Does anyone know where I can find a 1922 obituary for a young man who died in Multnomah Co.....probably in Gresham. I don't know where he is buried. His name was Norbert Anderson and he died 18 Nov 1922. Thanks, Carole

I am researching some information I received on Samuel W. Best's death. Bend Bulletin Mon. 8 Apr 1918 He was found dead on Tumalo Hill. Would this be the hill south of Tumalo? It also states that he resided in KENWOOD in the Wen. 10 April 1918 Bend Bulletin. Seems the poor man was knocked form his seat on the wagon load of lumber when the binder on the load broke. Oregon Geographic Names by McArthur does not list this by gone community. Can anyone tell me where this might have been? Thank you, Janice M. Healy Co-compiler of "Oregon Burial Site Guide" Aloha, Oregon U.S.A. Mailto:[email protected] "Oregon Burial Site Guide" http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/obsg.html Plan ahead for the FGS Conference in Salt Lake City Sept 7 thru 10 2005 Public service site http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ancestors.html

Hi Janice, Thank you for the reply. I think you have helped me solve the KRAEFT mystery. A few years ago, I was visiting my grandmother. She mentioned a box of family memorabilia upstairs that did not belong to our family. She said that an elderly bachelor had died some years ago in Vernonia. Some women in the community went into the house to clean it out after his death. They saved his family memorabilia, but did not know of any relatives he might have in the area. For some reason, they asked my grandparents to store the box of memorabilia for them until they could make contact with his family. The women never came back to get the box. I went upstairs and found the box of which she spoke. Going on the names of people on pictures and papers in the box, I searched the Portland phone book and found one woman in Oregon City by the same last name. I called her and determined that she was a family member. She came to my house and picked up the box of memorabilia. I don't remember the surname related to that box, but it sounds to me as though the bachelor was Elmer Kraeft and the woman in Oregon City was Evelyn Kraeft. Apparently, this picture became separated from the box. Thanks again, Kena Jacobs

The GFO Writers' Forum meets the second Monday of each month. Our next meeting is this coming Monday, January 10th, from 7 to 9 pm at the GFO Library. Come and share your writing or get inspired to write, if you find yourself stuck in neutral! Peggy Baldwin 503-281-0250

Hi everyone, I recently came upon a pair of framed family photographs that were taken in either 1897 or 1898. They belonged to my grandparents, Virgil & Zada (DUSTIN) SNOOK, who resided in Vernonia, OR, from 1935 to 2003. One picture shows a baby, Inez Norma KRAEFT, age 4 months, according to the writing on the back. The other picture is unlabeled, but it appears to be that of an older sibling (a girl?) about 2 years of age. She is shown standing on a chair, resting her head on her hand as though she may be ill. The studio stamp on both pictures is Davies, NW corner of 3rd & Morrison, Portland, OR. The frame is an unusual dual frame with a patent date of 1891. Inez is listed in the census records as a daughter of John B. & May C. KRAEFT. According to the census records, the KRAEFT family lived in Seaside in 1910. Inez was 13 years of age at that time. The census lists Inez as the oldest child, and it indicates that one of May's children is deceased. The years of marriage leave room for a sibling older than Inez who has expired. In 1920, the KRAEFT's lived in Goble, Columbia Co., OR. The census record indicates that John was German, as were May's parents. Does anyone in the GFO have a connection with this family? I don't know of any German ancestors of either Virgil or Zada SNOOK, so I doubt that I am related to the family. However, I would like to determine what connection my family may have had to the KRAEFT's. Kena Jacobs

You are a Detective of History, of sorts, maybe this is for you: HISTORY DETECTIVES Wants You! If you think your ancestors may have played a key role in a history-making event, HISTORY DETECTIVES wants to help you piece the puzzle together. You could appear on PBS's hit series this summer! Submit your mystery at www.pbs.org/historydetectives

Illinois and the War of 1812 While the State of Illinois did not yet exist officially during the War of 1812, many of those who served in the War eventually had some sort of connection with our state. Things were happening there... before, during, and after the War. There were only two counties in the area that would become Illinois: St Clair and Randolph covered the state between them. The capital city of the Territory was at Kaskaskia. Chicago was then known as Fort Dearborn ... and you can still walk the line of march ... from the location of the fort to the point of attack, tho you won't see the swampy prairie that was there then. Once the war was over in 1815, Illinois saw many new residents who came to settle the southern Illinois area. Five more counties were created. An Indian attack in Southern Illinois was the ignition point for the Creek War in that time frame. Bounty lands were given out to veterans who had served in the war. Some early residents were known for their heroic actions. And more veterans eventually moved to Illinois. If you have ancestors who were involved in the War of 1812, you will want to learn about their possible activities and their probable life-styles. Our Military Expert ... Duane Funk ... will be the speaker for the day. If you know Duane, you will know that he will share not only the "facts" of the events but information about how and why that the military history would do it that way. Join Duane and anyone interested in the War of 1812 on Saturday, January 8th from 9:30 a.m. to 11:30 a.m. in the Higgins Room at the GFO in Portland. Bring a friend ... the price is right ... and start our year off right! Questions? Comments? Write to Kristy at [email protected]

A New Year and a New beginning...so we welcome all of you to the Genealogical Forum of Oregon meeting on January 8, 2005 at the Forum library. Yes, we do need to support our organization and come. Besides a really great program with Byron on Digital Photography, it is important we all understand the financial picture of our very wonderful organization. I hope all of you out there will respond. Your vote is important. I for one, received a super neat Digital camera for Christmas - and now I want to make it a big part of my stories, and genealogical endeavors. For me, it takes a bit of learning - anyway, I hope all of you will come and enjoy the program, BUT most of all support your very well organized and structured Society. Many faithful have worked years to make this an organization we can be proud of and I for one, think we should respond by supporting them. So, come January 8th, to the general meeting at 2 pm. at the Genealogical Forum library, and enjoy what many have prepared for you - a really super program.

GFO Members PLEASE don’t forget the monthly membership meeting on Saturday, 8 January and your opportunity to vote on the proposed budget for this fiscal year. The speaker for the day is I, and the topic was posted as “Digital Photography: How to use it effectively in your genealogical research”. While telling you the story of my recent research trip to a rather remote area of southeast Oklahoma, where three generations of my paternal ancestors hung out and where the county courthouse had lots of records but little provisions for making copies, I hope to answerer the following questions and more: Of what use is a digital camera in genealogy? Is it just another unnecessary expense? What kind of camera would I need anyway? What features do I want? Do I need more than just the camera? How much money are we talking about? This will hopefully be a good introduction for a more detailed class I will be giving at The Forum in March for those who have made the decision to make use of their digital camera. EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, we need you there to vote for passage of the annual budget. The Forum has not officially approved a budget in strict accordance with the bylaws for a number of years. The current Board would like to change that trend. The budget for this fiscal year, which was tentatively approved by the Board in accordance with the bylaws, is presented at the front of the December issue of “The Bulletin”. Final approval of the budget requires a vote of the general membership, with a minimum of 40 members required for a quorum. So we need you there! We will do the voting first, and then you can get up and leave if you don’t want the information on the uses of digital cameras. If you can not make the meeting, perhaps you could send an email to the GFO Secretary, Cindy Webb at [email protected], with your vote regarding passage of the FY05 Budget as approved by the Board of Directors. I an not sure a this point, if such votes can be counted or not, but we can determine that later. The best way to make your vote count is to be there Saturday! See you there. Byron Blankenship GFO, Co-Treasurer -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 1/3/2005

>YES, YES, YES....CHERRY TWP., SULLIVAN CO., PA...THAT'S THE HOME OF >MY BARTHCH family! Anybody named BARTCH or STEINER. John George >BARTCH m. Maria Magdalena STEINER and they had a bunch of Bartch's; >John Frederick, Elizabeth, Henry Frederick, Gottlieb, Mary Margaret, >Elizabeth (again); Mary Magdalena, Barbara, Mary Ann Bartch (my >gg-grandma) Benjamin Franklin, William S. and George Washington >Bartch. The name was occasionally spelled Barge.. (like on the 1850 >census) > >Thanks so much for your offer... >Doneva Shepard in Gresham Hi Doneva, I need to find my scanner for you as it is somewhere under all this paper. ;^) In a quick look through I so far have found 8 pages. Now this may cost you a bit of info if you have it. John Bartch married Caroline Moyer and had a bunch of kids. Can you tell me anything about the MOYER family? MOYER'S and PERSUN'S and THRASHER'S intermarried all of Cherry Twp. I am looking for info on the MOYER'S in particular. Hannah Moyer born 17 Aug 1832 died 31 Dec 1908, Father Jacob Moyer, Mother Sallie Koch Per her death certificate. The family always said her father was George born about 1794; Mother Polly born about 1800. So far I have had no luck. She married Elias Persun who came out to Washington and died in the woods chasing the big trees. All born in PA but where and to who? Elias Persun I know who his parents were, they are buried in Cherry Twp. in the Thrasher cemetery and came from New Jersey. If any one else out here that can shed some light on this one I would love to hear from you. Happy New Year Janice M. Healy Co-compiler of "Oregon Burial Site Guide" Aloha, Oregon U.S.A. Mailto:[email protected] "Oregon Burial Site Guide" http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/obsg.html Plan ahead for the FGS Conference in Salt Lake City Sept 7 thru 10 2005 Public service site http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ancestors.html

Are you still looking for a New Year's resolution? Maybe you want to think about volunteering at the Forum? It is a great way to learn the library, improve your research skills and meet some nice folks who are also interested in genealogy. Please feel free to contact me and I will try and put you in touch with the appropriate person. Jan, R-334 [email protected]

>>>Tring to figure out why I can not get subscribed to >>>rootsweb.............Whats up? >>>Marsha Bradley Luthy > >Marsha, > >You ~are~ subscribed....there just hasn't been any traffic for a >while. Evidently everyone is too busy with the holidays. > >Carole I was wondering myself if the list was down and out as I haven't seen anything for over a week. Is any one wanting info for Cherry Twp. Sullivan Co. PA? I was sent a nice book on the history of the above, written in 1903 and reprinted in 2001 It is 68 pages and has a lot of names but no index. So if you are looking for someone between about 1850 to 1900 I will be happy to check for you. Happy New Year Every one, Janice M. Healy Co-compiler of "Oregon Burial Site Guide" Aloha, Oregon U.S.A. Mailto:[email protected] "Oregon Burial Site Guide" http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/obsg.html Plan ahead for the FGS Conference in Salt Lake City Sept 7 thru 10 2005 Public service site http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ancestors.html

>> Tring to figure out why I can not get subscribed to >> rootsweb.............Whats up? >>Marsha Bradley Luthy Marsha, You ~are~ subscribed....there just hasn't been any traffic for a while. Evidently everyone is too busy with the holidays. Carole > To unsubscribe, send a message to [email protected] that > contains (in the body of the message) only the single word: unsubscribe

Tring to figure out why I can not get subscribed to rootsweb.............Whats up? I have been for years now cannt get on ???? Marsha Bradley Luthy [email protected]

well if you were my garndmother didn't matter she gave them what she wanted. She kept getting younger in census records.

Sorry, I forgot to include this for 1930: 5) NAME of each person whose place of abode on April 1, 1930, was in this family. Enter surname first, then the given name and middle initial, if any. Include every person living on April 1, 1930. Omit children born since April 1, 1930. =================== Thanks, these are funny stories. In 1930, the "rules" were: PERSONAL DESCRIPTION 11) Sex 12) Color or race 13) Age at last birthday <<=== (I assume as of the date of the inquiry...) 14) Marital condition 15) Age at first marriage At least, I've found the answers to be DURING the year of the Census, not as of the FIRST of the year. E.g., a relative died during 1930 before the Census taker arrived, and he was not listed. Dave Witthans From: Carole Hammond Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [GFO] census question > well if you were my garndmother didn't matter she gave them what she > wanted. > She kept getting younger in census records. I actually had one who got older...and her husband got younger. She was trying to even out their ages...he was a lot older. Another gr-grandma was 20 yrs older than her last husband and she didn't tell the truth until she was 80 yrs old. She had ceased to care. I'm trying to nail down one of them now. ;o)

Thanks, these are funny stories. In 1930, the "rules" were: PERSONAL DESCRIPTION 11) Sex 12) Color or race 13) Age at last birthday <<=== (I assume as of the date of the inquiry...) 14) Marital condition 15) Age at first marriage At least, I've found the answers to be DURING the year of the Census, not as of the FIRST of the year. E.g., a relative died during 1930 before the Census taker arrived, and he was not listed. Dave Witthans From: Carole Hammond Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [GFO] census question > well if you were my garndmother didn't matter she gave them what she > wanted. > She kept getting younger in census records. I actually had one who got older...and her husband got younger. She was trying to even out their ages...he was a lot older. Another gr-grandma was 20 yrs older than her last husband and she didn't tell the truth until she was 80 yrs old. She had ceased to care. I'm trying to nail down one of them now. ;o)

> well if you were my garndmother didn't matter she gave them what she > wanted. > She kept getting younger in census records. I actually had one who got older...and her husband got younger. She was trying to even out their ages...he was a lot older. Another gr-grandma was 20 yrs older than her last husband and she didn't tell the truth until she was 80 yrs old. She had ceased to care. I'm trying to nail down one of them now. ;o)

When a household was enumerated, was the age of a person supposed to be as of a certain date...such as June 1st or Jan 1st? Or was it supposed to be as of the actual date the census taker visited? It seems that I have known the answer to this in the past but the jingle bells have forced it out of my mind. Thanks, and Happy Holidays to all! Carole

My mother was "Baby Lincoln" for six months and, apparently, was the only one of eight with such a lengthy Baby period. The story I always heard was that it was caused by a battle over what her name would be...and for whom she would be named. She ended up Lydea (G-Gma) and Rebecca (Gma) ... and she often wished for a "prettier" name too. This almost happened to me in 1941 until my mother named me for a woman in the newspaper at the very last moment. Bettye