Listers: Some of you missed the point I was trying to make. It's been said that USGS maps was closed, and this URL no longer works: http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html and it doesn't. But the page I have also bookmarked is still working for me. http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form They may close it if they find a ton of people using it. Someone wrote me saying they could not access this page, but I just did access it! The BLM site is closed. :-( Cecil Cecil Houk, ET1 USN Ret., AG6I PO Box 530833 San Diego CA 92153 res San Diego CA 92154-3654 NEW EMAIL ADDRESS mailto:cchouk@cox.net ANDERSON-BLAKELY-EGGERS-FORD-HOUK-KIMSEY-MONTGOMERY-RULAFORD-SIMPSON Searchable GEDCOM: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~cchouk See also: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~donhouk My Web pages menu: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cchouk/rulaford/menu.htm