In yesterdays Oregonian was the Obit for Jay Balfour for those that didn't know the Balfour's Sue and Jay were very active in the GFO. Ruth wrote to me: They are/were the geniuses behind the Bulletin. From mimeo to Linda to Doris, they fixed all my mistakes. Sue even corrected the mimeo. The proof-reading of mimeo was impossible for me because of the smell. Jay did all the printing even when he had so much leg problems. I might have been one of the few who knew. Ruth Bishop Judy sent me this info for those that haven't found it yet: Jay and Sue were stalwarts of the Forum in the 70s and on when they were the printers of the Bulletin. Both great people, I will miss Jay. Mountain View Cemetery is located at 1113 Caveness Drive, Centrailia, Washington. 11 AM graveside service, Monday Nov 7. Judy Goldmann

Hi everyone, For anyone who has not heard yet that likes the Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness web site, it is off line and will not be back unless someone else takes it over I guess. That is really too bad. If you Google Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness you will find a story amongst the hits that come up about it shutting down. They site computer problems and health issues, of the founder of the web site. Nathan

_hannah@teleport.com_ (mailto:hannah@teleport.com) writes: Wow, Jan! What a great job of figuring out where to look. And even more so of describing your thought processes, what you found, how you interpreted it, and where you could see you could look next for more and/or confirming information. I was VERY impressed with what you accomplished! Kristy (How odd that it happened at all that the names were not added. Don¹t you wonder what caused that error? I do.) We were very impressed too. It is so nice when people share these sort of things. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORFORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Amatos and Grand Central were bowling alleys both in S.E.Grand Central still open. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: II Keller <kelleri00@hotmail.com> To: orforum@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:48:16 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [GFO] Honor Rollers in Oregonian 1960s What was the Honor Rollers in the Oregonian in 1960s? I found Glenn Hansen in the Honor Rollers column: on Mar. 3, 1961 AMATO's - Amotatoestes: Norma Bartows, 516; Railroad: Glenn Hansen, 575..... on Feb 25, 1964 GRAND CENTRAL....Esco Swing: Glenn Hansen, 538... Thank you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORFORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wow, Jan! What a great job of figuring out where to look. And even more so of describing your thought processes, what you found, how you interpreted it, and where you could see you could look next for more and/or confirming information. I was VERY impressed with what you accomplished! Kristy (How odd that it happened at all that the names were not added. Don¹t you wonder what caused that error? I do.)

I'm sure this did refer to bowling. Amato's was a restaurant/bowling alley at 1101 SE 12th and Grand Central Bowl was at 808 SE Belmont, both in Portland. It appears the people who had a 500 plus series are being honored showing the place where they bowled and what team they were on. Bonnie -----Original Message----- From: orforum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:orforum-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Sam Butler Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 3:08 PM To: II Keller; orforum@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GFO] Honor Rollers in Oregonian 1960s Sounds like bowlers - that would be my guess.    The Oregonian used to report a lot of minor league, or should I say company teams competing against other businesses.   Sam Butler ________________________________ From: II Keller <kelleri00@hotmail.com> To: orforum@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 2:48 PM Subject: [GFO] Honor Rollers in Oregonian 1960s What was the Honor Rollers in the Oregonian in 1960s? I found Glenn Hansen in the Honor Rollers column: on Mar. 3, 1961          AMATO's - Amotatoestes: Norma Bartows, 516; Railroad: Glenn Hansen, 575..... on Feb 25, 1964      GRAND CENTRAL....Esco Swing: Glenn Hansen, 538... Thank you.                           ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORFORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORFORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jan...that was great info. You are a good sleuth. I am sure your process will come in handy for many people. Thank you for posting this. Paulina In a message dated 11/3/2011 12:27:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jfent@hevanet.com writes: Hello GFO, I dropped by GFO on Sunday to do some research. Although I didn't find what I was looking for, I became intrigued by something I heard Marie say to Eileen. Marie is a volunteer on the project to create an index of the names of the brides and grooms found in the Multnomah County Marriage Record books. She was working in the Marriage Record book #32, for the period of 1912, and said she had just found a record that didn't have the name of either the bride or the groom. This raised two questions. First, how do we find the missing names? And second, if we find the names, do we list them in the index project even though they were not in this marriage record? I went to look at the record Marie was talking about. All the other information about the marriage was filled in. It had the license number and date, the date and place of the marriage, the marriage was performed by a Catholic Priest, and his name was listed. The marriage was performed at "St Johns Pars." on 26 September 1912. It listed the groom as living in Clackamas County and the bride as living in Multnomah County. The names of the two witnesses were listed, the date the record was filed with the county, and the names of the County Clerk and the Deputy. But, the names of the bride and groom were not on the record. GFO has more than one type of original book, from Multnomah County, giving information on the County marriages. 1) Marriage License Index with an alphabetical index. These books list names from A-Z, for specific time periods. In 1912, each line shows the name of the bride and groom, and gives the book number and page where they are found in the Marriage Record book. 2) Marriage Affidavits book. This book shows someone who says they know one of the persons getting married, usually the bride, names of both the bride and groom, gives the ages of the the couple, or an approximate age, and usually states there is "no legal impediment to the marriage." In Multnomah County, this book is listed in order by the License number. 3) The Marriage Record book. This is where information was posted when the information was returned to the County Clerk to show the marriage had taken place, and gave all the information needed to complete the record on the county books. (This was the book Marie was using for the index she was doing, and it had the marriages listed in order of the License Number..) 4) Marriage Affidavits and Marriage Records. In later years, the Marriage Affidavits and Marriage Records are combined in one book, on the same page, for each marriage. One of the ways to find the names of the bride and groom would be to look at the Marriage License Index, from A - Z, for the name of a bride or groom, showing the book and page number you needed in the Marriage Record book. You would have to eliminate the names already listed on that page. Although this is one way, it would be very time consuming. Using the GFO collection of available marriage records, there is an easier and faster way to find the names of the bride and groom. The marriage record Marie found had the the Marriage License number 23836 stamped the record. These numbers are listed in order on the pages. The record above was 23835 and the one below was 23837. The Marriage Affidavits book also lists the marriages in order by the Marriage License number. Knowing this, I went to the Affidavits book for the date range needed, September 1912, looked for the page with License #23836, and found the names of the bride and groom within just a few minutes. The name of the bride was Lillian HUGHES, and the name of the groom was M. J. CONLEY. Another error was found in the Affidavits record. Although it listed the record book number as 32, the page number was listed as 328, not 228. Looking at page 328 would not give the researcher the information they wanted. Since the License numbers were listed in numerical order, the page of 328 on this Affidavit for the CONLEY and HUGHES record could not have been correct. It was 100 pages too high. The book and page number above and below the one for HUGHES and CONLEY had the correct book 32 and page 228, and since the license numbers are listed numerically, page 228 is correct. The next thing I wanted to find was this marriage listed in the Marriage License Index, and it is a good thing I took the time to look. The groom's name was listed as Martin J. CONLEY. This gave me the first name of the groom, making it easier for a family researcher to locate this couple in additional records, such as census, city directory, newspaper, land, etc. This Index gave the correct book and page number for the Marriage Record book. Multnomah County Marriage Record book 32, page 228. Multnomah County Marriage Affidavits book 17, page 79. Multnomah County Marriage License Index, A - K, July 1910 - Oct. 1915, page 165 for CONLEY, and page 384 for HUGHES. Each of these record books can provide additional parts of the marriage information, and it is sometimes wise to consult all of them, for any different pieces they may have of your relative. Additional information about the Catholic priest. The name on the Marriage Record under "Witness my hand," showed the following: "A. Hillebrand Dean, St John's Church." The Marriage Affidavit didn't have "Dean" after Hillebrand, but only listed "Married by A. Hillebrand." Therefore, could this priest have been the "Dean" of a school attached to the church? I went to Ancestry for the 1910 Oregon Census and found a listing in Oregon City, Clackamas County, for an Anthony HILLEBRAND, a Catholic clergyman, age 51, born in Germany. The address was 912 Water St., between entries of names listed on 9th and 10th streets. There are more than one Catholic church in our area with the name St. John's. I went to the internet and Googled this name. One church of interest was the St. John The Apostle Catholic Church, in Oregon City, Oregon. The church history showed it was active since 1846 and had moved from its original location of 10th and Water streets to its present location at 4th and Center in Oregon City. There was a Parish Church, a School and Administration offices. 1910 Census, Oregon City, Clackamas County, Oregon, E.D. 43, Sheet 10A, line 26, Address 912 Water St., Dwelling 206, Family 212, date 23-25 April. HILLEBRAND, Anthony. The Affiant listed on the Marriage Affidavits was C. R. HANSEN and his address was listed as 26 N 2nd. At the bottom of the affidavit, on the signature line, the name is signed C. R. HANSEN, Jr. On the Marriage Record, this name looked like C. R. HUNSINGER, and he was listed as a witness to the marriage. Looking at the 1912 Polk's Portland City Directory, page 671, I found the following entries: HANSEN, Chas R. Jr., pres C. R. Hansen & Co. r Hotel Carlton. HANSEN, C. R. & Co., Charles R. Hansen Jr., Pres., Employment Agents, 26 2nd N. Tel Main 1526. I also checked the 1912 Portland City Directory for Lillian HUGHES and Martin J. CONLEY, but couldn’t find a match, when looking for the addresses given in the Marriage Affidavit. The 1914 Portland City directory was the next year available, and I didn’t find this couple listed. I checked the database of old Oregonian newspapers on the Multnomah County Library website for mention of the marriage of Lillian HUGHES and Martin J. CONLEY, but didn't find any mention of it in September 1912. A search of the newspapers in Oregon City, or the records of the Catholic church may give more information since the marriage was listed as taking place at the church. There is another record that might be found and be of assistance to anyone looking for the marriage information on Lillian HUGHES and Martin J. CONLEY. The information filled out when the couple applied for their marriage license might be found on microfilm at the State of Oregon Archives in Salem, Oregon. This may or may not be available for records of 1912, but an email to the Archives, or a research trip might prove worth the effort. As to the question whether or not to include the names of the bride and groom I found in the other marriage books, in the marriage index being created by Marie, it was decided not to include these names. Since they were not recorded in the actual Marriage Record book being indexed, they wouldn't be included in the index. The marriage records used are for Multnomah County, Oregon, but similar books may also be available in other states and counties. I hope some of this information has been of interest and possibly can be put to use by someone. And, if someone is checking the internet for anything about the marriage of a Lillian HUGHES and a Martin J. CONLEY, they might find this information helpful. Sincerely, Jan Fenter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORFORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That was very cool thanks for showing how you did it. By the way hi Jan and Paulina Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: Boletused@aol.com To: jfent@hevanet.com, ORFORUM@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 14:52:01 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [GFO] Bride & Groom names missing on Multnomah County Marriage Record Jan...that was great info. You are a good sleuth. I am sure your process will come in handy for many people. Thank you for posting this. Paulina In a message dated 11/3/2011 12:27:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jfent@hevanet.com writes: Hello GFO, I dropped by GFO on Sunday to do some research. Although I didn't find what I was looking for, I became intrigued by something I heard Marie say to Eileen. Marie is a volunteer on the project to create an index of the names of the brides and grooms found in the Multnomah County Marriage Record books. She was working in the Marriage Record book #32, for the period of 1912, and said she had just found a record that didn't have the name of either the bride or the groom. This raised two questions. First, how do we find the missing names? And second, if we find the names, do we list them in the index project even though they were not in this marriage record? I went to look at the record Marie was talking about. All the other information about the marriage was filled in. It had the license number and date, the date and place of the marriage, the marriage was performed by a Catholic Priest, and his name was listed. The marriage was performed at "St Johns Pars." on 26 September 1912. It listed the groom as living in Clackamas County and the bride as living in Multnomah County. The names of the two witnesses were listed, the date the record was filed with the county, and the names of the County Clerk and the Deputy. But, the names of the bride and groom were not on the record. GFO has more than one type of original book, from Multnomah County, giving information on the County marriages. 1) Marriage License Index with an alphabetical index. These books list names from A-Z, for specific time periods. In 1912, each line shows the name of the bride and groom, and gives the book number and page where they are found in the Marriage Record book. 2) Marriage Affidavits book. This book shows someone who says they know one of the persons getting married, usually the bride, names of both the bride and groom, gives the ages of the the couple, or an approximate age, and usually states there is "no legal impediment to the marriage." In Multnomah County, this book is listed in order by the License number. 3) The Marriage Record book. This is where information was posted when the information was returned to the County Clerk to show the marriage had taken place, and gave all the information needed to complete the record on the county books. (This was the book Marie was using for the index she was doing, and it had the marriages listed in order of the License Number..) 4) Marriage Affidavits and Marriage Records. In later years, the Marriage Affidavits and Marriage Records are combined in one book, on the same page, for each marriage. One of the ways to find the names of the bride and groom would be to look at the Marriage License Index, from A - Z, for the name of a bride or groom, showing the book and page number you needed in the Marriage Record book. You would have to eliminate the names already listed on that page. Although this is one way, it would be very time consuming. Using the GFO collection of available marriage records, there is an easier and faster way to find the names of the bride and groom. The marriage record Marie found had the the Marriage License number 23836 stamped the record. These numbers are listed in order on the pages. The record above was 23835 and the one below was 23837. The Marriage Affidavits book also lists the marriages in order by the Marriage License number. Knowing this, I went to the Affidavits book for the date range needed, September 1912, looked for the page with License #23836, and found the names of the bride and groom within just a few minutes. The name of the bride was Lillian HUGHES, and the name of the groom was M. J. CONLEY. Another error was found in the Affidavits record. Although it listed the record book number as 32, the page number was listed as 328, not 228. Looking at page 328 would not give the researcher the information they wanted. Since the License numbers were listed in numerical order, the page of 328 on this Affidavit for the CONLEY and HUGHES record could not have been correct. It was 100 pages too high. The book and page number above and below the one for HUGHES and CONLEY had the correct book 32 and page 228, and since the license numbers are listed numerically, page 228 is correct. The next thing I wanted to find was this marriage listed in the Marriage License Index, and it is a good thing I took the time to look. The groom's name was listed as Martin J. CONLEY. This gave me the first name of the groom, making it easier for a family researcher to locate this couple in additional records, such as census, city directory, newspaper, land, etc. This Index gave the correct book and page number for the Marriage Record book. Multnomah County Marriage Record book 32, page 228. Multnomah County Marriage Affidavits book 17, page 79. Multnomah County Marriage License Index, A - K, July 1910 - Oct. 1915, page 165 for CONLEY, and page 384 for HUGHES. Each of these record books can provide additional parts of the marriage information, and it is sometimes wise to consult all of them, for any different pieces they may have of your relative. Additional information about the Catholic priest. The name on the Marriage Record under "Witness my hand," showed the following: "A. Hillebrand Dean, St John's Church." The Marriage Affidavit didn't have "Dean" after Hillebrand, but only listed "Married by A. Hillebrand." Therefore, could this priest have been the "Dean" of a school attached to the church? I went to Ancestry for the 1910 Oregon Census and found a listing in Oregon City, Clackamas County, for an Anthony HILLEBRAND, a Catholic clergyman, age 51, born in Germany. The address was 912 Water St., between entries of names listed on 9th and 10th streets. There are more than one Catholic church in our area with the name St. John's. I went to the internet and Googled this name. One church of interest was the St. John The Apostle Catholic Church, in Oregon City, Oregon. The church history showed it was active since 1846 and had moved from its original location of 10th and Water streets to its present location at 4th and Center in Oregon City. There was a Parish Church, a School and Administration offices. 1910 Census, Oregon City, Clackamas County, Oregon, E.D. 43, Sheet 10A, line 26, Address 912 Water St., Dwelling 206, Family 212, date 23-25 April. HILLEBRAND, Anthony. The Affiant listed on the Marriage Affidavits was C. R. HANSEN and his address was listed as 26 N 2nd. At the bottom of the affidavit, on the signature line, the name is signed C. R. HANSEN, Jr. On the Marriage Record, this name looked like C. R. HUNSINGER, and he was listed as a witness to the marriage. Looking at the 1912 Polk's Portland City Directory, page 671, I found the following entries: HANSEN, Chas R. Jr., pres C. R. Hansen & Co. r Hotel Carlton. HANSEN, C. R. & Co., Charles R. Hansen Jr., Pres., Employment Agents, 26 2nd N. Tel Main 1526. I also checked the 1912 Portland City Directory for Lillian HUGHES and Martin J. CONLEY, but couldn’t find a match, when looking for the addresses given in the Marriage Affidavit. The 1914 Portland City directory was the next year available, and I didn’t find this couple listed. I checked the database of old Oregonian newspapers on the Multnomah County Library website for mention of the marriage of Lillian HUGHES and Martin J. CONLEY, but didn't find any mention of it in September 1912. A search of the newspapers in Oregon City, or the records of the Catholic church may give more information since the marriage was listed as taking place at the church. There is another record that might be found and be of assistance to anyone looking for the marriage information on Lillian HUGHES and Martin J. CONLEY. The information filled out when the couple applied for their marriage license might be found on microfilm at the State of Oregon Archives in Salem, Oregon. This may or may not be available for records of 1912, but an email to the Archives, or a research trip might prove worth the effort. As to the question whether or not to include the names of the bride and groom I found in the other marriage books, in the marriage index being created by Marie, it was decided not to include these names. Since they were not recorded in the actual Marriage Record book being indexed, they wouldn't be included in the index. The marriage records used are for Multnomah County, Oregon, but similar books may also be available in other states and counties. I hope some of this information has been of interest and possibly can be put to use by someone. And, if someone is checking the internet for anything about the marriage of a Lillian HUGHES and a Martin J. CONLEY, they might find this information helpful. Sincerely, Jan Fenter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORFORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORFORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sounds like bowlers - that would be my guess.    The Oregonian used to report a lot of minor league, or should I say company teams competing against other businesses.   Sam Butler ________________________________ From: II Keller <kelleri00@hotmail.com> To: orforum@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 2:48 PM Subject: [GFO] Honor Rollers in Oregonian 1960s What was the Honor Rollers in the Oregonian in 1960s? I found Glenn Hansen in the Honor Rollers column: on Mar. 3, 1961          AMATO's - Amotatoestes: Norma Bartows, 516; Railroad: Glenn Hansen, 575..... on Feb 25, 1964      GRAND CENTRAL....Esco Swing: Glenn Hansen, 538... Thank you.                           ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORFORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What was the Honor Rollers in the Oregonian in 1960s? I found Glenn Hansen in the Honor Rollers column: on Mar. 3, 1961 AMATO's - Amotatoestes: Norma Bartows, 516; Railroad: Glenn Hansen, 575..... on Feb 25, 1964 GRAND CENTRAL....Esco Swing: Glenn Hansen, 538... Thank you.

Hello GFO, I dropped by GFO on Sunday to do some research. Although I didn't find what I was looking for, I became intrigued by something I heard Marie say to Eileen. Marie is a volunteer on the project to create an index of the names of the brides and grooms found in the Multnomah County Marriage Record books. She was working in the Marriage Record book #32, for the period of 1912, and said she had just found a record that didn't have the name of either the bride or the groom. This raised two questions. First, how do we find the missing names? And second, if we find the names, do we list them in the index project even though they were not in this marriage record? I went to look at the record Marie was talking about. All the other information about the marriage was filled in. It had the license number and date, the date and place of the marriage, the marriage was performed by a Catholic Priest, and his name was listed. The marriage was performed at "St Johns Pars." on 26 September 1912. It listed the groom as living in Clackamas County and the bride as living in Multnomah County. The names of the two witnesses were listed, the date the record was filed with the county, and the names of the County Clerk and the Deputy. But, the names of the bride and groom were not on the record. GFO has more than one type of original book, from Multnomah County, giving information on the County marriages. 1) Marriage License Index with an alphabetical index. These books list names from A-Z, for specific time periods. In 1912, each line shows the name of the bride and groom, and gives the book number and page where they are found in the Marriage Record book. 2) Marriage Affidavits book. This book shows someone who says they know one of the persons getting married, usually the bride, names of both the bride and groom, gives the ages of the the couple, or an approximate age, and usually states there is "no legal impediment to the marriage." In Multnomah County, this book is listed in order by the License number. 3) The Marriage Record book. This is where information was posted when the information was returned to the County Clerk to show the marriage had taken place, and gave all the information needed to complete the record on the county books. (This was the book Marie was using for the index she was doing, and it had the marriages listed in order of the License Number..) 4) Marriage Affidavits and Marriage Records. In later years, the Marriage Affidavits and Marriage Records are combined in one book, on the same page, for each marriage. One of the ways to find the names of the bride and groom would be to look at the Marriage License Index, from A - Z, for the name of a bride or groom, showing the book and page number you needed in the Marriage Record book. You would have to eliminate the names already listed on that page. Although this is one way, it would be very time consuming. Using the GFO collection of available marriage records, there is an easier and faster way to find the names of the bride and groom. The marriage record Marie found had the the Marriage License number 23836 stamped the record. These numbers are listed in order on the pages. The record above was 23835 and the one below was 23837. The Marriage Affidavits book also lists the marriages in order by the Marriage License number. Knowing this, I went to the Affidavits book for the date range needed, September 1912, looked for the page with License #23836, and found the names of the bride and groom within just a few minutes. The name of the bride was Lillian HUGHES, and the name of the groom was M. J. CONLEY. Another error was found in the Affidavits record. Although it listed the record book number as 32, the page number was listed as 328, not 228. Looking at page 328 would not give the researcher the information they wanted. Since the License numbers were listed in numerical order, the page of 328 on this Affidavit for the CONLEY and HUGHES record could not have been correct. It was 100 pages too high. The book and page number above and below the one for HUGHES and CONLEY had the correct book 32 and page 228, and since the license numbers are listed numerically, page 228 is correct. The next thing I wanted to find was this marriage listed in the Marriage License Index, and it is a good thing I took the time to look. The groom's name was listed as Martin J. CONLEY. This gave me the first name of the groom, making it easier for a family researcher to locate this couple in additional records, such as census, city directory, newspaper, land, etc. This Index gave the correct book and page number for the Marriage Record book. Multnomah County Marriage Record book 32, page 228. Multnomah County Marriage Affidavits book 17, page 79. Multnomah County Marriage License Index, A - K, July 1910 - Oct. 1915, page 165 for CONLEY, and page 384 for HUGHES. Each of these record books can provide additional parts of the marriage information, and it is sometimes wise to consult all of them, for any different pieces they may have of your relative. Additional information about the Catholic priest. The name on the Marriage Record under "Witness my hand," showed the following: "A. Hillebrand Dean, St John's Church." The Marriage Affidavit didn't have "Dean" after Hillebrand, but only listed "Married by A. Hillebrand." Therefore, could this priest have been the "Dean" of a school attached to the church? I went to Ancestry for the 1910 Oregon Census and found a listing in Oregon City, Clackamas County, for an Anthony HILLEBRAND, a Catholic clergyman, age 51, born in Germany. The address was 912 Water St., between entries of names listed on 9th and 10th streets. There are more than one Catholic church in our area with the name St. John's. I went to the internet and Googled this name. One church of interest was the St. John The Apostle Catholic Church, in Oregon City, Oregon. The church history showed it was active since 1846 and had moved from its original location of 10th and Water streets to its present location at 4th and Center in Oregon City. There was a Parish Church, a School and Administration offices. 1910 Census, Oregon City, Clackamas County, Oregon, E.D. 43, Sheet 10A, line 26, Address 912 Water St., Dwelling 206, Family 212, date 23-25 April. HILLEBRAND, Anthony. The Affiant listed on the Marriage Affidavits was C. R. HANSEN and his address was listed as 26 N 2nd. At the bottom of the affidavit, on the signature line, the name is signed C. R. HANSEN, Jr. On the Marriage Record, this name looked like C. R. HUNSINGER, and he was listed as a witness to the marriage. Looking at the 1912 Polk's Portland City Directory, page 671, I found the following entries: HANSEN, Chas R. Jr., pres C. R. Hansen & Co. r Hotel Carlton. HANSEN, C. R. & Co., Charles R. Hansen Jr., Pres., Employment Agents, 26 2nd N. Tel Main 1526. I also checked the 1912 Portland City Directory for Lillian HUGHES and Martin J. CONLEY, but couldn’t find a match, when looking for the addresses given in the Marriage Affidavit. The 1914 Portland City directory was the next year available, and I didn’t find this couple listed. I checked the database of old Oregonian newspapers on the Multnomah County Library website for mention of the marriage of Lillian HUGHES and Martin J. CONLEY, but didn't find any mention of it in September 1912. A search of the newspapers in Oregon City, or the records of the Catholic church may give more information since the marriage was listed as taking place at the church. There is another record that might be found and be of assistance to anyone looking for the marriage information on Lillian HUGHES and Martin J. CONLEY. The information filled out when the couple applied for their marriage license might be found on microfilm at the State of Oregon Archives in Salem, Oregon. This may or may not be available for records of 1912, but an email to the Archives, or a research trip might prove worth the effort. As to the question whether or not to include the names of the bride and groom I found in the other marriage books, in the marriage index being created by Marie, it was decided not to include these names. Since they were not recorded in the actual Marriage Record book being indexed, they wouldn't be included in the index. The marriage records used are for Multnomah County, Oregon, but similar books may also be available in other states and counties. I hope some of this information has been of interest and possibly can be put to use by someone. And, if someone is checking the internet for anything about the marriage of a Lillian HUGHES and a Martin J. CONLEY, they might find this information helpful. Sincerely, Jan Fenter

First let me say how sorry I am that some of you may have received weird e-mails from my address. My e-mail was hacked and I have hopefully corrected the situation. Please let me know if you continue to get these bad messages. Now for the good news! Heritage Scrapbooking will continue at GFO on Sunday, Nov. 6th from 1 p.m. to 4:30 p.m. But I'm sorry to say I won't be able to join you this month as I must attend the out of town funeral of a dear friend on Sunday. But, Alene Reaugh has agreed to host the group and will have some information for you on Heritage Scrapbook Themes. So for those of you who just can't decide how to start your heritage scrapbook, come on over on Sunday and see one of these themes just might be the spark you need to get you going. Please let me know if you plan to attend by responding to this e-mail, and I'll see you all in December. Regards, Bonnie LaDoe

The GFO Virginia Interest Group will be meeting on Saturday, November 5 at 10 am. Carol Surrency will give a presentation on the Scots- Irish, a very important group in the history of Virginia. Bring some information about your Virginia families. Maybe we can get some research started.

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Just wanted to post a reminder concerning the Family History Fair this coming Saturday. Sue LeBlanc posted this previously on ORFORUM. Milwaukie Stake Family History Center is sponsoring their annual family history fair "Capturing Ancestral Treasures" Saturday, 5 November 2011 9:00 am - 4:30 pm 8331 Cason Road, Gladstone, Oregon We hope you will plan to attend this exciting free event. Our speakers will include - Peggy Baldwin, Scott Edwards, JoAnne Haugen, Barbara Hovorka, Leslie Lawson, Susan LeBlanc, Tom O'Brien, John Rudnick, Valerie Schomburg, Judi Scott, and Cindy Webb. Classes will include - Beginning Genealogy, Doing On-Site Research: Going There Walking Their Ground, Family Skeletons, Finding the Immigrant: Where are those Elusive Records?, Using Google and Other Internet Sites, Irish Research, Religions Affiliations and Their Records, Researching In Family Search, Roots Magic: An Overview, Scanning & Organizing Part I and Part II, Shrewd Internet Strategies, Spreadsheets for Genealogy: Chronologies, Research Logs, and Making Sense of your Research, Tracing Canadian Ancestors, U. S. Newspaper Program, Using Books Online, Virginia Migration Routes: Where, When, and Why, Wagons West, and Your Research Tip to Oregon State Archives and Oregon Library. No lunch provided - Please bring a sack lunch For more information and to pre-register go to: _http://www.milwaukie_or_fhc.byethost31.com/_ (http://www.milwaukie_or_fhc.byethost31.com/) or call _503-722-8766_ (tel:503-722-8766) . Syllabus material will only be available online. Invite your friends and acquaintances and plan to be in attendance on 5 November 2011 for this free event.

Two things. The Milwaukie Family History Fair on November 5 from 9-4:30. Registration is now open. This is just to get an idea of the size of room needed for the classes. Link to the website and then go to the tab at upper right for the Fair. We hope to see you there. Please note that several GFO members are presenting. http://www.milwaukie_or_fhc.byethost31.com/ I finally have established a blog for my research work and would love to have your thoughts about the postings. Under each tab are additional articles that I have published, some for the GFO. Susan LeBlanc AG® http://gophergenealogy.blogspot.com/ AG® certification marks are the sole property of the International Commission for the Accreditation of Professional Genealogists. All Rights Reserved. Last modified August 2008

Both Paul and I have both our Irish citizenship and Irish passports. We obtained them over two years ago. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2011, at 12:34 AM, "orforum-request@rootsweb.com" <orforum-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Certificate Of Irish Heritage (Tom O'Brien) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 06:03:10 -0700 > From: "Tom O'Brien" <tom.obrien4@comcast.net> > Subject: [GFO] Certificate Of Irish Heritage > To: ORFORUM@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4E95900E.4010209@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hello All! > > During the Irish weekend of the GFO Open House there was much interest > in the Certificate of Irish Heritage. > > I have just received the following information that it is finally > available. > > Go to: > http://www.heritagecertificate.ie/ > > The Irish Government's Certificate of Irish Heritage has gone live > giving millions of people with Irish roots the chance to be officially > recognized by the Irish State. Although the Certificate will be issued > by the Irish Government, it is not a certificate of citizenship nor does > it give the holder rights or entitlements of a citizen of Ireland. But > it does recognize those of Irish heritage in an official way and gives a > practical expression to the sense of Irish identity felt by millions. > > Tom O'Brien > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ORFORUM list administrator, send an email to > ORFORUM-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ORFORUM mailing list, send an email to ORFORUM@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORFORUM-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ORFORUM Digest, Vol 6, Issue 107 > ***************************************

Our scrapbook seems to be lacking photos of the events that took place during the month of the opening. I do have nice ones of the Grand Opening on Sept. 14, and one of the Writer's Forum in September, but I'd sure like to add more. So, Irish Group, Illinois Group, DNA Group, Cemeteries Day group, Virginia Group, DAR workshop, German groups , etc. Please, PLEASE, e-mail any photos you may have taken to me at bladoe@aol.com so I can complete our scrapbook. Thank you, thank you! Bonnie LaDoe

Hello All! During the Irish weekend of the GFO Open House there was much interest in the Certificate of Irish Heritage. I have just received the following information that it is finally available. Go to: http://www.heritagecertificate.ie/ The Irish Government's Certificate of Irish Heritage has gone live giving millions of people with Irish roots the chance to be officially recognized by the Irish State. Although the Certificate will be issued by the Irish Government, it is not a certificate of citizenship nor does it give the holder rights or entitlements of a citizen of Ireland. But it does recognize those of Irish heritage in an official way and gives a practical expression to the sense of Irish identity felt by millions. Tom O'Brien