philadelphia Bicentennial >Commision. It has a large 1776 and 1976 printed on it - Subject > > THE BURYING GROUND > >In 1692, nine years after the founding of Germantown, the Upper and >Lower Burying Grounds of Germantown were created by a deed from Paul >Wulff. Each burying ground had is own Trustees and kept separate >records. > >The Upper Burying Ground Trustees "opened" their record book in 1761. >Christian Lehman, the noted surveyor and conveyancer copies into the >book records from various loose documents covering earlier >transactions. Among these papers were the contributors to the front >wall which was completed in May 1724. I'm still confused. It appears there were 2 early burial grounds, Upper and Lower, each with its own record book, right? Is the earliest record of the Upper a list of contributors to the front wall in 1724? Does anyone have this list? Does it include Thones Kunders (Dennis Conrad), who died in 1729? (Of course if he did contribute to the wall, that is no guarantee he was buried there; but that would be better evidence than anything else we seem to have.) Is the earliest record for the Lower a list of "original subscribers" in 1737? If there are earlier records of any kind for the Lower going back to 1729, do they mention Thones Kunders? Thanks for any enlightenment, Howard [email protected]

I am trying to find the parents of Edward Uptegrove who married Sarah Lewis. Sarah was from DE. On a photocopy of a Rev. War enlistment register in VA the name of Edward appears. He was born @ 1739 in what looks like PA Barracks. I cannot find where this may be. I've tried Carlisle, PA, but they have never heard of it. Eventhough I cannot find a mention of him in DE, I really believe he is the son of Isaac Opdengraeff of Kent Co., DE. I believe he may have been disowned when he joined the Continental Army. Again, I have no proof. Can anyone give me some help? Judy

Mary Deaves, Thank you for typing this pamphlet apparently printed by the Philadelphia Bicentennial Commission. I enjoyed reading this, and found it very interesting. Thank you once again for posting this information for our reading, I hope everyone enjoyed this as much as I did. How did you manage to have this pamphlet? Thank you, Shannon In God's service Freeway

The pamphlet is incorrect. I am in temporary possession of the original record book. Prior to the union of the Germantown Historical Society and the Hood Cemetery, the trustees of the cemetery had the original. Not a facsimile. I am on the board of trustees. The original record book dates from 1835. I have no idea where the idea of the "small pieces of paper" came from. There are no references to any previous records. ----- Original Message ----- From: "R Wayne & Mary L Deaves" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 11:02 AM Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Upper and Lower Burying Grounds > I have pamphlet apparently printed by the Philadelphia Bicentennial > Commision. It has a large 1776 and 1976 printed on it - Subject > > THE BURYING GROUND > > In 1692, nine years after the founding of Germantown, the Upper and > Lower Burying Grounds of Germantown were created by a deed from Paul > Wulff. Each burying ground had is own Trustees and kept separate > records. > > The Upper Burying Ground Trustees "opened" their record book in 1761. > Christian Lehman, the noted surveyor and conveyancer copies into the > book records from various loose documents covering earlier > transactions. Among these papers were the contributors to the front > wall which was completed in May 1724. In 1760, the rest of the burying > ground was enclosed with a stone wall to correspond with the front > wall. At various times these walls were renewed. The record book > contains burials beginning in 1756, although there had been many burials > previous to that time, probably kept on small pieces of paper, which > were lost. A few of the persons buried in the early period had > tombstones and the records from the inscriptions hace been added. But > not everyone had a tompstone. There were over 1300 buriels in this > ground. > > The oldest tombstone is that of Cornelius Teisen (Tyson), who arrived in > 1684 and died in 1716, aged 63. others are those of William Dewees, > Sheriff of Germantown's independant government 1705-6, members of the > Engle, Knorr, Crout and other pioneer families, and also Zachariah > Poulson, who died in 1844, after having published Philadelphia's > principal daily newspaper for many years. > > Germantown's Methuselia is buried there - Adam Shisler, who died in > 1777, and whose tombstone is inscribed - "Aged 969 years:, a > stonecutter's error. > > Indians, who died while encamped near Germantown, were buried on this > ground. (Noted by John F. watson, author of Watson's Annuals of > Philadelphia) > > Though the record book, ( a facsimile of which is in the possession of > the present Trustees) Makes no mention of the Battle of Germantown, > October 4, 1777, it is know that three officers of the Contential Army > and five privates, killed in the fighting nearby, were buried in the > east corner. Watson erected a stone bearing the names of the three > officers. They were: > > Lt. Col. Henry Irwin - 5th North Carolina Regiment > Capt. Jacob Turner - 3rd North Carolina Regiment 1st Lt. Thomas Lucas > - Adjutant of the 11th Penna. Regiment. > > In addition, 48 known soldiers of the Revolutionary War, of Germantown, > who died in the years following the war, rest here, as well as 11 > soldiers of the War of 1812, and one Mexican War soldier. Bronze > tablets, honoring these soldiers, have been placed on the wall of the > burying ground, by Germantown Chapter, Daughterss of the American > revolution and the Stephen Decatur Chapter, Daughters of 1812. > > In the 18th and 19th centuries, owners of "burial rights", which was > obtainable for a small payment, would meet annually and elect three > overseers and a grave digger. The last burial in the Upper burying > Ground was in 1907, the ground being full. As the overseers (Trustees) > died, none were elected to fill the vacancies. The last surviving > overseer of the Upper Burying Ground died in 1943, leaving the ground > without supervision until 1945, when by authorization of the Court, > these two historic landmarks of Germantown: > THE CONCORD SCHOOL HOUSE, built 1775 > and > THE UPPER BURYING GROUND OF GERMANTOWN, established 1692, situated > on Germantown Avenue, above Washington Lane, were placed under the > jurisdiction of one Board of Trustees. > > The Concord School House and Upper Burying Ground of Germantown are > part of the Coloniel Germantown Historic District, The United States > Government of the Interior, National Park Service, has designated > Germantown Avenue, between Apsley and Phil-Ellena Streets, as a > Registered National Historic Landmark, the only street in America > carrying this distinction.. > > My husbands ancestors, Isaac Deaves and his wife Martha Cock Deaves > are buried in the Upper Burying Ground, both dying in 1750. > > Enjoy, > Mary Deaves > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Please write simple Thank You's to anyone who helps you. 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Subject: [PHILLY-ROOTS-L] LUKENS Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 05:19:35 -0700 Resent-From: [email protected] Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 08:19:25 EDT From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Philip, of Upper Dublin, left a Will, RW 1749, Book 3, p. 469. No wife is given & the property is divided into 9 equal shares. Will dated 23 Aug 1811 & proved 31 Mar 1813. Henry SHEETZ was the executor. Witnesses: Abraham LUKENS & Catherine HOCKER. Gerre Engard Byrd

I have pamphlet apparently printed by the Philadelphia Bicentennial Commision. It has a large 1776 and 1976 printed on it - Subject THE BURYING GROUND In 1692, nine years after the founding of Germantown, the Upper and Lower Burying Grounds of Germantown were created by a deed from Paul Wulff. Each burying ground had is own Trustees and kept separate records. The Upper Burying Ground Trustees "opened" their record book in 1761. Christian Lehman, the noted surveyor and conveyancer copies into the book records from various loose documents covering earlier transactions. Among these papers were the contributors to the front wall which was completed in May 1724. In 1760, the rest of the burying ground was enclosed with a stone wall to correspond with the front wall. At various times these walls were renewed. The record book contains burials beginning in 1756, although there had been many burials previous to that time, probably kept on small pieces of paper, which were lost. A few of the persons buried in the early period had tombstones and the records from the inscriptions hace been added. But not everyone had a tompstone. There were over 1300 buriels in this ground. The oldest tombstone is that of Cornelius Teisen (Tyson), who arrived in 1684 and died in 1716, aged 63. others are those of William Dewees, Sheriff of Germantown's independant government 1705-6, members of the Engle, Knorr, Crout and other pioneer families, and also Zachariah Poulson, who died in 1844, after having published Philadelphia's principal daily newspaper for many years. Germantown's Methuselia is buried there - Adam Shisler, who died in 1777, and whose tombstone is inscribed - "Aged 969 years:, a stonecutter's error. Indians, who died while encamped near Germantown, were buried on this ground. (Noted by John F. watson, author of Watson's Annuals of Philadelphia) Though the record book, ( a facsimile of which is in the possession of the present Trustees) Makes no mention of the Battle of Germantown, October 4, 1777, it is know that three officers of the Contential Army and five privates, killed in the fighting nearby, were buried in the east corner. Watson erected a stone bearing the names of the three officers. They were: Lt. Col. Henry Irwin - 5th North Carolina Regiment Capt. Jacob Turner - 3rd North Carolina Regiment 1st Lt. Thomas Lucas - Adjutant of the 11th Penna. Regiment. In addition, 48 known soldiers of the Revolutionary War, of Germantown, who died in the years following the war, rest here, as well as 11 soldiers of the War of 1812, and one Mexican War soldier. Bronze tablets, honoring these soldiers, have been placed on the wall of the burying ground, by Germantown Chapter, Daughterss of the American revolution and the Stephen Decatur Chapter, Daughters of 1812. In the 18th and 19th centuries, owners of "burial rights", which was obtainable for a small payment, would meet annually and elect three overseers and a grave digger. The last burial in the Upper burying Ground was in 1907, the ground being full. As the overseers (Trustees) died, none were elected to fill the vacancies. The last surviving overseer of the Upper Burying Ground died in 1943, leaving the ground without supervision until 1945, when by authorization of the Court, these two historic landmarks of Germantown: THE CONCORD SCHOOL HOUSE, built 1775 and THE UPPER BURYING GROUND OF GERMANTOWN, established 1692, situated on Germantown Avenue, above Washington Lane, were placed under the jurisdiction of one Board of Trustees. The Concord School House and Upper Burying Ground of Germantown are part of the Coloniel Germantown Historic District, The United States Government of the Interior, National Park Service, has designated Germantown Avenue, between Apsley and Phil-Ellena Streets, as a Registered National Historic Landmark, the only street in America carrying this distinction.. My husbands ancestors, Isaac Deaves and his wife Martha Cock Deaves are buried in the Upper Burying Ground, both dying in 1750. Enjoy, Mary Deaves

Ya'll where Real good for a Much needed laugh today.. Looking forward to Hearing about the Burial Grounds of upper and lower.. But it was still custom ( I have death date 1741?) But like I first said, the only thing I have ever Read on him, went about the same as Hance.. They where buried in Unmarked graves as was Traditon, and for Hance.. Hance Supplee in 1770 gave a plot of land from his farm and built theron a meeting house which is now known as the Bethel Meeting House. He also donated an adjoining lot for a cemetery, which is named the Bethel cemetery. Strange to relate, Hance Supplee's remains were the first to be buried in the grounds he donated. He died December 16, 1770, aged fifty-six years and five months. His widow, Magdaline, resided at the homestead place the remainder of her life, and died October 5, 1801, aged eighty-five years. Like she said, we will never know without a Dousher? Spell check, and DNA testing where he would be for sure.. but keep going on the Upper and Lower burial grounds, that is Of great Interest!.. Thrills!~ Cali Cali's German PA, Genealogy http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Falls/3610 I will be putting an updated page at rootsweb soon..There are some errors in the first page I need to remove, or fix.. Thanks,Cali {{{HUGS}}}} ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Originators and cousins- I suppose we have beaten this burial subject to death (!) but as one of Jan's progeny I wonder how we know the date of his death? Was it recorded in a particular meeting record or a Bible or what? (If I am supposed to know this answer already I am sorry). That would be a possible lead in this search. I also had the thought occur to me that maybe old Jan is not buried anywhere! Maybe he was swept up in a tornado, or his little canoe washed out to sea, or he went hunting one day and was never seen again.... My serious point is while it is very worth asking the question, we are likely never to know. ;-( Charlotte

Custard is a variation of Custer-Kuster-Caster, etc. -----Original Message----- From: Vincent E. Summers [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 11:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Custard Does anyone show this name, and can help the individual below? If this is one of those descendant names of the 13, please feel free to invite the person to join us. Vince ________________________________________________________________ Subject: Howells Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 06:23:32 -0700 Resent-From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:23:07 EDT From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Hi Does anyone have information on Jed Howells born nov. 28, 1889 married Edna M. Custard May on 12, 1911 They lived in Plains , Luzerne County, Pa. Thank You Mark Cragle Florida ==== PALUZERN Mailing List ==== Northeast Pennsylvania Chat can be accessed at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paluzern/chat.htm ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== LaVere LUKENS has about 14 stamps of the Concord still available to any one who wants one. They are not expensive. Contact him if you want one, at: [email protected] This offer will be withdrawn at his notice. ============================== RootsWeb's guide to tracing family trees: http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/

Does anyone show this name, and can help the individual below? If this is one of those descendant names of the 13, please feel free to invite the person to join us. Vince ________________________________________________________________ Subject: Howells Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 06:23:32 -0700 Resent-From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:23:07 EDT From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Hi Does anyone have information on Jed Howells born nov. 28, 1889 married Edna M. Custard May on 12, 1911 They lived in Plains , Luzerne County, Pa. Thank You Mark Cragle Florida ==== PALUZERN Mailing List ==== Northeast Pennsylvania Chat can be accessed at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paluzern/chat.htm

I believe that the Germantown Friends Burial Ground was established after Jan Lukens died.

Gene, what relationship, if any, did the Lower Germantown Burying Ground have with the Friends one? Was the latter only Quakers? Thones Kunders died in 1729 and is likely in the Quaker one. I had never heard of the 1737 date as a beginning, so thank you for that, Gene. Can you talk about the two, and were they about the only ones in use from c1700 to say, 1750, besides burials on farms? I will now sit down and let you enlighten, please. Thanks, Erik Conard

Jan Luken's homestead is long gone. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 9:33 PM Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Re: Luckens > > I have a story that both He and Hance Supplee are both burried, in their > Homesteads, in Unmarked graves... Can't verify it , but have read it many > times > > > > > Cali's German PA, Genealogy > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Falls/3610 > > I will be putting an updated page at rootsweb soon..There are some errors > in the first > page I need to remove, or fix.. Thanks,Cali {{{HUGS}}}} > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Please write simple Thank You's to anyone who helps you. It's not > even bad to say You're Welcome, either! > Also, from me to you, THANK YOU for being such a great group! -- VES. > > ============================== > RootsWeb's guide to tracing family trees: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/ >

Jan Lukens was a subscriber to the Lower Burial Ground in 1737. This is from the original record book. At present, I have the book and I am hiding it. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [ORIGINAL-13] Jan Lukens burial--Gtn. Friends? > Seems to me that Jan Lukens would likely be buried at the old Germantown > Friends > Burying Ground. There is a typed manuscript titled "An Account of Burials at > Friends Burying Ground Since the Beginning of the Year 1747." I have always > supposed Thones Kunders, his wife, most of his children, were there along > with a > goodly number of the early Germantown pioneers. But I have never been able to > find > any record prior to 1747. Earlier chroniclers, such as Henry Clay Conrad, et > al., have cited (erroneously) the Haddonfield (NJ) Friends as a burial place. > We have long rejected this, but have had no other place to substitute. > However, it does seem > logical and I have not seen any other burial records prior to 1747. This > does not answer the question as to where the senior Lukens lies, but it > appears to be the most likely . It is doubtful that we will find any other > record...unless Gene has it > and is hiding it from Dora. Regards, Erik P. Conard--Denver > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > Transcribe Graves, Lookup Data Online, Lookup Data in Publications > Visit Historical Societies, Go to Libraries and FHC Centers, Take Photos > of Appropriate Houses, Stones, Highway Markers, etc. We will love it! > > ============================== > http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews > FREE newsletter on the current events and topics important to today's > family historian. >

Jan Lukens was a original subscriber to the Lower Burial Ground in 1737. He is listed in the original record book. Unfortunately, burials were not recorded until 1755. Jan is probably there but there is no indication as to where. The Lower Burial Ground is administered by the Germantown Historical Society (GHS) and I am on the Board of Directors of the cemetery as liaison with GHS. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Caton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 6:38 PM Subject: [ORIGINAL-13] Jan Lukens burial > The only reference I saw to his burial was in the letters of Herman T > Lukens. His letters are on LDS Tape #1420725. My notes say > QUOTE > Lukens Genealogy was being complied in 1937 by Herman T Lukens - letters > of his on microfilm LDS TAPE 1420725 "Jan Lückens built house on "Grange > Farm" where present shops on the No Broad St subway are located - Grange > Ave & 11th St. Asks if he was buried at Abington. > UNQUOTE > > I pass it on as it's interesting about the house, and I found it while > digging for what I had on a burial place. > > To Gene S > > I thought that I looked at the microfilm transcription of the Lower > Burial Ground in Germantown and couldn't find anything as early as Jan. > Does that just mean that they were worn away when the transcription was > done? Did anyone record the location or is the Lower Burial Ground just > the usual for the times? > > Thanks, > Nancy Caton > > > ==== ORIGINAL-13 Mailing List ==== > LaVere LUKENS has about 14 stamps of the Concord still available to any > one who wants one. They are not expensive. Contact him if you want > one, at: [email protected] This offer will be withdrawn at his notice. > > ============================== > Choose from over 19,000 mailing lists at: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/ >

Seems to me that Jan Lukens would likely be buried at the old Germantown Friends Burying Ground. There is a typed manuscript titled "An Account of Burials at Friends Burying Ground Since the Beginning of the Year 1747." I have always supposed Thones Kunders, his wife, most of his children, were there along with a goodly number of the early Germantown pioneers. But I have never been able to find any record prior to 1747. Earlier chroniclers, such as Henry Clay Conrad, et al., have cited (erroneously) the Haddonfield (NJ) Friends as a burial place. We have long rejected this, but have had no other place to substitute. However, it does seem logical and I have not seen any other burial records prior to 1747. This does not answer the question as to where the senior Lukens lies, but it appears to be the most likely . It is doubtful that we will find any other record...unless Gene has it and is hiding it from Dora. Regards, Erik P. Conard--Denver