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    1. [Fwd: Old, Unknown Tombstones, Whittier]
    2. Marilyn Demas
    3. Saw this on my SoCal list and thought someone may recognize these names on the Oregon Trail list. marilyn GARY RADCLIFFE wrote: > Two grave markers were recently found across the street from the original > cemetery where Founder's Park now stands. The markers were there before > the cemetery was founded. > > Both are white granite and are inscribed: > > Welcome Home, Martin A. Huntley, Born in Missouri > Born Sep. 3, 1861, Died Oct. 2, 1881, Aged 20 Yrs, 29 Dys > > and > > Welcome Home, Jessie U. Huntley, Born in Oregon > Born Aug. 13, 1866, Died Aug. 23, 1881, Aged 15 Yrs, 10 Dys > > Employees at the museum are trying to discover more about > the deceased. The markers were discovered on private > property while digging the foundation of a wall. > > Gary Radcliffe > West Covina, CA > > ==== SOCAL Mailing List ==== > Contact Yvonne Bowers, Listmom <SOCAL-admin@rootsweb.com>

    06/04/2002 03:35:57
    1. Re: If Windows ME Starts Only in Safe Mode
    2. Dan M
    3. For virus help see http://www.wvi.com/~wb/VirusHelp.html Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hazelett" <hazelett@zzz.com> To: <OREGON-TRAIL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 6:54 PM Subject: Fwd: If Windows ME Starts Only in Safe Mode > Gildie, your computer has the W32/Klez.h@MM virus and is broadcasting it > through your OUTLOOK EXPRESS address book. The virus is a MEDIUM > RISK. Click here to learn more from Network Associates, aka McAfee: > => http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3039 > > Those of you on the list who use OUTLOOK EXPRESS now have the virus, too, > and you will spread it if you don't maintain a current virus protection > program with up to date virus definitions. > > Stafford

    06/03/2002 01:04:25
    1. Fwd: If Windows ME Starts Only in Safe Mode
    2. Hazelett
    3. Gildie, your computer has the W32/Klez.h@MM virus and is broadcasting it through your OUTLOOK EXPRESS address book. The virus is a MEDIUM RISK. Click here to learn more from Network Associates, aka McAfee: => http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3039 Those of you on the list who use OUTLOOK EXPRESS now have the virus, too, and you will spread it if you don't maintain a current virus protection program with up to date virus definitions. Stafford

    06/03/2002 12:54:00
    1. George Schultz /Benton County,OR. /died 1903
    2. Linda Hazen
    3. George Schultz is my gggrandfather,my info. is that he arrived in Oregon about 1850.He had a land grant.Does anyone have any other info. on him?Linda --- Linda Hazen --- cuppycakes3@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet.

    06/01/2002 03:39:35
    1. First settlers of E. Multnomah co.
    2. Doneva Shepard
    3. In an attempt to document the first settlers of Multnomah county for the Troutdale Historical Society, I found some of our folks listed in the 1850 census, Oregon Territory under Milwaukie, Clackamas county. Anthony and Isabella WHITAKER who had a large Donation land claim from the Columbia River south...were on the same page with the CULLEY family. Thomas Culley and his wife had a 1/2 indian boy living with them...last name Culley, age 11. They had children together and after this 1/2 Indian boy...does that mean Ms Culley was kidnapped by the Indians who fathered her child then she was returned somehow to her husband? Does anybody have the story on that? And, next page there was a SWITZLER family and they had a SWITZLER school. The census enumerator penned in small script: "35 children enrolled in the SWITZLER school." Can someone tell me where the SWITZLER school was in 1850? I found it interesting that David Powell was spelled "Powel" (no wonder his name didn't come up in a search)...and on the index it comes up as 'Trowel'...on the 1860 census, Powell Valley is "Trowels Valley"...those poor people in the East trying to research their ancestors must really get confused. AND, our beloved town of Troutdale was "Sandy town" back then...at the end of "Sandy road". Doneva Shepard in Gresham my entire genealogy database, 45,000+ names http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=donevanell (be sure entire URL fits in your Address bar) --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience

    05/11/2002 04:32:13
    1. Thomas COX, gr son; Joseph Henry BROWN; Pioneers of 1847
    2. Rose Terry
    3. Thomas COX. A Pioneer of 1847 - Merchant, Manufacturer and Farmer. Author: Joseph Henry Brown, grandson of Thomas Cox first merchant of Salem. Joseph Henry crossed the plains to Oregon with Thomas Cox in 1847 when a boy of nine years. THOMAS COX was born in the State of Virginia, October 22, 1790. More at; http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/history/wpa78.txt -- oooO Oooo || || +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ { Current publications available at: } http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=rosess { http://stores.half.com/rosess } { Rose Terry @>,--'--- _ RMTerry@prodigy.net } +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~000~~~~~( )~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ ( @ @ ) || \ / || ||| || 0ooo Give your children these two things - One is roots, the other, wings.

    05/11/2002 03:00:22
    1. Fudge family
    2. Was someone on this list looking for Fudge family ancestors? I just received a posting on another list regarding a family of that name, and I'd be happy to forward it if there's someone interested. Marilyn Schwartz

    05/09/2002 12:39:49
    1. Re: Camp Wright
    2. Mimi,Thank you very much for your help. This is a book I will look for. >>According to Oregon Geographic Names << I appreciate your help. Andrea

    05/08/2002 10:29:02
    1. Camp Wright
    2. According to Oregon Geographic Names Camp Wright was in Harney County. "Was used during the Indian troubles of the 1860's. ...It was established October 3, 1865." There's more detail in the write-up. I will once again tell everyone doing Oregon research that you need to own a copy of this wonderful book. It is authored by Lewis A. McArthur, published by the Oregon Historical Society and periodically updated. You can often find an older edition in used book stores. It's a goldmine for Oregon detail. Sincerely, Mimi Stang

    05/08/2002 06:17:08
    1. Camp Wright
    2. Does anyone know where Camp Wright in Oregon is/was? It was a US Army camp during the Civil War. I know there is a Camp Wright in CA, but a letter I have is headed "Camp Wright Ogn Jan 2nd 1866". Am also looking for information on what looks like in my grgr grandfather's military records, Silius River Expedition. This was part of Camp Wright. Andrea

    05/08/2002 06:01:02
    1. Manly M. BANISTER 1862
    2. Rose Terry
    3. Manly M. BANISTER 1862, by ox team, story told by daughter Mrs. Kitty GRAY born in Knoxville, IA Oct 8, 1857: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/history/wpa50.txt -- oooO Oooo || || +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ { Current publications available at: } http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=rosess { http://stores.half.com/rosess } { Rose Terry @>,--'--- _ RMTerry@prodigy.net } +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~000~~~~~( )~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ ( @ @ ) || \ / || ||| || 0ooo Give your children these two things - One is roots, the other, wings.

    05/05/2002 04:30:33
    1. New subscriber: Ward, Holman, Bowman, Gibson & Kent, Ray, Cantrell
    2. I have several Oregon Trail ancestors: James H Ward b. 26 Apr 1831 in Lexington, Lafayette, Missouri, the son of David Ward and Nancy S. Holman, date of immigration is unknown. He married Nancy Holman 20 Jun 1852 in Monmouth, Polk, Oregon. Yes, his mother and wife had the same name, and I suspect that they are related. It was James H Ward's half-brother, Alexander Ward who, along with his wife and all but two of their children, were murdered in the Ward Massacre in present day Canyon County, Idaho on 20 Aug 1854. In The Ward Massacre at http://home.att.net/~ptnmel/ward-massacre.html, Paul Tonning and Marilee Elizabeth Locklear attribute the Ward Massacre as "the precursor of the Yakima Indian War". The Holmans and the Bowmans 1847 James Sanders Holman and his wife Mary Ann Bowman, along with their children and her parents, John and Elizabeth Bowman, crossed the plains as part of The Missouri Company with John Nathaniel "Nat" Bowman, son of John and Elizabeth Bowman, as Captain. Children of James Sanders Holman and Mary Ann Bowman included Nancy Holman (who married James H Ward), Hardy Holman, John Holman, Rev Preston H Holman, and Nathaniel Holman. Due to conflicting information, I cannot tell if their son Amos was born before or after they crossed. What I have indicates that they crossed with 50 wagons, and in his book, Thunder Over the Ochoco Distant Thunder Volume II, Gale Ontko states that "The Missouri Company, numbering 16 wagons and led by Nathaniel Bowman, arrived at The Dalles on August 23, 1847 ...". This was third trip for Nat Bowman. Gale Ontko chronicles problems with they had with Indians, the really bad advice they received, and the consequences of taking this really bad advice. The Missourians fled into the Cascades from the Walla Wallas, and ended up being lost for days before they were rescued by the militia. I thought that this was one of the contributing tensions that led to the Whitman Massacre, but I did not include that in my database, and I have returned the book. Archibald Gibson and Elizabeth Kent Archibald and Elizabeth Gibson left Missouri in 1850 joining one of Captains Ankneys' wagon treks to Oregon. In Oregon Territory, they settled on the Long Tom River near Eugene, on an Oregon Donation Land Claim. Their son George William Gibson, my gg grandfather, was born 6 May 1849 in Warren County, Missouri. Other children included Lewis Dozier Gibson, Susan Lucinda Gibson, Lucinda Jane Gibson, Malinda Paradino Gibson, John Archibald Gibson, and Sarah Ann Gibson. Their son Thomas Milton Gibson was born 22 Oct 1853 in Lane County, Oregon. Their oldest son, Joseph, died in 1835 in Missouri. Elizabeth Kent is the half-sister of Andrew Kent who died at The Alamo. Those who took the southern route to California: John Guinn Ray crossed in 1846, with his second wife Harriet and children including my ggg grandmother, Martha Jane Ray. Martha Jane Ray married John Milton Cantrell, below, whose second wife was Susan Cruse (Crews). Susan Cruse was the widow of Nathaniel Mitchell Ward. Nathaniel Mitchell Ward was the brother of the Alexander Ward who died in the Ward Massacre and the half-brother of James H Ward, the first person I listed at the top of this post. Other/Not sure about John Milton Cantrell, who married Martha Jane Ray, came to Oregon in 1846 and served in the Cayuse War. He emigrated from California to Lane County, Oregon in 1866 per the Mary B "Molly" Cantrell Gibson interview in 4 Aug 1939 Crook County News. Erica Iverson

    04/30/2002 04:52:31
    1. Omega & Alpha (from Aunt Charlottes book)
    2. cchouk
    3. Walt may have a cow with this one, but it's the end and the beginning of "Into The Eye of The Setting Sun". The link does jump to the middle of the page.... to a photo my wife took on our 2000 trip in the Potniac GT1. So after looking into "The Eye of The Setting Sun", scroll back and read the rest. Don't forget that Aunt Charlottet crossed the Oregon Trail with my gr gr grandfather, Nineveh Ford, in 1843. used by permission: " And so I sit here and tell these stories. I have seen them, each to his own place, the thousand pioneers that I came with, Father, Mother, my sisters, the boys and all the rest. I am quite alone. For me the trail of the setting sun has proven a one way road, for I have lived my life almost within sound of the surf. I am an old, old woman. "Thank you very kindly. Good Night" [I hope you have a sound card!] http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~cchouk/oregon_trail/crossing/goodnight.htm#x Cecil Cecil Houk, ET1 USN Ret., AG6I PO Box 530833 San Diego CA 92153 res San Diego CA 92154-3654 NEW EMAIL ADDRESS mailto:cchouk@cox.net ANDERSON-BLAKELY-EGGERS-FORD-HOUK-KIMSEY-MONTGOMERY-RULAFORD-SIMPSON Searchable GEDCOM: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~cchouk See also: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~donhouk My Web pages menu: http://members.cox.net/cchouk/

    04/24/2002 05:12:41
    1. HISTORY OF A PIONEER FAMILY
    2. cchouk
    3. Written by Florence (Courtney) Melton 1857-1926 (In Minnesota) My mother was topping turnips to bury in the root cellar for stock food through the winter. A band of Indians came along, stopped and began eating turnips. She had a small pile of the most perfect ones for seed. One Indian wouldn't take any from the large pile. She told him, "NO!", jerked the turnip out of his hand, threw it down. Father saw there was something wrong. He came to the door of the shop, hand axe in hand. The Indian raised his gun to shoot, but Mother struck the gun down. She called Father to go back in the shop, then turned to the Indians and told them to "pockochee", which is Sioux for "go home!". The other Indians took no part in the squabble. Some of the neighbors thought we would be massacred, but no notice was ever taken of it. Mother was kind to the Indians but she was the master; they had to come to her terms. In looking over the timber on the farm, several sugar maple trees were found, so it was a regular job every spring making maple syrup and sugar. The severe winters proved too much for Father's health. They both longed for their Ohio friends. On the thirtieth of September, 1857, I was born. The other children were so near grown that I was hailed with delight. No doubt I was a fund of pleasure during the long cold winter. To illustrate what the winters were like, the thermometer froze up the six winters we lived there, with the exception of one. Sarah was seventeen the twenty-third of November, 1858. They had a dinner and invited friends. The guests came in sleds and drove over a stake and ridered fence in safety. When she married [Jacob Houk] the eleventh of March, 1859, the same snow was on the ground, and the still drove over the fences, and it snowed so hard the day of the wedding that some of the guests had a narrow escape from being lost. The family became more dissatisfied with the cold and snow. They had an opportunity to sell the farm, and September 1860 saw us bound for Iowa. Jacob Houk was my great grandfather. Their next move would be to Oregon. Sarah and Jacob would settle near Lebanon. The "rest of the story" starts at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cchouk/courtney/ Cecil Houk, ET1 USN Ret., AG6I PO Box 530833 San Diego CA 92153 res San Diego CA 92154-3654 NEW EMAIL ADDRESS mailto:cchouk@cox.net ANDERSON-BLAKELY-EGGERS-FORD-HOUK-KIMSEY-MONTGOMERY-RULAFORD-SIMPSON Searchable GEDCOM: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~cchouk See also: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~donhouk My Web pages menu: http://members.cox.net/cchouk/

    04/24/2002 02:20:59
    1. Aunt Charlotte's Book ( Indians)
    2. When the Indians came to know us better, they came to the house quite freely. They would open the door without rapping, peek in, then sidle around the wall, slipping along as noiselessly as cats in their moccasin feet, and would crouch in front of the fire, never saying a word. When Mother got tired of seeing them there, she would put something on a plate for them to eat. When it was finished, and it always was to the last crumb, slip, slip, slip to the door and they were gone again, as silently as they had entered. There was always an iron kettle of water hanging on a crane over the fire. Mother saw to it that it was always full and ready. As soon as the Indian was gone the place where he had sat was thoughly scalded. Anyone who knows about such things will know that it was a wise precaution. They were all of them alive with creeping things, so distasteful that one even hesitates to name them Walt Davies Monmouth, OR

    04/19/2002 08:22:01
    1. Re: Aunt Charlotte's Book ( Indians)
    2. crystalwoman
    3. This was great to read, thanks..... I live in rural MT and the original homestead here was from the late 1890's and the grandma there at the time wrote about the Indians coming to look in their cabin windows.... Happy Trails, Joan > When the Indians came to know us better, they came to the house quite freely. > They would open the door without rapping, peek in, then sidle around the > wall, slipping along as noiselessly as cats in their moccasin feet, and would > crouch in front of the fire, never saying a word. When Mother got tired of > seeing them there, she would put something on a plate for them to eat. When > it was finished, and it always was to the last crumb, slip, slip, slip to the > door and they were gone again, as silently as they had entered. > > There was always an iron kettle of water hanging on a crane over the > fire. Mother saw to it that it was always full and ready. As soon as the > Indian was gone the place where he had sat was thoughly scalded. Anyone who > knows about such things will know that it was a wise precaution. They were > all of them alive with creeping things, so distasteful that one even > hesitates to name them > > Walt Davies > Monmouth, OR

    04/19/2002 06:37:49
    1. Tabitha Brown, Mother of Oregon
    2. Hazelett
    3. For those of you who have not heard nor read the story of Tabitha Brown, here is a "fair" summary of the legend and some facts of her life which was published in THE OREGONIAN on March 31, 2002, while I was away from home playing. The column is a weekly series on Oregon history and historical figures and sometimes has accurate info. <<http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/john_terry/index.ssf?/xml/story.ssf/html_standard.xsl?/base/news/10174929938754246.xml>> This particular item is based, as almost all of the retellings of Tabitha's life are, from selective quoting of portions of a letter she wrote in 1854 with modern interpretations and explanations. You can find a fact filled description of her family's emigration to Oregon on the OCTA website at: <<http://calcite.rocky.edu/octa/brown.htm>> Books continue to come out with Tabitha Brown's story featured. I just purchased another which was published in 2001; not because I don't know the story but because the author claims to have had access to documents which I think have been lost for several years. Cecil Houk posted the story to the list as part of his website a few days ago; this "oregonlive" link is to the newspaper archive (and will probably not be a live link after another week or two from today). The OCTA website is "permanent" whatever that means in this electronic land of illusions. Stafford

    04/16/2002 05:03:05
    1. Re: Children of the Oregon Trail
    2. Hazel Harley
    3. Some of my ancestors also made the trek from Council Bluffs, Iowa, in 1852. They were Bird and Caroline Virginia (PICKETT) WAGGONER and their 5 children (Susan Frances, Thomas, George, Byrd and Emily). They ranged in age from 7 years (Emily) to 18 years (Susan Frances). Along the way, Father talked to an Indian. He wanted to know if he could buy Susan Frances for his wife and how much would be her price. Father said the price would be 10 spotted ponies. Susan had black hair and was already wearing moccasins. Bird didn't think any more about it, until the Indian returned with the 10 spotted ponies. Bird told the Indian that he had changed his mind and Susan was not for sale. The Indian was not about to forget his bride-to-be. Bird told the Indian that they were preparing Susan for her wedding, and all the while he was recruiting the men with the wagons that were coming along behind his wagon. When he had 150 men recruited, he was able to tell the Indian that Susan was not going to marry him. The Indian finally agreed to not getting Susan for a bride. If the Indian did not agree, my life may have turned out very different. Susan was my gr.gr. grandmother. Would very much like to hear from anyone who also has this WAGGO(E)NER and/or PICKETT family in their lineage. Hazel Harley hharley@mtwi.net

    04/16/2002 04:46:30
    1. Jerman, Turner, Wagner, Adams, Hinkle, Hilton, Crull, Freeman
    2. Kathy Jerman
    3. <P>Hi Listers, This is mainly a test, SORRY I have been having trouble getting my email from various lists that I have subscribed to because, I end getting unsubscribed because they can't get through to my yahoo.com address. i have been subscribed to this list for over a year and I have noticed that I no longer get any email from the list. So I have tried 3 times in the last couple of days to resubscribe to the list. I am not sure if it has worked or not I have not gotten my&nbsp;welcome email, or anything else to let me know that I have be subscribed. Kathy Jerman&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</P> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/

    04/15/2002 09:17:14
    1. Re: Children of the Oregon trail
    2. Richard Smith
    3. I missed the beginning of this thread, but thought the following might be of interest to children. In 1864 my Howard family headed west from Iowa. A close knit family the train was made up almost entirely of family with only 4 hired teamsters and 75 family. One member of the wagon train was NANCY HOWARD, b. 5 June 1850 in Bloomington, IL. Nancy was a striking 14 year old beauty with long blonde hair. The Howards had been traveling for a long time when they came to the Platte River country where were reported to be very warlike tribes of Sioux Indians. One evening a large band of warriors circled on their horses around the Howard camp. The men quietly got their guns and kept a close watch, the train leader, William Henry Howard (and Nancy's father) advised them not to make the first hostile move. The Indians showed a friendly attitude and began coming into the camp. Finally they made known their purpose, expressing that they would like to buy Nancy Howard. It seems that she had been riding her horse behind the wagon train and had been sighted by the Indians who had taken a fancy to her. After calm was restored and the Indians left, Nancy was instructed to stay inside the wagon until they were out of the Sioux country. I have many children in my families who made the trip from 1847 to this one in 1864, including many others on this wagon train, but this is the only one I have with a specific story. Richard C. Smith E-mailto:slugs@gorge.net Home page: Http://www.angelfire.com/wa/family/

    04/15/2002 01:34:27