The interesting thing about October 11th, 1582, is that it never happened. In 1582, when Pope Gregory XIII reworked the calendar, Thursday October 4th, 1582 was followed by Friday, October 15th, 1582. Not only that, but the New Year was moved from March 25th to January 1st. Most countries, including the U.S. were using the Julian calendar. Not for another 200 years, would Gregory's calendar be in general usage in the U.S. For that reason, be apprised that anytime you see a date such as 1684/85, the person was born in 1684 under the Julian Calendar, but 1685 under our new Calendar. Plus, if born under the Julian Calendar, days need to be subtracted since days were lost when converting to the Gregorian. Back in the 1700's, many people didn't put birth dates on tombstones. One reason they didn't is because no one knew what calendar to use. Tombstone inscriptions were put with the deceased's death date, and having lived so many years, months and days. That is fortunate for us, for we can subtract those things, and arrive at the TRUE DATE OF BIRTH, which probably isn't the same date as registered in the family Bibles or church records. ===== With best wishes, Jim Schira __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/

I would like info on all BOWNEs in Oregon I have a 5000 Bowne database worldwide and who they are married to I would like info on all years birth marriage death name of spouse I will help with the Seattle area thanks Audrey Bowne Seattle gregbowne@earthlink.net

Jan 3 and 4 < http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/multnoma/schools/1947rooseveltstaff.txt > http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/baker-fc.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/burnett-g.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/davenport-hw.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/eckerson-tje.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/eells-mf.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/george-mc.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/grabenhorst-wh.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/gray-ma.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/hayter-tj.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/ingalls-ce.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/kellogg-j.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/kellogg-o.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/lafontaine-gf.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/leasure-jc.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/lee-jd.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/pittock-hl.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/pope-c.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/pope-g.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/pope-s.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/pope-wh.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/scott-hw.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/simpson-sl.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/stewart-ch.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/sullivan-li.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/walker-mr.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/bios/yeon-jb.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/morrow/wills/cecil-w.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/morrow/wills/cradick-wh.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/morrow/wills/elder-jn.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/morrow/wills/lalande-s.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/morrow/wills/matlock-el.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/morrow/wills/sawyer-m.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/or/morrow/wills/sloan-eg.txt

I am looking for any information on Theresa Josephine Smith (married name Dougherty). She was born Sept. 8, 1885 in South Dakota She may have married in 1909. She died Feb. 19, 1975 in Multnomah County, Oregon. I would like to get a copy of the obituary if at all possible. What I am trying to find is information on her family before her marriage. I have a copy of a photo taken by Thwaites Photo in Portland with a handwritten note on the back M. Schmitt (Smith), 410 Wash St., Portland. I believe the children in this family were: Theresa Josephine, Maria (Mollie) Gertrude, Sadie, and Frank Parents may have been John Henry and Maria (Mary).. I have been unable to locate any information in the census? Does anyone have any suggestions? I really would appreciate any help I can get. Thanks. Edel

Morrow Co has site that may have some info. Most of cems available on line <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ormorrow/index.html">Morrow County US GenWeb Page</A> Plus there is a list of deaths for somewhere near that period. Has a nice surname search feature. Phil, once fro Morrow Co

List, I just recently learned that my GG Grandfather purchased land in Ione in 1906 and upon his arrival took ill and died. Is there anyone on the list that can help me find a death certificate and direct me in where to begin looking for his grave? Thanks Wanda

Write here http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "evelyn b cooper" <ebcooper@juno.com> To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [OREGON] 1920 census index > Hi Priscilla, > > I sent in a request a couple months ago and haven't received anything. > Should I resend it. > > Evelyn > > On Sat, 6 Oct 2001 16:20:41 EDT Priscil706@aol.com writes: > > In a message dated 10/6/2001 2:45:36 PM Central Daylight Time, > > schirafam@yahoo.com writes: > > > > > > > . > > > > > > The Genealogical Forum of Oregon has the 1920 > > > Oregon Census index. They made it themselves. > > > Contact them at info@gfo.org > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > Priscilla > > > > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the > > Oregon-L > > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > > #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the Oregon-L > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

At 04:10 PM 1/1/02 -0800, you wrote: I have received two replies to my question about where Wilderville was. Thanks to both, Karla

A very kind soul on our list rang the Mausoleum and not only found out about my Ruth Wright but also about her husband which was wonderful. Thank you. Gloria

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In the past several months, I have added several more wagon train lists to my Overland Trail web section. They are all accessed through: http://www.netcom.com/~symbios/geneal.html Scroll down the page and you'll find the Overland Trail section. Sandy Wilbur ------ Pre-owned History, Genealogy and Natural History Books: http://www.netcom.com/~symbios/genbooks.html Was your family on the Oregon Trail? Maybe they were on "The McCully Train": http://www.netcom.com/~symbios/wagntrn.html

Surnames: Moore, Payne, Blair Robert Vincent Moore, 86, a resident of The Dalles, died Friday, December 28, 2001 at the Oregon Veterans Home (The Dalles). He was born July 20, 1915 in Portland to Robert Elson and Jessie Almeda (Payne) Moore and grew up in Fossil (Oregon). He joined the U.S. Army in October 1941 and served with the 79th Fighter group of the 83rd Fighter Squadron in the air offensive in Europe. He saw action at Normandy; throughout northern France, in the Ardennes and the Rhineland in central Europe. Following his discharge in 1945 he returned to Oregon and began working as a heavy equipment operator for Local 701 of the International Brotherhood of Operating Engineers and continued as a member of that local for over 50 years. He worked on many of the hydroelectric projects along the Columbia River in addition to many other highway and building projects. He retired as a heavy equipment mechanic. He married Mildred J. Blair in Stevenson, Washington on December 4, 1969; she preceded him in death in 1995. During their married life they both enjoyed camping, fishing and hunting. He was a long-time member of the National Rifle Association, and an active supporter of the local Salvation Army post, the Mid-Columbia Senior Center, the American Red Cross, and several other charities. In addition to his wife and his parents, he was preceded by a sister, Violet. In accordance with his wishes no services will be held. Disposition was by cremation. Arrangements were by Columbia Cremation & Burial. The Dalles Chronicle January 2, 2002 Written permission to reprint obituary given by The Dalles Chronicle, The Dalles, Oregon. Copied and submitted by Earline Wasser

At 07:22 AM 1/2/2002, Marianne S. Monagle wrote: > I have ancestors who lived in Grant's pass, OR c. 1878-1885 time should I >check Jackson co records or should I also check Josephine Co records? Also I >do not see that many records of either county are at the OR state archives. >Does anyone have much experience dealing with this county; such as is it >worth trying write to request the records, or do I need to hire a researcher >or volunteer who can do in and look them up for me? >I believe at this time Grant's s Pass was considered Jackson Co. Thank you! Josephine County was created in 1856. Grants Pass was right on the border between Jackson and Josephine County until 1885, when Josephine County gained area from Jackson County and Grants Pass ended up clearly in Josephine County. I think it is definitely worthwhile checking records in both counties during your time frame, unless someone with research experience can answer the question definitively. Sarajane Storm mailto:sarajstorm@home.com

Hi Priscilla, I sent in a request a couple months ago and haven't received anything. Should I resend it. Evelyn On Sat, 6 Oct 2001 16:20:41 EDT Priscil706@aol.com writes: > In a message dated 10/6/2001 2:45:36 PM Central Daylight Time, > schirafam@yahoo.com writes: > > > > . > > > > The Genealogical Forum of Oregon has the 1920 > > Oregon Census index. They made it themselves. > > Contact them at info@gfo.org > > > > > > Thank you very much. > > Priscilla > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the > Oregon-L > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Hi, I grew up in GP and my husband is from Central Point. We live on the east side (Bend) now, but we go over to Medford and Grants Pass at least once a month, and I would be happy to help with anything you need looked up while I am there. :) Marcy

Hi Trail Fans Happy New Year! This year I'm hoping to feature just sites that are specific to a certain trail or portion of a trail in the West, starting with "Travel The Bozeman Trail." http://www.bozemantrail.org/index.htm The Bozeman Trail is unique among trails in the American West, cutting through the last and best hunting grounds of the Northern Plains Indians, and led to military occupation of the region, ultimately resulting in the Indian wars on the Northern Plains. This excellent website explores the history of the Bozeman Trail which overlaid ancient Paleo-Indian and buffalo routes. It was a microcosm of the history of the West, with about every kind of people who lived in, traveled through, or settled the West represented. Included are diary accounts, military reports, and first hand thoughts about the land and place surrounding the trail, from a Crow Scout for Custer to fieldnotes from a modern day exploratory expedition. This site also serves as a guide for the modern traveler of the trail, with museums listed (from south to north) along the trail, a Bozeman Trail Corridor map, events occurring along the trail in 2002, and a gallery of photos, both historic and modern. I hope that you'll all take the opportunity to explore this website. Lots of good up-to-date information, a nicely designed site which is easy to get around. Don't forget to visit previous Spotlights at: http://www.over-land.com/spotlite.html and also I welcome e-mail suggesting a future Spotlight. Liz

Hello, If no one has posted this yet.... Riverview Abby Mausoleum/ Cremator./ Funeral Home Pic1 from1916 0319 SW Taylors Ferry Rd, Portland, OR 97219 503-244-7577 my page with Portland, OR area cemetery and funeral home info & pics is at: <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/gninnah/cemetery.html">Portland,OR - Vancouver,WA Cemeteries & Photos</A> the post below was missing one "N" in the URL :-) it should be: http://members.aol.com/GNINNAH/cemetery.html thanks Pat >>>>>>>>>>>> >>From: Pete Wasser <petew@netcnct.net> >>I would not assume anything in genealogy research. I don't know anything >>about Riverview Abbey Mausoleum (same concept as yours in Australia) but I >>went in on the Google search engine and found numerous listings where the >>mausoleum is mentioned in newspapers. I found on >>http://members.aol.com/ginnah/cemetery.html a notice of a person who will >>do look ups for money. Hope this helps. >gasjess@bigpond.com wrote: > Hi > Does anyone know anything about Riverview Abbey Mausoleum > in Portland Oregon. > I believe a mausoleum is a vault which holds family members, > (or thats what it is in Aust), is this the case in US if so would > it be feasible to believe the whole family could be in one spot. > Gloria > Australia

Hello, Just finished indexing another Oregon yearbook, and thought I would pass along an updated listing of the books I've indexed so far :-) You can reach the files from the bottom of my page at: <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/gninnah/cemetery.html">Portland,OR - Vancouver,WA Cemeteries & Photos</A> most of the files have already been uploaded to USgenweb, and can be accessed thru their archives page... but the new ones are still in the process of being uploaded, and are temporarily on my server... Happy Hunting! Pat >>>>>>>>>>>>files as of 01/02/2002<<<<<<<<<<< OREGON STATE FILES Clackamas County: 1940 Milwaukie Union HS (faculty) Index 1940 Milwaukie Union HS (student) Index Multnomah County: 1931 Ulysses S. Grant High School 1924 Park Rose High School 1927 Park Rose High School 1928 Park Rose High School 1926 Roosevelt High School 1934 Roosevelt High School * 1947 Roosevelt HS (faculty) Index (done but being uploaded) * 1947 Roosevelt HS (student) Index (306 Seniors done, 1,060 more to add) 1928 Jefferson High School 1936 Franklin High School 1941 Delphic Frat Yearbook (Portland) Yamhill County: 1911-1915 Adelphic Frat (McMinnville College) >>>>>>>>>> WASHINGTON STATE FILES: Clark County, WA: 1884 Land Plot Index 1922 Camas High School (Camas) 1922 Columbia Adventist Academy (Battleground) 1958 Clark College (Vancouver) 1959 Clark College (Vancouver) Livingston Cemetery Yakima County, WA: 1926 Wapato High School Spokane County: 1925 State Normal School (Cheney) 1927-1928 First Swedish Methodist Episcopal Church (Spokane) Snohomish County: 1913 Everett High School

Dear listers, I have ancestors who lived in Grant's pass, OR c. 1878-1885 time should I check Jackson co records or should I also check Josephine Co records? Also I do not see that many records of either county are at the OR state archives. Does anyone have much experience dealing with this county; such as is it worth trying write to request the records, or do I need to hire a researcher or volunteer who can do in and look them up for me? I believe at this time Grant's s Pass was considered Jackson Co. Thank you! Marianne S. Monagle monagle@cncdsl.com

Hi Marianne, I live in Grants Pass, OR and a member of the local Genealogy Society. If you could give me more information on your ancestors maybe I can help. Gary V. Ingram Merlin, OR http://home.internetcds.com/~kb7fci/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Marianne <monagle@cncdsl.com> To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 6:22 AM Subject: [OREGON] Josephine/Jackson Co.? regarding Grants Pass OR Dear listers, I have ancestors who lived in Grant's pass, OR c. 1878-1885 time should I check Jackson co records or should I also check Josephine Co records? Also I do not see that many records of either county are at the OR state archives. Does anyone have much experience dealing with this county; such as is it worth trying write to request the records, or do I need to hire a researcher or volunteer who can do in and look them up for me? I believe at this time Grant's s Pass was considered Jackson Co. Thank you! Marianne S. Monagle monagle@cncdsl.com ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== Welcome to the OREGON LIST To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the Oregon-L web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237