Matt and Mattie in our family was Martha. Patsy was another great-grandma's baby girl who died...I thought....until I got his death certificate and changed his name to Patrick and his sex to male. Daddy was Irish and that is a common diminutive for both Patrick and Patricia by the Irish. I spent the weekend looking for Bridget or Briget Henderhin... or Handerhin... or Handerhan, Henderhon, etc....any combinations of vowels you can possibly think of. And that's not considering the Handrahuns , etc., ect. I even tried looking up the family by finding her children but every time Bridget married the children's name surname changed. One man divorced her and left with their older child and she changed the baby's name back to her previous husband's name. Then she evidently remarried and the children took on that father's name. Aaarrghhhhh!!! Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura G." <[email protected]> > And if I may add to your message, Dave, I don't feel it is wrong to remind > even seasoned researchers about mis-naming persons. My husband' father > and two brothers were listed as females in on census - Matthew, Francis, > and Joseph were Mattie, Frances, and Josephine DUNWALTZ for DUNWALD. > > Laura Dunwald