Jan, Thank you for the interesting posting! I looked and just found out that my RootsMagic genealogy program has a dating feature that goes back at at least as far as 38BC. Unfortunately it doesn't allow for the days being taken from February to please the egos of Julius and Augustus Caesar. Carole > From: jfent@hevanet.com > To: ORFORUM@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 11:23:27 -0800 > Subject: [GFO] Reference Calendar 1796-2025, and poem "Monday's Child" > > Hello List, > Recently, a friend of mine commented that she couldn't remember Christmas being on a Sunday until this last one. Her comment got me started on a fun research project for her. > > Several years ago I found a special calendar in one of our Portland phonebooks and tore it out to use in my genealogy research. It was called "Reference Calendar, 1796-2025". There were a total of 14 calendars on the page, January-December. Numbers 1-7 were for years with February only having 28 days. Numbers 8-14 were for years that February had 29 days (leap years). A leap year adds another day into the mix for the start of the next year's calendar. (If there isn't a leap year in the previous year's calendar, and if January 1st started on Tuesday the previous year, January 1st would start on Wednesday the next year.) At the top of the page, there was an index showing each year, from 1796-2025, and the number of the calendar to use for each year. > > I found the following years, within my friend's lifetime, where December 25th fell on a Sunday: > 1938, 1949, 1955, 1960 a Leap Year, 1966, 1977, 1983, 1988 a Leap Year, 1994, 2005, 2011. > > Calendar index numbers 7 and 13 are the only ones that have December 25th on a Sunday. The next two years that will have December 25th on a Sunday will be 2016 and 2022.

Hello List, Recently, a friend of mine commented that she couldn't remember Christmas being on a Sunday until this last one. Her comment got me started on a fun research project for her. Several years ago I found a special calendar in one of our Portland phonebooks and tore it out to use in my genealogy research. It was called "Reference Calendar, 1796-2025". There were a total of 14 calendars on the page, January-December. Numbers 1-7 were for years with February only having 28 days. Numbers 8-14 were for years that February had 29 days (leap years). A leap year adds another day into the mix for the start of the next year's calendar. (If there isn't a leap year in the previous year's calendar, and if January 1st started on Tuesday the previous year, January 1st would start on Wednesday the next year.) At the top of the page, there was an index showing each year, from 1796-2025, and the number of the calendar to use for each year. I found the following years, within my friend's lifetime, where December 25th fell on a Sunday: 1938, 1949, 1955, 1960 a Leap Year, 1966, 1977, 1983, 1988 a Leap Year, 1994, 2005, 2011. Calendar index numbers 7 and 13 are the only ones that have December 25th on a Sunday. The next two years that will have December 25th on a Sunday will be 2016 and 2022. Using the "Reference Calendar" here is an example of how "Leap Year" effects the day of the week on which January 1st falls: Year, calendar number, Day of the week for January 1st, Leap Year (Y/N) 1958....4....Wednesday....N 1959....5....Thursday....N 1960....13....Friday....Y 1961....1....Sunday....N 1962....2....Monday....N 1963....3....Tuesday....N 1964....11....Wednesday....Y 1965....6....Friday....N 1966....7....Saturday....N 1967....1....Sunday....N 1968....9....Monday....Y 1969....4....Wednesday....N 1970....5....Thursday....N I found a not so great copy of the Reference Calendar at the following website, but it gives you an idea of what I use: http://www.rawlingsrollingshistory.com/2000/Dec2000p60.htm (Someone posting to a RootsWeb list said they found this calendar in a US West Telephone Directory for 1992.) Another fun thing to do is use the Mother Goose poem, "Monday's Child", to see how the poem describes the character of a child, depending on what day of the week they were born. The poem may or may not be true about you or a person you know, but it is fun to compare the person with what the poem says. I found two slightly different versions on the internet. The difference is in the wording of the "Sabbath day" child. Sunday was traditionally referred to as the 'Sabbath day' so there is no specific reference to Sundays child. Traditional poem - Mondays child http://www.rhymes.org.uk/mondays_child.htm Mondays child poem, by Mother Goose (Version #1) Mondays child is fair of face, Tuesdays child is full of grace, Wednesdays child is full of woe, Thursdays child has far to go, Fridays child is loving and giving, Saturdays child works hard for his living, And the child that is born on the Sabbath day Is bonny and blithe, and good and gay. http://www.bethanyroberts.com/MondaysChildIsFairofFace.htm Mondays child poem, by Mother Goose (Version #2) Monday's child is fair of face, Tuesday's child is full of grace, Wednesday's child is full of woe, Thursday's child has far to go. Friday's child is loving and giving, Saturday's child works hard for a living, But the child born on the Sabbath Day, Is fair and wise and good and gay. - - - - - - - - - - - I found my friend was born on a Tuesday, and she is full of Grace. Her husband was born on a Wednesday, but he was definitely not full of Woe. She gave me the dates of birth for herself, her husband, father, mother and her 3 children. I looked up the day of the week on which each was born, and sent that information to her along with the poem. I hope this is adds something interesting and fun to your family research, as it has to mine. Sincerely, Jan Fenter

Don' t forget the Virginia Group meeting tomorrow, Saturday, January 7 at 10 am. Start the New Year with a resolution to get to work on that brick wall. Joining the Virginia Interest Group is one way to get motivated and find some help with your research. Please come and share your best genealogical find of 2011 (or the worst). Did you accomplish what you wanted in 2011? What are your goals for 2012? Maybe we can help with suggestions. We'll also figure out how to pronounce some of those southern names like Botetourt. As time allows we may discuss using PERSI to help with your research and Internet "myths" about our families. See you tomorrow Judi & Carol

Just a reminder to all of you.... I had planned on showing you the new 2.0 version of the personal webpages on Family Tree DNA, but just a couple days ago, they went live for every tester to see. Regardless, we'll view them and practice using some of the features. We'll also update you on the "breaking news" with 23andMe. See you there Emily Reminder from: NW-ISOGG Yahoo! Group Title: GFO DNA Interest Group Meeting Date: Tuesday January 10, 2012 Time: 1:00 pm - 3:00 pm Location: Genealogical Forum of Oregon Library Street: 2505 SE 11th Suite B-18 (Basement Suite) City State Zip: Portland OR 97202 Phone: 503-963-1932 Notes: January's meeting will be jam-packed! Please be on time as the full two hours will be needed. The following topics are to be covered: 1. A short review of the events at the Family Tree DNA International Conference. 2. Review of a new DNA book. 3. Preview of myFTDNA 2.0 webpages 4. Time to explore the new personal webpages of Family Tree DNA using a handout to guide you. 5. Optional: Explore 23andMe website. (Bring your password) Using the society's computers or your own laptop, Emily, Tim Jansen and David Reynolds will assist members with use of the Family Tree DNA and the 23andMe personal webpages. These pages will include test results for the Y-DNA, mtDNA and the Family Finder Test for FTDNA and the Ancestry test for 23andMe. If you have tested with FTDNA, bring your kit number and code to explore your own pages. If you have not, you can view kit information that will be provided. Due to the size of the room and the number of computers, please bring your own laptop if you have one. You may also share computers or watch someone else. This will also be of interest if you plan on testing later with either company. Donations to cover the cost of the handout are accepted. Bring a friend!

Just for fun-we have a variety of topics for the January Virginia Goup meeting. Do you speak Virginian? Ever wonder how to say Botetourt County?, Kanawha River? We'll figure it out. Share the most outstanding thing you learned about your family in 2011 and/or tell us your goals for 2012. The group will make research suggestions to help you achieve your goal. (If you can, let us know if you want to present your information; it will help us plan the meeting.) If time allows we might also talk about debunking those internet myths about our families and how PERSI can help with our research. Judi Scott

Happy New Year! Hope you all had a great holiday! We're kicking off our first Heritage Scrapbooking of 2012 on Sunday, January 8th from 1 p.m. to 4:30 p.m. If you're interested in getting your old photos into a safe environment while telling your family story in a way that your family will appreciate, please join us. If you're already a scrapbooker, just bring your cropping tools and join us for a pleasant afternoon. (Remember, family heritage scrapbooking only - you can do those vacation photos another time:-) If you're new to scrapbooking, don't worry. Come and see what others are doing and gather ideas to get you started. Please let me know if you can come and what interests you most - paper scrapbooking or digital scrapbooking. We have information on both available. Hope to see you Sunday. Bonnie LaDoe

We wanted to let you know our "day" is the 14th (not the 7th) !!! It is on the calendar in the new "Insider" that I received yesterday....Virginians are meeting on the 7th . Fortunately, Harlene can read a calendar better than I can...and has alerted us that the 14th is the day! As usual it will be from 9:30-11:30 Saturday morning. Tom O'Brien will be leading a program about what's "newer" in genealogy...and how far we've come from the "olden days". Harlene will be there as the watcher and doer...watching that plans get made 'right' and when I don't do that, fixing the problems. (Kristy will be in Illinois, teaching the Kendall County class for January.) Happy New Year.....Harlene and Kristy and Tom --- On Wed, 12/28/11, Kristy Gravlin <hannah@teleport.com> wrote: > > From: Kristy Gravlin <hannah@teleport.com> > Subject: Re: Oh My, What to do Now? > To: "Harlene Patterson" <harlene5@yahoo.com> > Date: Wednesday, December 28, 2011, 7:03 AM > > in a rush to get to ³work² at library...but Tom said he would do the class. > You are off the hook with the powerpoint. I¹ll send you a copy of the script > too so you¹ll know what to expect. K > > > On 12/27/11 12:32 PM, "Harlene Patterson" <harlene5@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> As usual I will be happy to help....but someone would have to set it all up >> fpr me ????? I ca always do the reading an "lead" Harlene >> >> --- On Tue, 12/27/11, Kristy Gravlin <hannah@teleport.com> wrote: >>> >>> From: Kristy Gravlin <hannah@teleport.com> >>> Subject: Oh My, What to do Now? >>> To: ".IL Interest [8511-1114]" <hannah@teleport.com> >>> Date: Tuesday, December 27, 2011, 10:17 AM >>> >>> I know it has been busy at your house. Christmas season is like that. But I >>> haven¹t heard from anybody who would like to lead the Illinois Interest >>> group on January 7th. There is a power point program with a script. All you >>> would have to do is put the power point program ³on² and then read each >>> section of the script and press the mouse to advance the program. >>> >>> It¹s about what¹s old...and what¹s new...in genealogy. First to get a little >>> perspective, then to see what you may be missing. You don¹t really have to >>> ³know² anything. The others in attendance will assist by sharing what they >>> know, in addition to what¹s on the script. >>> >>> This is a good program for someone who has not taken on the ³lead² before >>> since it is all written. If you are not adept at power-point, someone will >>> help you. And it is so easy that I learned without consulting a guide. >>> So, if you read the directions I send, you can do it too. I promise to make >>> them at ³kindergarten² level.... >>> >>> So who can do the lead for the group? Write and let me know right away and >>> we¹ll have lots of time to compare notes and be sure you are ready. >>> >>> Kristy >> > ------ End of Forwarded Message

Greetings! Below is the a sample of the meeting alerts I send through the NW-ISOGG Yahoo Group. If you would like to receive these reminders, just join ISOGG (no cost to you) by filling out the form (only name, phone and email are needed...and tell them you learned about this from me) at: www.iosgg.org Your information is not given/sold to anyone. I just need to know you have joined so I can connect you to the NW-ISOGG group for these emails. Regardless, anyone is welcome to attend the GFO DNA Interest Group Meeting mentioned in the info below... (AND, I can spell Library...duh!) Reminder from: NW-ISOGG Yahoo! Group Title: GFO DNA Interest Group Meeting Date: Tuesday January 10, 2012 Time: 1:00 pm - 3:00 pm Next reminder: The next reminder for this event will be sent in 10 days, 4 minutes. Location: Genealogical Forum of Oregon Libary Street: 2505 SE 11th Suite B-18 (Basement Suite) City State Zip: Portland OR 97202 Phone: 503-963-1932 Notes: January's meeting will be jam-packed! Please be on time as the full two hours will be needed. The following topics are to be covered: 1. A short review of the events at the Family Tree DNA International Conference. 2. Review of a new DNA book. 3. Preview of myFTDNA 2.0 webpages 4. Time to explore the new personal webpages of Family Tree DNA using a handout to guide you. 5. Optional: Explore 23andMe website. (Bring your password) Using the society's computers or your own laptop, Emily, Tim Jansen and David Reynolds will assist members with use of the Family Tree DNA and the 23andMe personal webpages. These pages will include test results for the Y-DNA, mtDNA and the Family Finder Test for FTDNA and the Ancestry test for 23andMe. If you have tested with FTDNA, bring your kit number and code to explore your own pages. If you have not, you can view kit information that will be provided. Due to the size of the room and the number of computers, please bring your own laptop if you have one. You may also share computers or watch someone else. This will also be of interest if you plan on testing later with either company. Donations to cover the cost of the handout are accepted. Bring a friend! See you there! Emily If you do not hear from me in a timely manner, just write again...I was buried in email. LOL Guild of One Name Study (GOONS) for Ogan: ogan@one-name.org http://writingyourmemories.blogspot.com/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgco2/speaker/EmilyAulicino.html http://genealem-geneticgenealogy.blogspot.com/ Northwest Regional Coordinator and Speaker for ISOGG (www.isogg.org) Administrator for twelve FTDNA DNA Projects

Peggy, I read the story in the Oregonian this morning and could not wait and went online to read the rest of the story. Ester Gavin and my mother have a couple of things in common. The both came to America because of a dream for a better life for themselves and they did this by marring a GI and using the 1945 War Bride Act which expired on December 31, 1948 to gain entry to America . In my mother's case she did not arrive in Portland until October 30, 1948. But she was determined to become an US citizen and she went to night school at Benson HS to learn English and was naturalized on October 4th, 1951. While at Benson she made many friends with other Italians and that kept her from feeling completely lonely. In looking Ester Gavin has any thought been given to she if she followed this route? Eugene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Baldwin at Family Passages" <peggy.baldwin@family-passages.com> To: "eugenemelvin roots" <eugenemelvin.roots@comcast.net>, orforum-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 1:08:32 PM Subject: RE: [GFO] War Bride Story I'm mentioned at the end of day 2, as a professional genealogist, and the beginning of day 3 by name. I did some of the work last year for Icelandic family members. Peggy Peggy Baldwin, MLS Family Passages LLC www.family-passages.com 503-916-9410 Pacific Northwest & Oregon Trail -----Original Message----- From: orforum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:orforum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of eugenemelvin.roots@comcast.net Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 12:56 PM To: orforum-l@rootsweb.com Subject: [GFO] War Bride Story A Great but sad Story on family research. Eugene http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/12/war_bride_esther_gavin . html#incart_mrt     ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORFORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A Great but sad Story on family research. Eugene http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/12/war_bride_esther_gavin.html#incart_mrt

I'm mentioned at the end of day 2, as a professional genealogist, and the beginning of day 3 by name. I did some of the work last year for Icelandic family members. Peggy Peggy Baldwin, MLS Family Passages LLC www.family-passages.com 503-916-9410 Pacific Northwest & Oregon Trail -----Original Message----- From: orforum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:orforum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of eugenemelvin.roots@comcast.net Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 12:56 PM To: orforum-l@rootsweb.com Subject: [GFO] War Bride Story A Great but sad Story on family research. Eugene http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/12/war_bride_esther_gavin. html#incart_mrt ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORFORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, There is a copy of Family Tree Maker's Soc Sec death index on cd for sale right now on EBAY. It covers from 1937-1998. They want 10 bucks for it if anyone is interested. Nathan

Hello everyone, To follow up on my earlier posts about the SSDI disappearing from Rootsweb and the Gov. taking away the number and making it harder to learn the parents names I submit the following. Today I read another bloggers' posting and it seems that two (2) resources out there (at this time at least) still show the SS number. I am pasting in what he wrote following. One of those sources being the FamilySearch site (free) and the other being NEGHS (pay to access). Don Finel ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ FamilySearch.org still offering SSDI access...for now... FamilySearch.org still offers free searching of their SSDI database, without registration, and still shows the social security numbers of everyone in their database. I don't know how long that will last, however. Personally, I recommend everyone search the FamilySearch.org database and mark down the information they have on each person in your tree. This isn't only the social security number, but the birth date, death date, place of issuance (of the social security number), last residence, and place where last benefit was sent. All of this information can be useful in genealogy research, and while these companies are removing the social security numbers now as a pre-emptive attempt to prevent further regulation, if regulation does arrive from the legislature, as written now it would eliminate access to all of this information (not just the social security numbers). Therefore, I suggest making a list of those people in your database who were working in the US after 1935, and going through the FamilySearch.org SSDI Database and copy all the information you can, while you still can... ____________________________________________________________ 60-Year-Old Mom Looks 27 Mom Reveals Free Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4ef8c258c48af106100fst04duc

I'm sure y'all know about these. A friend, who is not a genealogist, sent this to me. It looks pretty commercial. http://www.familyhistoryexpos.com/ Good hunting, Carole

Hello all again, Relating to the closing down of the S.S.D.I. on Rootsweb, the blogger that I review each day has posted a follow up to his original post which I forwarded to this group a few days ago. I am posting that follow up below and in it are some links that you might consider going to and see what some other bloggers posted about it. I know for one I trust Dick Eastman’s comments very much. Just click on the blue link and that will take you to their site(s) and comment pages. Megan Smolenyak wrote a very informative article on her blog, consider reading it. Don Finel F240 <http://www.geneamusings.com/2011/12/commentary-on-social-security-death.html> Commentary on Social Security Death Index Restrictions Posted: 13 Dec 2011 01:30 PM PST ... Since the <http://www.geneamusings.com/2011/12/social-security-death-index-gone-from.html> finding yesterday that the Social Security Death Index (SSDI, the public version of the Death Master File (DMF)) had been removed from the free Rootsweb website, there have been a number of articles about the issue by notable genealogists that shed some light, and some commentary, on the issue. These include: * Amy Johnson Crow <http://www.amyjohnsoncrow.com/> wrote Why <http://www.amyjohnsoncrow.com/2011/11/25/why-closing-the-ssdi-is-a-bad-idea/> Closing the SSDI is a Bad Idea on 25 November. She refers to the “Keeping IDs Safe Act of 2011″ (aka KIDS Act), introduced but not yet passed in the U.S. Congress. * Kimberly Powell on the About: Genealogy <http://genealogy.about.com/b/> blog wrote Social <http://genealogy.about.com/b/2011/12/12/social-security-administration-to-cut-names-from-public-death-master-file-aka-ssdi.htm> Security Administration Removing Names from Public Death Master File (aka SSDI) on 12 December. She refers to Amy's post and to Social Security's FAQ on Online <http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/149/~/online-availability-of-ssa's-death-master-file> availability of SSA's Death Master File. * Megan Smolenyak Smolenyak wrote <http://megansmolenyak.posterous.com/are-we-going-to-lose-the-social-security-deat> Are We Going to Lose the Social Security Death Index (SSDI)? on her blog today which summarized some of the identity theft reports and referenced a <http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/11/28/presidential-memorandum-managing-government-records> Presidential Memorandum for Managing Government Records. * Dick Eastman wrote Genealogists <http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2011/12/genealogists-are-losing-access-to-ssdi-mostly-due-to-misinformation.html> are Losing Access to SSDI, Mostly Due to Misinformation and linked to several identity theft reports. Megan and Dick noted that the problem is that the government agencies, credit organizations and banks that should be utilizing the Death Master File to screen income tax returns and other identity-critical information are not using the tool provided to them by the SSDI/DMF. They also identify the proactive response that genealogists can take to influence their congressional representatives and senators - and point out the real problem in a polite, informational letter or telephone call. Otherwise, we're going to lose the Social Security Death Index as a useful genealogical resource if we don't do something soon. We will still be able to order information from the Social Security Administration, but the process will be much more difficult to execute. The Social Security Application can be ordered using the form at http://www.socialsecurity.gov/online/ssa-711.pdf. ____________________________________________________________ LifeLock® Official Site Identity Theft Can Happen to Anyone So Get Protection with LifeLock. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4ee8caa1c801cbc989fst06duc

It's still up on Ancestry. I'm wondering if taking it down was a bit of an overreaction on Rootsweb's part. The government will not be providing any death information provided by states. I don't think all of their data comes from that source. Peggy -----Original Message----- From: orforum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:orforum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Don Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 8:04 AM To: ORFORUM@rootsweb.com Subject: [GFO] S.S.D.I. gone from Rootsweb Hello all, We are now beginning to see the newest of the loss of the Social Security Death Index available to us genealogists. I have not viewed the Ancestry site to check it out, nor the FamilySearch site, but did verify that it is gone now from Rootsweb. Don Finel <http://www.geneamusings.com/2011/12/social-security-death-index-gone-from.h tml> Social Security Death Index Gone from Rootsweb.com Posted: 12 Dec 2011 03:21 PM PST One of the very best FREE databases for the past ten years or more has been the Social Security Death Index (actually the Death Master Index) on Rootsweb (http://searches.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ssdi.html). One of the best features of this page was the letter that could be printed to order an SS-5 application from the U.S. government. Now it is gone. The note on the site says: "Due to sensitivities around the information in this database, the Social Security Death Index collection is not available on our free Rootsweb service but is accessible to search on Ancestry.com. Visit the <http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=3693> Social Security Death Index page to be directly connected to this collection." This must have happened in the last few days, since I used it last week on Rootsweb. The Social Security Death Index is also available on: * FamilySearch.org: <https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://hr-search-ap i:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1202535> FREE, but no letter written. * GenealogyBank.com: <http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/ssdi/> FREE, but no letter written. * Ancestry.com: <http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=3693> FREE, with a link to write a letter in the Page Tools (upper left corner of the Search results) - "Request copy of original application." There is an interesting comment on the Ancestry page: "Why can't I see the Social Security Number? If the Social Security Number is not visible on the record index it is because Ancestry.com does not provide this number in the Social Security Death Index for any person that has passed away within the past 10 years." This is, I think, another recent change. ____________________________________________________________ LifeLockB. Official Site Identity Theft Can Happen to Anyone So Get Protection with LifeLock. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4ee77781c25dab646f1st04duc

Hello all, We are now beginning to see the newest of the loss of the Social Security Death Index available to us genealogists. I have not viewed the Ancestry site to check it out, nor the FamilySearch site, but did verify that it is gone now from Rootsweb. Don Finel <http://www.geneamusings.com/2011/12/social-security-death-index-gone-from.h tml> Social Security Death Index Gone from Rootsweb.com Posted: 12 Dec 2011 03:21 PM PST One of the very best FREE databases for the past ten years or more has been the Social Security Death Index (actually the Death Master Index) on Rootsweb (http://searches.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ssdi.html). One of the best features of this page was the letter that could be printed to order an SS-5 application from the U.S. government. Now it is gone. The note on the site says: "Due to sensitivities around the information in this database, the Social Security Death Index collection is not available on our free Rootsweb service but is accessible to search on Ancestry.com. Visit the <http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=3693> Social Security Death Index page to be directly connected to this collection." This must have happened in the last few days, since I used it last week on Rootsweb. The Social Security Death Index is also available on: * FamilySearch.org: <https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://hr-search-ap i:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1202535> FREE, but no letter written. * GenealogyBank.com: <http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/ssdi/> FREE, but no letter written. * Ancestry.com: <http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=3693> FREE, with a link to write a letter in the Page Tools (upper left corner of the Search results) - "Request copy of original application." There is an interesting comment on the Ancestry page: "Why can't I see the Social Security Number? If the Social Security Number is not visible on the record index it is because Ancestry.com does not provide this number in the Social Security Death Index for any person that has passed away within the past 10 years." This is, I think, another recent change. ____________________________________________________________ LifeLock�� Official Site Identity Theft Can Happen to Anyone So Get Protection with LifeLock. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4ee77781c25dab646f1st04duc

Greetings! I'm emailing this Webinar notice for two reasons: 1. This can help you understand your DNA results or that of a family member; 2. I feel confident in recommending this Webinar as I know Elise personally, and I also know she is doing these for Family Tree DNA. Originally, she did them on her own, but is now doing them for FTDNA as she is so knowledgeable. It is easy to do a Webinar, if you are new to it all. Elise will give you any help you require. Get on her email list to find out when she does other presentations. Best wishes, Emily If you do not hear from me in a timely manner, just write again...I was buried in email. LOL Guild of One Name Study (GOONS) for Ogan: ogan@one-name.org http://writingyourmemories.blogspot.com/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgco2/speaker/EmilyAulicino.html http://genealem-geneticgenealogy.blogspot.com/ Northwest Regional Coordinator and Speaker for ISOGG (www.isogg.org) Administrator for twelve FTDNA DNA Projects ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elise Friedman" Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 8:43 PM Subject: [ISOGG] Genetic Genealogy Demystified webinars for December - starts December 13! > Relative Roots is pleased to announce our December webinar schedule! > > "Genetic Genealogy Demystified: Reading and Understanding Your Family Tree > DNA Results" is a 3-part series designed to help you get the most out of > your DNA testing experience. You can attend one, two or all three of the > webinars. > > Tuesday, December 13 > Part 1: Y-DNA > > Thursday, December 15 > Part 2: mtDNA > > Thursday, December 22 > Part 3: Family Finder > > > REGISTRATION > For complete details about these webinars and to register, please visit our > website at http://www.relativeroots.net/webinars/ > > > CAN'T ATTEND LIVE? ON-DEMAND RECORDINGS AVAILABLE! > Recordings of Relative Roots webinars are available for viewing on-demand to > accommodate those who can't attend the live sessions. Recordings become > available within 24 hours after each live webinar, and remain online for 7 > days following the live session. There are two ways to register for > on-demand access: > > 1) Pre-Register for On-Demand. Sign up as though you were going to attend > live, then within 24 hours after the webinar ends, you will receive an email > containing the link to the recording; > or > 2) Visit the Relative Roots website 24 hours after the live webinar to sign > up for on-demand. > > > SPECIAL OFFER FROM FAMILY TREE DNA! > Attendees of Relative Roots genetic genealogy webinars receive a > limited-time discount on select new test kits and upgrades at Family Tree > DNA. Full details about the discount are provided at the end of each live > webinar. > > > FUTURE WEBINAR ANNOUNCEMENTS > Learn about Relative Roots webinars as soon as they're scheduled! Join our > email announcements list, follow us on Facebook and/or follow us on Twitter: > > Email List - http://www.relativeroots.net/webinars/ > Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/RelativeRoots > Twitter - http://www.twitter.com/RelativeRoots >

Greetings! In the case you need a holiday gift or just want to get a relative to do a DNA test, I'm reposting the sale prices to you. If you are a Y-DNA tester, a 67 marker is very nice. Anything less than a 37 isn't very helpful for genealogy. Family Finder is a very nice price and gets you matches within 5-6 generations from the tester, anywhere on their pedigree chart If you are interested in the Family Finder test, it is also very helpful to have the oldest living person to test (parent, gr-parent) so you can go back 5-6 generations from them. Also, it is helpful to have first and second cousins do the FF test as you can then use matches between you and them to determine what line of your pedigree to search for a common ancestor. You can purchase a test to use later and it will keep nicely as long as you do not get it near heat. If lost, FTDNA does replace them. If you have questions, please email me. New Kits Current Group Price SALE PRICE Y-DNA 37 $149 $119 Y-DNA 67 $239 $199 mtFullSequence $299 $239 SuperDNA (Y-DNA67 and FMS) $518 $438 Family Finder $289 $199 Family Finder + mtPlus $438 $318 Family Finder + FMS $559 $439 Family Finder+ Y-DNA37 $438 $318 Comprehensive (FF + FMS + Y-67) $797 $627 Upgrades 12-25 Marker $49 $35 12-37 Marker $99 $69 12-67 Marker $189 $148 25-37 Marker $49 $35 25-67 Marker $148 $114 37-67 Marker $99 $79 Family Finder $289 $199 mtHVR1toMega $269 $229 mtHVR2toMega $239 $209 Orders must be placed and paid for by December 31, 2011 to receive this offer. (A credit card is considered payment at the time of pruchase.) Best wishes for a wonderful Holiday! Emily If you do not hear from me in a timely manner, just write again...I was buried in email. LOL Guild of One Name Study (GOONS) for Ogan: ogan@one-name.org http://writingyourmemories.blogspot.com/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgco2/speaker/EmilyAulicino.html http://genealem-geneticgenealogy.blogspot.com/ Northwest Regional Coordinator and Speaker for ISOGG (www.isogg.org) Administrator for twelve FTDNA DNA Projects

Hello Aspiring Writers, The Writers' Forum will meet on Saturday, December 10th, from 11:45 a.m. until 1:45 p.m. at the Genealogical Forum of Oregon. We meet the second Saturday of each month. Everyone is welcome, whether you have participated before or not. This is your chance to get started writing or improve your writing, whether you are writing for yourself or for others. We learn about good writing techniques -- write and read what we write to each other. Without exception, everyone who has participated in this group over the last seven years writes better than they did when they started. This year we are working with Roy Peter Clark's Writing Tools: 50 Essential Strategies for Every Writer published by Little, Brown and Company in 2006. Each year we work with a book, but this particular book has been the most helpful of any book we worked with. Now we are working more specifically on language and at this meeting we will be working with Tool 26 Workshop: "Use Dialogue as a Form of Action." Bring your lunch if you would like. Peggy ------------------------ Peggy Baldwin, MLS Family Passages LLC www.family-passages.com