Hi Judith, I am very knowledgeable on the Portland street address changes and have used the street change address book a the main Portland library to figure the current address of several homes that had adresses from the old address system. Knowing about that has made me wonder if Salem ever did that street address change thing too like Portland did. I have never heard one way or the other on that and wondered if maybe Salem never did and has always had the same steet addresses. A message was just put on the Orforum list by Addie Rickey who has done a lot of work on the Salem Pioneer Cemetery in Salem. She is a pretty smart cookie and she might know about this Salem street address business. I will ask her. I had not heard of the Sanborn Fire Insurance maps. I will check into that. I have already gotten a few pages copied from Salem City Directories. Those are good too since they tell addresses year by year. Nathan --- Judith Rees <[email protected]> wrote: > Even though it is an "old" address, there should be > Sanborn Fire > Insurance maps for Salem that will list the old > address and show you the > outline of the building and indicate if it is a > boarding house. Another > way to cross-check this information would be through > the City > Directories for Salem. In Portland, there is a > guide which tells you > the correlation between old and new addresses. I > would assume that it > is also true for Salem. The addresses in Portland > were changed in the > early 1930's. Let me know if any of this does not > make sense to you. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nathan Haines Sr. [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 12:54 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [GFO] school newspaper > > Maggie, > This family you found in Salem is my Great > Granduncle Thomas Peter Burt and his family. That is > the right one alright. That 1900 census entry on > this > page is really a mess for this family. I wonder how > this families details got so messed up on this > census? > Mary Burt, Thomas' wife, was not born in > Florida! > She was born here in Oregon just a couple weeks > AFTER > the 1860 census was taken. They listed Mary's only > daughter, Elva, as a son! The son born 1889 was > named > Vane Burt. He is buried in Gresham. The youngest > son, > Cecil, was listed as "Baby". He was a year and a > half > old in 1900 and they listed him as "Baby"?! You > would > think that after a year and half they would have > thought of a name for him, don't you think?! I am > just > kidding actually. Whoever gave this info to the > census > taker may have been a neighbor or something and did > not know the name of the youngest child?? The > daughter-in-law on the next page that you found was > the oldest son, Arthur's, wife. Her name was Fairy > Burt actually. There were a lot of names in those > days > that had a male and a female version to the name. > For > instance, FAIRY was the girl's version and FERRY was > the male version of the same name. Another of many > examples would be MARION was a male name and MARIAN > was given as the female version of that name. Her > maiden name was McDaniels. Fairy's mother was a > Chamness. The Chamness family came from Silverton > area. Fairy died very young. > There is something you brought to my attention > that I had not even noticed before. I am really > surprised that I had not heard anyone mention this > before or noticed it myself. The address of the > families is listed on the left side of the page. > Wow! > Interesting. Half the people on the next page are > listed at the same address also. I have to presume > this must have been some type of boarding house or > something, don't you think? I have trouble > imagining > the 31 people all listed at 55 13th St as all > sharing > the same house! > It does not indicate S or N or what part of Salem > this > 13th St was in. There is a NE and a SE 13th St in > Salem on my Salem map. That is right by Willamette > Univ., just a few blocks from the State Capitol > building. Chances are this building from 1900 is no > longer there and was torn down years ago? > Anyway, thanks Maggie. That was nice of you to > mention this. > Nathan Haines > > --- Maggie <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Roy, > > > > Have you looked at the 1900 US Census for this > > family? > > It is available online, free at Heritage Quest > with > > a Multnomah county library card. > > > > This is the short version. > > > > Oregon, Marion County, Salem (city), Precinct > > #4, census taken on 26 June 1900. > > Census page 5, stamped page 146! (and B) > > House address 55 13th St., Salem. There are > > two families in this house. > > > > Gustave and Martha Roberts (ages 28 and 23) > > Thomas Burt age 49, b. Sept. 1850, Scotland > > Mary (wife) age 39 b. Sept 1860, Florida > > Arthur (son) age 21 b. Oct 1878, Oregon > > Elva (son) age 19 b. April 1881, Oregon > > Roy (son) age 17 b. April 1883, Oregon > > Angus (son) age 14 b. June 1886 > > Wallace (son) age 12 b. April 1888 > > Vasie [?] (son) age 10 b. July 1889 > > Baby (son) b. July 1898 [?] > > and, on the next page, same family > > Terry (daughter-in-law) age 20, b. Aug 1879 > > > > Please note, all but wife and daughter-in-law > > are listed as male. > > > > Also in Marion County, Oregon are > > Arthur Burt, age 22 in Yew Park Precinct, > born > > unknown > > Luther A Burt, age 30, 4th Ward, Salem born > > Iowa > > Taylor E Burt, age 51 in 2nd Ward, Salem born > > Pennsylvania > > I have not checked for spouses or children living > > with these three people > > > > Maggie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Nathan Haines Sr." <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 12:14 AM > > Subject: Re: [GFO] school newspaper > > > > > > > Hi Mim, > > > My Great Granduncle Thomas Peter Burt and his > > > family lived in Salem in 1900. I am not sure > which > > > High School his kids went to? Could you check > your > > > picture to see if there are any kids with the > last > > > name of Burt? Roy Burt was 17 in 1900 and Angus > > Burt > > > was 14. They had a sister Elva Burt who would > have > > > been 19 in 1900. > > > Thanks, > > > Nathan > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > --- Mim Aline <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> I have a copy of the Salem High School > "Clarion" > > >> newspaper, October 7, 1915. (Vol. XIII, No. 1) > > > >> Where would be the best place to donate this? > > >> > > >> I also have a photograph of the 1900 graduating > > >> class and a list of names that may or may not > go > > >> with the photo. 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