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    1. Re: [GFO] Cemetery question
    2. Janice M. Healy
    3. > Hi, > Has anyone ever heard of a cemetery called the >Macksburg Cemetery? > I went out to Canby today and got an obit for a >cousin who died in 1931 and the obit said he was then >buried in the Macksburg Cemetery. The funeral was held >at the Macksburg Luthern Church it said. > I asked all kinds of people in and around Canby >and Macksburg and nobody but nobody has ever heard of >any Macksburg Cemetery. > One old timer from the area said there is only one >cemetery in Macksburg Well Nathan we didn't list it because we have never ran across a reference to a Macksburg Cemetery, So any info you come up with on it please forward it to me. I hope to post on the web site in a few months the little bit of new info that has come in for every one. Also there is a possibility that the Macksburg Cemetery was in connection with the old church, where was it and is there anything left there? A lot of old church's had small burial grounds, once the church folds, is torn down etc. the cemeteries have a habit of disappearing under the black berries and brush. > and I found out that it is named >the Klinger Memorial Cemetery. I finally found that >tiny cemetery out there in the woods and it only has a >handfull of gravestones. According to The Oregon >Burial Site Guide that cemetery was never called the >Macksburg Cemetery so I am not sure if that is the >right cemetery or not. It MIGHT be and my Gelbrich's >who I am looking for the grave for may be there and >not have any gravestone?? Very possible that there is not one as out in Clackamas County they used a lot of wooden head boards and of course most of them are all gone now. Also in 1931 remember that was the great depression and most folks didn't have any money for monuments. > I also found out from a local in the area that the >Gelbrich family's first home which is over a hundred >years old is still out there and is only about a half >mile from the Klinger Memorial Cemetery. You have most likely found the right cemetery, though the only known graves are for the following: Willard Lewis Klingler Erma Rose Klingler Willard Lewis Klingler, Jr. Infant Son of F. C. Klingler William T. Son of Jl & Ma Klingler Infant son of J & M Klingler John Klingler Mary A Smith John H. Smith A Can't Read and unmarked Caroline Gieptner George F Dworschak Clara E Dworschak Baby no name L Joyce Wolfer The above came from a web page someone put up back in 2001 The following is from a very old 1936-1937 DAR reading Christine Kister John Peter Kister John Klingler William T. Klingler Caroline Gieptner Mutter [Nathan this is probably German for Mother] John H. Smith Lily R. Smith Mary A. Smith William G. Walch Caroline W. Walch Joyce L. Wolfer Nathan remember these are just the known burials, DAR usually read the stones/markers if there were any but if not they would not have listed them most likely. Deaths range from 1859-1997 in these lists, none are listed for the 1930's but that doesn't mean there were none. If any one needs dates for these folks yes I do have them but it is late and I was on my way to bed when this came in so please feel free to e-mail me for them and I will fill them in tomorrow. Janice Janice M. Healy Co-compiler of "Oregon Burial Site Guide" Aloha, Oregon U.S.A. Mailto:[email protected] "Oregon Burial Site Guide" http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/obsg.html Plan ahead for the following conferences: NGS Conference 1-4 June 2005, Nashville Tennessee FGS Conference 9-10 Sept 2005, Salt Lake City Public service site http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ancestors.html

    03/26/2005 04:57:18
    1. Re: [GFO] Cemetery question
    2. Nathan Haines Sr.
    3. Janice, I thought you might have some wonderful advice and you did. Thanks. The idea of this cemetery being right by the church is most likely a very good possibility. I am really sorry I did not think of that myself sooner. It is more then likely probably hidden from view and most people do not even know about it? I was figuring that if I found it that I would make sure and give you all the info on it that I could for your records. You have done such a fabulous, marvelous job on cemetery research for the whole state of Oregon. I know exactly where that Macksburg Church is and was right by it today. I will try and contact that church to see if they might have any idea where this cemetery went to. I remember seeing every one of the people you mentioned in your list for Klinger Memorial Cemetery on the stones in that cemetery today. I do not need any dates on them. I know well that they could be there with no stone. Not only could it be that they may not have been able to afford a decent one during that depression time. It is very likely there could have been a lot of stones destroyed by vandals many long years ago and the Gelbrich�s stone could have been one of them and was never replaced. Maybe even someone at the Canby Funeral home may have heard of this Macksburg Cemetery and have some knowledge on its' whereabouts. I will contact them too and give that a try. I will gladly give you a copy of this obit sometime if you are interested that states Mr Gelbrich was buried in that cemetery. I need to go get his death certificate and check that to see just what cemetery that lists him in to make sure that says Macksburg Cemetery also. You also mentioned about wooden grave markers. I know of one that still exists! It is in a cemetery out in McMinnville. I could hardly believe my eyes when I saw it! It is extremely old and it looks like someone has put some sort of preservative on it to help make it last longer. The names have long ago worn off so I have no idea who is buried there. I am wondering also if there isn't someone in the Clackamas County Offices that is in charge of Cemetery business. Maybe they do not have records that date back a long way on what cemeteries used to be named; maybe they only keep up with current names of cemeteries? There must be some old records of some kind that might shed some light on this. I know the Oregon Citry Library has some pretty old Ore City Directories and the Ore City Directory covered a lot of territory like Canby and a lot of other outlying areas and I think Macksburg too. Maybe there is a listing in there for the Macksburg Cemetery with an address to go with it to boot?! Wouldn't that be a help? I know of one other cemetery that is not in your Burial Site Guide. It is simply called The Lutheran Cemetery. I have yet to go out there and see it. I have been told about it and know where it is and a cousin of mine has gone there. I do not know if you know where the corner of Bremer Rd and Central Point Rd is? It is way out in the country a couple two or three miles North East of Canby where it is called the New Era area. There used to be an old Lutheran Church by that corner which has long ago been torn down which had a small cemetery by it. The teeny cemetery is supposed to be by a nursery now that is there. I am going to get out there one day soon and take pictures of that cemetery. My Grandparents, my mother's parents, the Dietz's lived out there and went to that little Lutheran Church and their first child which died as an infant is believed to have been buried there but has no marker. This is another tiny cemetery that you should add to your records. I could gladly give you some pictures of this little cemetery when I take them if you are interested. Nathan --- "Janice M. Healy" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Has anyone ever heard of a cemetery called the > >Macksburg Cemetery? > > I went out to Canby today and got an obit for > a > >cousin who died in 1931 and the obit said he was > then > >buried in the Macksburg Cemetery. The funeral was > held > >at the Macksburg Luthern Church it said. > > I asked all kinds of people in and around > Canby > >and Macksburg and nobody but nobody has ever heard > of > >any Macksburg Cemetery. > > One old timer from the area said there is only > one > >cemetery in Macksburg > > Well Nathan we didn't list it because we have never > ran across a > reference to a Macksburg Cemetery, So any info you > come up with on it > please forward it to me. I hope to post on the web > site in a few > months the little bit of new info that has come in > for every one. > Also there is a possibility that the Macksburg > Cemetery was in > connection with the old church, where was it and is > there anything > left there? A lot of old church's had small burial > grounds, once the > church folds, is torn down etc. the cemeteries have > a habit of > disappearing under the black berries and brush. > > > and I found out that it is named > >the Klinger Memorial Cemetery. I finally found that > >tiny cemetery out there in the woods and it only > has a > >handfull of gravestones. According to The Oregon > >Burial Site Guide that cemetery was never called > the > >Macksburg Cemetery so I am not sure if that is the > >right cemetery or not. It MIGHT be and my > Gelbrich's > >who I am looking for the grave for may be there and > >not have any gravestone?? > > Very possible that there is not one as out in > Clackamas County they > used a lot of wooden head boards and of course most > of them are all > gone now. Also in 1931 remember that was the great > depression and > most folks didn't have any money for monuments. > > > I also found out from a local in the area that > the > >Gelbrich family's first home which is over a > hundred > >years old is still out there and is only about a > half > >mile from the Klinger Memorial Cemetery. > > You have most likely found the right cemetery, > though the only known > graves are for the following: > Willard Lewis Klingler > Erma Rose Klingler > Willard Lewis Klingler, Jr. > Infant Son of F. C. Klingler > William T. Son of Jl & Ma Klingler > Infant son of J & M Klingler > John Klingler > Mary A Smith > John H. Smith > A Can't Read > and unmarked > Caroline Gieptner > George F Dworschak > Clara E Dworschak > Baby no name > L Joyce Wolfer > > The above came from a web page someone put up back > in 2001 > > The following is from a very old 1936-1937 DAR > reading > Christine Kister > John Peter Kister > John Klingler > William T. Klingler > Caroline Gieptner Mutter [Nathan this is probably > German for Mother] > John H. Smith > Lily R. Smith > Mary A. Smith > William G. Walch > Caroline W. Walch > Joyce L. Wolfer > > Nathan remember these are just the known burials, > DAR usually read > the stones/markers if there were any but if not they > would not have > listed them most likely. Deaths range from 1859-1997 > in these lists, > none are listed for the 1930's but that doesn't mean > there were none. > > If any one needs dates for these folks yes I do have > them but it is > late and I was on my way to bed when this came in so > please feel free > to e-mail me for them and I will fill them in > tomorrow. > > Janice > > > > Janice M. Healy > Co-compiler of "Oregon Burial Site Guide" > > Aloha, Oregon U.S.A. > Mailto:[email protected] > > "Oregon Burial Site Guide" > http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/obsg.html > Plan ahead for the following conferences: > NGS Conference 1-4 June 2005, Nashville > Tennessee > FGS Conference 9-10 Sept 2005, Salt Lake City > > Public service site > http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ancestors.html > > > > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a message to > [email protected] that > contains (in the body of the message) only the > single word: unsubscribe > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search > not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

    03/26/2005 07:08:02