In a message dated 9/1/00 12:02:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Below is and article by R. J. Hendricks, called "Bits for Breakfast" published in the Oregon Statesman, on February 16, 1936. >> Yes, I would be interested. Andrea

Your trek sounds wonderful - a fellow genealogist and I have made several trips throughout Oregon these past months - visiting cemeteries and courthouses - always a thrill to find another treasure.....Best regards, Bev Moltzau - Bend, OR ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 12:00 PM Subject: OREGON-TRAIL-D Digest V00 #112

Thanks Walt, for that very interesting post. I love those trail stories. It never ceases to amaze me what strong, brave people our ancestors were. We never take a motor trip that I don't imagine what it would be like to have been one of those pioneers. I'm afraid I'd never have made it.. I'm too spoiled with air conditioned cars & houses and living in relatively safe and comfortable conditions. Katy In a message dated 8/31/2000 5:46:40 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: <<I am putting this story in because of an email on the Oregon-trails list about the 1842 train as one can see it all ties in. ____________________________________ It was somewhere near here that we passed through the Sweetwater canyon. We saw a high cliff that had many names carved on it. away in the wild country, it seemed strange to us. Someone told us a story about two of the names that were carved high above all the others that were there. One of the names was Hastings and the other was Lovejoy. It may have been Lovejoy, himself, who told it. He had passed that way the year before with a small horseback party on its way to the west coast. They were mostly mountain men and trappers, about forty in all. It was the names of the members of this party that we saw carved on the face of the cliff. Lovejoy had come back to meet us, so perhaps he pointed the names out to us himself and told us the story about them. He and Hastings watched the others till they had finished then they climbed still higher on the cliff, so that their names might top the list, while they worked, their friends rode on to make camp on the bank of the stream. The young men had climbed to a place quite high on the face of the mountain, and to reach it, they had taken a round about way, pulling themselves higher and higher by holding to the clumps of wild shrubs or tiny ledges that projected far enough to give them finger and toe holds. At last they reached a wider ledge and started to work their way across to the water course. They were then at a point where they could look across the canyon and see where the rest of the party were making camp. Something caused them to glance down. They took one look and wished that they were mountain goats or beetles or anything except what they were, two boys marooned on the face of a cliff with a band of Indians directly below them. The Indians had already found the guns. They were handing them about and examining them with apparently great delight. The boys knew that it would be but a moment till they were discovered. One of them was wise enough to take off his red handkerchief and tie it to a bush. He hoped that the party at camp would see it and take it for what it was, a signal of distress. Something, a loose pebble, maybe, or as Lovejoy afterwards said, it may have been the beating of his heart that attracted the attention of the Indians. In any case they were discovered and the Indians motioned for them to come down. There was nothing else for them to do. The hanging out of the handkerchief was a very fortunate thing for them. It happened exactly as they had hoped. Someone at the camp saw it and thought of Indians at once, so a dozen or so men went back to the place, where they had left the boys. They got there barely in time, for the Indians were just starting away with their prisoners. In those days, the Indians did not seem to desire blood or scalps. They held their prisoners for ransom. Lovejoy may not have told us about it in the first place, but we came to know him very well and I have often heard him say that as long as he lived he would never be able to look himself in the face and say that he amounted to much till he could forget that the Indians had sold him back to his friends for a twist of tobacco, and the Indians threw in the two guns for good measure. Walt Davies Monmouth, OR >>

Below is and article by R. J. Hendricks, called "Bits for Breakfast" published in the Oregon Statesman, on February 16, 1936. Unfortunately, I only have 2 parts of a continuing article. I am only posting one at this time. In the hope that someone will find an ancestor listed here, I have taken the liberty of capitalizing all surnames. +++++++++++QUOTE+++++++++++ BITS FOR BREAKFAST By R. J. Hendricks The city of Stayton and its trade district have interesting history. (continuing from yesterday) The answer under date of Feb 7, of H. C. PORTER, Aumsville's most prominent citizen and oldest native son, follows: In answer to yours of the 3rd, will state that Allen J. DAVIE married a daughter of Gabriel BROWN, and that his donation land claim joined BROWN'S on the west. Henry FOSTER married another one of his daughters, and his donation land claim joined BROWN'S on the south. Levy GARTMAN married another daughter, and his claim joined BROWN'S on the north. Gabriel BROWN'S son, James D. BROWN, owned a claim about a mile or a mile and a quarter north of Sublimity on the east side of the road opposite and east of the Philip GLOVER donation land claim. John BROWN I believe was Gabriel BROWN'S youngest son, and he lived near Sublimity, but just where his claim was located, I do not know. It was perhaps joining Gabriel BROWN'S claim on the east, and if so, James DENNY may have bought land on this claim on which to lay off the town of Sublimity. John BROWN was living in southern Oregon and took part in the Modoc War, as a volunteer I suppose, and was reported as 'missing'. However, George DAVIE, a barber at Stayton and a grandson of A. J. DAVIE, told me a few days ago that his body and those of four other men were found in the lava beds after the war was over. A little later there was another family of BROWNS near Sublimity, the father's name being Meriweather BROWN. ( I do not know just how this name was spelled), and he had five sons, the eldest one being named James, who was of dark complexion and in order to distinguish him from Gabriel BROWN'S son James, they were referred to as black Jim and sandy Jim. A. J. DAVIE'S oldest daughter married Louis MILLER and MILLER'S daughter married Isaac SMALL, the father of Brazier SMALL. I do not know anything about August of Joseph HENDRICKS. As Tom HENDRICKS and the BRISTOWS crossed the plains with our people in 1848, it might be that some of the HENDRICKSES stopped off in this neighborhood for a while, but I do not think this was the case. Robert DOWNING of Salem or J. B. GRIER of Stayton might be able to give you some light on the matter. Carter KEEN was an early settler and owned a donation land claim about one and a half miles northwest of Stayton. But the KEEN family have long been residents of French Prairie. J. B. GRIER of Stayton could give you much information about the early residents of Sublimity and the vicinity. There was a Charley BENSON, known by everybody for his eccentricities and uprightness of character. Mrs. BENSON was a GREENSTREET when I first discovered she walked six or seven miles and cared for me the first few weeks of my existence. She afterward named one of her boys after me, the late Henry BENSON who recently passed away on the old homestead. Mrs. Herman SCHELLBERG of Salem is a daughter of Charles BENSON. There are so many of these old pioneers who played an important part in the laying of the foundation of this western empire, men and women who long since crossed the great divide and their names are being forgotten, leaving to the people of Oregon a sacred obligation they owe to these early pioneers to perpetuate their memories in some way. And, as I have heretofore suggested, that a suitable room be set apart and dedicated to their memory and their names in alphabetical order arranged in volumes properly indexed of all who came to Oregon or were born here prior to the year 1860, said room to be constructed in our new state capitol now being planned for, I hereby renew my plea that a room in our new capitol be dedicated to the pioneers of Oregon. The reader has no doubt noted that the Bits man spells the name DAVEY--Allen Jones DAVEY, whereas Mr. PORTER spells it DAVIE, along with many others; and be it known. many writers of Oregon history have made it DAVY. The Bits man holds that he is correct, and has heretofore argued his side of the case in this column. BASHFORD, historian, give among the '42 immigrants, "GIRTMAN and family." No doubt the "Levy GARTMAN" of Mr. PORTER was a member of that family. BASHFORD mentions in the '42 immigration Gabriel BROWN and family, and separately, James BROWN and William BROWN. BASHFORD gives "FOSTER" as a member of the '42 immigration. No doubt the Henry FOSTER who married a daughter of Gabriel BROWN was in that immigration. Henry PORTER accounts for four Gabriel BROWN daughters married to men in the Stayton-Sublimity-Aumsville district. There was at least one more Gabriel BROWN daughter. She was Adaline, married to Medorem CRAWFORD at the old mission 19 miles by water below the site of Salem, an incident of one of the early and outstanding romances of pioneer Oregon. (continued on Tuesday) ++++++++++UNQUOTE++++++++++ If the above is of any interest to anyone beside me, let me know and I will post the continuation of the "Bits for Breakfast" article, dated Tuesday, Feb 18, 1936. Katy

Where can one find this book of remembrance? Who is the Author? Thanks for the help. Kathy Jerman

Katy -- It gets even more interesting than that. Sarah Hunt Steeves herself, is the daughter of Elizabeth Smith Hunt, who came on the Barlow Road in 1847, in a large company led by her father Doc Smith, the brother of my other Smith ancestor who came west in 1846, my gt-gt- gf Absalom Smith, who was among the first to use the Barlow Road in 46. Doc Smith died after crossing through South Pass in 47, which Steeves documents in a piece on her uncle, Moses Ira Smith, on page 118, a young 20-year-old who brought the whole company in. Doc's widow (Steeves grandmother) Nancy Scott Wisdom Smith Hunt (page 109) married Steeves grandfather on her father's side, John S. Hunt (page 93) who also came over in 1847.. Finally, Steeves mother Elizabeth Smith Hunt married George Washington Hunt, to whom the Book of Remembrances is dedicated, whose bio on page 109, shows the birth of their six child, Sarah Fiducia, 4-27-71, who married a real doctor, Burpee Laban Steeves, M.D. When she was 56, she performed the valuable service of assembling this book for publication in 1927. . Although there are numerous pioneer stories all very interesting, what Steeves is best remembered for are two classic pieces, "Pioneer Boy", page 71, a real tear-jerker about James Layton Collins, a 13-year-old boy who "sobbed himself to sleep," and the story of Octavius Pringle, page 80, a 14-year-old boy who is sent ahead all alone for provisions 'cause he's the only one the starving family can spare. You can probably get this book through your library or at the state library in Salem. It is a must for learning about early trail pioneers. ras [email protected] wrote: > Thanks Ross, for the information on your Smith ancestors. Fascinating! I > do not have Steeves' book, I only have a copy of a few pages relating to my > Brown family. SMITH & BROWN ANCESTORS! WOW! How can we get more > genealogically challenged than that? :-) > I posted the info from Steeves because I am new to the list, and thought > those little tid-bits might be an interesting way for me to get to acquainted > with others on the list. > ....Katy > > In a message dated 8/31/2000 5:43:09 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > << I'm not sure why you brought up Steeves piece on Henry Smith, but so > long as you did, I would like to mention that while Steeves is usually a > quite > reliable source, her information often comes from descendants who are giving > her > stories that have gotten distorted down through the telling -- as is the > case with > the Henry Smith bio. > Henry Smith did come the Southern Route in 1846 with his brother James > Smith > (who is my gt-gt-grandfather), but Steeves has James Smith dropping dead in > the > Cow Creek Canyon trajedy, while extolling his party to not give up and keep > moving. If fact, it was William Smith, the captain of the large Smith/Long > party, > but otherwise no relation to Henry & James. > Henry Smith did take over for William, and also took responsibility for > William Smith's widow Ellen and her eight children, and helped them get > settled in > Marion county near west Stayton, and also helped raise the children. All of > this > is documented in a piece by William Smith's daughter Angeline Smith Crews > (see > OHS), who was only nine years old at the time, and referred to Henry Smith > who was > 27-years old on the trail as "old Uncle Henry." We should be so old, yes? >>

Thanks Ross, for the information on your Smith ancestors. Fascinating! I do not have Steeves' book, I only have a copy of a few pages relating to my Brown family. SMITH & BROWN ANCESTORS! WOW! How can we get more genealogically challenged than that? :-) I posted the info from Steeves because I am new to the list, and thought those little tid-bits might be an interesting way for me to get to acquainted with others on the list. ....Katy In a message dated 8/31/2000 5:43:09 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << I'm not sure why you brought up Steeves piece on Henry Smith, but so long as you did, I would like to mention that while Steeves is usually a quite reliable source, her information often comes from descendants who are giving her stories that have gotten distorted down through the telling -- as is the case with the Henry Smith bio. Henry Smith did come the Southern Route in 1846 with his brother James Smith (who is my gt-gt-grandfather), but Steeves has James Smith dropping dead in the Cow Creek Canyon trajedy, while extolling his party to not give up and keep moving. If fact, it was William Smith, the captain of the large Smith/Long party, but otherwise no relation to Henry & James. Henry Smith did take over for William, and also took responsibility for William Smith's widow Ellen and her eight children, and helped them get settled in Marion county near west Stayton, and also helped raise the children. All of this is documented in a piece by William Smith's daughter Angeline Smith Crews (see OHS), who was only nine years old at the time, and referred to Henry Smith who was 27-years old on the trail as "old Uncle Henry." We should be so old, yes? >>

[email protected] wrote: > > Subject: Noble and Marks quest in Oregon > Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 12:19:55 -0700 > From: "Marilyn Schwartz" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > > > > My sisters and I just had such a wonderful 2-day jaunt to Oregon in quest > of > > our NOBLE and MARKS heritage, I'd love to share it. I know I have been in > > touch with many of you in search of my family, so some of this information > > is a repeat. I hope I don't bore you too badly. > > > > We found the donation land claim of our great-great-grandparents, William > > Sherman Noble and Sarah Noble, who crossed the Oregon Trail from Ohio (via > > Iowa) in 1850. It is such a gorgeous piece of property in the Willamette > > Valley -- mostly flat, rich farmland with gentle, rolling hills around, > and > > the Cascade Mountains majestically rising to the east. The Santiam River > > runs nearby, and the Old Santiam Wagon Road also passes very near. "Noble > > Slough" runs through the property. They must have felt they'd arrived in > > heaven when they got there! We found the Liberty/Nye cemetery where > William > > was buried, though not his grave. Lots of wonderful old graves of Oregon > > Trail pioneers, however, which were fascinating. > > Marilyn, I run Wallowa County GenWeb. I have a large amount of information on your Marks from the County. Most of it comes from the 1983 Wallowa County book. Would you like the information I have on them? My e-mail address is: [email protected] Would be glad to send you the info. I have on them in my family treemaker. I'm building a large database for the county from all the info. I have at home and they are one of the ones, I've started putting into my computer. Sincerely, Janine M. Bork

Try the NORCAL-L list for Northern California.... Sue in MN

I am putting this story in because of an email on the Oregon-trails list about the 1842 train as one can see it all ties in. ____________________________________ It was somewhere near here that we passed through the Sweetwater canyon. We saw a high cliff that had many names carved on it. away in the wild country, it seemed strange to us. Someone told us a story about two of the names that were carved high above all the others that were there. One of the names was Hastings and the other was Lovejoy. It may have been Lovejoy, himself, who told it. He had passed that way the year before with a small horseback party on its way to the west coast. They were mostly mountain men and trappers, about forty in all. It was the names of the members of this party that we saw carved on the face of the cliff. Lovejoy had come back to meet us, so perhaps he pointed the names out to us himself and told us the story about them. He and Hastings watched the others till they had finished then they climbed still higher on the cliff, so that their names might top the list, while they worked, their friends rode on to make camp on the bank of the stream. The young men had climbed to a place quite high on the face of the mountain, and to reach it, they had taken a round about way, pulling themselves higher and higher by holding to the clumps of wild shrubs or tiny ledges that projected far enough to give them finger and toe holds. At last they reached a wider ledge and started to work their way across to the water course. They were then at a point where they could look across the canyon and see where the rest of the party were making camp. Something caused them to glance down. They took one look and wished that they were mountain goats or beetles or anything except what they were, two boys marooned on the face of a cliff with a band of Indians directly below them. The Indians had already found the guns. They were handing them about and examining them with apparently great delight. The boys knew that it would be but a moment till they were discovered. One of them was wise enough to take off his red handkerchief and tie it to a bush. He hoped that the party at camp would see it and take it for what it was, a signal of distress. Something, a loose pebble, maybe, or as Lovejoy afterwards said, it may have been the beating of his heart that attracted the attention of the Indians. In any case they were discovered and the Indians motioned for them to come down. There was nothing else for them to do. The hanging out of the handkerchief was a very fortunate thing for them. It happened exactly as they had hoped. Someone at the camp saw it and thought of Indians at once, so a dozen or so men went back to the place, where they had left the boys. They got there barely in time, for the Indians were just starting away with their prisoners. In those days, the Indians did not seem to desire blood or scalps. They held their prisoners for ransom. Lovejoy may not have told us about it in the first place, but we came to know him very well and I have often heard him say that as long as he lived he would never be able to look himself in the face and say that he amounted to much till he could forget that the Indians had sold him back to his friends for a twist of tobacco, and the Indians threw in the two guns for good measure. Walt Davies Monmouth, OR

--- [email protected] wrote: > ATTACHMENT part 1 message/rfc822 > > OREGON-TRAIL-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 111 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: The Book of Remembrance ["Marilyn > Schwartz" <[email protected]] Marilyn wrote : "J.M. Hudspeath" on board. An earlier list had him (I presume) as "J.M. Hedspeth." I'm wondering if this might be the ancestor of the elusive Rebecca Hedgepath (or Hedgepeth, or Hedgpeth). She is the 2nd wife of my great-grandfather, James P. Marks, probably married in Wasco Co. around 1878. I seem to see a lot of different spellings -- maybe these are a couple more of the same name. Look familiar to anyone?" --------------------------------------------------- Marilyn, could your Rebecca Hedgepath be connected someone way to the "Hudspeth" family of Prineville, Crook Co., Oregon? If so, there is probably a lot of info at the Prineville Museum. The Hudspeth family were leaders in that community, owing a mill and more. Just a suggestion, Judy from Medford, Oregon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

My former mother in law asked me to do a little research. Her grandfather SK Lee and and grandmother (unknown name) came to San Francisco approx.. 1903 on the Mongolia. I have been checking Cindi's list as well as rootsweb, does anyone have any other sites I might try. I really love this list and my ancestors were the Halley's and Warnock and Cline who settled in Oregon. helen

I just received my September copy of national Geographic. It has an article on western migration that is accompanied by a map showing migration routes. It shows the Hudspeth cutoff. Looks like a good resource. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Tompkins <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 11:14 AM Subject: Re: The Book of Remembrance > >This first wagon train list has a "J.M. Hudspeath" on board. An earlier > >list had him (I presume) as "J.M. Hedspeth." I'm wondering if this might be > >the ancestor of the elusive Rebecca Hedgepath (or Hedgepeth, or Hedgpeth). > > >Look familiar to anyone? > > > >Marilyn S. > >Chelan > > > Yes he does. Although the Book of Remembrances spells it Hudspeath and > Elijah White's 1842 census spells it Hudspath, it is most likely J.M. > Hudspeth. He was one of the many 1842 emigrants who gave up on Oregon when > it refused to create an independent government and headed to California. > They met a group of Californians heading to Oregon and several south bound > men were turned around, but not Hudspeth. He would return east in 1849 to > guide miners to California. The Hudspeth Cut-off is named for him. It > crosses eastern Idaho, avoiding Ft Hall for those temporary bachelors in a > hurry. > > jim tompkins > > >

Bonjour, I saw the mention of the Book of Remembrance of Marion Co. in Katy's post. I am still collecting names of 1851 O.T. Pioneers and copies of journals and narratives of that year's migration. If Katy sees any 1851 folks in that book, I sure would appreciate having a note from her with copies of the entries. If anyone else out there has any of these old books with short bio's and can check them for 1851 folks, I'd love to add them to add to my list of upwards of 4,000 names. I have had several kind people already check some of these old county history publications for me, so if you think you can help with my project, please check with me. Thanks. Albert Belanger 128 Middle Road Brentwood, NH 03833 [email protected] (Researching the 1851 O.T. migration and BLANCHARD, BOWMAN, LINK, HALL, and NOLAN of that year's trek)

Katybugg -- I'm not sure why you brought up Steeves piece on Henry Smith, but so long as you did, I would like to mention that while Steeves is usually a quite reliable source, her information often comes from descendants who are giving her stories that have gotten distorted down through the telling -- as is the case with the Henry Smith bio. Henry Smith did come the Southern Route in 1846 with his brother James Smith (who is my gt-gt-grandfather), but Steeves has James Smith dropping dead in the Cow Creek Canyon trajedy, while extolling his party to not give up and keep moving. If fact, it was William Smith, the captain of the large Smith/Long party, but otherwise no relation to Henry & James. Henry Smith did take over for William, and also took responsibility for William Smith's widow Ellen and her eight children, and helped them get settled in Marion county near west Stayton, and also helped raise the children. All of this is documented in a piece by William Smith's daughter Angeline Smith Crews (see OHS), who was only nine years old at the time, and referred to Henry Smith who was 27-years old on the trail as "old Uncle Henry." We should be so old, yes? ras [email protected] wrote: > Excerpts from: > “BOOK OF REMEMBRANCE OF MARION COUNTY OREGON PIONEERS” > 1840-1860 > by Sarah Hunt Steeves > Published in 1927 by the Berncliff Press, Portland, Oregon > > Page 89: > “After their arrival in October of 1846, Henry Smith bought the right to > a donation > land claim of 640 aces from one William Brown, a relative of Gabriel Brown, > Pioneer of 1844. William had built a log cabin and fenced about ten acres, > planting it with potatoes. He sold the fine claim to Mr. Smith for the > fabulous sum of one old horse and a gun, the only possessions Henry Smith had > left, except his family, when he arrived in Marion county. > > Pages 12 & 13 > Allan Davie - 1842 > (source: Louisa Miller Small, Newspaper clippings and from old acquaintances) > > “No man among the early Oregon Pioneers coming in the forties was better > known than Allan J. Davie. He was a member of a train piloted across the > wilderness of that early date by F. X. Mattieu and the only one coming to > Oregon that year. Dr. White was the captain. This company found the first > white settlement west of the Cascade mountains at Willamette Falls. > The immigration of 1842 consisted of 109 people. Fifty-five of them were > over > eighteen years of age. There were 16 wagons and much cattle in the caravan. > They left Independence, Missouri on May 16, 1842, arrived the same fall at > Willamette Falls, October 5, 1842. > Stephen H. Meek, an experienced mountaineer, and employed by the Hudson > Bay Company, acted as their guide over the mountains, as they neared Oregon > country. In the pioneer train, besides small children, were: F. X. Matthieu, > Meldron > Crawford [ed note: should be “Medorem Crawford”], C. T. Arrendall, James > Brown, > William Brown, Gabriel Brown, Barnum, Hugh Burns, Geo. W. Bellamy, Mr. Bennett > and his son Bailey (killed in route), Nat Crocker, Nathan Coombs, Pat Clark, > Alex > Copeland, A.W. Coats, Allan Davie, John Deacum, J. Dobbinhess, Samuel Davis, > Henry Foster, John Force, James Force, Levi Gertman, a man by the name of > Gibbs, L. W. Hastings, Hardin Jones, J. M. Hudspeath, John Hoffstetter, A. L. > Lovejoy, Reuben Lewis, S. Pomeroy, J. W. Perry, “Dutch Paul”, J. R. Robb, > Owen Summer, T. J. Shadden, Andrew Smith, A. D. Smith, Darling Smith, Adam > Stino, Aaron Taioner, Joel Turnham, Elijah White, David Weston, and three > Frenchmen, names not known. > Henry Foster, Levi Gertman and Allan Davie each married a daughter of > Gabriel > Brown. Allan Davie had been west before, with the Hudson Bay Company, this > being his second overland trip. > Mr. Davie was one of the signers of the famous Champoeg document. By > some, it has been said that the timely arrival of Mr. Davie and his friend > Rueben Lewis, Oregon was saved to the United States, as it was their votes > that saved the day, as they were late in arriving. > Allan Jones Davie was born February 25, 1816, in Madison county, Alabama. > He > became acquainted with Cynthia Brown, daughter of Gabriel Brown, on the long > journey across the plains, and on March 19, 1844, they were married at > Champoeg by the Rev. David Leslie, a Methodist preacher. Cynthia, at the > time of her marriage, was known as the “Belle of Oregon”, because she was > the only marriageable young woman in the country and not because of her great > beauty of face. On the contrary it was said she was very plain. Hers was a > beauty of character that improves with the years. Cynthia was the second > white woman married in the new country, her sister, who married Henry Foster, > being the first. [ed note: Henry Foster married Mary “Polly” Brown] > They took up a donation land claim near Sublimity in September, 1849, > where they continued to make their home. Mr. Davie was raised in the > Presbyterian church and the Bible he carried through his pioneering showed > much use. He died on his farm, October 11, 1875. Mrs. Davie [Mary Brown > Davie] in after years, became a member of the Christian Church at Aumsville, > where she moved a few months prior to her demise, on March 28, 1903. > The children born to Allan Davie and his wife Cynthia, were: Sally; who > married > Louis Miller; James Polk who married Sarah Lutz; Elizabeth, who married Wm. P. > Gilbert; William R; Henry C. who married M. O. Hart; Octavia who married Frank > Grounds; Martha E. who married William Hogan; and Thomas W.

The Oregon Historical Society in Portland has a collection of Scrap Books. They have several of my relatives in there. I had copies made of a couple of pictures. They have newspaper articles too. I think it is a very good source if anyone is interested. I haven't lived in Oregon since 1946 but I go there every time I get a chance when up there. Leta Denny Christiansen

In a message dated 8/31/2000 11:37:18 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << I just read this from the Book Of Remembrance of Marion CO, and I was wondering if there may be some thing of Alexander Neal and Hugh McNeal, they both homesteaded in Marion Co.. Your help very much apprecitated,,, >> Rose... I only have those copied excerpts from the Book of Rememberance. I don't have the book. If I run across anything regarding your Alexander Neal or Hugh McNeal, I'll be sure to notify you. Do you have the dates they lived in Marion County? Katy

Rose: Re Steeves page 34-6 on the four Neal brothers that came over in 44 and had claims in West Stayton: Peter, Alexander, Calvin, and George W. -- the latter of whom the sketch is written (but mistitled Calvin), although Steeves does mention briefly their journey over. Ross Smith Rose Harnden wrote: > Hello... > I just read this from the Book Of Remembrance of Marion CO, > and I was wondering if there may be some thing of Alexander Neal > and Hugh McNeal, they both homesteaded in Marion Co.. > Your help very much apprecitated,,, > > Thanks > > Rose > [email protected] > ************************************************** > > [email protected] wrote: > > > Excerpts from: > > “BOOK OF REMEMBRANCE OF MARION COUNTY OREGON PIONEERS” > > 1840-1860 > > by Sarah Hunt Steeves > > Published in 1927 by the Berncliff Press, Portland, Oregon > > > >

HELLO OREGON Friends.. Here is my ancestors I am working on in Marion Co,Ore... Would very much appreciate any input that may be out there.. Have a good day.. [email protected] Alexander NEAl marr. Lydia BILYEU 1832 in Wash Co,Mo. and was in Ore with a ODLC 1846 in Marion Co.. Their Children: Eliza Jane NEAL..m, Henry TEETHERS Emaline NEAL,..m, James Hayden Pleasant NEAL.. Alexander NEAL,Jr..( MINE) marr,. Druzilla MCNEAL Dau of Hugh Peter NEAL Serena NEAL Charles NEAL.. m, Annie WEST Alva NEAL.. Joseph NEAL,, m, Nancy JOHNSON Franklin NEAL, ********************************** Alexander NEAL Jr, marr, 26 Oct 1873, in Marion CO,Ore. Druzilla and it is said the NEAL'S crossed the plains in 1844,Druzilla the Dau of Hugh MCNEAL and Sarah TOMPKINS and Hugh and Sarah came across in 1864, and all settled in Marion Co, near Stayton.. Hugh MCNEAl and Sarah TOMPKIN'S children, Rebecca McNEALm Jonathan MILLER George McNEAL, John McNEAL, Elizabeth McNEAl, Sarah McNEAL, m.. Calvin NEAL Druzilla McNEAL, marr Alexander NEAL Nathaniel McNEAL Mary Ann McNEAL Hugh McNEAL James McNEAL, m..Elizabeth OlEMAN in Marion Co,ORE,,,1896 THANK YOU for your help.. APPRECIATE IT.. Rose. *********************************************

I have two volumes of Fred Lockley's Impressions. because my GGP are in them. If your looking for a certain name let me know and I will see what I can find. My GGGP were James Givens Campbell and Elizabeth Amanda Black Campbell, and My two sets of GGP were Lucien B. Frazer and Elizabeth Amanda Campbell, and Aaron H. Denny and Almyra Amanda King. Leta Denny Christiansen ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 9:39 AM Subject: Oregon Journal-1935 > Below is a copy of a 1935 newspaper article from The Oregon Journal. Thought > this may be of some interest to the list. > Katy > ----------------------------------> > > IMPRESSIONS AND OBSERVATIONS OF THE JOURNAL MAN > by Fred Lockley > Oregon Journal-Sunday Morning May 5. 1935 > > > “I was born at Sublimity on April 1, 1856”, said Mrs. J. M. Rankin when > I interviewed her recently in her home on East Belmont Street. “My father’ s > name was James D. Brown. There were three James D. Brown’s at Sublimity. One > was called ‘Black Jim’, another, ‘Bach Jim’, and the third, who was my > father, “Sandy Jim”. My father was born in Kentucky. He was the son of > Gabriel Brown. They crossed the plains to Oregon in 1842. Dr. Elijah White > was captain of their wagon train. There were over 100 persons in the train. > My mother’s maiden name was Sarah Jane Evans. She was born in Missouri.” > “My grandfather’s grandfather was given what they call a ‘soldiers > script’ for his > services in the Revolutionary War. He was supposed to take up land in > Tennessee with it. I remember my father showing it to me, but I guess the > thing ran out, for nothing was ever done with it.” > “All the old-timers in the Waldo hills will remember my father, James D. > Brown, and my grandfather, Gabriel Brown, for they were early settlers there. > My father took a donation land claim not far from his father’s claim. > Father’s claim was half a mile from that of my Aunt Cynthia Brown Davie. > Aunt Cynthia was my father’s sister. She was born near Little Rock, > Arkansas, on January 5th, 1829. Her husband, Allen J. Davie, died in the > fall of 1875 and Aunt Cynthia lived until the Spring of 1903. > My Aunt Hulda’s place was not far away. All of us children called her > ‘Granny’. We all loved her dearly for she was a good soul. They moved to > Southern Oregon in 1865 and settled on Rogue River and we never saw them > anymore. > My father’s sister, Cynthia married Allen J. Davie at Champoeg on March > 18, 1844. Uncle Henry Foster was also one of the early settlers in the Waldo > Hills.” > “Allen J. Davie who married Aunt Cynthia took a claim near Sublimity in > the fall > of 1849. He was born in Alabama in 1816. My uncle, Allen J. Davie was > elected secretary of Sublimity College in 1857. I went to school there > during the last two years of the Civil War. Thomas H. Crawford was my > teacher.” > *** > Right here it might be well to give a brief note about Sublimity college. > On December 12, 1857, a bill was introduced in the territorial legislature to > establish a college at Sublimity. The bill became a law on January 8, 1858. > J. Denny, Thomas J. Conner, Eli Hubbard, Drury S. Stayton, Jessie Harritt, > William Bishop, Jeremiah Kenoyer, David R. McMillan, James Campbell, Hadley > Hobson, Solomon Albrison, > George W. Hunt, J. M. Chandler, Morgan Rudolph and Allen J. Davie were > appointed > trustees. The college was to be operated by the United Brethern Church. > Many years ago I interviewed W. H. Hobson, a pioneer merchant of Stayton, > whose father, Hadly Hobson, was one of the trustees. Hadley Hobson took a > donation land claim a mile north of Slayton. He was born in North Carolina > in 1811 and crossed the plains with his brothers George and Alfred in 1847. > They went > to California and in 1848 came by sailing vessel to Oregon. > Allen J. Davie was made the secretary and Milton Wright president of the > college. Milton Wright later moved to Dayton, Ohio. He became a bishop of the > United Brethern church. His sons, Orville and Wilbur, were the first > persons in the world to fly a heavier-than-air machine. Orville was born in > 1871 and he and > Wilbur made their first flight on December 17, 1903. > The tuition fee at Sublimity college was $5 a term of three months, but > for any study about the primary grade students had to pay 50 cents per term > for each additional study. >