I am interested in the BAKER-Boyer Bank history from Walla Walla, Washington. This is Baker Family History. Looking for links to any Oregon Trail Bakers. Note: the connection Baker, however, is definitely a name associated with the English "Borderers." http://www.wiu.edu/users/mfeak/#Martin and Ann Hannah Clark Baker first appeared http://www.wiu.edu/users A Brief, Early, Baker Family History Martin and Ann Hannah Clark Baker first appeared in the records of Halifax Co., VA. about 1775. Though many of their descendants have searched for their parents and their birthplaces for more than 50 years, none has yet been successful. FROM WHERE DID THEY COME? Alexander Marshall Baker (1850-1937) told the family that Martin, his great great-grandfather, was born in 1714, but since records prove that he died in 1820, it is highly unlikely that he lived to be 106 years old! Were there two Martin Bakers in VA. who were father and son? Marshall also said that Martin had come to Virginia from England and that he was Scot-Irish. ( a misnomer since this particular group of emigrants were actually Scot-English from the border between Scotland and England; a better term is "Borderer.") Several ships did arrive in the Colonies from England with passengers named Martin Baker. Ships coming that early, however, listed only names and ages of passengers, so nothing more is known about those Martin Bakers. There were, however, 5 or 6 Martin Bakers in Colonial Virginia, so this puzzle is yet to be solved. If only early records contained more information! Baker, however, is definitely a name associated with the English "Borderers." Martin's first child, Susannah, was born in 1755, some years before the other children. This could mean that Martin had an earlier wife before Hannah, or it could be that there were more children about whom we do not know. Martin and Hannah raised at least two other children, James and Henrietta Maria, to adulthood in Halifax Co. Another daughter, Elizabeth died at age 18. Daughter Henrietta first married William Hamlett in Halifax Co. in 1786 and may later have married Samuel Maires/Maines (sp?) before 1805 according to a neighbor's court deposition some years later. No trace of Henrietta has been found in Virginia after about 1802. She may have moved to N.C. Henrietta was a witness at the marriage of Susannah Baker and Ransome Colquitt in 1785 in Halifax Co., VA. The couple then moved to Rockingham County, N.C. where they raised 5 children. Interestingly, later records show that Ransome, a Revolutionary War veteran, a dragoon in the First VA. Regiment, was the bondsman in the 1815 marriage in Garrard Co. of Cassandra Cabot Colquitt to James' son, Martin. She is not listed as a daughter of Ransome's in N.C. But KY. law at the time required a father or brother to sign for the bride since females were not allowed to sign legal documents. If she were a daughter, cousin married cousin, not an uncommon practice at that time. No record has yet been found regarding Cassandra's parentage nor any indication of her birthplace. So the mystery remains as to who Cassandra was. In December, 1820, Cassandra died in childbirth with son, John; there were several older children, as well. Martin then married Eliza Rice, sister of his brother's wife (Thomas and Clarisa Rice) and moved to Missouri, near Trenton, where he died in 1875 and where he and Eliza are buried. About 1778, his grandfather, Martin and wife, Hannah, moved with son, James, and his wife, Elizabeth Fuqua, originally of Charlotte Co., VA., to Garrard Co., KY. Before leaving VA., Martin sold their household belongings and two slaves, Charlotte and son, Lewis, to daughter, Henrietta, and son-in-law, William, so they obviously were unable to take much with them. This, plus the fact that Halifax Co. is on the N.C. border, indicate that their route was The Wilderness Road through the Cumberland Gap and then along the Cumberland Trace that ran from the Gap to Fort Harrod. That early it was still a rough trail, not wide enough for a wagon. They would have had to walk much of the way, able to ride horseback only over the less rugged parts. At that time, this was the only land route into KY. All of the river routes were too far to the north to be feasible for them. They most likely traveled with a group because attacks by bands of rogue Indians still occurred. (In 1795, Chief Doublehead captured five Virginians in Edmonson County, killed them, and boiled their bodies!) Gangs of white bandits also preyed on travelers through the narrow Gap, long after the Indians were gone. They may have traveled with a group of Baptists since the influx of settlers during this period in Garrard Co. were nearly all Virginia Baptists who left Virginia for religious reasons. They resented having to pay taxes to the state church of Virginia when they were not members. (Most of the Scots-English were originally Presbyterians, and then once here in thwe Colonies, many became Baptists. Most were quite hostile toward The Church of England. Records show that Martin's grandson, Martin, was a Baptist in Garrard Co.) Their first stop in KY., in all likelihood, was Fort Logan (now Stanford), the closest fort to their destination. (This fort no longer exists.) Martin had received a land grant in Kentucky of 1,200 acres that appears to have been in Anderson Co. But they lived on Sugar Creek, in Lincoln Co. (Later Garrard Co.) a few miles from Lancaster, where Martin ran a gristmill. Both Martin and Hannah are thought to be buried in Garrard Co., but their grave sites are unknown. By 1843, James was in Anderson Co.; he deeded land there to son, Beverly, and his wife, Isabel Sneed. Beverly and Isabel are buried near Willisburg in Washington Co. in the Glenn's Creek Baptist Church Cemetery. (The church is gone now; I have a photo of their badly erroded tombstone.) James also owned land in Mercer Co. He died in 1845 and is likely buried in Mercer or Washington Counties, though neither a burial site nor last will and testament has been found for him. James had at least eight children, possibly more ( For a list of them and further descendants, click on the link below for the five generation tree). James and Elizabeth split up after many years and many children. He married Jenny Jamison late in life, and Elizabeth moved to N.C. and remarried there. Thus far, more than 2,170 descendants of James have been located in many states---from KY. to CA., and even in Chile, South America. Currently there are at least twenty descendants researching the family. As yet, no descendants have been located for Henrietta. We know the names of Susannah B. Colquitt's children, but we have yet to find any of their descendants. Susanna died in Greenbrier, VA. (later W. VA.) in June 1845, where she had been receiving a Revolutionary War Widow's pension. Laura in Seattle

There is a child's grave along the Oregon Trail in Gilliam County. It is found in 8 mile canyon on top of a knoll beside one of this side roads that takes off to the north. We used to call it the tree road because it had a lone tree at the west end of it where it left Hwy 19 on Shutler Flats. My dad always told me it was a pioneer grave of a child. It is completely alone, but has an iron framework outlining it to keep the critters off. Does anyone know where you could find which route each of the separate wagon trains took to Oregon? I am interested in the route of the Clark train of 1852. My ggggrandmother was buried on Willow Creek where the Oregon Trail Crosses. Unfortunately there are two Willow Creeks that separate Oregon Trail Routes cross. I live near Willow Creek in Morrow Co. & very close to the site of the route that traversed down the Columbia River. I would like to search for her grave site. Marlene

Rooters: To find your way, click on this URL: http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgenweb/maps.html Be sure to stop at this site long enough to see the intire page of Oregon from 1853 thru to last map at 1889 -- and then.....> go to. and Click - "Some Oregon Panoramic Maps" The "Beginning of my Oregon Trail was at Map #1. (copyrighted, so URLs of individual views are not sent ready to view: therefore, you must select individual sites.) Violet ================================ or-roots wrote: > This could drive you nuts. > > My father's mother was born in Wasco Co., OR in 1875. My father was > born in Crook Co., OR in 1909. His sister was born in Jefferson Co., > OR a few years later. All three were born in Lamonta, OR!! > > Way back then Wasco County was very large and Lamonta was in Wasco > County. They ceated Crook County out of part of Wasco after my > grandmother was born; this puts Lamonta in Crook County at the time > of my father's birth. Then in 1914 Jefferson is cut out of Crook > County in time for my aunt to be born. > > Same idea: > > I was mystified about some Clackamas County data until today. This > county at one time was most of Oregon Territory. It was chopped up > to make the many counties that we know today. > > Bottom Line: > > If you have only "county" data for b. d. m. of an ancestor in Oregon > in the 1800's and early 1900's that county may have been "reinvented"! > And boys and girls, can we say, "Marshfield?" Try, "Coos Bay." > > Here is a URL that has been posted before but worth posting again: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgenweb/ Many of the county pages have > maps "then" and "now"; check them out. > > Cecil > > -- > Cecil Houk, ET1 USN Ret., AG6I > San Diego CA 92154-3654 > mailto:[email protected] > ANDERSON-BLAKELY-EGGERS-FORD-HOUK-KIMSEY-MONTGOMERY-RULAFORD-SIMPSON > Searchable GEDCOM: > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cchouk > See also: > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=donhouk > My Web page menu: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cchouk/rulaford/menu.htm

Mrs. Frank Wojcik's name was printed with the list in the Genealogical Forum of OR bulletins, indicating her assistance. That simple. Sherry ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 7:37 PM Subject: Re: Oregon Trail Lists > Dear Sherry and others out there: > Thank you for mentioning this. I am not clear about your statement: > "Mrs. Frank Wojcik made additions and > corrections in the bulletins of this time period." > Should I assume you mean Mrs. Wojcik made corrections, additions about > things other than the "Rock Inscriptions," ... Mrs. Wojcik wrote the > book: 1845 Overlanders and she was certainly knowledgeable about our > pioneer wagon train people of 1845 and their family genealogies. > > I am bemused by the name Alfred Gains on the "Rock Creek Camp, Idaho," > contributed by Mrs. Milton W. Belsher. I would also be interested in > knowing if Mrs. Wojcik ever commented about that name as listed. Unless > proven wrong, I will bet my dog spot that this was actually *Albert > Gaines*.......He and wife Sarah (Barlow) were with the 1845ers. Wonder > if anyone actually took photos of these names? > > Am wondering if Albert couldn't spell his own name? Guess we'll never > know! > Jackie (from state of Washington) > --------------------------------------- > > On Sat, 3 Jun 2000 05:50:56 -0700 "Sherry Kaseberg" > <[email protected]> writes: > > > > Genealogical Forum of Portland, OR, in their bulletin, February 1970 > > published "Rock Inscriptions of the Old Oregon Trail," by Mrs. > > Milton W. Belsher...lists of people who inscribed their names on > > rocks along the way. Register Cliff, Wyoming. Courthouse Rock. > > Chimney Rock. Rock Creek Camp in Idaho. Independence Rock. She > > included a list made in 1936 by George O. Houser, Editor of the > > Wheatland newspaper. Mrs. Frank Wojcik made additions and > > corrections in the bulletins of this time period. Worth a trip to > > the Forum library in Portland! > > > > For example: > > James Bacon > > Wm. Buffum > > Wm. Berry > > Spencer Buckley > > Richard Farwell > > Alfred Gains > > William Gant > > Samuel Gilmore - 1844 > > Carmey Goodrich > > Wm. Gesner > > Andrew Hood > > Wm. Knighton > > Abe Locke > > Joel Palmer > > Theophilus Powell > > Wm. Rector > > Mary Fetter Center [widow with three children] > > Rev. Lewis Thompson > > Presley Welch [traveled with Joel Palmer]. > > > > Submitted by Sherry Kaseberg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. >

The Oregon Trunk and Deschutes Railroad were built simultaneously on the W and E sides of the Deschutes. Laborers from Italy, Austria, Sweden and all points in between were employed about 1909-1910. A few stayed to live in America. I have no more information than that a handful were buried at Grass Valley Cemetery in Sherman County, OR. The 1910 census of the Sherman County rail construction camps will be published in Sherman County: For the Record this summer. Sherry Kaseberg ----- Original Message ----- From: Laura C <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:15 AM Subject: WALLA WALLA ITALIAN COMMUNITY > Sherry > You mentioned the Italian men. > > I saw a book a long time ago that had a lot of Italian history in Walla > Walla. Can anyone shed some light on this link? > > Laura in Seattle > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sherry Kaseberg [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 5:06 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Misc Burials Wasco County, OR > > > Daphne Hon Ramsey's cemetery records for Wasco County include these: > > Sarah Sutton, wife of John Sutton died on Sept 26, 1854 "at the foot of > the mountains near Tygh Valley." She kept a diary of the family's wagon trip > west from Cass County, IL. It stopped August 15, 1854 in the Grand Ronde > area where she became ill with Mountain Fever. A note written at the end of > the diary by a relative gives this information, plus the fact that she left > four helpless children, the youngest being four years old. Family tradition > is that Sarah Sutton's body was wrapped in a feather bed and buried along > side the road between Tygh Valley and the Barlow Road Toll Station. > > Mrs. Butts and two children, members of the ill-fated Stephen Meek wagon > train of 1845, believed to be buried on the John Conroy place near Sherar's > Bridge, marked by a pile of stones. Ronald Brock, a descendant, visited the > place before his death and believed this to be so. > > Mrs Kramer or Cramer died between 1883 and 1885, and was buried on the old > place of Peter Conroy near Antelope. Information carved on a native stone at > the head of her grave. Believed to be a member of a passing wagon train. > > Mr and Mrs Young, parents of Jerry Young, the first postmaster of the > Wapinitia area, had a store at Oak Grove, located about a mile west of > Wapinitia in Paquet Gulch. Mr. Young was called "Colonel" and Mrs. Young's > first name may have been Mary. Graves are on the Lloyd Woodside ranch in > Wapinitia [1966] near the line between his land and that of Harold Dyke. > Jerry Young and his brother Robert were in the Wapinitia area around 1875. > Jerry died in Wallowa County in 1920, aged 86. Information provided by Mrs. > Ralph Woodside, Lloyd Woodside, Francis Paquet and Maude Paquet Wall. > > > Baby Reins is buried on the old Flinn place just west of the Ben Forman > ranch now [1966] owned by Lloyd and Scott Woodside. > > Malinda Austin Mayfield, wife of Cecil Mayfield, was buried near Smock. > Informant: Mrs. George Bogardus, Troutdale, OR 1966. > > ________ Cogswell, died 1861, was buried on his place beside a child near > Wrentham, Wasco County. Reference: McNeal's Wasco County history. > > Ten Italian workmen on the Oregon Trunk Railroad construction gangs were > buried between July 1, 1909 and November 1910 at Neabeck, two miles up and > on the west side of the creek from Freebridge. Reference: McNeal > > Pioneer Grave at the top of Tygh Ridge on what was the Easton place, once > marked by a board painted "A Pioneer Grave." Ref: Mrs. John T. Davidson, The > Dalles > > Soldier's Grave, on upper Fifteen Mile near the junction of Kloan road. > Reference: > Mrs. John T. Davidson, The Dalles > > Mrs. C.B. Doyle died before 1916 and was buried on the Doyle homestead > located in T_S R12E North half of the NW quarter of Section 6. Information > provided by Mrs. Charles Lewis and Mrs. Virgil Mayfield who attended the > graveside service for Mrs. Doyle who was survived by her husband and > daughters, Irene, Dorothy and Carrie. > > Submitted by Sherry Kaseberg who has Daphne's collection for as along as she > can use it to help others per her promise! > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Sherry You mentioned the Italian men. I saw a book a long time ago that had a lot of Italian history in Walla Walla. Can anyone shed some light on this link? Laura in Seattle -----Original Message----- From: Sherry Kaseberg [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 5:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Misc Burials Wasco County, OR Daphne Hon Ramsey's cemetery records for Wasco County include these: Sarah Sutton, wife of John Sutton died on Sept 26, 1854 "at the foot of the mountains near Tygh Valley." She kept a diary of the family's wagon trip west from Cass County, IL. It stopped August 15, 1854 in the Grand Ronde area where she became ill with Mountain Fever. A note written at the end of the diary by a relative gives this information, plus the fact that she left four helpless children, the youngest being four years old. Family tradition is that Sarah Sutton's body was wrapped in a feather bed and buried along side the road between Tygh Valley and the Barlow Road Toll Station. Mrs. Butts and two children, members of the ill-fated Stephen Meek wagon train of 1845, believed to be buried on the John Conroy place near Sherar's Bridge, marked by a pile of stones. Ronald Brock, a descendant, visited the place before his death and believed this to be so. Mrs Kramer or Cramer died between 1883 and 1885, and was buried on the old place of Peter Conroy near Antelope. Information carved on a native stone at the head of her grave. Believed to be a member of a passing wagon train. Mr and Mrs Young, parents of Jerry Young, the first postmaster of the Wapinitia area, had a store at Oak Grove, located about a mile west of Wapinitia in Paquet Gulch. Mr. Young was called "Colonel" and Mrs. Young's first name may have been Mary. Graves are on the Lloyd Woodside ranch in Wapinitia [1966] near the line between his land and that of Harold Dyke. Jerry Young and his brother Robert were in the Wapinitia area around 1875. Jerry died in Wallowa County in 1920, aged 86. Information provided by Mrs. Ralph Woodside, Lloyd Woodside, Francis Paquet and Maude Paquet Wall. Baby Reins is buried on the old Flinn place just west of the Ben Forman ranch now [1966] owned by Lloyd and Scott Woodside. Malinda Austin Mayfield, wife of Cecil Mayfield, was buried near Smock. Informant: Mrs. George Bogardus, Troutdale, OR 1966. ________ Cogswell, died 1861, was buried on his place beside a child near Wrentham, Wasco County. Reference: McNeal's Wasco County history. Ten Italian workmen on the Oregon Trunk Railroad construction gangs were buried between July 1, 1909 and November 1910 at Neabeck, two miles up and on the west side of the creek from Freebridge. Reference: McNeal Pioneer Grave at the top of Tygh Ridge on what was the Easton place, once marked by a board painted "A Pioneer Grave." Ref: Mrs. John T. Davidson, The Dalles Soldier's Grave, on upper Fifteen Mile near the junction of Kloan road. Reference: Mrs. John T. Davidson, The Dalles Mrs. C.B. Doyle died before 1916 and was buried on the Doyle homestead located in T_S R12E North half of the NW quarter of Section 6. Information provided by Mrs. Charles Lewis and Mrs. Virgil Mayfield who attended the graveside service for Mrs. Doyle who was survived by her husband and daughters, Irene, Dorothy and Carrie. Submitted by Sherry Kaseberg who has Daphne's collection for as along as she can use it to help others per her promise!

Yes Cecil, the meandering lines. I like the BLM land records site, and search the whole state. I know I am a newbie but I loved the Ancestry.com site that I PAY for, searching around all the census information, I know....not cool! Best $5 a month I ever spent, they also send a very nice magazine and a huge reference book. http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ Good searching. Laura -----Original Message----- From: Cecil Houk [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 10:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Where(?) were the born! This could drive you nuts. My father's mother was born in Wasco Co., OR in 1875. My father was born in Crook Co., OR in 1909. His sister was born in Jefferson Co., OR a few years later. All three were born in Lamonta, OR!! Way back then Wasco County was very large and Lamonta was in Wasco County. They ceated Crook County out of part of Wasco after my grandmother was born; this puts Lamonta in Crook County at the time of my father's birth. Then in 1914 Jefferson is cut out of Crook County in time for my aunt to be born. Same idea: I was mystified about some Clackamas County data until today. This county at one time was most of Oregon Territory. It was chopped up to make the many counties that we know today. Bottom Line: If you have only "county" data for b. d. m. of an ancestor in Oregon in the 1800's and early 1900's that county may have been "reinvented"! And boys and girls, can we say, "Marshfield?" Try, "Coos Bay." Here is a URL that has been posted before but worth posting again: http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgenweb/ Many of the county pages have maps "then" and "now"; check them out. Cecil -- Cecil Houk, ET1 USN Ret., AG6I San Diego CA 92154-3654 mailto:[email protected] ANDERSON-BLAKELY-EGGERS-FORD-HOUK-KIMSEY-MONTGOMERY-RULAFORD-SIMPSON Searchable GEDCOM: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cchouk See also: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=donhouk My Web page menu: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cchouk/rulaford/menu.htm

Does anyone know where the Lewises, Mayfields and Doyles listed in Sherry Kaseberg's previous post came from? I am interested in the Lewises, Mayfields and Doyles who were in Riley County, Kansas; Jennings County, Indiana before that.They had been allied with Nelsons, Watsons and Warners in Kansas. Specific people I'm looking for are Mahala Lett Lewis, her son Daniel Thomas Lewis, grandson Charles Walter Lewis (born Stockdale, KS on September 12, 1873). They went to Washington Territory after the deaths of Mahala's husband, Rev. Timothy B. Lewis (1878) and D.T.'s wife, Kate Mayfield Lewis (1875). I have heard that Mahala died in or near Bellingham, WA, November 25, 1895, but I don't know where the others ended up or with whom they may have traveled. My grandfather's cousin was Kenneth Doyle who had been editor of a newspaper in Wamego, KS. I want to know about them and related people. I have information to share if anyone is interested. Thanks for your help. -Judy [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Sherry Kaseberg <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, June 02, 2000 6:06 PM Subject: Misc Burials Wasco County, OR >Daphne Hon Ramsey's cemetery records for Wasco County include these: > >Sarah Sutton, wife of John Sutton died on Sept 26, 1854 "at the foot of the mountains near Tygh Valley." She kept a diary of the family's wagon trip west from Cass County, IL. It stopped August 15, 1854 in the Grand Ronde area where she became ill with Mountain Fever. A note written at the end of the diary by a relative gives this information, plus the fact that she left four helpless children, the youngest being four years old. Family tradition is that Sarah Sutton's body was wrapped in a feather bed and buried along side the road between Tygh Valley and the Barlow Road Toll Station. > >Mrs. Butts and two children, members of the ill-fated Stephen Meek wagon train of 1845, believed to be buried on the John Conroy place near Sherar's Bridge, marked by a pile of stones. Ronald Brock, a descendant, visited the place before his death and believed this to be so. > >Mrs Kramer or Cramer died between 1883 and 1885, and was buried on the old place of Peter Conroy near Antelope. Information carved on a native stone at the head of her grave. Believed to be a member of a passing wagon train. > >Mr and Mrs Young, parents of Jerry Young, the first postmaster of the Wapinitia area, had a store at Oak Grove, located about a mile west of Wapinitia in Paquet Gulch. Mr. Young was called "Colonel" and Mrs. Young's first name may have been Mary. Graves are on the Lloyd Woodside ranch in Wapinitia [1966] near the line between his land and that of Harold Dyke. Jerry Young and his brother Robert were in the Wapinitia area around 1875. Jerry died in Wallowa County in 1920, aged 86. Information provided by Mrs. Ralph Woodside, Lloyd Woodside, Francis Paquet and Maude Paquet Wall. > > >Baby Reins is buried on the old Flinn place just west of the Ben Forman ranch now [1966] owned by Lloyd and Scott Woodside. > >Malinda Austin Mayfield, wife of Cecil Mayfield, was buried near Smock. Informant: Mrs. George Bogardus, Troutdale, OR 1966. > >________ Cogswell, died 1861, was buried on his place beside a child near Wrentham, Wasco County. Reference: McNeal's Wasco County history. > >Ten Italian workmen on the Oregon Trunk Railroad construction gangs were buried between July 1, 1909 and November 1910 at Neabeck, two miles up and on the west side of the creek from Freebridge. Reference: McNeal > >Pioneer Grave at the top of Tygh Ridge on what was the Easton place, once marked by a board painted "A Pioneer Grave." Ref: Mrs. John T. Davidson, The Dalles > >Soldier's Grave, on upper Fifteen Mile near the junction of Kloan road. Reference: >Mrs. John T. Davidson, The Dalles > >Mrs. C.B. Doyle died before 1916 and was buried on the Doyle homestead located in T_S R12E North half of the NW quarter of Section 6. Information provided by Mrs. Charles Lewis and Mrs. Virgil Mayfield who attended the graveside service for Mrs. Doyle who was survived by her husband and daughters, Irene, Dorothy and Carrie. > >Submitted by Sherry Kaseberg who has Daphne's collection for as along as she can use it to help others per her promise! > >______________________________

This could drive you nuts. My father's mother was born in Wasco Co., OR in 1875. My father was born in Crook Co., OR in 1909. His sister was born in Jefferson Co., OR a few years later. All three were born in Lamonta, OR!! Way back then Wasco County was very large and Lamonta was in Wasco County. They ceated Crook County out of part of Wasco after my grandmother was born; this puts Lamonta in Crook County at the time of my father's birth. Then in 1914 Jefferson is cut out of Crook County in time for my aunt to be born. Same idea: I was mystified about some Clackamas County data until today. This county at one time was most of Oregon Territory. It was chopped up to make the many counties that we know today. Bottom Line: If you have only "county" data for b. d. m. of an ancestor in Oregon in the 1800's and early 1900's that county may have been "reinvented"! And boys and girls, can we say, "Marshfield?" Try, "Coos Bay." Here is a URL that has been posted before but worth posting again: http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgenweb/ Many of the county pages have maps "then" and "now"; check them out. Cecil -- Cecil Houk, ET1 USN Ret., AG6I San Diego CA 92154-3654 mailto:[email protected] ANDERSON-BLAKELY-EGGERS-FORD-HOUK-KIMSEY-MONTGOMERY-RULAFORD-SIMPSON Searchable GEDCOM: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cchouk See also: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=donhouk My Web page menu: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cchouk/rulaford/menu.htm

Dear Sherry and others out there: Thank you for mentioning this. I am not clear about your statement: "Mrs. Frank Wojcik made additions and corrections in the bulletins of this time period." Should I assume you mean Mrs. Wojcik made corrections, additions about things other than the "Rock Inscriptions," ... Mrs. Wojcik wrote the book: 1845 Overlanders and she was certainly knowledgeable about our pioneer wagon train people of 1845 and their family genealogies. I am bemused by the name Alfred Gains on the "Rock Creek Camp, Idaho," contributed by Mrs. Milton W. Belsher. I would also be interested in knowing if Mrs. Wojcik ever commented about that name as listed. Unless proven wrong, I will bet my dog spot that this was actually *Albert Gaines*.......He and wife Sarah (Barlow) were with the 1845ers. Wonder if anyone actually took photos of these names? Am wondering if Albert couldn't spell his own name? Guess we'll never know! Jackie (from state of Washington) --------------------------------------- On Sat, 3 Jun 2000 05:50:56 -0700 "Sherry Kaseberg" <[email protected]> writes: > > Genealogical Forum of Portland, OR, in their bulletin, February 1970 > published "Rock Inscriptions of the Old Oregon Trail," by Mrs. > Milton W. Belsher...lists of people who inscribed their names on > rocks along the way. Register Cliff, Wyoming. Courthouse Rock. > Chimney Rock. Rock Creek Camp in Idaho. Independence Rock. She > included a list made in 1936 by George O. Houser, Editor of the > Wheatland newspaper. Mrs. Frank Wojcik made additions and > corrections in the bulletins of this time period. Worth a trip to > the Forum library in Portland! > > For example: > James Bacon > Wm. Buffum > Wm. Berry > Spencer Buckley > Richard Farwell > Alfred Gains > William Gant > Samuel Gilmore - 1844 > Carmey Goodrich > Wm. Gesner > Andrew Hood > Wm. Knighton > Abe Locke > Joel Palmer > Theophilus Powell > Wm. Rector > Mary Fetter Center [widow with three children] > Rev. Lewis Thompson > Presley Welch [traveled with Joel Palmer]. > > Submitted by Sherry Kaseberg. > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Sherry, Bonneys also had a saddle shop in Portland. The one on 6th street in The Dalles was the second shop because it was originally at a smaller place in TD. The Portland Shop was opened later. I thought they might look in the Portland area for more Bonney's. Marlene

Genealogical Forum of Portland, OR, in their bulletin, February 1970 published "Rock Inscriptions of the Old Oregon Trail," by Mrs. Milton W. Belsher...lists of people who inscribed their names on rocks along the way. Register Cliff, Wyoming. Courthouse Rock. Chimney Rock. Rock Creek Camp in Idaho. Independence Rock. She included a list made in 1936 by George O. Houser, Editor of the Wheatland newspaper. Mrs. Frank Wojcik made additions and corrections in the bulletins of this time period. Worth a trip to the Forum library in Portland! For example: Rock Creek Camp, Idaho: James Bacon Wm. Buffum Wm. Berry Spencer Buckley Richard Farwell Alfred Gains William Gant Samuel Gilmore - 1844 Carmey Goodrich Wm. Gesner Andrew Hood Wm. Knighton Abe Locke Joel Palmer Theophilus Powell Wm. Rector Mary Fetter Center [widow with three children] Rev. Lewis Thompson Presley Welch [traveled with Joel Palmer]. Submitted by Sherry Kaseberg.

The Genealogical Forum of Portland, now Genealogical Forum of Oregon, published some wonderful records in their bulletin over the years! These should not be overlooked. Marriages, Oregon Trail wagon train lists, bible records, mortality schedules and more! Visit the National-Award-Winning Sherman County Historical Museum Moro, Oregon www.shermanmuseum.org/ May through October Daily 10-5 [email protected] USGenWeb - www.rootsweb.com/~orsherma/index.htm

Daphne Hon Ramsey's cemetery records for Wasco County include these: Sarah Sutton, wife of John Sutton died on Sept 26, 1854 "at the foot of the mountains near Tygh Valley." She kept a diary of the family's wagon trip west from Cass County, IL. It stopped August 15, 1854 in the Grand Ronde area where she became ill with Mountain Fever. A note written at the end of the diary by a relative gives this information, plus the fact that she left four helpless children, the youngest being four years old. Family tradition is that Sarah Sutton's body was wrapped in a feather bed and buried along side the road between Tygh Valley and the Barlow Road Toll Station. Mrs. Butts and two children, members of the ill-fated Stephen Meek wagon train of 1845, believed to be buried on the John Conroy place near Sherar's Bridge, marked by a pile of stones. Ronald Brock, a descendant, visited the place before his death and believed this to be so. Mrs Kramer or Cramer died between 1883 and 1885, and was buried on the old place of Peter Conroy near Antelope. Information carved on a native stone at the head of her grave. Believed to be a member of a passing wagon train. Mr and Mrs Young, parents of Jerry Young, the first postmaster of the Wapinitia area, had a store at Oak Grove, located about a mile west of Wapinitia in Paquet Gulch. Mr. Young was called "Colonel" and Mrs. Young's first name may have been Mary. Graves are on the Lloyd Woodside ranch in Wapinitia [1966] near the line between his land and that of Harold Dyke. Jerry Young and his brother Robert were in the Wapinitia area around 1875. Jerry died in Wallowa County in 1920, aged 86. Information provided by Mrs. Ralph Woodside, Lloyd Woodside, Francis Paquet and Maude Paquet Wall. Baby Reins is buried on the old Flinn place just west of the Ben Forman ranch now [1966] owned by Lloyd and Scott Woodside. Malinda Austin Mayfield, wife of Cecil Mayfield, was buried near Smock. Informant: Mrs. George Bogardus, Troutdale, OR 1966. ________ Cogswell, died 1861, was buried on his place beside a child near Wrentham, Wasco County. Reference: McNeal's Wasco County history. Ten Italian workmen on the Oregon Trunk Railroad construction gangs were buried between July 1, 1909 and November 1910 at Neabeck, two miles up and on the west side of the creek from Freebridge. Reference: McNeal Pioneer Grave at the top of Tygh Ridge on what was the Easton place, once marked by a board painted "A Pioneer Grave." Ref: Mrs. John T. Davidson, The Dalles Soldier's Grave, on upper Fifteen Mile near the junction of Kloan road. Reference: Mrs. John T. Davidson, The Dalles Mrs. C.B. Doyle died before 1916 and was buried on the Doyle homestead located in T_S R12E North half of the NW quarter of Section 6. Information provided by Mrs. Charles Lewis and Mrs. Virgil Mayfield who attended the graveside service for Mrs. Doyle who was survived by her husband and daughters, Irene, Dorothy and Carrie. Submitted by Sherry Kaseberg who has Daphne's collection for as along as she can use it to help others per her promise!

Thanks Walt Davies for your story of Applegate, let's here more, or if you can find more Missouri history let us know. I don't really understand the formation in Missouri for the trek west. Laura in Seattle -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 10:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Unidentified subject! One little note from my pioneer family: My gt.gt. grandfather Henry Hewitt (1822-1899) came out in 1843 on the same wagon train as the Applegates. They lived near each other in Mo. before they left. Henry wrote this: " Jesse Applegate is the biggest liar that ever walked the face of the earth." I don't think that grampa like liked. Walt Davies << 1996 marks the 150th anniversary of the Applegate Trail By the Spring of 1846, the brothers had settled in the Willamette Valley of Oregon, planted crops and built cabins, but they were determined to find a safer, more secure route for emigration. Charles stayed home to care for the family and land. Lindsay and Jesse, along with Levi Scott and ten others formed a scouting party to be known as the the South Road Expedition. On June 20, 1846, they left La Creole Creek (now Rickreall) near Dallas, Oregon on their journey south. http://www.webtrail.com/applegate/ >>

One little note from my pioneer family: My gt.gt. grandfather Henry Hewitt (1822-1899) came out in 1843 on the same wagon train as the Applegates. They lived near each other in Mo. before they left. Henry wrote this: " Jesse Applegate is the biggest liar that ever walked the face of the earth." I don't think that grampa like liked. Walt Davies << 1996 marks the 150th anniversary of the Applegate Trail By the Spring of 1846, the brothers had settled in the Willamette Valley of Oregon, planted crops and built cabins, but they were determined to find a safer, more secure route for emigration. Charles stayed home to care for the family and land. Lindsay and Jesse, along with Levi Scott and ten others formed a scouting party to be known as the the South Road Expedition. On June 20, 1846, they left La Creole Creek (now Rickreall) near Dallas, Oregon on their journey south. http://www.webtrail.com/applegate/ >>

I am new to the list and want to say hello and let you know I am searching for the 1851-52 Oregon Trail Family that departed Cedar County Iowa in March 1851 and included families of Linus BUSHNELL, Seley Mansfield COOK, Beckwith COOK, Joel COOK, John A. HARRY, Horace RICE, Henry B. SMITH, Abraham CUTLIP, Absalom BOLTON, Alfred B. COLLVER and possibly Daniel BOLTON. I have researched this wagon train for about 20 years and have considerable information I have accumulated over the years, but it seems never enough information. Rommie Walker, Oregon [email protected]

Hi, I am the Librarian in Condon Oregon at the Gilliam County Library. Let me know if there is anything I can do for any one on the list. Wendi [email protected]

While we're on the subject of different trails, does anyone know about the "Fox Trail?" It's is supposed to have been somewhere in the midwest. I ran a couple of searches on the net last night and didn't come up with much that would be what this person was looking for. Thought maybe one of you on this great sharing list might know. :)) Lois in CA

I don't fully understand. Why should this not be on this list. Some of us are interested in these names but don't want to comment until our "ducks are in a row" so to speak. Please explain why. Vikki Proud Shriners Child National Domestic Violence Hot Line (1-800-799-SAFE) ----- Original Message ----- From: Laura C <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 3:21 AM Subject: Unidentified subject! > Sherry Kaseberg, Laura Chushcoff in Seattle here. > > I can't thank you enough for your wonderful message about-- > > Jesse O. HALES married 1892 Grace MORRISON of Adams, Oregon. She was born > about 1870 of New Zealand the daughter of John MORRISON and Grace REID of > Glasgow, Scotland and New Zealand. > > I have been searching for a year for some history. I traveled to the Morrow > Co. Museum and the Umatilla Historical Society have been helpful too. > > Your story is definitely a "beginning" to my year long search. > Thank you again, > Laura Chushcoff, Seattle __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com