Nathan, Have you tried the funeral directors in the area? They may have access to the different names that the cemeteries in the area were once called. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Haines Sr." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 10:57 AM Subject: [GFO] Macksburg Cemetery location? > Hi all, > In my last message I indicated that I tracked down > the Granddaughter of the family member that was buried > in the "Macksburg Cemetery" that I have been looking > for. I called her this morning and had a very > wonderful conversation with her. She is a really nice > person. She said that her Grandparents are buried in > the Zion Cemetery in Canby! She said she has never > heard of a Macksburg Cemetery either. > Now I am going to do a little bit more research to > see if I can determine if Zion Cemetery was ever > referred to as the Macksburg Cemetery ever before in > the past or if there is some other reason for this. > Maybe a few people thought of it as the Macksburg > Cemetery because that was where people who died in > Macksburg were taken for burial? Who knows? That would > be one guess. It may be that someone misinformed the > Canby newspaper, more then once, as to where some one > was going to be buried too? > Anyway, that is that mystery solved, for the most > part anyway. It appears that at least a few people > called the Zion Cemetery the Macksburg Cemetery. > I will also contact the Zion Cemetery to see if > the custodial person there has ever heard of it being > called the Macksburg Cemetery. > Nathan > > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a message to [email protected] that > contains (in the body of the message) only the single word: unsubscribe > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Oregon Geographic Names 6th Ed. by Lew McArthur Pg 528 Macksburg Clackamas Co. Macksburg is about five miles east of Canby. The little community was named for the Mack family, well know in the locality. Macksburg post office was established Mar 6 1884, with Geo. H. McPherson first postmaster and was discontinued in Sept 1903. Pg 134-135 Canby, Clackamas Co. Canby was named for Major-General Edward R. S. Canby, commander of the Department of the Columbia, who was killed by Modoc Indians on Apr. 11, 1873, at a peace parley not far from the California-Oregon line south of what is now Klamath Falls...... .....no date was given for time this community was started. My guess on the name is either the paper messed up or that like you suggested that folks from Macksburg were commonly buried at Zion Memorial Cemetery it was probably the closest one for the general public. Natan it will be interesting to see what the death cert has to say for place of burial. Janice M. Healy Co-compiler of "Oregon Burial Site Guide" Aloha, Oregon U.S.A. Mailto:[email protected] "Oregon Burial Site Guide" http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/obsg.html Plan ahead for the following conferences: NGS Conference 1-4 June 2005, Nashville Tennessee FGS Conference 9-10 Sept 2005, Salt Lake City Public service site http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ancestors.html

Ok Nathan, Zion Memorial in the old DAR list these for you Gelbrich Carl H. b 1871 - d 1931 Margaret L b 1869 - d 19---- Edith b 1896 - d 1922 Ruth M. b 1908 - d 1924 Glad you found out which cemetery I will be making note of this in the file so if it shows up again we will know. Thanks Janice Janice M. Healy Co-compiler of "Oregon Burial Site Guide" Aloha, Oregon U.S.A. Mailto:[email protected] "Oregon Burial Site Guide" http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/obsg.html Plan ahead for the following conferences: NGS Conference 1-4 June 2005, Nashville Tennessee FGS Conference 9-10 Sept 2005, Salt Lake City Public service site http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ancestors.html

Hi all, In my last message I indicated that I tracked down the Granddaughter of the family member that was buried in the "Macksburg Cemetery" that I have been looking for. I called her this morning and had a very wonderful conversation with her. She is a really nice person. She said that her Grandparents are buried in the Zion Cemetery in Canby! She said she has never heard of a Macksburg Cemetery either. Now I am going to do a little bit more research to see if I can determine if Zion Cemetery was ever referred to as the Macksburg Cemetery ever before in the past or if there is some other reason for this. Maybe a few people thought of it as the Macksburg Cemetery because that was where people who died in Macksburg were taken for burial? Who knows? That would be one guess. It may be that someone misinformed the Canby newspaper, more then once, as to where some one was going to be buried too? Anyway, that is that mystery solved, for the most part anyway. It appears that at least a few people called the Zion Cemetery the Macksburg Cemetery. I will also contact the Zion Cemetery to see if the custodial person there has ever heard of it being called the Macksburg Cemetery. Nathan

Yes, I'm late again with this notice. But, the Round Table will be meeting Monday night, March 28th, at 6:30 pm in the Forum Library. Bring your questions, research blocks, or your helpful advice to share with others. Julie Kidd

Everyone might want to be careful about posting information of this sort to the list. Because it is archived, it is available for anyone to see. And this includes names, birthdates, addresses, and mother's maiden names. Not the kind of info you really want floating around, available to all. Please be careful to not post information about living people, even if you have their permission to do so. Julie Kidd List Master > > > Though you might like this > > Modified Register for John GRIBBLE >

In a message dated 3/27/2005 8:48:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I also looked for and never found the transition map...or whatever you want > > to call it... of the renumbering of Portland streets that took place about > +/-1934. > > I was told that the new maps were in a copy of of the Portland City > directory....I thought the 1934 issue but I never found it. Is there any > way that they could be copied and made available for researchers? It > certainly would be a boon. > > Carole Carole -- A few years ago, I photocopied the book that from the Portland Public Library. Sam Butler is working on inputting that into a database, something I never got around to. And it is a book, not a map. I'm not sure what his status on the project is, but he still has the copies. Because I do the Multnomah County GenWeb page, I get requests every now and then for the converted address, and I forward them to Sam who is always kind enough to look them up for me. The ordinance changing the numbers was signed in 1931, and the 1932 city directory lists some of the changes, but not all (they were in the middle of the renumbering). By the next directory, the changes had all been made, and were not listed. But, using the reverse directory you can usually find the new number. But, like I said, it's being worked on. I'm not sure what the final outcome will be, how it will be available. Julie

The Oregon Historical Society has the transition books and maps. They are very helpful. My great grandparents had at least three different address at the same home over the years. Sue

Hi, The main downtown library has a copy also. Nathan --- [email protected] wrote: > The Oregon Historical Society has the transition > books and maps. They are > very helpful. > My great grandparents had at least three different > address at the same home > over the years. > Sue > > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a message to > [email protected] that > contains (in the body of the message) only the > single word: unsubscribe > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about > your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the > last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hi all, The search goes on. In all my research today I finally came up with a "brilliant idea". I managed to find an address and phone number to a Granddaughter of this Gelbrich I am trying to find in the "Macksburg Cemetery". WooHoo! I don't want to get my hopes up too high yet but I am willing to put my money on the idea that she will probably know where her Grandfather is buried and FINALLY solve the mystery of where this cemetery is! It is too late right now but I am going to try calling her tomorrow. Stay tuned for the next exciting episode in this adventure. :-] Nathan

I also looked for and never found the transition map...or whatever you want to call it... of the renumbering of Portland streets that took place about +/-1934. I was told that the new maps were in a copy of of the Portland City directory....I thought the 1934 issue but I never found it. Is there any way that they could be copied and made available for researchers? It certainly would be a boon. Carole

Hi Marsha, Thanks for the offer but I think somebody else already beat you to it on telling me who is buried in Gribble Cemetery. I am really only interested in finding the ultimate answer to my question and that being where the world is "Macksburg Cemetery"? If your list includes the Gelbrichs then that will answer my question or if you have any kind of reference that Gribble Cemetery used to be called Macksburg Cemetery then that would be a great help to me. I don't really need to know all the people buried there. I am just trying to figure out if one of the little cemeteries out there used to be called Macksburg Cemetery and is called something else now or if there is another little cemetery out there that nobody knows about that is the REAL Macksburg Cemetery. I found a web site today for the Macksburg Lutheran Church and emailed them and asked them for info on this subject and am wating to hear back from them. I went to all 12 years of school in Canby and have heard the name Fish many times but I do not recollect ever meeting any of the Fish family. Nathan --- Marsha Bradley-Luthy <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi All > I am a Decendant of Walter Fish and Nancy Roxanna > (Leabo)Fish. They are > burried in Gribble Cemetery I have a > Listing of who is burried there. If this would help > you and since it is a > family cemetery I have information on most > burried there if you need info let me know. > Glad to help. > Marsha Bradley Luthy > [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nathan Haines Sr." <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 11:49 AM > Subject: [GFO] Damascus Pioneer Cemetery > > > > Nathan, > > > > > > > > You have probably found this already but just in > case > > you > > > > haven't ... > > > > ANDREW ENSLEY4 GRIBBLE (JOHN G3, JOHN2, THOMAS1) > was > > born 04 November 1822 in Haywood Co., NC, and died > 19 > > April 1879 in Macksburg, Clackamas Co., OR31. He > > married NANCY ANN RIGGS32,33 09 September 1851 in > > Macksburg, Clackamas Co., OR, daughter of DANIEL > RIGGS > > and MAHALIA CHAPMAN. She was born 18 May 1834 in > > Missouri34, and died 09 April 1925 in Macksburg, > > Clackamas Co., Oregon34. > > More About ANDREW ENSLEY GRIBBLE: > > Burial: April 1879, Gribble Cemetary, Macksburg, > OR > > > > > > Barb Ledbury > > > > > > Barb, > > Wow! Thanks for the file that mentions some of > the > > Gribble family buried in the "Gribble Cemetery". I > > missed seeing or hearing of that cemetery and > nobody I > > talked to thought of that one. I looked in my > Oregon > > Burial Site Guide before and completely missed > that > > one but in looking back at that from your > suggestion, > > you have a very good point. The Gribble Cemetery > is > > very close to Macksburg and almost right in it! > Nice > > going Barb. Thanks for the tip. I will surely go > find > > that cemetery also and check it out. IF I find my > > Gelbrichs buried there then that should be proof > > positive that the Gribble Cemetery used to be > called > > the Macksburg Cemetery, at least at one point in > time. > > > > Nathan > > > > > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe, send a message to > [email protected] that > > contains (in the body of the message) only the > single word: unsubscribe > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million > records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the > world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > -- > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - > Release Date: 3/11/2005 > > > > > >

> Hi Sam, > Thanks for checking on this for me. I will keep >that in mind. I will still go there to double check. I >would like to see that Gribble Cemetery for myself >anyway. I think you have helped keep me from getting >my hopes up too high before going there. :-] > Nathan Nathan The old DAR reading that I have does not list the Gelbrich's either. There are 17 members of the Gribble family, Boggess, Clouser, Fish, Glouser ,Goebel, Gurley, Hungate Jackson Jesse, Johnston, Karney, Kieling, Kinney, Kraus, Rueck, White, Woodford, Wyland and 8 unmarked graves in 1935-6. Janice Janice M. Healy Co-compiler of "Oregon Burial Site Guide" Aloha, Oregon U.S.A. Mailto:[email protected] "Oregon Burial Site Guide" http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/obsg.html Plan ahead for the following conferences: NGS Conference 1-4 June 2005, Nashville Tennessee FGS Conference 9-10 Sept 2005, Salt Lake City Public service site http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ancestors.html

Hi Sam, Thanks for checking on this for me. I will keep that in mind. I will still go there to double check. I would like to see that Gribble Cemetery for myself anyway. I think you have helped keep me from getting my hopes up too high before going there. :-] Nathan --- Sam Butler <[email protected]> wrote: > per the Clackamas County Cemeteries 1983 by Jeanne M > Dickinson, from the GFO Library, there are no > Gelbrich's listed in the Gribble Cemetary. > > There is no general index of the book, the > cemeteries > that are listed are just grouped together, the book > is > not a complete collection of all Clackamas County > Cemeteries, just some of the smaller ones. > > Sam Butler > > > --- "Nathan Haines Sr." <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Has anyone ever heard of a cemetery called the > > Macksburg Cemetery? > > I went out to Canby today and got an obit for > a > > cousin who died in 1931 and the obit said he was > > then > > buried in the Macksburg Cemetery. The funeral was > > held > > at the Macksburg Luthern Church it said. > > I asked all kinds of people in and around > Canby > > and Macksburg and nobody but nobody has ever heard > > of > > any Macksburg Cemetery. > > One old timer from the area said there is only > > one > > cemetery in Macksburg and I found out that it is > > named > > the Klinger Memorial Cemetery. I finally found > that > > tiny cemetery out there in the woods and it only > has > > a > > handfull of gravestones. According to The Oregon > > Burial Site Guide that cemetery was never called > the > > Macksburg Cemetery so I am not sure if that is the > > right cemetery or not. It MIGHT be and my > Gelbrich's > > who I am looking for the grave for may be there > and > > not have any gravestone?? > > I also found out from a local in the area that > > the > > Gelbrich family's first home which is over a > hundred > > years old is still out there and is only about a > > half > > mile from the Klinger Memorial Cemetery. > > Nathan > > > > > > > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe, send a message to > > [email protected] that > > contains (in the body of the message) only the > > single word: unsubscribe > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about > > your ancestors, find > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ >

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Hi, Thanks for all the good advice again Janice. You are sure good at this cemetery research. I was told by an old timer out there that the original Macksburg Lutheran Church was moved down the street a ways and turned into a store but the new church that was built, which is not new now, was built on the exact location of the old Macksburg Lutheran Church. This church dates way back into the 1800s and is still going strong. It apparently was started by a bunch of German immigrants. If they had a burial site near the church it will still be close to the church if there is one. Well, you were right. The Lutheran Cemetery is in your book, the Oregon Burial Site Guide. I just skimmed through all the cemeteries on Clackamas County. I had never heard of it called the St Johann Lutheran Cemetery before so I just skimmed right on by that one. That is it though for sure. One of the obits I got yesterday on one of the other Gelbrich�s in my tree said that she was buried in that Cemetery and it was just called the Lutheran Cemetery. I will be getting her dearth certificate too when I go down to the State Archives again. I have a very good digital camera now and will send you some pics of different cemeteries when I get them. I will just put them on cd for you. It will more then likely not be until this summer since we have shifted into normal Oregon non stop rain pattern. The pics will look a lot better on a sunny day. This will be my way of letting you know I really appreciate all the work you have put into such an excellent book like the OR Burial Site Guide, ok? :-] Thanks Janice, Nathan

Nathan, You have probably found this already but just in case you haven�t �.. ANDREW ENSLEY4 GRIBBLE (JOHN G3, JOHN2, THOMAS1) was born 04 November 1822 in Haywood Co., NC, and died 19 April 1879 in Macksburg, Clackamas Co., OR31. He married NANCY ANN RIGGS32,33 09 September 1851 in Macksburg, Clackamas Co., OR, daughter of DANIEL RIGGS and MAHALIA CHAPMAN. She was born 18 May 1834 in Missouri34, and died 09 April 1925 in Macksburg, Clackamas Co., Oregon34. More About ANDREW ENSLEY GRIBBLE: Burial: April 1879, Gribble Cemetary, Macksburg, OR Barb Ledbury Barb, Wow! Thanks for the file that mentions some of the Gribble family buried in the "Gribble Cemetery". I missed seeing or hearing of that cemetery and nobody I talked to thought of that one. I looked in my Oregon Burial Site Guide before and completely missed that one but in looking back at that from your suggestion, you have a very good point. The Gribble Cemetery is very close to Macksburg and almost right in it! Nice going Barb. Thanks for the tip. I will surely go find that cemetery also and check it out. IF I find my Gelbrichs buried there then that should be proof positive that the Gribble Cemetery used to be called the Macksburg Cemetery, at least at one point in time. Nathan

Janice, I thought you might have some wonderful advice and you did. Thanks. The idea of this cemetery being right by the church is most likely a very good possibility. I am really sorry I did not think of that myself sooner. It is more then likely probably hidden from view and most people do not even know about it? I was figuring that if I found it that I would make sure and give you all the info on it that I could for your records. You have done such a fabulous, marvelous job on cemetery research for the whole state of Oregon. I know exactly where that Macksburg Church is and was right by it today. I will try and contact that church to see if they might have any idea where this cemetery went to. I remember seeing every one of the people you mentioned in your list for Klinger Memorial Cemetery on the stones in that cemetery today. I do not need any dates on them. I know well that they could be there with no stone. Not only could it be that they may not have been able to afford a decent one during that depression time. It is very likely there could have been a lot of stones destroyed by vandals many long years ago and the Gelbrich�s stone could have been one of them and was never replaced. Maybe even someone at the Canby Funeral home may have heard of this Macksburg Cemetery and have some knowledge on its' whereabouts. I will contact them too and give that a try. I will gladly give you a copy of this obit sometime if you are interested that states Mr Gelbrich was buried in that cemetery. I need to go get his death certificate and check that to see just what cemetery that lists him in to make sure that says Macksburg Cemetery also. You also mentioned about wooden grave markers. I know of one that still exists! It is in a cemetery out in McMinnville. I could hardly believe my eyes when I saw it! It is extremely old and it looks like someone has put some sort of preservative on it to help make it last longer. The names have long ago worn off so I have no idea who is buried there. I am wondering also if there isn't someone in the Clackamas County Offices that is in charge of Cemetery business. Maybe they do not have records that date back a long way on what cemeteries used to be named; maybe they only keep up with current names of cemeteries? There must be some old records of some kind that might shed some light on this. I know the Oregon Citry Library has some pretty old Ore City Directories and the Ore City Directory covered a lot of territory like Canby and a lot of other outlying areas and I think Macksburg too. Maybe there is a listing in there for the Macksburg Cemetery with an address to go with it to boot?! Wouldn't that be a help? I know of one other cemetery that is not in your Burial Site Guide. It is simply called The Lutheran Cemetery. I have yet to go out there and see it. I have been told about it and know where it is and a cousin of mine has gone there. I do not know if you know where the corner of Bremer Rd and Central Point Rd is? It is way out in the country a couple two or three miles North East of Canby where it is called the New Era area. There used to be an old Lutheran Church by that corner which has long ago been torn down which had a small cemetery by it. The teeny cemetery is supposed to be by a nursery now that is there. I am going to get out there one day soon and take pictures of that cemetery. My Grandparents, my mother's parents, the Dietz's lived out there and went to that little Lutheran Church and their first child which died as an infant is believed to have been buried there but has no marker. This is another tiny cemetery that you should add to your records. I could gladly give you some pictures of this little cemetery when I take them if you are interested. Nathan --- "Janice M. Healy" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Has anyone ever heard of a cemetery called the > >Macksburg Cemetery? > > I went out to Canby today and got an obit for > a > >cousin who died in 1931 and the obit said he was > then > >buried in the Macksburg Cemetery. The funeral was > held > >at the Macksburg Luthern Church it said. > > I asked all kinds of people in and around > Canby > >and Macksburg and nobody but nobody has ever heard > of > >any Macksburg Cemetery. > > One old timer from the area said there is only > one > >cemetery in Macksburg > > Well Nathan we didn't list it because we have never > ran across a > reference to a Macksburg Cemetery, So any info you > come up with on it > please forward it to me. I hope to post on the web > site in a few > months the little bit of new info that has come in > for every one. > Also there is a possibility that the Macksburg > Cemetery was in > connection with the old church, where was it and is > there anything > left there? A lot of old church's had small burial > grounds, once the > church folds, is torn down etc. the cemeteries have > a habit of > disappearing under the black berries and brush. > > > and I found out that it is named > >the Klinger Memorial Cemetery. I finally found that > >tiny cemetery out there in the woods and it only > has a > >handfull of gravestones. According to The Oregon > >Burial Site Guide that cemetery was never called > the > >Macksburg Cemetery so I am not sure if that is the > >right cemetery or not. It MIGHT be and my > Gelbrich's > >who I am looking for the grave for may be there and > >not have any gravestone?? > > Very possible that there is not one as out in > Clackamas County they > used a lot of wooden head boards and of course most > of them are all > gone now. Also in 1931 remember that was the great > depression and > most folks didn't have any money for monuments. > > > I also found out from a local in the area that > the > >Gelbrich family's first home which is over a > hundred > >years old is still out there and is only about a > half > >mile from the Klinger Memorial Cemetery. > > You have most likely found the right cemetery, > though the only known > graves are for the following: > Willard Lewis Klingler > Erma Rose Klingler > Willard Lewis Klingler, Jr. > Infant Son of F. C. Klingler > William T. Son of Jl & Ma Klingler > Infant son of J & M Klingler > John Klingler > Mary A Smith > John H. Smith > A Can't Read > and unmarked > Caroline Gieptner > George F Dworschak > Clara E Dworschak > Baby no name > L Joyce Wolfer > > The above came from a web page someone put up back > in 2001 > > The following is from a very old 1936-1937 DAR > reading > Christine Kister > John Peter Kister > John Klingler > William T. Klingler > Caroline Gieptner Mutter [Nathan this is probably > German for Mother] > John H. Smith > Lily R. Smith > Mary A. Smith > William G. Walch > Caroline W. Walch > Joyce L. Wolfer > > Nathan remember these are just the known burials, > DAR usually read > the stones/markers if there were any but if not they > would not have > listed them most likely. Deaths range from 1859-1997 > in these lists, > none are listed for the 1930's but that doesn't mean > there were none. > > If any one needs dates for these folks yes I do have > them but it is > late and I was on my way to bed when this came in so > please feel free > to e-mail me for them and I will fill them in > tomorrow. > > Janice > > > > Janice M. Healy > Co-compiler of "Oregon Burial Site Guide" > > Aloha, Oregon U.S.A. > Mailto:[email protected] > > "Oregon Burial Site Guide" > http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/obsg.html > Plan ahead for the following conferences: > NGS Conference 1-4 June 2005, Nashville > Tennessee > FGS Conference 9-10 Sept 2005, Salt Lake City > > Public service site > http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ancestors.html > > > > > ==== ORFORUM Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a message to > [email protected] that > contains (in the body of the message) only the > single word: unsubscribe > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search > not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

> Hi, > Has anyone ever heard of a cemetery called the >Macksburg Cemetery? > I went out to Canby today and got an obit for a >cousin who died in 1931 and the obit said he was then >buried in the Macksburg Cemetery. The funeral was held >at the Macksburg Luthern Church it said. > I asked all kinds of people in and around Canby >and Macksburg and nobody but nobody has ever heard of >any Macksburg Cemetery. > One old timer from the area said there is only one >cemetery in Macksburg Well Nathan we didn't list it because we have never ran across a reference to a Macksburg Cemetery, So any info you come up with on it please forward it to me. I hope to post on the web site in a few months the little bit of new info that has come in for every one. Also there is a possibility that the Macksburg Cemetery was in connection with the old church, where was it and is there anything left there? A lot of old church's had small burial grounds, once the church folds, is torn down etc. the cemeteries have a habit of disappearing under the black berries and brush. > and I found out that it is named >the Klinger Memorial Cemetery. I finally found that >tiny cemetery out there in the woods and it only has a >handfull of gravestones. According to The Oregon >Burial Site Guide that cemetery was never called the >Macksburg Cemetery so I am not sure if that is the >right cemetery or not. It MIGHT be and my Gelbrich's >who I am looking for the grave for may be there and >not have any gravestone?? Very possible that there is not one as out in Clackamas County they used a lot of wooden head boards and of course most of them are all gone now. Also in 1931 remember that was the great depression and most folks didn't have any money for monuments. > I also found out from a local in the area that the >Gelbrich family's first home which is over a hundred >years old is still out there and is only about a half >mile from the Klinger Memorial Cemetery. You have most likely found the right cemetery, though the only known graves are for the following: Willard Lewis Klingler Erma Rose Klingler Willard Lewis Klingler, Jr. Infant Son of F. C. Klingler William T. Son of Jl & Ma Klingler Infant son of J & M Klingler John Klingler Mary A Smith John H. Smith A Can't Read and unmarked Caroline Gieptner George F Dworschak Clara E Dworschak Baby no name L Joyce Wolfer The above came from a web page someone put up back in 2001 The following is from a very old 1936-1937 DAR reading Christine Kister John Peter Kister John Klingler William T. Klingler Caroline Gieptner Mutter [Nathan this is probably German for Mother] John H. Smith Lily R. Smith Mary A. Smith William G. Walch Caroline W. Walch Joyce L. Wolfer Nathan remember these are just the known burials, DAR usually read the stones/markers if there were any but if not they would not have listed them most likely. Deaths range from 1859-1997 in these lists, none are listed for the 1930's but that doesn't mean there were none. If any one needs dates for these folks yes I do have them but it is late and I was on my way to bed when this came in so please feel free to e-mail me for them and I will fill them in tomorrow. Janice Janice M. Healy Co-compiler of "Oregon Burial Site Guide" Aloha, Oregon U.S.A. Mailto:[email protected] "Oregon Burial Site Guide" http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/obsg.html Plan ahead for the following conferences: NGS Conference 1-4 June 2005, Nashville Tennessee FGS Conference 9-10 Sept 2005, Salt Lake City Public service site http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ancestors.html

Hi Carole, I looked at this map suggestion of yours. What does the red star on the map indicate, the location of Macksburg or the Macksburg Cemetery? I typed in a search for Macksburg Cemetery on Map Quest and it came up with nothing. So, I am suspecting that the red star indicates where Macksburg area is and not the cemetery? Is that right? Nathan --- [email protected] wrote: --------------------------------- A MapQuest map has been sent to you by [email protected] it is east of hwy 170 in Clackamas Co.Good luck!To view your map, click on this link or cut and paste this link into your browser's location bar. http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?email=1&mapdatMapQuest.com is the Web's leading provider of free Maps and Driving Directions. Visit us today at www.mapquest.com.