I know this message is in the list archives, but it seems like we have some new members so I'll post it again. There are a dozen or so lists of people on various Oregon Trail and California Trail wagontrains on my website. Also included are some names from trailside graves, and some suggestions on how to research wagon trains. Go to: http://www.netcom.com/~symbios/geneal.html The Overland Trail entries are listed two-thirds of the way down the page. Sandy Wilbur -------------- Pre-owned History, Genealogy and Natural History Books: http://www.netcom.com/~symbios/genbooks.html Was your family on the Oregon Trail? Maybe they were on "The McCully Train" http://www.netcom.com/~symbios/wagntrn.html

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------63AD937AB100302EA5123952 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The surnames I have researched on the Oregon Trail are King and Norton. Also, I have been researching Plunkett. The Plunketts were part of the Mormon migration to Utah, and moved into Amador County, CA in the 1860's. Charlie Hinkle --------------63AD937AB100302EA5123952 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="chinkl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Charlie Hinkle Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="chinkl.vcf" begin:vcard n:Hinkle;Charlie tel;fax:972-709-4654 tel;work:972-709-0025 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.dealerselectrical.com org:25 adr:;;1111 Explorer;Duncanville;TX;75138; version:2.1 email;internet:chinkl@dealerselectrical.com title:Branch Manager fn:Charlie Hinkle end:vcard --------------63AD937AB100302EA5123952--

Just wondered if you are familiar with the Dickey Prairie area that is a few miles east of Molalla in Clackamas CO. There is a Dickey Prairie store that is a major stop when heading up the Molalla River. There is also a Dickey Prairie school. Verdena ----- Original Message ----- From: "spiders" <spiders@elltel.net> To: <OREGON-TRAIL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 10:40 AM Subject: Surname List : I am researching the following surnames: : Gage, Dickey, German, Riggs, Robinson, Ridgley, French, Smith, Norton, : LePage, Schmelke, Chmelka, Cyr/Sire, Newell, Sisson, Bacon, Davis, and : collateral lines. : : Kathy : spiders@elltel.net :

Around Sun,Feb 10 2002, at 05:53, cchouk, wrote: >Listers: > >But the page I have also bookmarked is still working for me. >http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form >They may close it if they find a ton of people using it. >Someone wrote me saying they could not access this page, but >I just did access it! > >The BLM site is closed. :-( The DOI got in trouble for failing to secure their machines. Late November or so they (DOI) severed all connections to the internet. Parts of the DOI have come back on line since then. I'm guessing that as a section proves their systems are secure, then they are allowed to go back on line with some of their data. Part of why it was taken off line: http://www.indiantrust.com/clips.cfm?news_id=158 -- Roger ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Would anyone know whether there is any sort of record of the names of those who died along the trail. I'm looking for two children of Alexander Hamilton, ages between one and five. Thanks for any help. Helen

Would anyone know if there is a list of the names of the leaders or captains who led the caravans on the trail? Looking for anything on Alexander Hamilton who arrived about 1850 and was a Captain. Hoping to find out if he is my great uncle. Helen

>Would anyone know if there is a list of the names of the leaders or captains >who led the caravans on the trail? >Looking for anything on Alexander Hamilton who arrived about 1850 and was a >Captain. Hoping to find out if he is my great uncle. >Helen Clackamas County Historical Society's Barlow Road list mentions Alexander Hamilton as a wagonmaster/captain, but gives a (?) for the year. The general list calls him Capt. Alexander Hamilton, but no date or family members mentioned. His name probably came from family sources rather than toll books, hence the uncertain date. Do you have names of family members with a different surname that might have been in his party? jim

Listers: Some of you missed the point I was trying to make. It's been said that USGS maps was closed, and this URL no longer works: http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html and it doesn't. But the page I have also bookmarked is still working for me. http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form They may close it if they find a ton of people using it. Someone wrote me saying they could not access this page, but I just did access it! The BLM site is closed. :-( Cecil Cecil Houk, ET1 USN Ret., AG6I PO Box 530833 San Diego CA 92153 res San Diego CA 92154-3654 NEW EMAIL ADDRESS mailto:cchouk@cox.net ANDERSON-BLAKELY-EGGERS-FORD-HOUK-KIMSEY-MONTGOMERY-RULAFORD-SIMPSON Searchable GEDCOM: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~cchouk See also: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~donhouk My Web pages menu: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cchouk/rulaford/menu.htm

>The USGS mapping site is down because all of the Dept. of Interior internet is >down due to a Judge's Order. It has to do with security for the Indian Trust >Accounts. > >Tempe Berggren >Retired BLMer > Sadly, this is true. In putting together the 7.5 minute quads for the Oregon-California Trail, I did considerable roaming around on the net and found a number of (usually state) sites which have maps available for free in computer format (DRG). However, not all states have done this (beats me why not). If you'd like a particular state, e-mail me and I'll see if I can locate a source for you. THANKS Bob Wier mailto:wierb@rocky.edu 3:13 PM MST Sunday, February 10, 2002 Rocky Mountain College, Billings MT. I get a *LOT* of e-mail - if I don't respond to your message, please send again

Try this url: http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form Cecil Houk, ET1 USN Ret., AG6I PO Box 530833 San Diego CA 92153 res San Diego CA 92154-3654 NEW EMAIL ADDRESS mailto:cchouk@cox.net ANDERSON-BLAKELY-EGGERS-FORD-HOUK-KIMSEY-MONTGOMERY-RULAFORD-SIMPSON Searchable GEDCOM: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~cchouk See also: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~donhouk My Web pages menu: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cchouk/rulaford/menu.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Wier" <wierb@rocky.edu> To: <OREGON-TRAIL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 2:14 PM Subject: Missing Maps > >The USGS mapping site is down because all of the Dept. of Interior internet is > >down due to a Judge's Order. It has to do with security for the Indian Trust > >Accounts. > > > >Tempe Berggren > >Retired BLMer > > > > Sadly, this is true. In putting together the 7.5 minute quads for the > Oregon-California Trail, I did considerable roaming around on the net > and found a number of (usually state) sites which have maps available > for free in computer format (DRG). However, not all states have done > this (beats me why not). > > If you'd like a particular state, e-mail me and I'll see if I can locate > a source for you. > > THANKS > > Bob Wier > mailto:wierb@rocky.edu > 3:13 PM MST Sunday, February 10, 2002 > Rocky Mountain College, Billings MT. > I get a *LOT* of e-mail - if I don't respond > to your message, please send again >

The USGS mapping site is down because all of the Dept. of Interior internet is down due to a Judge's Order. It has to do with security for the Indian Trust Accounts. Tempe Berggren Retired BLMer > Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 17:05:26 -0800 > From: "Laura" <pinkya@gte.net> > To: OREGON-TRAIL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: CALCITE MAP > > Bob > Thanks for the tip. > > What has happened to the USGS mapping site? > > Bob's best > http://www.calcite.rocky.edu/gps/ > > > http://www.octa-trails.org > > Laura > > ===== Tempe Berggren http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Oaks/6370 http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/e/r/Tempe-T-Berggren/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com

Hi All: I am searching - HITCHCOCK, PATTERSON, GREEN. These all came to California, but, used the trail to get here. HITCHCOCK is one that helped guide the Stephens Townsend Murphy Wagon Train of 1844, to CA. Thanks Gail Darling Bakersfield CA

At 11:01 AM 2/10/02 -0700, you wrote: >OREGON-TRAIL-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 19 > >Today's Topics: > #1 NORTHWEST COUSINS ["Laura" <pinkya@gte.net>] >______________________________X-Message: #1 >Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 15:45:05 -0800 >From: "Laura" <pinkya@gte.net> >To: OREGON-TRAIL-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <003b01c1b1c3$cd8b92e0$ce19e243@pinky> >Subject: NORTHWEST COUSINS >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hi everyone > >It seems as if we are all related in the NW >Keep posting to Walla Walla, Wasco, Benton, Franklin, and Columbia Counties. >Lets have a call for your LINES!!! >Post your names!! Huffman?Harvey lineage was also in Wallowa and Union Co., OR. LORINSKI/NAVISKAS: RIMKUS, SHUKIS [Lithuania/PA, IL, WA] HUFFMAN/HARVEY: ALEXANDER, BAILEY, BRASHEAR, BROWN, CARMAN, COLLINS, FORDHAM, FREEMAN, HARRIS, HASH, HOWARD, JOHNSON, LaRUE, MOORE, MURPHY, OSBORNE, RAY, SEAMAN, SIMMONS, STURGILL, WEAVER [VA, KY, IL, IN, KS, MO, OR] GEMMRIG/WARD: ALLEN, ALTMAN, BREITKREUTZ, BURKHOLDER, CARPENTER, EARLY, FRESE, KNOP, LYON, MILLER, MONGAN, THOMAS, WRIGHT [Germany/AR, NY, MA, VT, NE, PA, OH, IA, IL, MT, WA] WOODWARD/GALLUP: STORY [KS/ID] JoAnn

I am researching the following surnames: Gage, Dickey, German, Riggs, Robinson, Ridgley, French, Smith, Norton, LePage, Schmelke, Chmelka, Cyr/Sire, Newell, Sisson, Bacon, Davis, and collateral lines. Kathy spiders@elltel.net

Hi to all, I live near Lexington in view of Swaggart Buttes. An interesting story connected with them is that the home built there was the center for horsethieves. Mr Swaggart owned lots of horses and because of his excellent knowledge of the Buttes was able to hide herds of them easily. It is farmed now and cattle roam those crags and hidden hollows. Marlene

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 01:19:37 -0800 "Laura" <pinkya@gte.net> wrote: << John CHAMBERLIN married my gggrandmother's sister Mariah SMITH. (Her sister Cordelia Smith, brother John H. Smith, Louisa Evaline SMITH). Does anyone have a CHAMBERLIN LINK? Does anyone know where Mariah and Chamberlin settled? or died? >> Hi Laura, Here is the reply I sent you back in Sept. 2000, just to reply to the query you sent to the list yesterday. In regard to the list of CHAMBERLAIN/CHAMBERLINs you found in the censuses, I know a couple of these are "our" John CHAMBERLAIN or connect to him (I'll note how if I can remember off the top of my head because I don't have my files open right now, in brackets under each listing): 1849 CHAMBERLIN JOHN Champoeg County OR [I think this is his provisional land claim] 1845 CHAMBERLIN W. Clackamas County OR Oregon City [not related that I have found] 1850 CHAMBERLIN W. Clackamas County OR 030 Oregon [ditto] 1850 CHAMBERLIN W. Clackamas County OR 030 Oregon [ditto] 1880 CHAMBERLIN STOUT Clackmas County OR 188 [never heard of this one] 1880 CHAMBERLIN ANDREW Douglas County OR 463 Calapooia [not related] 1890 CHAMBERLIN WILLIAM W. Douglas County OR 002 Pass Creek [not related, but could be William R. his son] 1854 CHAMBERLIN ALLEN Jackson County OR Working Copy [not related] 1880 CHAMBERLIN R. H. Josephine County OR 161 Waldo Pct [not familiar with this one] 1880 CHAMBERLIN AARON Lane County OR 232 Richardson Pct [definately not related] 1849 CHAMBERLIN D. Linn County OR No Township Listed OR [not related] 1853 CHAMBERLIN ADOLPHUS Marion County OR No [not related] 1870 CHAMBERLIN D. Marion County OR 013 Salem Precinct [not related] 1890 CHAMBERLIN FRANCIS LOUIS E Marion County OR 001 Woodburn [not related] 1880 CHAMBERLIN FRANCIS Marion County OR 083 Woodburn [ditto] 1853 CHAMBERLIN JAMES L. Marion County OR No Township [not related, son James T. was born in 1851] 1870 CHAMBERLIN L. Marion County OR 047 South Salem [not related] 1880 CHAMBERLIN M. L. Marion County OR 010 Salem Federal [not related] 1870 CHAMBERLIN OLIVE Marion County OR 129 Jefferson [not related, Olivia V. CHAMBERLAIN was married to John HANFORD & they were residing with her mother Mariah and her 3rd husband M. M. SMITH] 1880 CHAMBERLIN J. C. Multnomah County OR 379 East Portland [not related] 1870 CHAMBERLIN AARON Polk County OR 331 Buena Vista [not related] 1870 CHAMBERLIN CATHERINE Polk County OR 331 Buena Vista [ wife of Aaron] 1880 CHAMBERLIN E. Polk County OR 500 Luckemute-buena Vista [not familiar with this, but I'd have to see actual census to be certain] 1849 CHAMBERLIN JOHN Polk County OR Apportionment [this is him] 1849 CHAMBERLIN JOHN Polk County OR No Township Listed [this is him] 1880 CHAMBERLIN JOHN Polk County OR 508 Luckemute-buena Vista [could be, but I don't remeber seeing this one. Might be son John, "ours" was still in California at the time, with wife Teresa de la Pena] 1880 CHAMBERLIN E. Union County OR 149 Union Federal [don't recognize this one] 1880 CHAMBERLIN JOSEPH Union County OR 120 Rock Creek [this might be son of Aaron, but don't quote me] Now here is the reply with all the details back from Sept. 2000 and a reply from another cousin, Ross Smith after my note. > Laura, your cousin Kathy here ;-) > > Cordelia and Louisa were 1/2 sisters to John H. & Mariah SMITH. They all had > the same father James (b 18 Oct 1802, Washington Co. VA, d 25 Mar 1872 Polk > Co. OR). James married 1st to Mariah KEELE/KEEL (b ca 1805, probably in KY, d > 30 Jun 1831 Montgomery Co. MO) on 8 May 1823 (probably in Montgomery Co. MO). > They had 4 children: John H. (b 1824 Pike Co. MO), Henry Samuel (b 1826, d > young), Minerva Jane (b 1828) and Mariah (b 17 Jul 1830 Montgomery Co. MO, d > 22 Feb 1922, Polk Co. OR). When Mariah KEELE died James married 2nd to > Elizabeth WRIGHT (she was the mother of the rest of the kids, including > Cordelia and Louisa). > > James came to OR in 1846 w/Elizabeth and the children. John H. married > Martha LEWIS after arriving in OR. Minerva married John LONG (a widower with > 2 children, they had several children together and settled in Umpqua/Douglas > Co. at Yoncalla) and they came in 1846 as a married couple. All via the > Southern Route (aka Applegate Trail). > > Mariah married 14 Jan 1849 to John CHAMBERLAIN (b 10 Dec 1814 Knockfin, > Queens Co. IRE, d 12 Jan 1891 Polk Co. OR). John deserted Mariah and their > 7 children in 1864 and moved back to CA from where he came to OR from in 1846 > with his 1st wife Nancy HESS and her family. Mariah filed for divorce from > John in 1867 and on 30 Apr 1867 married John T. BELIEU. She had 1 son > w/BELIEU. John CHAMBERLAIN in the meantime married Teresa de la PENA (b > "Lower Calif.") in CA. Teresa might have died because he returned to OR ca > 1889 and resided (we believe) with his oldest daughter (my gg grandmother) > Olivia V. CHAMBERLAIN HANFORD JOHNSON MOORE. John T. BELIEU died in 1869 and > Mariah married for the 3rd time to Madison M. SMITH (no relation that we've > found). So she died with the same name she was born with! She, John T. > BELIEU, Madison SMITH, Olivia and her 2nd and 3rd husbands and 4 of her > children are all buried in a row in Smith Cemetery just outside of Monmouth, > Polk Co.. We believe that John CHAMBERLAIN is the "Juan Chamberlain" buried > in the old section of the Dallas Cemetery in Dallas, Polk Co.. I have > lots of wonderful stories about the infamous John CHAMBERLAIN (who was > referred to as "the promiscuous Irish blacksmith of the [Sutter's] fort" in > one book, and leads me to believe he was quite a lady's man in his batchelor > days). He arrived in Monterey in 1839 and was the government blacksmith at > Sutter's Fort at one time. I'll be glad to pass copies along to you in the > future (my files are a complete mess right now). > > James SMITH settled on the Little Luckiamute River in "Lewisville" area of > Polk Co.. Son John H. SMITH was next to his claim to the north. John > CHAMBERLAIN's land claim was north of that in "Bridgeport" area. Buena Vista > is on the Willamette River. > > Kathy Hanford Merz <kathinwa@aol.com> .... the lazy emailer ;-) <<< Date: Tuesday, September 5, 2000 6:42:17 AM From: rasmith@wcn.net Subj: Re: MARIAH AND JOHN CHAMBERLIN MARION COUNTY OREGON To: KathinWA@aol.com cc: pinkya@gte.net, arlieholt@aol.com Hi Kathy -- that's a very complete answer to which I would offer only a couple of small updates, an anecdote, and a wuestion for you. James Smith's DLC was at the junction of the Big and Little Lukiamute rivers (where they camped upon arrival on December 31, 1846, destitute from the disaster of the Southern Route), and his son John's was on the Little Lukiamute just north of him. Daughter Minerva Jane Smith used her middle name too, and the Longs settled in Oakland not Yoncalla in Douglas county, on John Long Road, where our cousin Robert Long's family has lived to this day. The first and only Long child born in Polk county was named John James Long for his father John Long and grandfather James Smith, and married Jesse Applegate's daughter Sallie and Robert Long still has a cabinet Jesse hand made them as a wedding present. Didn''t John Chamberlin eventually return to Polk county to live out his life in the care of one of his children, or some such? cousin Ross >>> {{Kathy here again}} A little side note to Ross's note... Yes John CHAMBERLAIN did return to Polk Co., he had written a letter to son John Wesley CHAMBERLAIN in 1889 (obviously a response to a request for information regarding his family) and it referred to his sisters and brothers (who seemingly did not accompany him from Ireland in 1831/2 with he and his sisters (Susan, Jane, Fannie & Marie). He referred to the brothers as Richard and "Offie" (probably short for Theophelis, my guess anyway) being younger than he. He stated that he had not heard from his family in quite a long time. In my own research, I did find one of the older sisters, Jane, who married a James TWIST and resided in PA and OH. I have corresponded with a descendant of them. As far as the others, I have not been able to verify their existances. As far as going further back on the father James SMITH and your gggg grandmother Elizabeth WRIGHT. I haven't been so lucky. Smiths in Virginia seem to have been a dime a dozen ;-) I had better luck on my gggg grandmother's line - as my gggg Mariah KEELE was daughter of Isaac KEELE & Patience KERR (d/o James KERR & Patience WELLS). The WELLS line has been facinating. I still think that it is entirely possible that the SMITHs were there as well, but separating and dissecting them all is discouraging, so I quickly lose interest..... sigh. Maybe you might have better luck! I think that Elizabeth WRIGHT's line is trackable. Since she is not my line, I have not pursued them, but I did find traces of them in my researching. Many of the Oregon Trail folks intermingled for many years prior to their trip to Oregon Territory in the 1840s, many of the names I find with my family in Oregon, are together when I trace them back to MO, IL, KY, VA and everywhere else. Kathy Hanford Merz <KathinWA@aol.com> CHAMBERLAIN (1846), SMITH (1846), HANFORD (1855?), MULKEY (1852), HILLIARD (by 1859)

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Dear Listers, This query may be directed more in the area of Yamhill, Clackamas, and Washington. I am looking for the brother and two sons of Levi Washington Gregg. I am also looking for the gravesites of Jesse Parrish and his wife, Christina Shuck Parrish. Levi's wife, Susannah Smith, died on the trail in 1852, as did his mother, Elizabeth Roberts Gregg, and his father, John Gregg. The family arrived in Oregon on Oct. 25, 1852. (DLC) This group was, at least: Levi, daughter Urania, 6 years old who later married James McConnell in Oregon, two sons William Gregg born about 1848, and John Gregg, born about 1851. also, Levi's sisters Polly Ann and her husband Philip Winters, and Almeda, married to Joseph Badley. Also, Levi's brother, William Gregg, born in about 1835. Levi later married Jane Parrish Heater in Dec. 1861. . They divorced in 1868. Levi then took with him to California his four infant children by Jane; Silas Gregg, 5; Jeris Gregg, 4; twins Riley and Delilah Gregg, 2. Where did his sons William and John go? What happened to them? Does anyone have these two Greggs in their family file? I have not been able to find the burial locations of Jesse Parrish and his wife, Christina Shuck Parrish. Thank you for taking a look. I will share info I have on this family. Barbara Harvey in California great-granddaughter of Levi, who died in California in 1902.

Bob Thanks for the tip. What has happened to the USGS mapping site? Bob's best http://www.calcite.rocky.edu/gps/ http://www.octa-trails.org Laura -----Original Message----- From: Bob Wier [mailto:wierb@rocky.edu] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 4:01 PM To: OREGON-TRAIL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: SWAGGART BUTTES >Listers > >Does anyone have a link or place names book to check on this: a term used >for the Morrow County area and its beautiful canyons, west of Umatilla >County. > > SWAGGART BUTTES > >Laura Here's some information: Swaggart Buttes: summit: Morrow: 41049: 452742N1193444W: : 2619: Swaggart Buttes: oregon: 24K : O45119d5: TOR1175: 1968: 1968 What this says is that it's located at 45.2742 North, and 119.3444 West, with a maximum elevation of 2619 feet, and can be found on the Swaggart Buttes United States Geological Survey map in the 1:24,000 series either on paper as call number TOR1175 or electronically O45119d5. It was last surveyed in 1968. This information comes from my USA/GPS waypoint server, which anyone can access at: http://www.calcite.rocky.edu/gps/ You can search by any of the above criteria, but mostly you'd just want to ask for matches on a given landmark in a given state (I put in "Swaggart Buttes" and selected "Oregon" to search). Also, I'd like to point out that there is the Oregon-California Trails Association located at: http://www.octa-trails.org One of our major projects is the "COED" database which is the Census of Emigrant Diarys - which catalogs landmarks and people mentioned in the journals that have survived. Unfortunately it's not online (yet) but you can order a search via the mail form that is on the website. I hope this will prove useful to you "sons of the pioneers" ( and daughters, too!) THANKS Bob Wier mailto:wierb@rocky.edu Board of Directors - Oregon - California Trails Association

>Listers > >Does anyone have a link or place names book to check on this: a term used >for the Morrow County area and its beautiful canyons, west of Umatilla >County. > > SWAGGART BUTTES > >Laura Here's some information: Swaggart Buttes: summit: Morrow: 41049: 452742N1193444W: : 2619: Swaggart Buttes: oregon: 24K : O45119d5: TOR1175: 1968: 1968 What this says is that it's located at 45.2742 North, and 119.3444 West, with a maximum elevation of 2619 feet, and can be found on the Swaggart Buttes United States Geological Survey map in the 1:24,000 series either on paper as call number TOR1175 or electronically O45119d5. It was last surveyed in 1968. This information comes from my USA/GPS waypoint server, which anyone can access at: http://www.calcite.rocky.edu/gps/ You can search by any of the above criteria, but mostly you'd just want to ask for matches on a given landmark in a given state (I put in "Swaggart Buttes" and selected "Oregon" to search). Also, I'd like to point out that there is the Oregon-California Trails Association located at: http://www.octa-trails.org One of our major projects is the "COED" database which is the Census of Emigrant Diarys - which catalogs landmarks and people mentioned in the journals that have survived. Unfortunately it's not online (yet) but you can order a search via the mail form that is on the website. I hope this will prove useful to you "sons of the pioneers" ( and daughters, too!) THANKS Bob Wier mailto:wierb@rocky.edu Board of Directors - Oregon - California Trails Association