These are some of the Blackwell names in the "Bunchgrass, GOld and Trees" >John (Jack) Blackwell >Mattie Blackwell >Leona, Gene and Jack children of Mattie and John Blackwell >John and Mattie also had Harvey, Nadine and Monroe >Mattie's maiden name was Settle >Jane Blackwell >Joe Blackwell >Mabel Reynolds Blackwell > >Henry and Lillian (Lloyd) Blackwell >Leona Blackwell Turk >Mary Blackwell Carrey >Clement Blackwell >Jeremiah (Dick) Blackwell and wwife Mary Parkerson Blackwell and children >Sopha Retta, John, DIck, Charles, Dot, Lee, Hazel and Frank. >Joe Blackwell >Fanny Shields Blackwell >Herman Blackwell wife of C W Blackwell >George Blackwell >Marie daughter of Herman and Rose Blackwell > >How is this for a start....will keep checking and read the stories... irma >

One of the best ways to tell gold from fools gold is the shadow test. After panning the ore down to the bottom of the pan look for the shiny stuff in the bottom and then hold it up to the sun and hold your hand up to where you can move its shadow over the suspected gold. If it disappears then its fools gold if it stays bright and gold colored then its gold. Although gold that is found in the field is not shiny it does have a glow that stands out from all over things in the pan. I wonder why someone would pick up a nugget and not know that it was gold as he most likely had a gold piece or two in his pocket to check it with. Also most nuggets found in the stream beds are quite small and would have been lost if tossed into the back of a wagon. As I said this is a nice story to tell all those who would listen but it does have a few big holes in it. I have no doubt that it was told and I have no doubt that people are still looking for the gold mine I only wonder why. Walt Davies

Walt, you laughed at, and made light of the article submitted re the "gold story" as being fools gold, etc. BUT, fools gold is not "Mica" as you stated but rather one of the various metallic pyrites, such as iron pyrite, which is the most common one we refer to. No "BULL", no "fool . . .etc." What was that old phrase about "laughing", or ". . .laughs last. . ." ? We all learn from our mistakes . . . . in time. Carroll in Snohomish, WA. * * * 30 * * *

Jan: Fielding and Lucinda (Moore) Lewis departed MO with eight children. He arrived in (I guess) Linn CO, OR with five children and no wife. Cecil Name: Fielding Lewis Birth: 27 JUN 1811 in Claiborne Co., TN Death: 27 SEP 1866 in Albany, Linn Co., OR Father: Fielding Lewis b: 15 MAY 1767 in VA Mother: Mary Gamble b: 1773 in VA Marriage 2 Lucinda Moore Birth: 1813 in Claiborne Co., TN Death: 28 AUG 1852 along Oregon Trail, near Birch Creek, on Snake River, OR Territory Married: ABT. 1829 in prob. Claiborne Co., TN Children 1. James Preston Lewis b: 17 SEP 1830 in Wabash Co., ILL 2. David J. Lewis b: 22 NOV 1832 in Wabash Co., IL 3. William Lewis 4. Mary Ellen Lewis b: 1838 in Wabash Co., IL Death: 12 OCT 1852 near Ft. Vancouver, OR Territory. 5. Charles Wesley Lewis b: 1840 in Wabash Co., IL Death: 6 SEP 1852 in along Oregon Trail, near Burnt River, in E. OR, OR Territory 6. George Washington Lewis b: 8 DEC 1842 in prob. Linn Co., MO 7. Sarah Ann Lewis b: 13 DEC 1845 in prob. Linn Co., MO 8. John Marion Lewis b: 1849 in prob. Linn Co., MO Death: 18 SEP 1852 along Oregon Trail, near Upper Cascades, on Columbia River, OR Territory -- Cecil Houk, ET1 USN Ret., AG6I San Diego CA 92154-3654 mailto:[email protected] ANDERSON-BLAKELY-EGGERS-FORD-HOUK-KIMSEY-MONTGOMERY-RULAFORD-SIMPSON Searchable GEDCOM: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cchouk See also: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=doughouk My Web page menu: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cchouk/rulaford/menu.htm

If you are referring to the original message....it could be a variation.. I was quoting from an "memoirs of Long Creek" by Stewart L. Harryman..... irma [email protected]

That is what some of the old timers said also... a post script to the article.. "Later, at a time when Jack Harryman was U.S. Ranger at Unity, we discussed the possible location of the mine. Using the story told me by the old emigrant, plus other known facts, together with our intimate knowledge of the country, we diecided that the famous old Blue Bucket mine must have been either Jeff Davis Creek at Prairie City or Canyon Creek at Canyon City. Both streams were known by the nuggets found in them by early prospectors in this area"...irma [email protected]

Roger, Minnie Irvin Gamble was my grandmother's sister. Her husband had a mill in Monument and in 1900 he donated the building for the church. irma [email protected]

My family on both sides have been early settlers of the NW. My parents and grandparents (Robertson's) homesteaded in Monument, Oregon. My grandfather also drove freight wagons. They were in Nez Perce Idaho and Sparta et al working the mines for awhile also. My grandmother (Irvin) met my grandfather in Sparta when it was a gold town, actually they met when they were children. My Grandmother's family, (Gribble, Wyland et al) came west in wagons. Even had to take the oath of allegiance. They homesteaded in the Clackamas County area. My great grandfather RObertson/Robinson came west from Missouri as a boy to the gold fields in Ca and then they settled in Lane Co. In 1880's they moved to Colfax, WA area. So all of these "Old west" stories are fun to me. Thanks to all who share them...irma [email protected]

Hi Walt. Just thought Id add my question to this. Couldnt the creek have been down in volume? If so, a little of the yellow stuff may have been in a small crevace above the new water line? Carol B. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 10:35 PM Subject: Re: Tale of GOld >As someone who has panned for gold all over the west I have only this to say. >"BULL" >1. Gold is heavier than any other thing in the river bottom and will seek out >the lowest point to settle in. >2. If he found the gold on the top then it had to be placed there only a >very, very short time before as the natural vibrations in the earths crust >would have moved it to that lowest point. >3. When I demonstrate gold panning it only takes a few shakes of the pan to >make a gold ring go from the top to the bottom of the pan. >4. Any body who knows this would have said: "Sure you found it right there on >top of the gravel, must have been fools gold" ( fools gold Mica is lighter >than the sand and will lay on top of it.) > >Giggle giggle >Well folks as someone said a few years ago "There is a fool born every >minute." > >Actually these stories get passed around so much that they take on a life of >their own and sooner ot later some fool believes them. They do make good >movies though and I am the fool who goes to see them. >Walt Davies >

Got a few "Blackwell" stories..... "Will Blackwell, son of Richard's first marriage, whose mother died in Fox. So some say she starved. Will was a great athlete. His uncles would take him to SUmpter and other gatherings of miners and bet on him to win races and wrestling matches." fun huh...irma From book referred to in earlier messages and of course with permission of the producers of the book/

Makes a good story for an old timer to hand down...eh? irma

As someone who has panned for gold all over the west I have only this to say. "BULL" 1. Gold is heavier than any other thing in the river bottom and will seek out the lowest point to settle in. 2. If he found the gold on the top then it had to be placed there only a very, very short time before as the natural vibrations in the earths crust would have moved it to that lowest point. 3. When I demonstrate gold panning it only takes a few shakes of the pan to make a gold ring go from the top to the bottom of the pan. 4. Any body who knows this would have said: "Sure you found it right there on top of the gravel, must have been fools gold" ( fools gold Mica is lighter than the sand and will lay on top of it.) Giggle giggle Well folks as someone said a few years ago "There is a fool born every minute." Actually these stories get passed around so much that they take on a life of their own and sooner ot later some fool believes them. They do make good movies though and I am the fool who goes to see them. Walt Davies

We all follow your steps quite [email protected] ROGER SCOTT ADDY,WA. Researching: SCOTT GAMBLE ROBINSON HITCHCOCK SATTERWHITE MERRELL KNOX WILKINSON KROLL BLACKWELL OCHOCINSKI ESSEX & more Researching for the future, AND Honoring the Past

Sandy Wilber: I did a fast ck of you web page http://www.netcom.com/~symbios Very interesting. I will go back and do a full ck out, and from what I seen I won't be sorry. Keep up the good work. I went to high school in Nehalem,OR.,Then to Cascade College in Portland.I know the Gresham area some what. It is beautiful country in that area. [email protected] ROGER SCOTT ADDY,WA. Researching: SCOTT GAMBLE ROBINSON HITCHCOCK SATTERWHITE MERRELL KNOX WILKINSON KROLL BLACKWELL OCHOCINSKI ESSEX & more Researching for the future, AND Honoring the Past

the following is an exerpt from the book "Bunchgrass, Gold and Trees" put together by Reiba Carter Smith and Louetta Zumwalt Shaw.... (From the Memoirs of Stewart L Harryman) "Speaking of gold, once an old man who came across to Oregon in a wagon train, told the following story: He said that at that time he was only a boy. Before leaving Farewell Bend, the leaders decided to change their course, due to the Bannock Indian War. So, instead of the customary route, they turned off and came by Old Baldy mountain. They followed the main John Day down the river, he said, they encountered marshy ground. At a small stream where they camped, one of the men picked up some shiny yellow rocks from the stream bed, and tossed them in his wagon. Months later, after they arrived in Oregon City, the man showed the rocks to a friend as he was cleaning out his wagon box. To his amazement, his friend became excited, declaring the "rocks" to be golden nuggets. Asked where he had picked up the nuggets, the man could not recall. However, the train had come down the main John Day, following a course that lay beside Baldy Mountain; also he recalled that someone had thrown away a leaky blue bucket. Since then hundreds of people have tried to find the lost Blue Bucket mine, searching as far off course as the Ochoco Mountains." irma [email protected]

Clever!!! Actually, I found the marriage of Erastus Rosencranz..notice the spelling is wrong. I can't remember who was looking for him but just in case.. ROSECRATZ, ERASTUS marr. CLUATE, MARY JANE 22/04/1855 I am curious where your "Robinson" came from? irma [email protected]

In Hamlet we learn that Rosenkrantz and Guildenstern are dead. [:>) Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: ..... <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 7:32 PM Subject: RE: Rosencranz et al > Hi...could the person who was searching for this name please email me again. > I lost your address.. thanks irma [email protected] >

Hi...could the person who was searching for this name please email me again. I lost your address.. thanks irma [email protected]

I have family from my maternal and paternal side of the family that came on wagon trains but I have not been able to connect them with a specific one. My 2 great grandfather Moses True Dyer arrived in Oregon August 27, 1852 from Illinois and settled in Mytle Creek Oregon. The story handed down was most of the train he was on parted company somewhere in Idaho and headed to Ca. and were killed by Indians. Another 2 great grandfather Alpheus Ireland and family I believe came from Indiana in 1852 also settling in Myrtle Creek, Oregon. My paternal 2 great grandfather Henderson Iles arrived in Douglas County Oregon Sept. 1 1852 and not sure where he was from but he was born in Tennessee...Is there a data base at this time on people who came in 1852? Any help will be appreciated....Sincerely, Lorelee Iles Dendauw, Oregon

Is any one researching the Chitwood family that went to Oregan? Tks. Julie