Oregon Trail supporters and friends. TRY THESE WEBSITES....if you have worn out your others. The Oregon-California Trails Association, founded in 1982, is a not-for-profit organization, headquartered in Independence, Missouri, dedicated to education about, preservation and enjoyment of the the trans-Mississippi emigrant trails. We operate a large bookstore dedicated to offering the best available titles on the emigrant experience. We also publish the scholarly Overland Journal as well as our quarterly newsletter, News From the Plains, both of which are mailed as a benefit of membership. Our Emigrant Trails Historic Studies Series publishes monographs dealing with the emigrant experience. In addition to this website, OCTA sponsors the Overland Trails Mailing List, an Internet discussion list for questions about the emigrant trails. http://www.ukans.edu/kansas/seneca/oregon/mainpage.html 1996 marks the 150th anniversary of the Applegate Trail By the Spring of 1846, the brothers had settled in the Willamette Valley of Oregon, planted crops and built cabins, but they were determined to find a safer, more secure route for emigration. Charles stayed home to care for the family and land. Lindsay and Jesse, along with Levi Scott and ten others formed a scouting party to be known as the the South Road Expedition. On June 20, 1846, they left La Creole Creek (now Rickreall) near Dallas, Oregon on their journey south. http://www.webtrail.com/applegate/ END OF THE OREGON TRAIL INTERPRETIVE CENTER http://www.teleport.com/~eotic/ How to Find the End of the Oregon Trail OREGON TRAIL HISTORY LIBRARY Emigrant Biographies and Pioneer Diaries Map Library Local Historic Sites Other Museums in Oregon California Wagon Trail http://www.californiawagontrail.com/train_diary.htm The Legends of the Old West are a group of folks headquartered in Spokane, Washington. They are dedicated to the preservation of our western heritage. In particular, that period of time from 1850 to 1890 known as the Great Migration. Each Legend portrays a character from the past and has studied their character in detail. Their costumes and regalia also represent their historic individual and their time period. http://www.cet.com/~legends/ Explorer John Fremont became one of America's biggest heroes because of his journeys west along the Oregon Trail in 1842 and 1843. He got the job largely because his wife's father was the powerful Missouri senator Thomas Hart Benton. http://www.isu.edu/~trinmich/Discoverers.html#Fremontanchor Fish and Wildlife on the Oregon Trail: Then and Now, JOURNALS ON THIS SITE. http://www.orst.edu/Dept/ODFW/trail/ This ensemble was awarded the Most Historic Female Costume of 1996 in Laramie, WY by the National Association of Old West Gunfighter Teams. http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/Stage/6608/OurCostumeCo.html ---Oregon Trail Travelers performance schedule. June 15-18, 2000 Discovery Center The Dalles, OR July 1-2, 2000 Marymoor Heritage Festival Redmond, WA July 15-16, 2000 Emigrant Springs State Park Mecheum, OR Aug 12-13, 2000 Dufur Threshing Bee Dufur, OR Sept 7-10, 2000 Circle Your Wagons Vale, OR Sep 29-30, 2000 Champoeg, OR Oct 6-8, 2000 Apple Days Cashmere, WA http://www.ottravelers.com/welcome.html Founded in 1985, The Montana Gunslingers, Inc. are by reputation the most historically correct gunfight re-enactment team in Montana. The Montana Gunslingers, Inc. are dedicated to preserving the history of the Old West from the period of 1850 to the 1890's. This is evident in both the firearms and wardrobe used. We strive to perform the most authentic portrayals of the well known and not so well known gunfights of that era. http://www.montanagunslingers.com/ We're a national/international organization of living history enthusiasts & participants who celebrate the spirit & legends of the 1800’s American Frontier. http://www.oldwest.org/ Eastern Oregon--Home of the Steens Mountain, Alvord Desert, Malheur Wild Life Refuge and folklore of the rugged West. http://www.central-oregon.com/hoteldiamond/area.html

Hi Sherry I am sending these HALES names because they have a link the Ontario Canada, which you mentioned in your great great REID, MORRISON, HALES letter. It seems a completely different line than mine though. Thanks again. Laura Chushcoff Catherine Elliot wrote to me about HALES in Canada. Amos Hales b 4 Sept 1844 in Colburg(?), Ontario, Canada, d 5 Aug 1818 Minneapolis, Minnesota m abt 1868 to Mary Jane (?) b 16 Jul 1851 d 13 Mar1871. Had a son named William Henry Crenious Hales b 21 Nov 1869 at Port Hope, Ontario, Canada d 1 Jan 1943 at Port Angeles, Washington, m abt 1893 Margaret MacEachern b 23 Dec 1867 Glendale, Nova Scotia, Canada d 30 Jun 1964 at Port Angeles, Washington. William and Margaret had seven children all born in the States: Mary Sarah Hales b 15 May 1894 in Helena, Montana m Wilbur Wesley Flint 30 May 1916 in Whitefish, Montana d 01 Nov 1961 in Shelton, Mason, Washington Jessie Miasa Hales b 04 Oct 1895 d 09 Sept 1910 James Amos Hales b 12 Feb 1898 d 22 April 1965 Margaret Hales 27 Jan 1900 Alice Christina Hales b 23 Feb 1902 Ester Hales b 19 May 1904 d 14 Apr 1911 Ella May Hales b 04 Apr 1906

I wonder would it be possible that personal messages directed to specific individuals could be sent to them at their e-mail address and not to everyone on the list the list? Laura C wrote: > Sherry Kaseberg, Laura Chushcoff in Seattle here. > > I can't thank you enough for your wonderful message about-- > > Jesse O. HALES married 1892 Grace MORRISON of Adams, Oregon. She was born > about 1870 of New Zealand the daughter of John MORRISON and Grace REID of > Glasgow, Scotland and New Zealand. > > I have been searching for a year for some history. I traveled to the Morrow > Co. Museum and the Umatilla Historical Society have been helpful too. > > Your story is definitely a "beginning" to my year long search. > Thank you again, > Laura Chushcoff, Seattle

Sherry Kaseberg, Laura Chushcoff in Seattle here. I can't thank you enough for your wonderful message about-- Jesse O. HALES married 1892 Grace MORRISON of Adams, Oregon. She was born about 1870 of New Zealand the daughter of John MORRISON and Grace REID of Glasgow, Scotland and New Zealand. I have been searching for a year for some history. I traveled to the Morrow Co. Museum and the Umatilla Historical Society have been helpful too. Your story is definitely a "beginning" to my year long search. Thank you again, Laura Chushcoff, Seattle

Listers, My gggrandparents were Lucinda TURNER PORTER who married William HALES. Hope to find some links from the following!! They settled near Heppner, Morrow Co. Oregon, then on to Waitsburg, Washington. **Her mother was Susanna GIBSON b. 1817, from Lincoln Co. Missouri. She remarried Stephen PORTER in Oregon. For GIBSON, TURNER, STANDISH link see this personal site. http://users.moscow.com/dnorman/TURNER.HTM For links to MILES STANDISH OF THE MAYFLOWER See this personal website http://users.moscow.com/dnorman/Myles.htm Winslow TURNER's FIRST wife. Molly Sarah STANDISH Children by Molly Sarah STANDISH Winslow Miles Elisa Sarah Sally Deborah Phebe Mahala Winslow Turner's SECOND wife. Elizabeth Williams Children by Elizabeth WILLIAMS Aaron Mary **Alfred b. abt 1810, Lincoln County, Missouri. m. 02 Feb 1837, in Lincoln County, Missouri, Susanna GIBSON, b. abt 1817. (MY GGGG) Children by Susanna GIBSON Lucinda TURNER married William HALES, Oregon & WA. Susanna GIBSON REMARRIED Stephen PORTER in Oregon Laura in Seattle GIBSON, TURNER, PORTER, HALES, GALLOWAY, FUDGE

Searching Margaret Ann SHELTON married to Thomas Marion "Bud" FINE b. 19 Oct 1860 d. 1 Jan 1935 Silverton, Marion Co. Oregon. I found these SHELTON's in the Oregon Trail list of 1847 on Stephenie FLORA's website. A MUST SEE, LOOKUP!!! http://www.teleport.com/~sflora/1847.htm SHELTON, A. M. ( - ): m'd 1850 BEDWELL, Elisha SHELTON, Haman ( -1876): m'd FITZGERALD, Priscilla SHELTON, Harvey (1822-1893): m'd 1852 THOMAS, Caroline SHELTON, James (1828- ): m'd MELHOLLAND, Theresa J. SHELTON, Mary E. (1837- ): m'd HUNT, Enoch Laura in Seattle

> Does your gggranduncle mention any surnames in his > account? How about the name of the wagon train master? > Just interested as my family came in October 1852. > Thanks, Diane My Powers family came on the Gibson Train, and arrived at Oregon in October of 1852. I posted a query about the Gibson Train just a little while ago, and I got a response from a descendant of the Gibson Train's Gibsons!!! Wow. Of course, my luck being what it is, she was scheduled to go on vacation a day or two after she wrote, and she kept to schedule, so now I have to wait around for several more days while she is out water skiing or whatever she does on vacation. Before the Dreaded Vacation hit, I learned that the captain of the Gibson Train, 1852 from Pike Co., Illinois was Daviess Gibson, son of Samuel Gibson, and brother of George Gibson, all of Pike Co., Ill. Two of 'em were married to Ingalls people, Joseph and Sophronia Ingalls. And it was really the Gibson-Ingalls Train. I don't know any other names from this train yet. Gotta wait. At the library I found a book, "On To Oregon," about another bunch who arrived at Oregon in 1852. Among the names are: * Mary Ellen Todd (later Mrs. Applegate) and her bros John and Elijah, and her sisters Louvina and Cynthia, plus mom 'n' dad (not named) * The Grant family, with son David * The Tedrose family * Sarah Jane __?__ (possibly Grant or Tedrose) * The Clark family, mom 'n' dad and four kids, Jessee and three others (mom 'n' dad 'n' Jessee died on the trail), and the widow Mrs. McReynolds (nee Clark), with five kids, one being Rebecca McReynolds. The Clarks had captained a train that the Todds met up with late in the trek. Mr. and Mrs. Clark, and son Jessee, died on the trail, and their remaining three kids were taken in by Mrs. McReynolds (Clark). * A brief mention is made of "Joab Powell's large train" in passing. So, there's a few folk. I am only a green newbie about Oregon Trails, so there ain't no mo' for now. Lester Powers [email protected] ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

The mouth of any river o stream is where empties into another body of water. Your letter said that it was at the Colombia river look there for it. Walt Davies

Grace REID was born October 20, 1833 in Scotland to William REID and Elizabeth CLARK of Old Monkland Parish near Glasgow, also towns of Cuilhill, Bargeddie, Dykehead, coalmining communities. William Reid was a collier. From the records of the Old Monkland Parish Register: Children of William and Elizabeth Clark Reid: Grace October 22, 1833 Ann August 8, 1835, christened September 6, 1835 Elizabeth September 16, 1840, chr September 20, 1840 Old Monkland Par. Isabella Martin April 2, 1843, chr April 30, 1843 William July 19, 1845, chr July 24, 1845 Janet August 13, 1847, chr August 29, 1847 Richard November 4, 1849, chr December 2, 1849 Jane December 19, 1850, chr January 18, 1851 Andrew Martin January 25, 1854, chr March 16 1854 "Posthumous" [William Reid, collier of Dykehead, was deceased when Andrew was born.] The 1851 census of Old Monkland Parish, Dykehead, Scotland, District #6, House #31: William Reid 38 coal miner born Chestershire, England Elizabeth Reid 36 born Barony [Scotland] Elizabeth Reid 10 born Old Monkland, as were the rest of the children: Isabella Reid 8 William Reid 6 Janet Reid 4 Richard Reid 1. Old Monkland Parish, Proclamation of Marriage October 21, 1833, William Reid and Elizabeth Clark, both in this parish, to be proclaimed. Looking at the Scottish map, from Glasgow, east: Baillieston, Bargeddie, Coatbridge, and to the south somewhat Dykehead, actually two of them, one closer to Glasgow. It appears that our Dykehead would be the one closer to Baillieston, only a few houses in this time period. Grace Reid 1833-1899 died in Umatilla County, OR. She married John MORRISON in Scotland in 1853. Her mother, Elizabeth Clark, was born in Barony, Scotland 1815, died 1866, married William Reid 1832 Old Monkland Parish, Scotland. Parents of Elizabeth CLARK REID were Richard Clark and Elizabeth Kilpatrick. John MORRISON was born November 18, 1827 in Scotland, died February 8, 1903 near Athena, Umatilla County, OR, buried at Athena with wife Grace Reid Morrison. John left Scotland to live in New Zealand. On February 9, 1876, John and Grace left Auckland on the North Island and arrived in San Francisco March 9, 1876, sailed up the west coast on the ship ORAFLAME, then by boat up the Columbia River to Wallula, on to Walla Walla where they bought wagons to go to Adams, by the third week in March. John was the son of John Morrison and Elizabeth Mathie. This John was born inScotland, married by the minister of Chapel of Ease in Glasgow, Archibald Rennie, banns November 23, 1823, married December 12, 1823. John was a weaver, shopkeeper and contractor. He died June 26, 1849, buried Glasgow. Elizabeth Mathie Reid died June 6, 1852 or 1853, buried Glasgow. They had two known children: John who married Grace Reid; and Mathie "Uncle Mat" Morrison who was born May 30, 1829 Scotland, died October 16, 1889, buried Rose Cemetery, E of Moro, Sherman County, OR, unmarried. Mathie Morrison left Scotland as a sailor, visited New Zealand, Australia and the American W coast and Canada. He urged his brother John to locate in NZ, then urged him to come to Oregon. Mathie homesteaded at Monkland, a hamlet E of Moro, named for Monkland in Ontario, Canada which is named for the old Monkland Parish, near Glasgow. Mathie willed his holdings to two nieces, Grace Elizabeth Morrison Hales and Eliza Clarke Morrison Bradley. Submitted by Sherry Woods Kaseberg who is connected to Morrison by McLachlan. ----- Original Message ----- From: Laura C <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 11:02 PM Subject: HEPPNER MORROW COUNTY OREGON > Listers, searching OREGON HALES, > > McINTYRE, HALES, MCCORMACK > > HBA HALES was my gggrandfathers brother who settled in Oregon, Morrow Co. > Heppner, Butter Creek then Waitsburg, Washington. > > Any links? > > Jesse O. HALES > Born about 1868 of Henry County, Iowa the son of Hugh Byron Americus HALES > and Susan STUBBS. Married 1892 Grace MORRISON of Adams, Oregon. She was born > about 1870 of New Zealand the daughter of John MORRISON and Grace REED of > Glasgow, Scotland and New Zealand. > Children: > F- Hilda HALES; born about 1893 of Umatilla County, Oregon; married about > 1915 J. E. McCORMACK. > M- John Hugh HALES; born about 1895 of Umatilla County, Oregon; married > about 1920 Kathryn Bertine McINTYRE. > > > McINTYRE, HALES, MCCORMACK > Laura in Seattle > > > >

No, the town of Sandy is located on Highway 26 going to Mt. Hood from Portland. The Sandy River flows from there to the Columbia Riveras previously stated, but the town located near the mouth is Troutdale north of Gresham. The Willamette River also runs off the Columbia River but runs south through the heart of Portland down through the lush green Willamette valley. The two rivers basically run the same direction and don't cross. Mary Houser in Gresham Oregon -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Hughes <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 5:33 AM Subject: Re: What is the "mouth of [the] Sandy"? >My last response to this was rather short....but I checked with my husband >who checked the map. The Sandy River flows from the Cascade mountains near >Mt. Hood, and empties into the Columbia River near Gresham (between The >Dalles and Portland). >Kathy > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Lester M Powers <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 11:32 PM >Subject: What is the "mouth of [the] Sandy"? > > >> My great-great granduncle's memoir of the Oregon >> Trail says this about proceeding west from The Dalles, >> Oregon in 1852: >> >> "We moved along the best we could on the Short fuel >> untill we go to the Dales it was the to late to get over >> the mountains So my Father made arrangements to go down >> the river in one of the Hudsonbay Co Barges and my >> Brothers drove the Stock down the Old Pack trail It was >> just 6 months to a day from the time we crost the Misouri >> River untill we landed at the mouth of Sandy on the >> Columbia River >> "From the mouth of Sandy We went up the valey to >> the forks of the Willamette My Father and 4 oldest >> Brothers located Donation claims there a little North and >> East of where the Town of Springfield Now Stands. This >> was long before Springfield was located" >> >> What is "the mouth of [the] Sandy"? I gather that >> the family arrived at The Dalles, Oregon, in September >> or October, 1852 and decided to ride a barge west down >> the Columbia River. Somehow they then got to Lane >> County, Oregon, in the Willamette Valley, from the >> Columbia River. I imagine that they simply traveled >> south along the Willamette River from the Columbia >> River. Would "Sandy" be the place where the >> Willamette River joins the Columbia River? >> >> Lester Powers >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________ >> YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! >> Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! >> Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: >> http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. >> > >

My last response to this was rather short....but I checked with my husband who checked the map. The Sandy River flows from the Cascade mountains near Mt. Hood, and empties into the Columbia River near Gresham (between The Dalles and Portland). Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: Lester M Powers <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 11:32 PM Subject: What is the "mouth of [the] Sandy"? > My great-great granduncle's memoir of the Oregon > Trail says this about proceeding west from The Dalles, > Oregon in 1852: > > "We moved along the best we could on the Short fuel > untill we go to the Dales it was the to late to get over > the mountains So my Father made arrangements to go down > the river in one of the Hudsonbay Co Barges and my > Brothers drove the Stock down the Old Pack trail It was > just 6 months to a day from the time we crost the Misouri > River untill we landed at the mouth of Sandy on the > Columbia River > "From the mouth of Sandy We went up the valey to > the forks of the Willamette My Father and 4 oldest > Brothers located Donation claims there a little North and > East of where the Town of Springfield Now Stands. This > was long before Springfield was located" > > What is "the mouth of [the] Sandy"? I gather that > the family arrived at The Dalles, Oregon, in September > or October, 1852 and decided to ride a barge west down > the Columbia River. Somehow they then got to Lane > County, Oregon, in the Willamette Valley, from the > Columbia River. I imagine that they simply traveled > south along the Willamette River from the Columbia > River. Would "Sandy" be the place where the > Willamette River joins the Columbia River? > > Lester Powers > [email protected] > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. >

My father worked for a man called Pat Bonney in Maupin, Wasco County Oregon in 1946-47, he hauled cattle to Portland from Maupin and surrounding areas. Clara ----- Original Message ----- From: Sherry Kaseberg <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 6:09 PM Subject: Re: OREGON-TRAIL-D Digest V00 #49 > Kuck and Bonney's saddle shop was in The Dalles, Wasco County! > Sherry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Marlene Pointer <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 6:26 PM > Subject: Re: OREGON-TRAIL-D Digest V00 #49 > > > > There were Bonney's in the Portland area in the '50's because my dad > bought > > a saddle from him. His shop was call Kuck and Bonney's Saddle shop. The > > saddles were handmade. > > He could have come from the Umatilla area originally because my folks > were > > from Morrow and Gilliam Co. and that may be how my dad knew of him. > > > > Marlene > > > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: Lester M Powers <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 11:32 PM Subject: What is the "mouth of [the] Sandy"? > My great-great granduncle's memoir of the Oregon > Trail says this about proceeding west from The Dalles, > Oregon in 1852: > > "We moved along the best we could on the Short fuel > untill we go to the Dales it was the to late to get over > the mountains So my Father made arrangements to go down > the river in one of the Hudsonbay Co Barges and my > Brothers drove the Stock down the Old Pack trail It was > just 6 months to a day from the time we crost the Misouri > River untill we landed at the mouth of Sandy on the > Columbia River > "From the mouth of Sandy We went up the valey to > the forks of the Willamette My Father and 4 oldest > Brothers located Donation claims there a little North and > East of where the Town of Springfield Now Stands. This > was long before Springfield was located" > > What is "the mouth of [the] Sandy"? I gather that > the family arrived at The Dalles, Oregon, in September > or October, 1852 and decided to ride a barge west down > the Columbia River. Somehow they then got to Lane > County, Oregon, in the Willamette Valley, from the > Columbia River. I imagine that they simply traveled > south along the Willamette River from the Columbia > River. Would "Sandy" be the place where the > Willamette River joins the Columbia River? > > Lester Powers > [email protected] > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. >

Lester, You might enjoy putting your land names in this mapping site. USGS*******MAPPING FOR ANYTHING, CHURCHES, CREEKS, BRIDGES, CEMETERIES. BE SURE TO PUT ALL YOUR SURNAMES IN THIS MAP SITE….GREAT FUN. http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html Look up your land donation claims on this site. BLM LAND RECORDS http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ Archives has everything, you can order death records online. BEST RESEARCH SITE IN OREGON, OREGON STATE ARCHIVES IN SALEM, THEY ALSO HAVE A ONLINE DATABASE. http://159.121.115.13/databases/aboutlocator.html Lists of names that came to Oregon. SEARCH FOR YOUR SURNAMES ON OREGON TRAIL LISTS http://www.teleport.com/~sflora/ortrail.htm Enjoy Laura -----Original Message----- From: Lester M Powers [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 11:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: What is the "mouth of [the] Sandy"? My great-great granduncle's memoir of the Oregon Trail says this about proceeding west from The Dalles, Oregon in 1852: "We moved along the best we could on the Short fuel untill we go to the Dales it was the to late to get over the mountains So my Father made arrangements to go down the river in one of the Hudsonbay Co Barges and my Brothers drove the Stock down the Old Pack trail It was just 6 months to a day from the time we crost the Misouri River untill we landed at the mouth of Sandy on the Columbia River "From the mouth of Sandy We went up the valey to the forks of the Willamette My Father and 4 oldest Brothers located Donation claims there a little North and East of where the Town of Springfield Now Stands. This was long before Springfield was located" What is "the mouth of [the] Sandy"? I gather that the family arrived at The Dalles, Oregon, in September or October, 1852 and decided to ride a barge west down the Columbia River. Somehow they then got to Lane County, Oregon, in the Willamette Valley, from the Columbia River. I imagine that they simply traveled south along the Willamette River from the Columbia River. Would "Sandy" be the place where the Willamette River joins the Columbia River? Lester Powers [email protected] ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

My great-great granduncle's memoir of the Oregon Trail says this about proceeding west from The Dalles, Oregon in 1852: "We moved along the best we could on the Short fuel untill we go to the Dales it was the to late to get over the mountains So my Father made arrangements to go down the river in one of the Hudsonbay Co Barges and my Brothers drove the Stock down the Old Pack trail It was just 6 months to a day from the time we crost the Misouri River untill we landed at the mouth of Sandy on the Columbia River "From the mouth of Sandy We went up the valey to the forks of the Willamette My Father and 4 oldest Brothers located Donation claims there a little North and East of where the Town of Springfield Now Stands. This was long before Springfield was located" What is "the mouth of [the] Sandy"? I gather that the family arrived at The Dalles, Oregon, in September or October, 1852 and decided to ride a barge west down the Columbia River. Somehow they then got to Lane County, Oregon, in the Willamette Valley, from the Columbia River. I imagine that they simply traveled south along the Willamette River from the Columbia River. Would "Sandy" be the place where the Willamette River joins the Columbia River? Lester Powers [email protected] ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Hi folks A "pole bridge" would have been made by pine tree "poles" (the tree trunk, with branches removed) lashed together by rawhide, or twine woven out of branches over a river or stream--kind of like a bridge over a ravine seen in old western movies. A corduroy bridge (or "road" is the usual term) would have been pine poles laid side by side over a muddy area, not a stream, but wet and slushy, that would allow the stage coach or wagon to pass over without sinking down into the mud. There are places along the Overland Trail in Wyoming today that still have the "corduroy" logs in place, especially near the Big Laramie River west of Laramie. Elizabeth Visit the Overland Trail http://www.over-land.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lester M Powers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 10:21 PM Subject: What is a "pole bridge"? > One of my family folk wrote an Oregon Trail > memoir (very brief) and mentions a "pole bridge" in > Kansas, 1852, thus: > > "My Father, Mother & Brothers and 1 sister I was the > Youngest. I was 11 years old July 26 That year we was > threatened by the Indians whoo had taken possession of a > Pole bridge built by the Indians across a Small Stream in > a wet brushy bottom the Indians were Demanding toll for > crossing the Bridge just at the time we got there the > Emigrants had concluded They would not pay Tole the > Indians Said must So the Emigrants armed Themselves and > Started on The Indians armed and Painted were Peaking > through the brush every where but made no Fight" > > Another memoir (different people, different train) > called "On To Oregon," mentions "...what was then known > as a corduroy bridge. This was made by placing poles > and brush over the mud, on which all our train might > pass without miring down." > > Is a corduroy bridge the same thing as a pole > bridge? > > Lester Powers > [email protected] > > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lester M Powers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 10:21 PM Subject: What is a "pole bridge"? > One of my family folk wrote an Oregon Trail > memoir (very brief) and mentions a "pole bridge" in > Kansas, 1852, thus: > > "My Father, Mother & Brothers and 1 sister I was the > Youngest. I was 11 years old July 26 That year we was > thretened by the Indians whoo had taken possession of a > Pole bridge built by the Indians across a Small Stream in > a wet brushy bottom the Indians were Demanding toll for > crossing the Bridge just at the time we got there the > Emigrants had concluded They would not pay Tole the > Indians Said must So the Emigrants armed Themselves and > Started on The Indians armed and Painted were Peaking > through the brush every where but made no Fight" > > Another memoir (different people, different train) > called "On To Oregon," mentions "...what was then known > as a corduroy bridge. This was made by placing poles > and brush over the mud, on which all our train might > pass without miring down." > > Is a corduroy bridge the same thing as a pole > bridge? > > Lester Powers > [email protected] > > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. >

(stretch to read)! Listers, Found the following TURNERS IN LINN COUNTY OREGON 1850 CENSUS Looking for links to Lucinda TURNER my gggrandmother, whose mother remarried Stephen PORTER Does anyone have links to this family? Laura Turner Nathan 61 M Farmer Ohio 39Turner Sarah 49 F Ohio 40Turner Thomas 32 M Ohio 41Turner Nancy 29 F Ohio 42Turner Cyntha 27 F Ohio 1Turner Mary 19 F Mo. 2Turner Margt. 17 F Ill. 3Turner Eliza 15 F Ill. 4Turner Rachael 13 F Ill. 5Turner Sarah J. 12 F Ill. 6Turner Saml. 7 M Ill. 7Turner Catharine 5 F O.T.

Listers Found this interesting history of LAPHAM who settled in DAYTON, Washington. Someone on our list knows about John Corbin LEWIS in the following list. Very nice website with lots of "new" Oregon Trail surnames and incidents. http://www.rootsweb.com/~orlinn/1853/1853pg10.html home page http://www.rootsweb.com/~orlinn LAPHAM, James R. - b. 3 Oct. 1811, Erie Co., N.Y.; served with Capt. Joseph Bailey's Company, 23 Oct. 1855 to 6 Feb. 1856, and in Capt. W. H. Latshaw's 2nd Bn., 13 Feb. to 9 June 1856 against Rogue River Indians; wounded at Hungry Hill; was living Dayton, Wash., after 1869, where he died in 1901. LAPHAM, Maria (Nichols) - m. James, March, 1834; d. 12 Sept. 1853, as the wagons following Elijah Elliott entered the Harney Valley, possibly at mouth of Pine Creek, in Ore.; buried five miles west, probably vicinity of Rattlesnake Creek. Children: Emily or Louise (both names given by Lapham descendents) - b. abt. 1838; d. abt. 1854, Springfield, Lane Co., Ore. Maria Ann - b. 15 Aug. 1846, Lenawee Co., Mich.; m. John Corbin Lewis, 21 Jan. 1865, at the home of George F. Colbert, Linn Co., Ore. (John was b. 1 Feb. 1842, Ky., coming to Ore. in 1845 with his parents.) John and Maria Ann Lewis moved to Dayton, Wash., area where descendants reside now. Maria d. Jan., 1942, Dayton. Laura in Seattle ADKINS, GALLOWAY, HALES, FUDGE, FINE, JOHNSON, KIRBY, TEEL, TURNER, GIBSON, PORTER

Listers I found a few settlers from Heppner, Oregon, Morrow County and Butter Creek area where my Galloway and Hales family settled before going to Waitsburg, WA. Laura Still searching the great LINN CO site with lots of new Oregon Trail Lists with great incidents recorded...thanks to all. Joseph MATLOCK was major of Eugene, Oregon. Edward was sheriff in Umatilla County, Or. Any links out there??? http://www.rootsweb.com/~orlinn/1853/1853pg11.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~orlinn MATLOCK, FRYE, BURNETT, RUTLEDGE, COOPER, BENNETT, LARKIN, SWAGGERT, GREENWOOD, CLARK, MATLOCK, Edward Lane - b. 18 April 1817, Humphreys Co., Tenn.; DLC No. 1690, Lane Co., Ore.; wagonmaster Rogue River Indian War 1855-56; d. 1 July 1863 of pneumonia at Boise mines, Idaho Territory. MATLOCK, Mary Susan or Sarah (Frye) - (DLC says Susan Catherine Frye); b. 3 Dec. 1815, N.C.; m. Edward, 23 June 1836, Benton Co., Tenn.; d. I May 1896, Heppner, Ore. Children: Caswell John - b. 1837, Tenn.; m. Mary Ann Burnett; lived in Umatilla Co., Ore.; d. 2 April 1917, Pendleton, Ore. Joseph Dewitt - b. 8 March 1839, Benton Co., Tenn.; m. (1) Elizabeth Rutledge, 26 Oct. 1862 (she b. 9 Nov. 1844, Ind.; d. 22 Aug. 1864, Lane Co., Ore.); m. (2) her sister, Louis Rutledge (b. 1852; d. 17 July 1891), 1867, Lane Co., Ore.; m. (3) Mrs. Sarah Durant, widow of Wm. Durant (d. 1887); Joseph was mayor of Eugene, had store Eugene and Dawson, Alaska; served State Legislature and as school supt., Lane Co., Ore., 1866; d. 23 May 1921, Lane Co., Ore. James W. - b. 20 June 1842, Dade Co., Mo.; m. Anna Isabella Cooper (b. abt. 1846, Mo.), 21 Feb. 1863, Lane Co., Ore.; served as sheriff of Marion Co., Ore., then move to Heppner, Ore.; d. in Heppner flood, 14 June 1903. Edward Lane - b. 25 Aug. 1844, Dade Co., Mo.; m. Eliza Jane Bennett (b. 9 Sept. 1846, Ill.; d. 10 Oct. 1892, Heppner, Ore.), 1 Jan. 1866, Lane Co., Ore.; in 1878 had a store in Goshen, Lane Co.; moved to Heppner, 1880, where he was sheriff in Umatilla Co.; d. 21 June 1897, Heppner, Ore. William Francis - b. 20 April 1847, Dade Co., Mo.; m. Nancy Ann Swaggert, 7 March 1866/67, Butter Creek, Umatilla Co., Ore.; mayor of Pendleton; state senator, Major-General Oregon National Guard; d. 3 Aug. 1914. Thomas J. - b. 4 March 1849, Dade Co., Mo.; m. Mary E. Keeney Larkin, widow, 8 Feb. 1871, Lane Co., Ore. (She drowned 14 June 1903, Heppner flood.) Thomas d. 3 May 1923, Heppner, Ore. Benjamin Franklin - b. abt,. 1850, Mo.; m. Mary Swaggert, 21 June 1871, Lane Co.; moved to Morrow Co., Ore.; d. 25 Oct. 1876; buried at Heppner, Ore. Sarah Mary - b. abt. 1853, Mo.; m. Lee Greenwood, Eugene or Wm. G. Clark, 24 Oct. 1868, Lane Co., Ore.; d. Dec, 1899, Eugene, Ore.

Good website for journaling. http://207.158.243.119/html/journals___diaries.html Laura