I did not see and Bible bashing. All I see is one mans explanation of time. Also one should be careful who they chew on , you know not who they are or what they do in real life. In many case's it very well might be some one who knows what they are talking about. Might be more educated than some of us. I try to take things people say in context and try to remember them in the future when a situation applies , but at the time when mentioned and I dont know any thing about it, I let it pass , just thinking * uhh huh Ok Right !* <G> I did not pass on the note about the calendar to get any one into an uproar , but only as a note because it was new to me and the timing was right . I dont know a hill of beans about what I posted , but I do know when something is new to me I get into a frenzy to find out more. SO I posted this, in hopes some one who did know more would make a few comments . My apologies if any one was upset , it looked like a good thing to make note to a bunch of hard working genealogists who might be at a brick wall only because the dates changed some how. I know Jim personally and I know he is very deep in the Bible and far well knowing, I dont see it as a bash, but a note about even what other researchers of the Bible times are doing . We are still learning a lot about the past and should be some what open minded to new information . I left this whole thing in tact so you can read from the bottom up from my first post , I can document where I got what I posted . Any one know about the land calendars ? Spirals on cliffs with just large rocks placed so the light shows through at the right times? I was reading an article about those to, very interesting how the ancients knew so much and we are high tech and just learning some of what they did ? Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken & Rae Starnes" <kastar@escape.ca> To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [OREGON] RE:HAPPY NEW YEAR > Am replying to the note below. Why you telling people to not believe > thedates in the Bible. Do you have an explanation as to why, and what > right do you have to tell people what to believe and what not to > believe. That really disturbs me. If the calendars were different then > how different and why. If God chose to let them live that long he could > have, and they could have. So how long do you believe they lived. > Am sending this to everyone because I dont know who else to send it to. > My apologies if it shouldnt be on the list, but dont have time for Bible > Bashers. > Ken Starnes > > Jim Schira wrote: > > > > Another aside: Don't believe the dates in the > > Bible (old testament), such as people living 900+ > > years. Remember, the calendars they used are not the > > calendars we use. The Julian calendar wasn't invented > > until old Julius invented it, about the time of > > Christ. > > > > --- Dan M <wb@wvi.com> wrote: > > > In 1752, New Year's Day was changed from March 25th > > > to > > > January 1st. In that year, Great Britain and its > > > American colonies switched > > > calendars from Julian to Gregorian, which eliminated > > > eleven days from September > > > > > > HAPPY NEW YEAR FOLKS > > > > > > I wish you all peace and friendship for the new > > > Year. > > > > > > Dan > > > > > >

Dan I agree whole heartedly.........we must also remember that language in black & white sounds much harsher than when stated in person. (no human interaction) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan M" <wb@wvi.com> To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [OREGON] RE:HAPPY NEW YEAR > I did not see and Bible bashing. > All I see is one mans explanation of time. > Also one should be careful who they chew on , you know not who they are or > what they do in real life. In many case's it very well might be some one > who knows what they are talking about. > Might be more educated than some of us. > I try to take things people say in context and try to remember them in the > future when a situation applies , but at the time when mentioned and I dont > know any thing about it, I let it pass , just thinking * uhh huh Ok Right !* > <G> > > I did not pass on the note about the calendar to get any one into an uproar > , but only as a note because it was new to me and the timing was right . I > dont know a hill of beans about what I posted , but I do know when something > is new to me I get into a frenzy to find out more. SO I posted this, in > hopes some one who did know more would make a few comments . > > My apologies if any one was upset , it looked like a good thing to make note > to a bunch of hard working genealogists who might be at a brick wall only > because the dates changed some how. > I know Jim personally and I know he is very deep in the Bible and far > well knowing, I dont see it as a bash, but a note about even what other > researchers of the Bible times are doing . > We are still learning a lot about the past and should be some what open > minded to new information . > I left this whole thing in tact so you can read from the bottom up from > my first post , I can document where I got what I posted . > > Any one know about the land calendars ? Spirals on cliffs with just > large rocks placed so the light shows through at the right times? I was > reading an article about those to, very interesting how the ancients knew so > much and we are high tech and just learning some of what they did ? > > Dan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken & Rae Starnes" <kastar@escape.ca> > To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 4:59 PM > Subject: Re: [OREGON] RE:HAPPY NEW YEAR > > > > Am replying to the note below. Why you telling people to not believe > > thedates in the Bible. Do you have an explanation as to why, and what > > right do you have to tell people what to believe and what not to > > believe. That really disturbs me. If the calendars were different then > > how different and why. If God chose to let them live that long he could > > have, and they could have. So how long do you believe they lived. > > Am sending this to everyone because I dont know who else to send it to. > > My apologies if it shouldnt be on the list, but dont have time for Bible > > Bashers. > > Ken Starnes > > > > Jim Schira wrote: > > > > > > Another aside: Don't believe the dates in the > > > Bible (old testament), such as people living 900+ > > > years. Remember, the calendars they used are not the > > > calendars we use. The Julian calendar wasn't invented > > > until old Julius invented it, about the time of > > > Christ. > > > > > > --- Dan M <wb@wvi.com> wrote: > > > > In 1752, New Year's Day was changed from March 25th > > > > to > > > > January 1st. In that year, Great Britain and its > > > > American colonies switched > > > > calendars from Julian to Gregorian, which eliminated > > > > eleven days from September > > > > > > > > HAPPY NEW YEAR FOLKS > > > > > > > > I wish you all peace and friendship for the new > > > > Year. > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the Oregon-L > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

> Any one know about the land calendars ? Spirals > on cliffs with just > large rocks placed so the light shows through at the > right times? I was > reading an article about those to, very interesting > how the ancients knew so > much and we are high tech and just learning some of > what they did ? Fooey! I don't think they were so smart -- just glorified sundials. That reminds me, Dan, the sundial at Fort Vancouver is exactly 15 minutes slow. If you don't believe me, go see for yourself. If the timepiece looses 15 minutes a day, think of how many years it's off (smirk). For this and other great conversations, have Dan send you an invite to the JustCHAT message board. ===== With best wishes, Jim Schira __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/