Hello all, THIS TIME, I hope to include all the pertinent information about the subject meeting in one message. Pat Burling's computer seems to have transmitted some of it's bugs to my brain. The monthly membership meeting of the Genealogical Forum of Oregon will be held this coming Saturday, October 9, 2004, in the Forum Library. The reading area of the library will close at 1:45 PM for setup. The membership meeting will start promptly at 2:00 PM. The monthly lecture will follow the short business meeting. Gerry Lenzen will present American Land Records as the monthly lecture. This will include a general introduction plus several case studies. There are studies from states both east and west of the Ohio River. This river divides the type of records to be found in states on either side of the river. Gerry "The history of the family is as important as the history of the world." Adalbert Stifter, 1862. Material in this message is Copyrighted by: GERALD S. LENZEN 10411 SW 41ST AVE. PORTLAND, OR 97219-6984 PHONE: 503-244-4357 FAX: 503-245-4723

It's already time for another meeting of the Illinois Interest Group. We hope that you will be able to join us at the Forum's Higgins Room beginning at 9:30 a.m. and lasting until lunch time. The topic this month will be THE ILLINOIS STATE ARCHIVES LIBRARY with a report from someone who has just had the fun of being there. (And the joy of adding two generations too!) The speaker this month will be KRISTY, the long-lost Illinois researcher, who had both fun and success at the Archives just last week, will be hoping to see you and have a good "catch-up" session with you too. There are lots of materials available at the IL St. Archives and it was amazingly easy to use...once we found the building! It is tucked away cleverly. And it is a lovely old building that is filled with card files, microfilm, microfisch, some books, computers, and helpful staff. Heather, Hannah, and I had a good day there...come and hear all about it. Kristy and Doreen

FyI A few years ago I did research on all the James Bradley in your state extensive search with all county genealogy groups listed with land grants..........any one needing info on this subject feel free to call [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristy Gravlin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:01 AM Subject: [GFO] Saturday, October 9 -- Illinois Interest Meeting > It's already time for another meeting of the Illinois Interest Group. We > hope that you will be able to join us at the Forum's Higgins Room beginning > at 9:30 a.m. and lasting until lunch time. > > The topic this month will be THE ILLINOIS STATE ARCHIVES LIBRARY with a > report from someone who has just had the fun of being there. (And the joy of > adding two generations too!) > > The speaker this month will be KRISTY, the long-lost Illinois researcher, > who had both fun and success at the Archives just last week, will be hoping > to see you and have a good "catch-up" session with you too. > > There are lots of materials available at the IL St. Archives and it was > amazingly easy to use...once we found the building! It is tucked away > cleverly. And it is a lovely old building that is filled with card files, > microfilm, microfisch, some books, computers, and helpful staff. > > Heather, Hannah, and I had a good day there...come and hear all about it. > > Kristy > and Doreen > > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a message to [email protected] that > contains (in the body of the message) only the single word: unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

In the earlier note, I forgot to mention that the October membership meeting starts promptly at 2:00 PM. Gerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald S. Lenzen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:33 AM Subject: [GFO] October Membership Meeting > Pat Burling's computer developed another unwanted gremlin so I agreed to send notice of the October monthly membership meeting. > > The presentation after the business meeting will be "American Land Records" by Gerry Lenzen. > > Hope to see all of you there. > > Gerry > > "The history of the family is as important as the history of the world." Adalbert Stifter, 1862. > Material in this message is Copyrighted by: > GERALD S. LENZEN > 10411 SW 41ST AVE. > PORTLAND, OR 97219-6984 > PHONE: 503-244-4357 > FAX: 503-245-4723 > > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a message to [email protected] that > contains (in the body of the message) only the single word: unsubscribe > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > >

Pat Burling's computer developed another unwanted gremlin so I agreed to send notice of the October monthly membership meeting. The presentation after the business meeting will be "American Land Records" by Gerry Lenzen. Hope to see all of you there. Gerry "The history of the family is as important as the history of the world." Adalbert Stifter, 1862. Material in this message is Copyrighted by: GERALD S. LENZEN 10411 SW 41ST AVE. PORTLAND, OR 97219-6984 PHONE: 503-244-4357 FAX: 503-245-4723

Here is another address to pull up census records from the new Digital Archives: www.secstate.wa.gov/history/search.aspx Margaret Strueby ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 2:18 AM Subject: [GFO] Washington State Digital Archives Grand Opening > For any of you who may be searching in Washington, the following is from > their new "Digital Archives" front page. Having visited the site, I didn't find > any digitized records, but they do have quite a few indexes loaded. You might > find something new there - check it out at www.digitalarchives.wa.gov > > Julie Kidd > > =========================================== > Washington State Digital Archives Grand Opening > The much-anticipated grand opening of America's first state government > digital archives occurred on October 4, 2004. The opening gala event hosted > Washington State legislators, county officials, archivists from throughout the United > States, as well as a delegation of regional archivists from as far away as > China. Among the speakers at this prestigious event were Secretary of State Sam > Reed and Lew Bellardo, Deputy Archivist of the United States. > > The Digital Archives Archival Management System was also brought on-line that > day, with the electronic marriage records from Chelan, Snohomish and Spokane > counties — as well as the Historic Census and Naturalization records database — > web arrayed in an easy to user search interface > (www.digitalarchives.wa.gov). > > It is the mission of the digital archives to preserve and make accessible the > electronic records for both state and local government agencies in Washington > State. > =========================================== > > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a message to [email protected] that > contains (in the body of the message) only the single word: unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

For any of you who may be searching in Washington, the following is from their new "Digital Archives" front page. Having visited the site, I didn't find any digitized records, but they do have quite a few indexes loaded. You might find something new there - check it out at www.digitalarchives.wa.gov Julie Kidd =========================================== Washington State Digital Archives Grand Opening The much-anticipated grand opening of America's first state government digital archives occurred on October 4, 2004. The opening gala event hosted Washington State legislators, county officials, archivists from throughout the United States, as well as a delegation of regional archivists from as far away as China. Among the speakers at this prestigious event were Secretary of State Sam Reed and Lew Bellardo, Deputy Archivist of the United States. The Digital Archives Archival Management System was also brought on-line that day, with the electronic marriage records from Chelan, Snohomish and Spokane counties — as well as the Historic Census and Naturalization records database — web arrayed in an easy to user search interface (www.digitalarchives.wa.gov). It is the mission of the digital archives to preserve and make accessible the electronic records for both state and local government agencies in Washington State. ===========================================

Thank you very Nathan, I'll be waiting to see the pictures. I really appreciate this. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Nathan Haines Sr. To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [GFO] Rose City Cemetery Hi Mary, I took the pictures of your family grave at Rose City Cemetery yesterday on the way to work. I am afraid that I am not going to get time to download them out of my camera this morning. I have been too busy. I have to get ready to go to work again soon. I took several pictures from different angles and of the surrounding area. I will try to email you a pic of the gravestone tomorrow. Nathan --- Mary Houser <[email protected]> wrote: > I think digital is better and easier. Thanks > Nathan. Those will be a great addition to my > database. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nathan Haines Sr. > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 10:01 AM > Subject: Re: [GFO] Rose City Cemetery > > > Hi Mary, > I could stop by there on my way to work > tomorrow. > Do you like digital pics of graves ok or do you > prefer > photos of graves? > Nathan > > > --- Mary Houser <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Nathan > > > > I too am looking for people buried in Rose City > > Cemetery-Siegel Carey (aka Harry Carey) > d-02/09/1958 > > and his wife Rose Carey d-09/04/1961; and John > > Henry "Jack" Lehman d-09/17/1942 and Emily Lehmn > > d-12/11/1967. I've been hoping that I could get > to > > the cemetery since I'm only in Clackamas but > with a > > husband who is very ill it's hard to get > anywhere > > besides the hospital and store. > > > > Mary > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Nathan Haines Sr. > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 4:28 PM > > Subject: Re: [GFO] Rose City Cemetery > > > > > > Hi Barbara, > > I have been to Rose City Cemetery many, > many > > times. I know quite a number of people buried > > there. > > The cemetery office there is very kind and > helpful > > about telling people exactly where some is > buried > > there. Who are you looking for? > > Nathan > > > > > > --- [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > > Is anyone familiar with Rose City Cemetery? > I > > need > > > help finding someone. > > > My great grandmother's death cert. indicates > > that > > > she is buried there. > > > Thank you for any suggestions. > > > > > > Barbara Albert > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== > > > To unsubscribe, send a message to > > > [email protected] that > > > contains (in the body of the message) only > the > > > single word: unsubscribe > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names > including > > the > > > new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. > > Click > > > to learn more. > > > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe, send a message to > > [email protected] that > > contains (in the body of the message) only the > > single word: unsubscribe > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names > including > > the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. > Click > > to learn more. > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a message to > [email protected] that > contains (in the body of the message) only the > single word: unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including > the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send a message to [email protected] that contains (in the body of the message) only the single word: unsubscribe ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hi Barbara, I took the pictures of your family graves at Rose City Cemetery yesterday on the way to work. I am afraid that I am not going to get time to download them out of my camera this morning. I have been too busy. I have to get ready to go to work again soon. I took several pictures from different angles and of the surrounding area. I will try to email you a pic of the gravestone tomorrow. Josephine does not have a stone but is buried by what the cemetery office says are relatives, who have stones. I took pics of those. Do the names West, Pratt and Petersen mean anything to you? Nathan --- [email protected] wrote: > > Nathan > > I sent the first posting to both the Forum and > Oregon Roots lists. I do > have Josephine's death certificate but I have seen a > couple of "official" > documents that list her maiden name and they're > different. I don't > really trust the "informants", the family members > who gave that information. > > Many people replied about Rose City Cemetery the > gist of which was that > they have very good records and are very nice. That > means that I > probably won't need list people's help finding her > grave the next time > I'm in Portland (if indeed she is buried at Rose > City as is indicated on > her death cert). > > Thanks for your concern. > > Barbara > > >

Hi Mary, I took the pictures of your family grave at Rose City Cemetery yesterday on the way to work. I am afraid that I am not going to get time to download them out of my camera this morning. I have been too busy. I have to get ready to go to work again soon. I took several pictures from different angles and of the surrounding area. I will try to email you a pic of the gravestone tomorrow. Nathan --- Mary Houser <[email protected]> wrote: > I think digital is better and easier. Thanks > Nathan. Those will be a great addition to my > database. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nathan Haines Sr. > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 10:01 AM > Subject: Re: [GFO] Rose City Cemetery > > > Hi Mary, > I could stop by there on my way to work > tomorrow. > Do you like digital pics of graves ok or do you > prefer > photos of graves? > Nathan > > > --- Mary Houser <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Nathan > > > > I too am looking for people buried in Rose City > > Cemetery-Siegel Carey (aka Harry Carey) > d-02/09/1958 > > and his wife Rose Carey d-09/04/1961; and John > > Henry "Jack" Lehman d-09/17/1942 and Emily Lehmn > > d-12/11/1967. I've been hoping that I could get > to > > the cemetery since I'm only in Clackamas but > with a > > husband who is very ill it's hard to get > anywhere > > besides the hospital and store. > > > > Mary > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Nathan Haines Sr. > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 4:28 PM > > Subject: Re: [GFO] Rose City Cemetery > > > > > > Hi Barbara, > > I have been to Rose City Cemetery many, > many > > times. I know quite a number of people buried > > there. > > The cemetery office there is very kind and > helpful > > about telling people exactly where some is > buried > > there. Who are you looking for? > > Nathan > > > > > > --- [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > > Is anyone familiar with Rose City Cemetery? > I > > need > > > help finding someone. > > > My great grandmother's death cert. indicates > > that > > > she is buried there. > > > Thank you for any suggestions. > > > > > > Barbara Albert > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== > > > To unsubscribe, send a message to > > > [email protected] that > > > contains (in the body of the message) only > the > > > single word: unsubscribe > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names > including > > the > > > new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. > > Click > > > to learn more. > > > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe, send a message to > > [email protected] that > > contains (in the body of the message) only the > > single word: unsubscribe > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names > including > > the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. > Click > > to learn more. > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a message to > [email protected] that > contains (in the body of the message) only the > single word: unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including > the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Thanks to all of you who so kindly replied to my posting. I haven't done much cemetery hunting except in small cemeteries in the midwest where there is no office. I understand from being on genealogy e-mail lists for some time that even when there is an office, there might not be complete records or the staff may be less than cooperative. I'm glad that in the case of Rose City my fears seem groundless. Indeed I am in San Francisco but am planning a trip this fall specifically to visit all the graveyards, mausoleums and crematoriums that house my relatives. The person I'm looking for is Josephine Wagnon (I'm still not clear on her maiden name) and she's my only remaining brick wall for that generation. I'd sure like to ask her a few questions. Thanks again, Barbara

I checked the white pages and there are 250 Wagnon's listed - no - Josephine. You may have more info. Use this link to do a search: http://www.theultimates.com/white/ I use this one all the time as it does 6 searches in all the white pages. Good luck. Flo ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 3:17 PM Subject: [GFO] Rose City Cemetery Thanks to all of you who so kindly replied to my posting. I haven't done much cemetery hunting except in small cemeteries in the midwest where there is no office. I understand from being on genealogy e-mail lists for some time that even when there is an office, there might not be complete records or the staff may be less than cooperative. I'm glad that in the case of Rose City my fears seem groundless. Indeed I am in San Francisco but am planning a trip this fall specifically to visit all the graveyards, mausoleums and crematoriums that house my relatives. The person I'm looking for is Josephine Wagnon (I'm still not clear on her maiden name) and she's my only remaining brick wall for that generation. I'd sure like to ask her a few questions. Thanks again, Barbara ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send a message to [email protected] that contains (in the body of the message) only the single word: unsubscribe ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I think digital is better and easier. Thanks Nathan. Those will be a great addition to my database. ----- Original Message ----- From: Nathan Haines Sr. To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [GFO] Rose City Cemetery Hi Mary, I could stop by there on my way to work tomorrow. Do you like digital pics of graves ok or do you prefer photos of graves? Nathan --- Mary Houser <[email protected]> wrote: > Nathan > > I too am looking for people buried in Rose City > Cemetery-Siegel Carey (aka Harry Carey) d-02/09/1958 > and his wife Rose Carey d-09/04/1961; and John > Henry "Jack" Lehman d-09/17/1942 and Emily Lehmn > d-12/11/1967. I've been hoping that I could get to > the cemetery since I'm only in Clackamas but with a > husband who is very ill it's hard to get anywhere > besides the hospital and store. > > Mary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nathan Haines Sr. > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 4:28 PM > Subject: Re: [GFO] Rose City Cemetery > > > Hi Barbara, > I have been to Rose City Cemetery many, many > times. I know quite a number of people buried > there. > The cemetery office there is very kind and helpful > about telling people exactly where some is buried > there. Who are you looking for? > Nathan > > > --- [email protected] wrote: > > > > > Is anyone familiar with Rose City Cemetery? I > need > > help finding someone. > > My great grandmother's death cert. indicates > that > > she is buried there. > > Thank you for any suggestions. > > > > Barbara Albert > > > > > > > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe, send a message to > > [email protected] that > > contains (in the body of the message) only the > > single word: unsubscribe > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including > the > > new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. > Click > > to learn more. > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a message to > [email protected] that > contains (in the body of the message) only the > single word: unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including > the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send a message to [email protected] that contains (in the body of the message) only the single word: unsubscribe ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hi Mary, I could stop by there on my way to work tomorrow. Do you like digital pics of graves ok or do you prefer photos of graves? Nathan --- Mary Houser <[email protected]> wrote: > Nathan > > I too am looking for people buried in Rose City > Cemetery-Siegel Carey (aka Harry Carey) d-02/09/1958 > and his wife Rose Carey d-09/04/1961; and John > Henry "Jack" Lehman d-09/17/1942 and Emily Lehmn > d-12/11/1967. I've been hoping that I could get to > the cemetery since I'm only in Clackamas but with a > husband who is very ill it's hard to get anywhere > besides the hospital and store. > > Mary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nathan Haines Sr. > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 4:28 PM > Subject: Re: [GFO] Rose City Cemetery > > > Hi Barbara, > I have been to Rose City Cemetery many, many > times. I know quite a number of people buried > there. > The cemetery office there is very kind and helpful > about telling people exactly where some is buried > there. Who are you looking for? > Nathan > > > --- [email protected] wrote: > > > > > Is anyone familiar with Rose City Cemetery? I > need > > help finding someone. > > My great grandmother's death cert. indicates > that > > she is buried there. > > Thank you for any suggestions. > > > > Barbara Albert > > > > > > > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe, send a message to > > [email protected] that > > contains (in the body of the message) only the > > single word: unsubscribe > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including > the > > new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. > Click > > to learn more. > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a message to > [email protected] that > contains (in the body of the message) only the > single word: unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including > the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Nathan I too am looking for people buried in Rose City Cemetery-Siegel Carey (aka Harry Carey) d-02/09/1958 and his wife Rose Carey d-09/04/1961; and John Henry "Jack" Lehman d-09/17/1942 and Emily Lehmn d-12/11/1967. I've been hoping that I could get to the cemetery since I'm only in Clackamas but with a husband who is very ill it's hard to get anywhere besides the hospital and store. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Nathan Haines Sr. To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [GFO] Rose City Cemetery Hi Barbara, I have been to Rose City Cemetery many, many times. I know quite a number of people buried there. The cemetery office there is very kind and helpful about telling people exactly where some is buried there. Who are you looking for? Nathan --- [email protected] wrote: > > Is anyone familiar with Rose City Cemetery? I need > help finding someone. > My great grandmother's death cert. indicates that > she is buried there. > Thank you for any suggestions. > > Barbara Albert > > > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a message to > [email protected] that > contains (in the body of the message) only the > single word: unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the > new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send a message to [email protected] that contains (in the body of the message) only the single word: unsubscribe ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

--- [email protected] wrote: Hi Nathan, Did you see the message I posted to the list with your Cassady in the census? Daraleen Hi Daraleen, Yes I did. You posted this following message= The Ancestry 1870 census index shows a Mary Cassady, 2, and Eveline Cassady, 1, in the household of Mary Delora, 45, Indian, b Wash Territory living in Portland. Five houses away is Eliza Cassady, 22, b Ireland. Whether there is a relationship, I don't know. Hope this helps. Daraleen I am very sorry for not responding about this to you. I am so dad blamed busy all the time I have a hard time keeping up sometimes and this message of yours kind of slipped through the cracks I think? :-] Yes I did see this in the census before. This happens to be the closest thing that I can find to my Mary Cassady Arnspiger that I have ever been able to find. This Mary is the right age and born in OR. What you noticed that I failed to notice however is there was an Eliza Cassady down the page a ways. That was very smart of you to see that. I feel bad that I did not catch that myself. I discovered that Mary Cassady Arnspiger remarried to a Charles M Lutz in Vanc, WA about a year and a half after her husband Miles Arnspiger died in 1916. I got the index entry to that and it gave Mary's parents names in it. It listed her parents as Jim Cassady and Elizabeth Emmerson. Elizabeth Emmerson Cassady was listed in that Vanc marriage record as born in Iowa! So, I think you have found Mary's mother since we all know that a common nickname for Elizabeth is Eliza, right? Now I can only make guesses as to why Mary, who apparently had a sister Eveline listed on the census with her, was living with this Celia DeLora and her mother was living somewhere else. And, why Mary's father is not listed. And, there are several people listed on this census page with an occupation as "Doubtful"!! What the world kind of occupation is "Doubtful" anyway?? I could assume that either Mary's father Jim died, or he left the family, since Eilza is by herself on the census and probably poor and trying to earn a living with no husband to support her. This Celia Delora was probably taking care of Eliza's kids to help Mary out in her hard time. Maybe I should search marriage indexes to see if I can find an Eliza Cassady getting remarried after 1870 and maybe I will find Mary's mother? Thank you for your thoughtful observation you made Daraleen. Nice going. Nathan

Is anyone familiar with Rose City Cemetery? I need help finding someone. My great grandmother's death cert. indicates that she is buried there. Thank you for any suggestions. Barbara Albert

I have actually gone to the cemetery, it's quite large. If you go to the office they were very helpful and looked up the information for me. Sometimes they even have the obituary attached. Shirley W194

Sam, Frank Bode is not in the OR Death Index but he is listed in the City of Portland death index. He died in 1913 in Portland. I am going to check the paper to see if he has an obit and see if it mentions anything about Gravel hill. Nathan --- Sam Butler <[email protected]> wrote: > The Morning Oregonian - 25 September 1899 page 16 > East Side Building Notes > > The Farm House of Frank Bode on Gravel hill ... is > well along toward completion. It is to take the > place > of the cottage recently destroyed by fire in that > neighborhood. > > - a look at the Portland City Directory around that > period shows a Frank Bode living at 40 E 12th. This > would be near the current site of the intersection > of > Burnside and 12th and Sandy. Coming up from the > river > all of these roads do come up a small hill. > > By 1899 it would be well developed and settled, in > 1868 it would not have been. the word hill was not > capitalized in the article. > > --- "Nathan Haines Sr." <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > Has anyone ever heard of Gravel Hill? I have > an > > obit for a Mary Cassidy Arnspiger from the > Oregonian > > in 1936 and it says she was born in a log cabin on > > Gravel Hill here in 1868. I am presuming that here > > means Portland or at least near Portland. > > Thanks, > > Nathan > > > > > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe, send a message to > > [email protected] that > > contains (in the body of the message) only the > > single word: unsubscribe > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including > the > > new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > > to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > http://vote.yahoo.com > > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a message to > [email protected] that > contains (in the body of the message) only the > single word: unsubscribe > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the > new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Sam, Wow! This is pretty interesting. Who ever would have thunk it?! I can't believe you found this! This looks like you may really have something. I will look into this a bit closer. Thank you much. Nathan --- Sam Butler <[email protected]> wrote: > The Morning Oregonian - 25 September 1899 page 16 > East Side Building Notes > > The Farm House of Frank Bode on Gravel hill ... is > well along toward completion. It is to take the > place > of the cottage recently destroyed by fire in that > neighborhood. > > - a look at the Portland City Directory around that > period shows a Frank Bode living at 40 E 12th. This > would be near the current site of the intersection > of > Burnside and 12th and Sandy. Coming up from the > river > all of these roads do come up a small hill. > > By 1899 it would be well developed and settled, in > 1868 it would not have been. the word hill was not > capitalized in the article. > > --- "Nathan Haines Sr." <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > Has anyone ever heard of Gravel Hill? I have > an > > obit for a Mary Cassidy Arnspiger from the > Oregonian > > in 1936 and it says she was born in a log cabin on > > Gravel Hill here in 1868. I am presuming that here > > means Portland or at least near Portland. > > Thanks, > > Nathan > > > > > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe, send a message to > > [email protected] that > > contains (in the body of the message) only the > > single word: unsubscribe > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including > the > > new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > > to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > http://vote.yahoo.com >