Yes Cecil, the meandering lines. I like the BLM land records site, and search the whole state. I know I am a newbie but I loved the Ancestry.com site that I PAY for, searching around all the census information, I know....not cool! Best $5 a month I ever spent, they also send a very nice magazine and a huge reference book. http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ Good searching. Laura -----Original Message----- From: Cecil Houk [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 10:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Where(?) were the born! This could drive you nuts. My father's mother was born in Wasco Co., OR in 1875. My father was born in Crook Co., OR in 1909. His sister was born in Jefferson Co., OR a few years later. All three were born in Lamonta, OR!! Way back then Wasco County was very large and Lamonta was in Wasco County. They ceated Crook County out of part of Wasco after my grandmother was born; this puts Lamonta in Crook County at the time of my father's birth. Then in 1914 Jefferson is cut out of Crook County in time for my aunt to be born. Same idea: I was mystified about some Clackamas County data until today. This county at one time was most of Oregon Territory. It was chopped up to make the many counties that we know today. Bottom Line: If you have only "county" data for b. d. m. of an ancestor in Oregon in the 1800's and early 1900's that county may have been "reinvented"! And boys and girls, can we say, "Marshfield?" Try, "Coos Bay." Here is a URL that has been posted before but worth posting again: http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgenweb/ Many of the county pages have maps "then" and "now"; check them out. Cecil -- Cecil Houk, ET1 USN Ret., AG6I San Diego CA 92154-3654 mailto:[email protected] ANDERSON-BLAKELY-EGGERS-FORD-HOUK-KIMSEY-MONTGOMERY-RULAFORD-SIMPSON Searchable GEDCOM: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cchouk See also: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=donhouk My Web page menu: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cchouk/rulaford/menu.htm