In documenting ancestor travel on Oregon Trail, I have used several sources, including Oregon Donation Land Claims. Altho, the ODLC sometimes has conflictly info. Dec 1852 Oregon Statesman printed a list of people that died on trail that year, using info from travelers & they stibulated where the deceased were born. There was some kind of registry, Umatilla Co., just before the End of Trail. However, this missed some families, and lot of single men. Judy > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 > Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:03:16 -0700 > From: "deb Christensen" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Foren on O.T. in 1851? > > Albert: > > You bring up an interesting question. :) > > While most of my family lines started on the trail > and then broke off to go to > California, I do have one that headed on to Oregon. > > Now, how in the world does one document their > arrival? > > deb (a Trail novice) > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > - > deb Christensen ([email protected]) > Graphics Connection Forum > http://www.computingcentral.com/topics/graphics/ > > > I am researching the 1851 O.T. migration and would > like to add this family > > to my Master List of 1851 O.T. Pioneers. Can you > document his arrival? > > > > Albert Belanger > > [email protected] > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/

Marilyn, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if your ancestors that came Oct 1853 from Jackson Co., MO knew my ancestors the Savage, Tucker, Prine, Dealy, Foren, knew your family.And of course, I should probably mention the RAYs, as Alicy Dealy Prine married as 2nd husband Wm. Ray who was ancestor of many in Linn Co. The above mentioned family members of mine settled in Linn Co., and theirhome before departure on OREGON Trail was Jackson Co., Missouri! Judy > ATTACHMENT part 5 message/rfc822 > Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 23:29:22 -0700 > From: "Marilyn Schwartz" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Linn Co. Pioneers > > I noticed several of the names just recently > mentioned seem to follow the same migration pattern > as my family. > > My Marks ancestors (Bluford, Martha and 7 children) > arrived in Oregon in 1853 from Jackson Co., > Missouri, settled in the Sweet Home area (Linn Co.), > then moved to the Prineville area (Wasco, later > Crook Co.) > > My Noble ancestors (William, Sarah, and 2 children) > arrived across the Oregon Trail in 1850 (from Ohio, > then Iowa), also settled in Sweet Home then moved > east to Wasco/Crook Co. > > I noticed several names on the last few postings > also from Jackson Co., Missouri. I wonder how many > of these families knew each other from their points > of origin. They must have liked each other ... they > seemed to move together! > > Marilyn S. > Chelan, WA > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/

I'll just add that these Family History Centers are small and difficult to find. I made my first trip to one last week after a long time of hearing about them. I found the church it was in all right, but there was no sign anywhere to indicate which of the *many* doors to use. I, of course, chose the wrong one. :) Even inside, there was no indication of where you were to go. I wandered up and down two long halls, and was about to leave when a gentleman came out of a doorway. I stopped to ask him -- and he showed me where it was. So you might want to call first and get directions not ONLY to the building itself, but where to go once you are there. Check the hours, too, compared to the Library, the hours it was open were pretty sparse. If there's things there that you need that your main county library can't get, it's certainly worth the trip. deb - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - deb Christensen ([email protected]) Graphics Connection Forum http://www.computingcentral.com/topics/graphics/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lois" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 10:08 AM Subject: Re: Foren on O.T. in 1851? > Marilyn... > > FHC stands for Family History Center of the LDS church. You can find > them by going to the yellow pages of your phone book. It will list the > closest one to you. They hold millions of ancestry records. > > I will caution you to document what you see as the records are only as > good as those who submit them. Sometimes they submit info without > having "Proved" it and then that info gets passed on and on and on until > someone says STOP. So, as with any information, please double and > triple check info you find there. :)) > > Lois in CA >

Marilyn... FHC stands for Family History Center of the LDS church. You can find them by going to the yellow pages of your phone book. It will list the closest one to you. They hold millions of ancestry records. I will caution you to document what you see as the records are only as good as those who submit them. Sometimes they submit info without having "Proved" it and then that info gets passed on and on and on until someone says STOP. So, as with any information, please double and triple check info you find there. :)) Lois in CA

FHC stands for Family History Center. These are the "branch libraries" of the Salt Lake City Family History Library. Through them, any record that has been microfilmed by the church can be ordered for a nominal fee - usually about $3.00 for three weeks. The Centers also have computers with databases such as the IGI and the Ancestral File and the FHLC (Family History Library Catalog). Many also maintain collections of films on Indefinite Loan - especially census and Soundex. Some have good collections of books as well. Go to their website at: http://www.familysearch.org to search the above mentioned as well as for listings of the locations of all FHC's. Mimi Stang

Leta, What's the FHC?

The Donation Land Claims Books are on fiche at the FHC. If they don't have them you can order them. They are really worth it. Leta in CA ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Tompkins <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 8:41 PM Subject: Re: Foren on O.T. in 1851? > ><< Now, how in the world does one document their arrival? >> > > >Only if one can find an artical written by someone who new them or by looking > >for a DLC to see if they took up a land or something of this nature. There > >wasn't any offical way of documenting new arrivals. > >Walt Davies > > > Not entirely true. > > There were several provisional government, county, territorial and US > government censuses, county tax rolls, as well as provisional land grant > claims and donation land claims. Very few people came to Oregon and > literally fell out of sight. The first territory wide census was 1842. > > jim > >

><< Now, how in the world does one document their arrival? >> >Only if one can find an artical written by someone who new them or by looking >for a DLC to see if they took up a land or something of this nature. There >wasn't any offical way of documenting new arrivals. >Walt Davies > Not entirely true. There were several provisional government, county, territorial and US government censuses, county tax rolls, as well as provisional land grant claims and donation land claims. Very few people came to Oregon and literally fell out of sight. The first territory wide census was 1842. jim

Only if one can find an artical written by someone who new them or by looking for a DLC to see if they took up a land or something of this nature. There wasn't any offical way of documenting new arrivals. Walt Davies << Now, how in the world does one document their arrival? >>

To: Judy <[email protected]> You wrote on the Oregon Trail list Researching SAVAGE, TUCKER, PRINE,FOREN, DEALY, who traveled the Oregon Trail. Wm. C. Foren arrived fall 1851. I am researching the 1851 O.T. migration and would like to add this family to my Master List of 1851 O.T. Pioneers. Can you document his arrival? Albert Belanger [email protected]

Listers: I have added the Kimsey - Simpson families who crossed to Oregon, Washington and California in 1846 to "My Oregon Trail Families". http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~cchouk/oregon_trail/ Other surnames included are: Anderson Cooper Crowley Haven Jones MacKlin Price Wisdom Happy hunting, Cecil -- Cecil Houk, ET1 USN Ret., AG6I San Diego CA 92154-3654 mailto:[email protected] ANDERSON-BLAKELY-EGGERS-FORD-HOUK-KIMSEY-MONTGOMERY-RULAFORD-SIMPSON Searchable GEDCOM: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cchouk See also: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=donhouk My Web page menu: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cchouk/rulaford/menu.htm

Albert: You bring up an interesting question. :) While most of my family lines started on the trail and then broke off to go to California, I do have one that headed on to Oregon. Now, how in the world does one document their arrival? deb (a Trail novice) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - deb Christensen ([email protected]) Graphics Connection Forum http://www.computingcentral.com/topics/graphics/ > I am researching the 1851 O.T. migration and would like to add this family > to my Master List of 1851 O.T. Pioneers. Can you document his arrival? > > Albert Belanger > [email protected] > >

Sherry, thanks again for taking time and energy to send information. I have been researching these lines for a very long time and have a copy of Almon F. Parker's work as well as Mc Neal article. Both are good places to start. With the documents that are being more available all the time, we as researchers are proving many things previously found to be untrue. For example, the Rebecca below married David Hink in Missouri, stayed there even after her husband was killed in civil war. Joab Powell jr's wife was Rebecca Jane PRINE, daughter of William Martin PRINE and Mary Dealy Prine. [Wm. Martin Prine was brother to Francis, and Mary was sister of Alice Elizabeth [Ailcy]. Powell's wife has always been mystery, as the PRINE families often used the same names. However,Wm. Martin PRINE's will clearly states as heir children of Rebecca Jane POWELL and then lists them. Anyway, what I am getting at is that earlier researchers often worked harder with fewer results and weren't able to obtain primary documents to back up their work. Thanks again for replying., Judy --- Sherry Kaseberg <[email protected]> wrote: > In 1973 I exchanged genealogies with several Prine > genealogists, although > this is not my line. The following is from the work > of Almon F. Parker of > Evanston IL in 1973. > > Francis Prine b 14 March 1803 NC, d Lone Jack MO, m > Alice Elizabeth Dealey, > also called Ailcy, b 15 Nov 1812 in N Kentucky, d 4 > Nov 1905 Scio Linn Co > OR. She is buried Providence Cemetery Linn Co OR. > She m2 Hocker, m3 William > Ray 20 Feb 1850 Jackson Co MO. Francis and Alice > Prine had issue: > 1. Charity J. Prine 28 Jan 1829 Jackson Co MO, m W. > Scott Dealy 1846; > 2. David 2 Jan 1831 Jackson CoMO, d 30 May 1890 > Mitchell OR, m his > step-sister Rebecca Elizabeth Ray 1850 Jackson Co > MO; > 3. Rebecca Prine b 29 July 1833 Jackson CoMo, m Joab > Powell Jr. 9 Dec 1858 > Linn Co OR; __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

From McNeal's history of Wasco County, OR available in The Dalles-Wasco County Library in The Dalles; East of the Cascades by Phil Brogan; Oregon Writers Project 1940, Binfords & Mort Pub; 1870 and 1880 census of Wasco Co OR.: [not my line] Barnett Francis Prine, aka Barney, b Jackson Co MO 1841, d 1916 Oroville, WA, m Elizabeth Sylvester. She left him and married his neplhew, John Prine. Barney's children included Cora who married Cliff Tucker and had Frank and Josie; Frank Prine who married Sadie Irene Mocommon [sp?] and had four children; and David Prine b 1870 in OR. 1870 USCensus Wasco Co OR, E of Deschutes River, The Dalles PO, #105: Francis B. Prine, 29, MO, blacksmith Eliza Prine 21, England David Prine 9/12 Oregon, born November. 1880 US Census, Wasco Co OR, Prineville Precinct, #25: Barney Prine 30 MO-PA-KY, blacksmith. Sherry Kaseberg Wasco OR ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 6:42 PM Subject: Researching SAVAGE, TUCKER, PRINE,FOREN, DEALY > Researching SAVAGE, TUCKER, PRINE,FOREN, DEALY, who > traveled the Oregon Trail. Wm. C. Foren arrived fall > 1851. Albert Levitt Savage and 2 brothers William, > Erastus came with their families arriving Oct 1852. > William "Buck" TUCKER and 2 brothers, Daniel Woodson > Tucker and Branch Tucker also came in this time > period. > Alicy DEALY Prine and her 2nd husband William Ray, > brought their combined families, arriving 1853.[Alicy > was the mother of Barney PRINE, founder of > Prineville.] > Judy > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > >

I've just recently found out that I have first cousins with the last name of Hauser who may be living in Oregon.. if anyone knows of any Hauser's such as Diane and Alice Hauser please e-mail me thanks Sam Bowman [email protected] ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I noticed several of the names just recently mentioned seem to follow the same migration pattern as my family. My Marks ancestors (Bluford, Martha and 7 children) arrived in Oregon in 1853 from Jackson Co., Missouri, settled in the Sweet Home area (Linn Co.), then moved to the Prineville area (Wasco, later Crook Co.) My Noble ancestors (William, Sarah, and 2 children) arrived across the Oregon Trail in 1850 (from Ohio, then Iowa), also settled in Sweet Home then moved east to Wasco/Crook Co. I noticed several names on the last few postings also from Jackson Co., Missouri. I wonder how many of these families knew each other from their points of origin. They must have liked each other ... they seemed to move together! Marilyn S. Chelan, WA

In 1973 I exchanged genealogies with several Prine genealogists, although this is not my line. The following is from the work of Almon F. Parker of Evanston IL in 1973. Francis Prine b 14 March 1803 NC, d Lone Jack MO, m Alice Elizabeth Dealey, also called Ailcy, b 15 Nov 1812 in N Kentucky, d 4 Nov 1905 Scio Linn Co OR. She is buried Providence Cemetery Linn Co OR. She m2 Hocker, m3 William Ray 20 Feb 1850 Jackson Co MO. Francis and Alice Prine had issue: 1. Charity J. Prine 28 Jan 1829 Jackson Co MO, m W. Scott Dealy 1846; 2. David 2 Jan 1831 Jackson CoMO, d 30 May 1890 Mitchell OR, m his step-sister Rebecca Elizabeth Ray 1850 Jackson Co MO; 3. Rebecca Prine b 29 July 1833 Jackson CoMo, m Joab Powell Jr. 9 Dec 1858 Linn Co OR; 4. James Prine; 5. Sarah Ann "Sally" Prine b 20 April 1839 Jackson Co MO, d 1 Jan 1930 The Dalles OR, m William Clayborn Foren 1 January 1854 Oregon Territory; 6. Barnett Francis "Barney" Prine b 1841 Jackson Co MO, d 16 Oct 1916 Oroville, WA, m Eliza Sylvester 5 April 1867, divorced after 1870 and she married his nephew; 7. John or Jonathan A. Prine b 1 or 3 January 1843 Jackson Co MO. William Ray had 7 children by his first marriage. William and Alice Dealy Prine Ray had children: 1. Alice Benton Ray b 18 Dec 1850 Lone Jack, MO, d 18 Aug 1902, buried Lacomb, OR, m Isaac Newton Bostwick 8 March 1866 Linn Co OR; 2. William E. Ray Jr b 17 March 1853 Lone Jack MO, m Mary Sylvester 1880 Weston, Umatilla Co OR; 3. Joseph H. Ray b 3 May 1856, d 3 July 1873, buried Providence Cemetery; 4. Hannah A. Ray b 1 July 1857, d 6 Aug 1864. Oregon Donation Land Claim Abstracts #3426 Linn Co OR provide this information: William Ray b 1808 Butler Co OH, m1 Nancy Harding, to Oregon 1853, settled a claim 1854, m Ailsey Daily 10 Feb 1850 Jackson Co MO; She was b 15 Nov 1812, d 4 Nov 1905. He signed oath of allegiance 27 May 1864. Affadavits signed by William M. Prine, David Prine and Robert Cary. Children include: Rebecca Elizabeth Ray b 1831 OH; Hannah A. d 1864; Joseph H. d 1873. 1860 US Census Linn Co OR #1069-993 W.C. Foren 29 TN blacksmith Sarah Foren 21 MO Emery Foren 6 OR William Foren 4 OR David Foren 2 Elizabeth Foren 4/12. ---------------------------- William Clayborn Foren was born TN 20 Feb 1831, d 27 Dec 1882 Prineville, OR. He came to OR 1852 and settled on a Donation Land Claim in Linn County. He and his wife Sarah Ann Prine had 13 children: --Emory Francis 1854-1927 m Susannah Yancey; -- "Dutch" William Jackson 1856-1918 m Pernina Ann Crockett 1881; --David 1858-1939, d Canada; --Charity Elizabeth "Lizzie" 1860-d The Dalles, OR. m1 James E. Bostwick 1878 Lebanon OR, m2 John Geiger; --Celia Alice b 1862 m Jesse Pratt Yancey, Jr. 1883 Prineville, Crook Co OR; --Martha "Mattie" Ann b 1864 m William Erastus Savage; --Hannah Amilda "Millie" 1866-1950 m1 James E. Clark, m2 Henry A. Deakins; --Robert Ulysses b 1869; --Charles Andrew b 1872, d Ashland OR, m Lizzie Barnaby; --Frances "Fanny" Jane 1875-1954 m John Smith; --Henry Cortez 1874-1874; --Ira Newton 1878, m Bessie Nelson 1909; --Willis Clayborn 1883-1952, m Frieda Spoo 1909. ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 6:42 PM Subject: Researching SAVAGE, TUCKER, PRINE,FOREN, DEALY > Researching SAVAGE, TUCKER, PRINE,FOREN, DEALY, who > traveled the Oregon Trail. Wm. C. Foren arrived fall > 1851. Albert Levitt Savage and 2 brothers William, > Erastus came with their families arriving Oct 1852. > William "Buck" TUCKER and 2 brothers, Daniel Woodson > Tucker and Branch Tucker also came in this time > period. > Alicy DEALY Prine and her 2nd husband William Ray, > brought their combined families, arriving 1853.[Alicy > was the mother of Barney PRINE, founder of > Prineville.] > Judy > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > >

Dear Listers: http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~cchouk/oregon_trail/ I have added the John and Ellen Moore Montgomery family to my "My Oregon Trail Families". The surnames added include: McCallister McHargue Montgomery Moore Profitt Rice Robertson Pitt Smith Tillotson Most of the people spent time in Brownsville, Linn Co., OR circa 1847- 1870. Some died there; some moved on to Washington state. Happy hunting, Cecil -- Cecil Houk, ET1 USN Ret., AG6I San Diego CA 92154-3654 mailto:[email protected] ANDERSON-BLAKELY-EGGERS-FORD-HOUK-KIMSEY-MONTGOMERY-RULAFORD-SIMPSON Searchable GEDCOM: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cchouk See also: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=donhouk My Web page menu: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cchouk/rulaford/menu.htm

Researching SAVAGE, TUCKER, PRINE,FOREN, DEALY, who traveled the Oregon Trail. Wm. C. Foren arrived fall 1851. Albert Levitt Savage and 2 brothers William, Erastus came with their families arriving Oct 1852. William "Buck" TUCKER and 2 brothers, Daniel Woodson Tucker and Branch Tucker also came in this time period. Alicy DEALY Prine and her 2nd husband William Ray, brought their combined families, arriving 1853.[Alicy was the mother of Barney PRINE, founder of Prineville.] Judy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail � Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

Soneone asked about the preachers in OR/WA in the last half of the 1800's. Elder Doug Johnson wrote a book about "Adventism On The Northwestern Frontier". He devoted a chapter to Nineveh Ford's experience with the Seventh-Day Adventists; here is a link to it: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cchouk/ford/index2.htm#papers FWIW: They booted my gr gr grandfather. :-) -- Cecil Houk, ET1 USN Ret., AG6I San Diego CA 92154-3654 mailto:[email protected] ANDERSON-BLAKELY-EGGERS-FORD-HOUK-KIMSEY-MONTGOMERY-RULAFORD-SIMPSON Searchable GEDCOM: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cchouk See also: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=donhouk My Web page menu: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cchouk/rulaford/menu.htm