To unsubscribe you must send a message to [email protected] 1. How to unsubscribe. Send a message to [email protected] that contains (in the body of the message) the command unsubscribe and no additional text. Cecil Mary Bishop wrote: > > UNSUBSCRIBE,, I am haveing trouble opening such a large volume of Mail and > My husband is critically Ill. He is taking all my time. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ..... <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Sunday, April 30, 2000 9:55 PM > Subject: Re: Newbie question > > >Hi all, the names that I am researching .... > > > >Robertson/Robinson, Baucom/Bancom, > >Paul,Colvin,Collins,Kelsay,Eaton,Irvin,Wyland, > >Gribble,Garrett,Harris > > > >Thanks Irma [email protected] > > > > -- Cecil Houk, ET1 USN Ret., AG6I San Diego CA 92154-3654 mailto:[email protected] ANDERSON-BLAKELY-EGGERS-FORD-HOUK-KIMSEY-MONTGOMERY-RULAFORD-SIMPSON Searchable GEDCOM: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cchouk See also: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=doughouk My Web page menu: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cchouk/rulaford/menu.htm

Hi all, the names that I am researching .... Robertson/Robinson, Baucom/Bancom, Paul,Colvin,Collins,Kelsay,Eaton,Irvin,Wyland, Gribble,Garrett,Harris Thanks Irma [email protected]

I had previously posted the names of everyone that I knew were on the 1852 McCULLY wagon train from Iowa to Oregon. I've just posted an every-name index to our book on that train, which includes a lot of relatives, ancestors and descendants, and gravestone names, as well as the travelers themselves. If you find anybody who looks interesting, I'll be glad to share what I know. http://www.netcom.com/~symbios/mccullypeople.html Sandy Wilbur HISTORY/GENEALOGY/BOOKS/CHRISTIANITY/ECOLOGY/NORTHCOUNTRY JOURNAL http://www.netcom.com/~symbios

In a message dated 4/29/00 8:23:10 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Subject: Re: re:trails From: "ken robinson" <[email protected]> >> There are many persons that have researched the trails west from the east and these travelers have to start from somewhere. The Oregon Train just did not spring up and say 'Here I Am Use me' so below is one of the many URLs that I have to offer this list. I have one that has all the stops listed and will find it and send it along for the lister that asked for the third stop on the Oregon Trail. I enjoy helping out others in this history of our country in it's beginning. I have become an avid history buff and my research sometimes suffers for that fact. I have a gr grandfather from Norway that went west from IN but do not know how he traveled or what trail he used. I have not found his surname listed in any of the lists that traveled west but he wound up in ID. Nez Perce Co. If anyone ever runs across the name of Olef/Oleff Smit/Smith Widvey that is my gr grand father and I am peiceing together a story and a part of that is that he took some of his children with him and left one that I know of in IN when he left. That one was my grandmother. Did not mean to get off on a tangent. Enjoy the site. Beej MIGRATION PATTERNS FROM VIRGINIA http://home.hiwaay.net/~bobdf/migrations.html

Hello, Rod Applegate. I have a county History of Douglas Co. Oregon, that has Applegates and todds in it. It is a bit much to type, but I can make copies of the info for y ou, if you wish to send me your snail address. Id love to put it on the site here for everyone, and may sometime. I broke my wrist last Nov. and it tires pretty easy. Sincerely, Carol Broom. Id be glad to check my book for other names, also, for the list folks. Carol B. -----Original Message----- From: Rod Applegate <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, April 29, 2000 10:27 PM Subject: John Pound Applegate >Does anyone have information on John Pound Applegate who came to Oregon about 1852 to Douglas County, Oregon with his father Squire Hammond Applegate and family. John married Mary Ellen Todd in Douglas County, Oregon. >

Hi Trail Fans There's another good list on "trail deaths of 1852" It's at: ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/trail/tradeath.txt And there is a Mary Miller listed, but no Clarks, or Mary Moore. It might be helpful for others on the list. I have read that the fire, and the wagons going over the gravesite was both for predators and Indians to disguise gravesite. Liz Visit the Overland Trail http://www.over-land.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene Pointer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 10:42 AM Subject: Miller, Moore, Clark, Beard 1852 OT and before > Hi, > One of my families of ancestors traversed the Oregon Trail and they came > from NC and TN to IN to Benton County OR. Many Miller's had arrived in > Benton County in the years previous. The last to come was Mary MILLER MOORE > CLARK and her immediate family in 1852. She was buried on Willow Creek, > where the wagon train road crossed. Some believe it was the Willow Creek in > Southern Oregon, but the Oregon Trail also crosses Willow Creek in Morrow > County OR (Northern path). I live only 15 miles from there so romantically, > I would like to have it be here. > The train was led by her husband Captain and Reverend Alvin CLARK. Does > anyone have proof which route this particular wagon train had taken? I > would like to find her grave. > I have been told that the records told that when she was buried they lit > a fire over her grave and all of the wagons traveled directly over it. > Anyone know the reason for that? Disease? Predators or scavengers? This is > a semi-arid prairie type environment. Predators are not prevalent but we > certainly have coyotes, cougars, and all kinds of scavengers. > Thanks for any help. Marlene > > >

I wrote earlier about my 4x great grandparents, George Jacob Wills and his wife Sarah Jane Moore Wills. I now have additional info to add. George Wills was a minister and the wagon master of the Oskaloosa Company that left Mahaska County, Iowa on April 4, 1847 over the Oregon Trail. They were in Oregon by 1848. George and Sarah Wills were from KY, had lived in Clay County, Indiana and had then moved to Mahaska County to make preparation for their migration to Oregon. George and his son, Jacob, took a large sash saw and iron planer with them and established a sawmill on the banks of Johnson Creek in Multnomah County in 1850. This mill turned out the first dressed lumber in the Pacific Northwest.They had no difficulties disposing of all the lumber they could make for about $100. per thousand feet at the mill. Most of the lumber was sent by schooner to the San Francisco, then up the Sacramento River and then out by ox teams to the little town of Coloma (when the Gold Rush began). Later they added a circular saw. According to an article in the Wilwaukie Review of Thursday, May 21, 1953: George and Sarah Wills brought Jacob (m. Lorana Bozarth), Elizabeth (m. David Price), George Washington (m. Mary Ann Lambert), Martha (m. Edward Long), David (m. Mary Henderson), Reuben and Jonathan with them to Oregon. George Wills built the Hard Shell Baptist Church and served as the preacher there for several years. It is said that George did not allow his businesses of farming and runing the sawmill to interfere with his soul-saving activities. In 1876, a school house was built on land donated by Mrs. Jacob Wills (daughter-in-law of George). This building was used continually for school purposes during the week and for Sunday school and church on Sundays until 1902. It was built from lumber cut by the Wills sawmill. In 1889, a brick yard was started by Jacob Wills and he operated it for about 2 years before turning it over to his sons, Alfred and Seth Wills. The first year they were operation, four million bricks were put out. These were used in many of the first brick homes in Portland. All the facing used on the Oregonian Building were made here. The brick yard was in business about 9 years. About all that remains of Willsburg (which was named for George and Sarah Wills) is the train depot and the cemetery where they are buried. Willsburg was incorporated into the town of Milwaukie in the early 1900's. The actual site of Willsburg would be about where Eastmoreland is not situated. If anyone is connected to any of these families or can point me in the right direction to make a connection, I sure would appreciate hearing from you. Lois in CA

>>Hi, I am new to this list. I am hoping to track down some rosters that show the members of specific wagon trains west to Oregon and California. Can anyone recommend good sources? (besides Louis Rasmussen) Thanks much! Sue<< Sue, don't miss Stephenie Flora's website. http://www.teleport.com/~sflora/1847.htm and how about telling us some of your Surnames? Dallas

Hi, I am new to this list. I am hoping to track down some rosters that show the members of specific wagon trains west to Oregon and California. Can anyone recommend good sources? (besides Louis Rasmussen) Thanks much! Sue

Thanks to all the great links from this list, I checked out information on the Bozeman Trail at http://www.wavecom.net/philkearny/btcaphist.htm . The article is specifically mentions "In 1864 four large trains went over the trail and established the route from Casper to where it intersected the Bridger Trail west of Billings." We know that my husband's great-grandmother, Mary M. ZIEGLER arrived in Virginia City, Montana, 7/10/1864, traveling via the "Bozeman Route". It seems possible that she may have been in one of these wagon trains. Does anyone know if information regarding the travelers in these trains exists? Barb Thomas Oakland, CA Researching: THOMAS/KINNEY/ALEXANDER/MIDDLECOFF; GRIM/ZIEGLER or ZEIGLER/MORRISON

Is anyone familiar with the Michel name? My grandmother put my Dad up for adoption in the mid to late 1920's and her name was Lucy Michel (b. 1900 MT), she married Herbert Lee Jones (b. 1891 OK) in the early 1920's probably in Spokane, WA. I believe that Herbert's Anderson relatives (his mother was Sarah Francis "Fannie" Jons) probably came up through the Oregon Trail around 1900. The name Michel isn't very common and so I'd appreciate it if anyone has any knowledge of this name. Thanks, Diane Genealogically examining the ANDERSONS, BECKS, COLLEYS, MICHELS and JONESES of Missouri, Oklahoma and Washington State

Hi, One of my families of ancestors traversed the Oregon Trail and they came from NC and TN to IN to Benton County OR. Many Miller's had arrived in Benton County in the years previous. The last to come was Mary MILLER MOORE CLARK and her immediate family in 1852. She was buried on Willow Creek, where the wagon train road crossed. Some believe it was the Willow Creek in Southern Oregon, but the Oregon Trail also crosses Willow Creek in Morrow County OR (Northern path). I live only 15 miles from there so romantically, I would like to have it be here. The train was led by her husband Captain and Reverend Alvin CLARK. Does anyone have proof which route this particular wagon train had taken? I would like to find her grave. I have been told that the records told that when she was buried they lit a fire over her grave and all of the wagons traveled directly over it. Anyone know the reason for that? Disease? Predators or scavengers? This is a semi-arid prairie type environment. Predators are not prevalent but we certainly have coyotes, cougars, and all kinds of scavengers. Thanks for any help. Marlene

Hi Danny & Jeanette I have links to the Oregon Trail at: http://www.over-land.com/trore.html and links to lots of other trails at: http://www.over-land.com/trwest.html Links to lots of Emigrant Lists at: http://www.over-land.com/westpers1.html And links to lots of Diaries, Journals, etc at: http://www.over-land.com/diaries.html My main web site is about the Overland Trail Stage Route in Colorado and Wyoming where it took off from the main Oregon Trail at Julesburg, and met up again at Fort Bridger. It's at: http://www.over-land.com Thanks Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Danny & Jeanette" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 8:23 PM Subject: Oregon trail URL > Hi Elizabeth, > I am new to the list would you please post your URL for the Oregon > Trail. It sounds like a very interesting site. > >

William Dollarhide has a good book on trails.. Ellie

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 8:22 PM Subject: OREGON-TRAIL-D Digest V00 #18 Hi List, RE: Overland Trails I'm researching how the family of my G-Grandmother (Martha A. Brown) daughter of Thomas Edward and Sophia D. Brown traveled between Texas and Oregon sometime between 1866 and 1869. They were in Marion County for the 1870 Census. I'm also researching my 2nd Great-Grandfather's family, Stephen PORTER and Catherine Jane (COFFEY) PORTER, on the Bolivar WALKER train of 1848. Thanks, Colleen

: >>> The only other trails I've heard of are the Natchez Trace (originated by Indians apparently, running N-S east of Miss. R., the Chisholm Trail originating either KS or MO going west to Albequerque ? and points west, and I think there was a Cherokee Trail from GA to MS. I think. Ken<<< Here are some more Migration Routes: http://www.cob-net.org/docs/brethrenlife_migrations.htm Brethren Migration, Written by Merle C. Rummel ~ Published April, 1998 ~ Last Updated, December, 1999 © This document may be reproduced, only if remaining intact, with full acknowledgement to the author. [Table of Contents] [Bullskin Road] [Zane Trace] [The River] [Kanawha Trace] [Moving West] [Monocacy Road] [Valley Road] [Carolina Road] [Braddock Road] [Wilderness Road] [Canada Road] [Forbes Road] [Delaware Road] [National Road] [Wayne Road] Many of my Quaker ancestors used The Old Wagon Road from PA>NC. Violet Moore Guy 04/30/2000

Kohnen: I did enjoy all of your URLs which you posted on <[email protected]> I especially enjoyed the interperative centers, Timberline Lodge, and info on the Barlow Trail. I grew up in that part of the state -- area that was known as Nansene (on Tygh Ridge), Wasco County, Oregon My family are listed as Early Settlers. -- SEE Barlow Map on website for our house & farm buildings were about 4 miles from the Deschuetes River (Oak Canyon) and about 10 miles, south and east of Dufur. During the 1930s, I attended the 1-room Nansene School. It was there that I developed my keen interest and love of the "Oregon Country" histories & lore.. In Oregon History, we also studied the Indian Wars. Oregon History was a required course of study in about 7th/8th grades. Does any one have a map of the John Fremont Trail (US ARMY)? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^Posted on <[email protected]> >>>>Here's a URL for the museum at FOSTER FARM: http://www.teleport.com/~eotic/fosterfm.html PHILIP FOSTER (b.1805, Maine) was a junior partner with Francis W. Pettygrove (of Maine) and married to Pettygrove's daughter, Mary Charlotte. Pettygrove was an agent of AG/AW Benson and Co. In 1842, Foster, his wife and four children, Pettygrove, wife, and another child set sail on the ship Victoria from New York. After a layover in Hawaii (typical) they arrived in Oregon in early spring 1843 on the ship Fama. They were living over their thriving store in Oregon City(corner of 3rd and Main) by May 1843. In early 1844, Foster bought Samuel McSwain's land claim in Eagle Creek. The Foster family moved to Eagle Creek, June 1844. More at http://www.usgennet.org/alhnorus/ahorclak/timeline1.html<<< >>>I've gathered a list of OREGON TRAIL and Emigrant primary materials (diaries, journals, letters, ship rosters, etc.) for the years 1800-1843. View this list at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/5531/ . Or write me at [email protected] and I'd be happy to email you the most updated listing for a spcific year. Patricia Kohnen<<< Violet Moore Guy 04/30/2000

Roger wrote: > > Cecil: > I was going through your pics and saw your photos of foster lake. > In 1966 I was working on Foster & Greenpeter Dams. > We lived in Lebanon. > I was in the USMC reserve, and was recalled to serve in Vietnam. > I have not returned to that area, so this was quite a site > to see Foster Lake. > You have quite a pic gallery, I only hope that when I get my web page up & > running I can have as good a site. > > [email protected] > ROGER SCOTT > ADDY,WA. Roger: When you get your web site "up and running" it better be as good or I'll come kick your USMC butt! All reality aside; web pages are fun and easy to build. I'm sure glad that Algore invented the internet so we can do this. Cecil -- Cecil Houk, ET1 USN Ret., AG6I San Diego CA 92154-3654 mailto:[email protected] ANDERSON-BLAKELY-EGGERS-FORD-HOUK-KIMSEY-MONTGOMERY-RULAFORD-SIMPSON Searchable GEDCOM: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cchouk See also: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=doughouk My Web page menu: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cchouk/rulaford/menu.htm

Cecil: I was going through your pics and saw your photos of foster lake. In 1966 I was working on Foster & Greenpeter Dams. We lived in Lebanon. I was in the USMC reserve, and was recalled to serve in Vietnam. I have not returned to that area, so this was quite a site to see Foster Lake. You have quite a pic gallery, I only hope that when I get my web page up & running I can have as good a site. [email protected] ROGER SCOTT ADDY,WA.

I'm sorry, Foster Road is Foster Road. There is no Foster Blvd in Portland. Leta D Christiansen wrote: > > I think the Foster Rd in Portland is Foster Blvd. > Isn't Eagle Creek a Park up by Bonniville? It was when I was growing up. > Leta in Sunny Daly City, CA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cecil Houk <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 5:37 PM > Subject: Re: Foster Farm..Eagle Creek > > > Do you know when Phillip Foster arrived in Oregon? Is Foster Road in > > Portland named after that family? When I lived in Portland 1957-1961 > > I knew a ham radio guy Jerry Foster (W7ZF) who was related to the Foster > > Road Fosters. > > > > Cecil > > > > > > Mom wrote: > > > > > > phillip foster came to oregon in the spring of 1843. if you are in the > area > > > you should take the time to visit the foster farm. it is open mid june > > > through the last saturday in september. june /july/august friday > through > > > sunday & september saturday and sunday. hours are 11:00am - 4:00 p.m. > it's > > > really worth the trip. > > > > > > jessie foster humphrey > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 10:47 PM > > > Subject: Re: Foster Farm..Eagle Creek > > > > > > > I have information about the Foster family... will have to dig it out > for > > > > later.... From what I recall, he came to Oregon via Sandwich > Islands... > > > > was it about 1839??? As far as being related to the 1845er Foster > > > > family, I don't think I have anything that would connect them. Since > > > > Philip Foster and my g-g-g grandfather Samuel K. Barlow joint ventured > in > > > > the Barlow Road, I know a bit more about this Foster family. I have > > > > visited the Eagle Creek plaque and stone site mentioned below about > > > > 1982... > > > > > > > > Oregon for the Curious by Ralph Friedman describes Eagle Creek and the > > > > Foster Farm on p. 98-99, under heading, Historical Tour No. 9: > > > > Follow US Highway 26 to Sandy, 24 m. Turn R. or South onto O 211. > This > > > > road follows the path of the Oregon Trailers who took the Barlow > Cutoff. > > > > 2.2.m., on R., Sandy Ridge School, an old schoolhouse. Through the > > > > windows students can see Mt. Hood, horses and meadows. > > > > 3.5 m., on R, old Eagle Creek School--directly South of modern brick > > > > school. Note bell tower above entrance. > > > > 0.1 m., jct., 0 224. > > > > At jct., on L. a plaque on large boulder legends the site of Philip > > > > Foster's farm and business enterprise and the end of the extended > Barlow > > > > Road. Foster's large, well-furnished log cabin was located about 50 > > > > yards back of marker. Thousands of emigrants ate at the Foster > > > > house--the first white dwelling the early pioneers saw in Oregon. > They > > > > paid 50 cents for a dinner consisting of fresh beefsteak, boiled > > > > potatoes, cole slaw and hot biscuits, served with tea or coffee. The > > > > comers turned their stock into the Foster pasture, buying a "cut of > hay" > > > > for their animals. The caravans also could purchase fruit grown in > > > > Foster's orchard, grain ground at his grist mill, and, starting in > 1848, > > > > two years after he opened to Oregon Trail trade medicines, hardware > and > > > > other supplies at his general store. From Eagle Creek the wagons > forded > > > > the Clackamas River, to the West and continued on toward Oregon City > and > > > > other parts of the Willamette Valley. > > > > > > > > Across the road leading to Estacada, and partially hidden by two > trees, > > > > stand three rough-grained, weathered, stone steps, the remains of the > > > > general store Foster owned, and possibly the oldest remains of any > store > > > > in Oregon. > > > > > > > > First house on R beyond stop sign on road leading to Oregon City is > > > > BURNETT HOUSE, built in 1860. Much of the house has been unaltered. > > > > Across the road and in front of a house built in 1887 by one of > Foster's > > > > sons, stands oldest lilac bush in state. It was planted in 1844 from > a > > > > stalk of purple lilac Mrs Philip Foster brought around the Horn. The > > > > lilacs have never failed to bloom. The bush is now more than 35 feet > > > > high, has a width greater than 40 ft. and in circumference measures > more > > > > than 100 ft. > > > > Philip Foster and members of his family are buried in a private > cemetery > > > > on a hill above the jct. > > > > Continue on 0 211. > > > > 5.4 miles: ESTACADA, etc. etc. etc. > > > > > > > > REFERENCE: Ralph Freidman, Oregon for the Curious, c. 1972 Pars > > > > Publishing Co., Portland, Caxton Printers, Caldwell Idaho 1974; my > copy > > > > 4th printing, 3rd Rev. Ed. Oct. 1976 > > > > > > > > Jackie (from state of Washington) > > > > ================================== > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > > > > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > > > > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > > > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > > -- > > Cecil Houk, ET1 USN Ret., AG6I > > San Diego CA 92154-3654 > > mailto:[email protected] > > ANDERSON-BLAKELY-EGGERS-FORD-HOUK-KIMSEY-MONTGOMERY-RULAFORD-SIMPSON > > Searchable GEDCOM: > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cchouk > > See also: > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=doughouk > > My Web page menu: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cchouk/rulaford/menu.htm > > -- Cecil Houk, ET1 USN Ret., AG6I San Diego CA 92154-3654 mailto:[email protected] ANDERSON-BLAKELY-EGGERS-FORD-HOUK-KIMSEY-MONTGOMERY-RULAFORD-SIMPSON Searchable GEDCOM: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cchouk See also: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=doughouk My Web page menu: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cchouk/rulaford/menu.htm