Listers, I met a gal recently who said her greatgrandfather was governor of Oregon. It was SNELL. Any links?? Earl Snell was Oregon's governor from January 11, 1943 to October 28, 1947. Earl Snell was born in Olex, Oregon on July 11, 1895. Snell served in the Army during World War I, coming back to Gilliam County at war's end. He tried the newspaper business before entering the automobile business in Arlington and Condon. From 1915 to 1945 he operated a dealership with a partner. Snell served on Arlington's City Council. Snell began his political career in 1927 when he was elected state representative. Snell remained in the Legislative Assembly until 1934 when he left his position as Speaker of the House to take the elected position of Secretary of State. He served as Secretary of State from 1934 to 1942, then was elected Oregon's twenty-third governor in 1942. Governor Snell was re-elected in 1946 and served until October 28, 1947, when he was killed in a plane crash in the wild terrain east of Klamath Falls along with Secretary of State Robert S. Farrell Jr., President of the Senate Marshall E. Cornett, and their pilot Cliff Hogue. Snell was vitally interested in Oregon's forests and the problems facing the state in managing forest lands, including the effects of the 1933 Tillamook Burn, which devastated 240,000 acres. He charged a Special Forestry Committee with the responsibility of making a complete survey and analysis of Oregon's forestry program, with particular emphasis on the Tillamook burn, fire prevention, and reforestation. The lumber industry consistently occupied first or second place in the commercial activities of the state's economy and Oregon's forestry laws and policies were recognized as outstanding in the nation. In addition to his environmental legacy, Snell also campaigned for old-age relief without increasing taxation; post-war aid in education; home ownership; and liberalization of unemployment compensation. Governor Snell placed emphasis on improving winter travel by developing and improving roads and resorts. He wanted Oregon to become the winter wonderland for vacationers, and expand tourism to become more than a summer industry. A state employees' retirement system was also adopted during Snell's tenure as governor. This website has the history of all the governors of Oregon. It is from the Oregon Archives which is a wonderful SEARCHABLE database. http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/banners/governors.htm This is the Oregon Blue Book, it will have all your addresses for obits, marriages, courthouses etc. http://bluebook.state.or.us/search/search.htm It is searchable, rather fun, give it a try for anything!! Those of you searching Columbia Co. etc. make sure to search Oregon too. Laura in Seattle Soon to visit Salem, Albany and Lebanon for the first time!! Smith, Fudge, Teel, Kirby, Alexander, Pollard, Bateman, Gibson, Turner, Porter

I thought that the or-roots or the OREGON-TRAIL-L folks might possibly be the ones to be able to shed some light on this for the CARR-L or possibly it may benefit someone on either OR list. Please reply to <[email protected]> with any questions or insight on the CARR family involved. It is obviously Creswell not the typo of Crewell where this man died in 1902. I haven't been able to access the database of the Oregon Archives to find any additional info to help Pat. Perhaps someone else can help. Kathy <[email protected]> Forwarded message: -------------------- X-Message: #1 Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 08:07:19 EDT From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: [CARR-L] George Washington Carr, d Oregon 1902 Someone posted this to the list back in Nov 99. I'd like further information from the original writer but don't know how to proceed to find her, not being familiar with the list involved. Then again, maybe the author is a member of this CARR_L or someone else is familiar with this family? I was hoping for some of the missing dates of birth and/or other details. Pat Subj: [CARR-L] [Fwd: Carr Date: 11/14/1999 3:21:11 PM Eastern Standard Time To: [email protected] Got this off another list. Received: from familysearch.org - 32.82.11.12 by ldsfws002.usf.ibm.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1774.114.11); Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:24:12 -0600 From: carr<[email protected]> To: carr<[email protected]> Subject: (no subject) Message-Id: <[email protected]> Date: 14 Nov 1999 12:24:17 -0600 HI I was married to a Harold R. Carr (Bud) who lived in Southern California. His father's name was George Robert Carr and his grand fathers name was Hugh Carr, his great grandfather was George Washington Carr. Anyone have any information on this family line?? I sure would appreciate it. Thank you. I traced George W. Carr to Crewell, Oregon where he died 5 July 1902. Any help would be appreciated. __________________ NOTE: There is a Creswell, OR (Lane Co) just south of Eugene, OR. I find no reference to a Crewell, OR. Pat Noble Always interested in your Carrs. Don't forget to visit: My Carr Database at RootsWeb's WorldConnect Project http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=pnoble66 ------------------------------------------------------- End of forwarded message

> Both James Field in 1845 and John McBride in 1846, in chronicling >their journey west from St. Joseph, make a similar reference to crossing >the Republican River, a branch of the Kansas (which technically it is >not), the day after crossing the Big Blue River and meeting the Oregon >Trail from Independence (Burnett's Trace). > Can any of you trail experts tell me what they are referring to >here, and what river they might have confused with the Republican, and >why both would be similarly confused, or just what exactly is going on >here? >Ross Smith 1. Tell the people in Manhattan, Kansas, that the river flowing into the Kansas River is not the Republican River and you may get a real geography lesson. 2. If the emigrants did actually cross the Republican River then they were lost. They should have picked up the Oregon Trail at Marysville, KS, traveled about a day west to the Little Blue and then turn north and follow it up to Rock Creek Station near Fairbury, NE. If they crossed the Little Blue and proceeded about two days west rather than not cross and proceed north, they would have picked up the Republican. (Which IS a tributary of the Kansas or Kaw River!) 3. If at any time the emigrants following the south bank of the Platte River from Ft. Kearny (note spelling) as far as california Crossing had turned south and gone over the divide they would be looking into the Republican drainage as it parallels the Platte. jim tompkins

Both James Field in 1845 and John McBride in 1846, in chronicling their journey west from St. Joseph, make a similar reference to crossing the Republican River, a branch of the Kansas (which technically it is not), the day after crossing the Big Blue River and meeting the Oregon Trail from Independence (Burnett's Trace). Can any of you trail experts tell me what they are referring to here, and what river they might have confused with the Republican, and why both would be similarly confused, or just what exactly is going on here? Ross Smith

A. J. Price, 1866-1957, grew up in NW Sherman County, OR. In the 1930s and 1940s he wrote a number of articles for the Sherman County Journal about the early days of settlement in what was then Wasco County, OR. His folks operated a stage stop at Sand Spring S of Biggs, his father, Samuel Price, having come to present-day Sherman County in 1862. In 1894 the remains of a burial were exposed by the wind at the mouth of Spanish Hollow, Biggs [Junction], on the Columbia River in Sherman County, OR. This is an unusually sandy site, known for the sand blowing and drifting, as high as second story windows in the early days. Samuel Price boxed the remains and gave notice of their finding, speculating that it was a grave dating to 1843. Disposition of the remains is unknown. No further information. No research offered. Submitted by Sherry Kaseberg. Visit the National-Award-Winning Sherman County Historical Museum Moro, Oregon www.shermanmuseum.org/ May through October Daily 10-5 [email protected] USGenWeb - www.rootsweb.com/~orsherma/index.htm

Regarding the Taylor/Copple marriage certificate found in an antique store in Oregon. I found COPPLE in Oregon 1880 COPPLE DANIEL Benton County OR 121 Philomath Pct Federal Population Schedule OR 1880 1860 COPPLE JOHN Douglas County OR 149 Winchester Precinct Found in book: Pioneer Families of the Oregon Territory 1850 Taylor, James (Clackamas 268, Sc. 1) There were 49 James Taylor names that come up for old Oregon census! Laura

Listers Here are some helpful addresses when writing for marriage records and divorce records. Birth and death records have a different address, see below. Oregon For general information about what you can find through state resources, see the topic All about state resources. Information about vital records: Write to: Oregon Health Division Vital Statistics Section P.O. Box 14050 Portland, OR 97293 They currently have birth and death records since January 1903, marriage records since January 1906, and divorce records since 1925. Call (503) 731-4108 for costs. For marriage records, you can also check with the County Clerk in the county where the license was issued. For divorce records, you can also check with the County Circuit Court Clerk in the county where the divorce was granted. For births and deaths occurring in Portland between 1880 and 1903, write to: Archives Division Secretary of State 800 Summer Street NE Salem, OR 97310 Information about state archives and libraries: Write to: Archives Division Secretary of State 800 Summer Street NE Salem, OR 97310 Telephone: (503) 373-0701 Hours: Monday-Friday 8:00-5:00, closed Saturday, Sunday, and state holidays They currently have death certificates from 1903-1943, probate records, naturalization records, land records, federal census records from 1850-1920, territorial census records from 1842-1905, rosters from Indian wars in the territory, Catholic church records, district, county, and Supreme court records, some marriage records, a marriage index from 1906-1992 with a 20 year gap from 1926-1946, poll books, voter abstracts, local histories, maps, and tax rolls from 1845-1900. Information about state genealogical societies: Write to: Genealogical Forum of Oregon, Inc. Headquarters and Library 2130 S.W. 5th Ave., Suite 220 Portland, OR 97201 Telephone: (503) 227-2398 Hours: Monday and Saturday 9:30-3:00, Tuesday and Thursday 9:30-8:00, Sunday noon-5:00 Publications: Bulletin-Genealogical Forum of Oregon, The Forum Insider Newsletter, Genealogical Forum of Portland Oregon Yearbook Genealogical Heritage Council of Oregon Douglas County Courthouse, Room 111 P.O. Box 579 Roseburg, OR 97470 Telephone: (541) 440-6178 Hours: Tuesday-Friday 1:00-4:00, first Tuesday of the month 10:00-8:00, closed all other days Oregon Genealogical Society 223 North "A" Street, Suite F, Springfield (location) P.O. Box 10306 (mailing address) Eugene, OR 97440-2306 Telephone: (541) 746-7924 Hours: Monday 10:00-2:00, Wednesday and Friday 10:00-6:00, Saturday 10:00-4:00 (except the fourth Saturday of each month), Sunday 12:00-4:00, closed Tuesday and Thursday Publications: Oregon Genealogical Society Quarterly, Oregon Genealogical Society Newsletter

Quite sometime ago, early December, 1999, Marsha Bradley-Luthy wrote asking me if I was aware of her family's interest in the Barlow store and she quoted a journal written by Nancy R. Stewart from a History of Walter Fish Family, Sept 26,1949, Found at State Library OSL NS-1a. It begins: "I am writing this for my mother whose name is Nancy Roxana Fish Stewart born near Oregon City, in 1858 and daughter of Walter Fish. " The next sentence: "Her Father crossed the planes in 1847 and settled on a farm 6 miles South up the Willamette from Oregon City and 1 mile from Rock Island in a wild region. A large Eddy near the farm was named for her father Fishes Eddy." My note: Walter Fish came to Oregon 1847.... the same year William E. Larkins family came to Oregon. Two of William E. Larkins' daughters married two of Samuel K. Barlow's sons: Rachel m. William Barlow, and Rebecca m. James Barlow. Nancy Roxanna (Fish) Stewart tells that: "In 1866 they sold the place and moved to Oregon City. Father bough [sic] the old Barlow grocery Store later on put in Hardware. It was the largest store in Oregon City he bough6t [sic] his coffee in 100 lbs sacks also the peanuts mother would take the green coffee beans put them in a _____pan put in the oven and brown. them she would take a tablespoos of butter 2 of brown Sugar pore over then browed coffe she would roast it in the oven until it was glazed There it was sold in the Store they rosted the peanuts in the oven she took one day to do the work. In one corner of the store my father operated the first telegraph office that was in Oregon." Note: According to Clackamas County Grantee/Grantor records I have in my library file, Walter Fish obtained deeds beginning May 7, 1855 from A. and B. Holley, Section 28 Twp. 3 Range 1. Feb 12, 1859 from I.F. and R.S. Beals Sec. 28 Twp 3 Range 1 Oct 25, 1860 from A.F. Hedges [Fish received a bond] * Jan 22, 1861 from R.S. & I.F. Beals Section 28 Twp 3, Range 1 Apr. 13, 1864 from G.W. Fish Section 28, Twp. 5, Range 2 Apr. 13 1864 from E.E. Fish, Section 28, Twp 5, Range 2 Mar 13, 1867 from M.A. & William Barlow- Plot L1, Block 1, Oregon City* Note: The record of Walter Fish's purchase of "the Barlow store" was negotiated Mar 13, 1867 from M.A. & William Barlow- Plot L1, Block 1, Oregon City. The actual record can be found at Oregon City courthouse, in Book E580, on microfilm. Note: Absalom Hedges m. Samuel K. Barlow's youngest daughter Elizabeth Jane Barlow. He first settled on one of the four corners of Molalla. Out of the four corners of Molalla, there were three Barlow connections. William Barlow shared a corner and William E. Larkins shared another corner. William Barlow states in his reminiscences that he sold his place soon after 1847 and moved into Oregon City He and Absalom Hedges joint ventured in platting out Canemah. Nancy Roxanna (Fish) Stewart also states, regarding her family's 1847 arrival: "In the group as I remember was Rev. Dr. Atkinson and Wife, William Barlow* and wife.... " Note: Nancy Roxanna(Fish) Stewart's parents DID NOT travel with William Barlow and wife..... They may have traveled with William E. Larkins' family, whose daughter, Rachel Larkins later married William Barlow after they arrived Oregon City. /s/ Jackie (from state of Washington) <[email protected]> ======================================== ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

The musuem in Lafayatte is actually the home of the Yamhill County Historical Society and they are very much still in existence. They have three buildings now, one of which is their wonderful log cabin. Besides some fantastic displays they maintain surname files that are quite helpful. To find out their hours go to the Yamhill county site on the US Genweb and then click on the Historical Society listing. Mimi Stang

I have found a marriage certificate in our local antiques store. The couple is James W Taylor and Bertha A. Copple of Wasco County. They were married in 1898. If this is anyone's line let me know and I will get the Certificate. Wendi Condon, Oregon

I found 46 HOOVER names in Oregon census. Any links? Does anyone know anything about the Layfayette, OR Museum? Are they still in operation? It is near McMinneville and they have a new building next to the old one. Laura 1844 HOOVER JACOB Bancroft'slist OR Overland Immigrants OR 1841-1849 1860 HOOVER PETER Benton County OR 027 Lloyds 1880 HOOVER PETER Benton County OR 106 Alsea Pct 1880 HOOVER AARON Coos County OR 396 Halls Prairie Pct 1880 HOOVER ANDREW Coos County OR 396 Halls Prairie Pct 1890 HOOVER DANIEL Crook County OR 001 Black Butte Pct OR 1890 1890 HOOVER JOHN W. Curry County OR Eckley, Etc OR 1890 1880 HOOVER EMMA Douglas County OR 482 Deer Creek Pct 1870 HOOVER G. W. Douglas County OR 321 Deerk Creek 1880 HOOVER GEORGE W. Douglas County OR 487 Roseburg -----Original Message----- From: Kay M Flory Metsker [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 10:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: HOOVER, SARGE, FLORY Surname: HOOVER, SARGE, FLORY ------------------------- John C. HOOVER born in Stark County Ohio, March of 1848 died 26 Aug 1926 YAmhill County, Mcminnville OR. son of John HOOVER and Elizabeth FLORY. Married 1876 in Stark County Ohio to Ella C. SARGE (SURGE) born Dec 4, 1852, Burke Co PA to Stephen J. SURGE, mother unknown. died Jan 11, 1914 buried Masonic Cem , McMinnville Or. Children 7 born only known are: George born 1883 StarkCo Ohio Edward L. born in Ohio Thomas I. born Nov 13, 1884 in Oregon John T. born Nov 13, 1884 in Oregon . JOhn T. died Feb 14, 1905 in McMinnville, stated he was married on death certificate but wife's name not given. do not know how he died? Can anyone help. An obit would help. Willing to pay for time, copies, parking etc. no nothing more about this family than I have given, Except John C. was an engineer. KAy Flory Metsker [email protected] ============================== Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at http://resources.rootsweb.com/

Someone posted this to the list back in Nov 99. I'd like further information from the original writer but don't know how to proceed to find her, not being familiar with the list involved. Then again, maybe the author is a member of this CARR_L or someone else is familiar with this family? I was hoping for some of the missing dates of birth and/or other details. Pat Subj: [CARR-L] [Fwd: Carr Date: 11/14/1999 3:21:11 PM Eastern Standard Time To: [email protected] Got this off another list. Received: from familysearch.org - 32.82.11.12 by ldsfws002.usf.ibm.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1774.114.11); Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:24:12 -0600 From: carr<[email protected]> To: carr<[email protected]> Subject: (no subject) Message-Id: <[email protected]> Date: 14 Nov 1999 12:24:17 -0600 HI I was married to a Harold R. Carr (Bud) who lived in Southern California. His father's name was George Robert Carr and his grand fathers name was Hugh Carr, his great grandfather was George Washington Carr. Anyone have any information on this family line?? I sure would appreciate it. Thank you. I traced George W. Carr to Crewell, Oregon where he died 5 July 1902. Any help would be appreciated. __________________ NOTE: There is a Creswell, OR (Lane Co) just south of Eugene, OR. I find no reference to a Crewell, OR. Pat Noble Always interested in your Carrs. Don't forget to visit: My Carr Database at RootsWeb's WorldConnect Project http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=pnoble66 - ----------------------------------------------------- End of forwarded message

Searching for surnames BECKLEY GROOM These are associated lines to my KIRBY, FUDGE, GALLOWAY, HALES from Oregon to Columbia Co. Washington. Children of Francis Evaline KIRBY and James H. FUDGE are: i. Tracy Wilbur FUDGE was born 1 JUL 1887 in Huntsville, Columbia, Washington, and died 20 MAY 1958 in Walla Walla, Walla Walla, Washington. He married Bessie Eva GROOM 19 SEP 1912 in Walla Walla, Walla Walla, Washington. 1. ii. Edith Harriet FUDGE was born 7 NOV 1889 in Huntsville, Columbia, Washington, and died 1959. She married Willis H. HALES 19 NOV 1914 in Huntsville, Columbia, Washington, son of Charles HALES and Cindy GALLOWAY. He was born 1891, and died 1942. iii. Ethel Cordelia FUDGE was born 1 JAN 1892 in Huntsville, Columbia, Washington. She married Herbert Frederic BECKLEY 8 NOV 1917 in Huntsville, Columbia, Washington. He was born 6 MAR 1886 in South Dakota, and died 2 DEC 1974 in Spokane, Spokane, Washington. Edith Harriet FUDGE was my grandmother and Franklin Co. Washington auditor in the 1950's. Laura in Seattle

Listers, post your DAHL lines I found 2 in the Oregon Census through 1890 1880 DAHL H. Benton County OR 076 Corvallis City Federal Population Schedule OR 1880 Federal Census Index OR16615508 1880 DAHL THYGE Multnomah County OR 348 Portland Federal Population Schedule OR 1880 Federal Census Index OR16647195 I hope this hope helps someone out....Laura Check the BLM site for land records.

In the "Genealogical Material in Oregon Donation Land Claims" Vol. II, published by the Genealogical Forum of Oregon in 1980 I find the following: Oregon Donation Land Claim #4476 - Tillotson, George. Polk County, Oregon. b. 1816 Tompkins County, New York. Arrived Oregon 25 August 1852; Settled Claim 24 August 1855. Md. Almira (ElmiraYule - Yale) 31 July 1853) Oregon City, Oregon Territory. Affidavit: Frederick Waymire, Isaac Zumwalt and Stephen K. Waymire. This is eveidently a second wife but gives you a place to search before he came to Oregon. You can order the complete Donation Land Claim record from the Oregon State Archives by writing or sending them an e-mail at their online site. Copies are 25 cents a page, plus postage. In an extract of the 1880 Polk County census I find the family living in Dallas - George 63, Almira, 62 and Ellen, 23. I also find George buried in the Dallas Cemetery - d. January 11, 1890. Hope this helps. Mimi Stang

You can also get the set through the FHC. We have the complete set at or FHC on Fiche. Everyone on my father's side of the family crossed the plains to Oregon and is in this set of books. Leta Denny Christiansen ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 3:40 PM Subject: Re: Tillotson > In the "Genealogical Material in Oregon Donation Land Claims" Vol. II, > published by the Genealogical Forum of Oregon in 1980 I find the following: > > Oregon Donation Land Claim #4476 - Tillotson, George. Polk County, Oregon. > b. 1816 Tompkins County, New York. Arrived Oregon 25 August 1852; Settled > Claim 24 August 1855. Md. Almira (ElmiraYule - Yale) 31 July 1853) Oregon > City, Oregon Territory. Affidavit: Frederick Waymire, Isaac Zumwalt and > Stephen K. Waymire. > > This is eveidently a second wife but gives you a place to search before he > came to Oregon. > > You can order the complete Donation Land Claim record from the Oregon State > Archives by writing or sending them an e-mail at their online site. Copies > are 25 cents a page, plus postage. > > In an extract of the 1880 Polk County census I find the family living in > Dallas - George 63, Almira, 62 and Ellen, 23. I also find George buried in > the Dallas Cemetery - d. January 11, 1890. > > Hope this helps. Mimi Stang >

I'm looking for information on George TILLOTSON who crossed the Oregon Trail in 1852. His wife (name not known) died on the trail. He is known to have an infant daughter (Evaline born 1852 in IN) with him. There may have been other children. Cecil -- Cecil Houk, ET1 USN Ret., AG6I San Diego CA 92154-3654 mailto:[email protected] ANDERSON-BLAKELY-EGGERS-FORD-HOUK-KIMSEY-MONTGOMERY-RULAFORD-SIMPSON Searchable GEDCOM: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cchouk See also: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=donhouk My Web page menu: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cchouk/rulaford/menu.htm

Searchers of the Polk County Oregon data on your ancestors. Polk County Genealogical society was formed to publish the cemeteries in Polk County, Oregon. We have published 6 cemetery books; 2 marriage books; 3 census books and death records. We are all too old now and are giving up our group and will turn all our material over to Polk Historical Society. Libraries by region Polk county libraries, genealogy links http://www.wou.edu/provost/plin/PolkFinder/PolkFinder_FullOutput.cfm?uID=359 try to cut and paste http://www.wou.edu Laura in Seattle

Searchers in the NW here is a list of every address for the Historical Societies of Oregon. They are wonderful! Each has a newsletter to subscribe to and hopefully a willing volunteer to help. They also sell books for their region. Contact them and ask if they have a "file," on your surname. ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/roots-l/genealog/genealog.vital-or Laura in Seattle

Does anyone have family history in FRANKLIN CO. Pasco area or BENTON CO. Kennewick, WASHINGTON??? There is not much on the old census, but there are STORIES out there and would like to hear them. I graduated from Kennewick in 1965 and after the class reunion July 8th we had 4500 people there, several generations of each family. It was a great way to search history! There is a website for each high school in the Tri-Cities which is a GREAT WAY TO SEARCH SURNAMES TALK DIRECTLY WITH PEOPLE WHO KNEW YOUR GRANDPA!!! There are messages with hotlinks to the EMAIL ADDRESSES, for graduates back to 1910!!! Richland http://allbombers.tripod.com/ Kennewick http://www.3rdwave.com/khsreunion/index.shtml Pasco http://www.pasco.wednet.edu/pascoschools/pascohigh/alumni/index.html SEARCH MARRIAGE RECORDS AFTER 1907 http://www.vitalrec.com/marriage.html Enjoy, Laura in Seattle Laura in Seattle GALLOWAY, HALES, FUDGE, SMITH TEEL, KIRBY, ALEXANDER GIBSON, TURNER, PORTER