No joke - just what on earth make's mailing a piece of paper out of the state that much more expensive. The Post Office still only charges 34 cents. And the cost of copy paper is lest than a penny. Ink cartriges last thousands of copies and are only about 40 bucks each. Boy I need a job at this Oregon office. Labor for supplying out of state copies is a real good deal, if you are a crook. You can rip them "out of stater's" off and they are too far away to do anything about it. Hummmmmmmmm. Jo >From: Chris Havnar <jchavnar@sbcglobal.net> >Reply-To: OREGON-L@rootsweb.com >To: OREGON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [OREGON] Out of State Fees >Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 10:38:02 -0700 > >I have written Layne for clarification on costs - but based on the time I >wrote to her (Friday afternoon) I don't expect a reply until sometime >Monday at the earliest - when I get the clarification - I will share. > >This lack of clarity 75 cents versus 10 dollars and the possibility that a >death certificate could go to $10 - is why out of state researchers are >gasping. > >Having said that, please excuse my absence for the balance of the weekend, >while I go through my files and make my list of all the Oregon death >certificates I've been meaning to get someday, and start requesting them. > >Best of luck to all in your searches, >Chris > >At 11:02 AM 5/18/2002 -0600, W. David Samuelsen wrote: > >I must have overlooked this particular item. That amounts to a hike > >of 4000% from 25 cents for a death certificate for out of state > > > >David > > > >Chris Havnar wrote: > >> > >> Sorry I erred - figure I should have used was $10 and that figure comes > >> from this paragraph .... > >> > >> 2) Basic records request - $5 in-state; $10 out-of-state. This includes > >> copying charges, postage and supplies. It applies to one-page >documents. A > >> Basic Records Request must provide an exact citation to a record (e.g., >a > >> citation from the death index, a record listed in the on-line index) in >the > >> custody of the Archives Division. > >> > >> That is the paragraph that has me spinning as an out of state >researcher. > >> > >> Chris > >> ~~~~~~~ > >> > >> David, > >> > >> I'd read and re-read the fee schedule and that wasn't real clear - I've > >> already written for clarification. > >> > >> If a copy of a death certificate goes from the current 25 cents plus > >> postage to 75 cents plus postage - I have little concerns - I can find >that > >> in the budget. > >> > >> BUT it read as if: it was going to $20 for out of state - and that gave >me > >> pause. > >> > >> Chris > >> > >> At 09:10 PM 5/17/2002 -0600, W. David Samuelsen wrote: > >> >Oregon's fees are still absolute BARGAIN compared to other states. > >> > > >> >Oregon's 75 cents by mail for a copy of death certificate? extreme > >> >BARGAIN considering other states want at least 7 dollars and upwards > >> >for a copy. > >> > > >> > > >> >W. David Samuelsen > > >==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the OREGON LIST >To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the Oregon-L >web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html >Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

Around Sat,May 18 2002, at 10:45, joneils@msn.com, wrote: > > No joke - just what on earth make's mailing a piece of paper out of the > state that much more expensive. The Post Office still only charges 34 > cents. And the cost of copy paper is lest than a penny. Ink cartriges last > thousands of copies and are only about 40 bucks each. Boy I need a job at > this Oregon office. Labor for supplying out of state copies is a real good > deal, if you are a crook. You can rip them "out of stater's" off and they > are too far away to do anything about it. Hummmmmmmmm. > > Jo Part of my Taxes that I pay to the state go for the archives, why shouldn't I get a discount from what out of staters pay? Roger

I don't think any one is being a crook. I do think they were being low cost in the past. I do know how much work they do to get us boxes to look into and do look ups for people who cant get there. , also the archives is not that big and there are not very many people there and it is time consuming on them to do hours of look ups , they get wages like every one else with no means of profits ,I think cost could be a little high, or the out of state research might be questioned, but this will help cover costs they cant meet , but to be called crooks it way out in left field. I have got many of these for people and I paid the 25 cents and I paid the postage and I never ask on cent , its about 25 miles round trip and once I told some one it would cost 25 dollars for 5 lookups because they wanted me to make a special trip, I am my wife's caregiver and at times I cant get away unless I pay some one to stay with her 25 dollars, I was called a crook and they refused to write to me any more, in general I look to helping people because I get help from others at times and we just return favors to different people and the circle goes on. As a mechanic would I install a 34 cent part in a machine if the labor took 1 hour as least and only charge 34 cents ? We need to take one step back and look at this whole picture and consider these people and how the archives are funded - Ps I am one who parks in free spots on the block and walks just a little rather than fill a parking meter , so I am no different than other people who like to save a buck, and I think parking meters should be cheaper <G> But crooks? Nah! Dan l;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: <joneils@msn.com> To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [OREGON] Out of State Fees > > No joke - just what on earth make's mailing a piece of paper out of the > state that much more expensive. The Post Office still only charges 34 > cents. And the cost of copy paper is lest than a penny. Ink cartriges last > thousands of copies and are only about 40 bucks each. Boy I need a job at > this Oregon office. Labor for supplying out of state copies is a real good > deal, if you are a crook. You can rip them "out of stater's" off and they > are too far away to do anything about it. Hummmmmmmmm. > > Jo >