My gggrandmother died in the Oregon State Hospital......then called Oregon State Asylum....Salem, Oregon. Also, one of her sons died there. In 1900....both of them. I visited the Oregon Archives and they brought me six books! There were three book for Women and three for men. Book for Admittance, one for records of their conditions, and one for their death. It was able to transcribe all the information on them. Very interesting. You cannot photocopy.....the books are very old, fragile, as well as too big! I believe (if I remember right) I found the page numbers from the Archives Webpage listings. Karol Gale

Surnames: McFadden, Mace Davis Wilson McFadden, 48, a resident of Arlington (Oregon), died at a care facility in The Dalles, on Wednesday, April 3, 2002. He was born November 20, 1953, in Marlinton, West Virginia, the only child of Eric Douglas and Margaret Wilson (Mace) McFadden. He moved to Gales Creek (Oregon) near Forest Grove (Oregon) in 1957. He grew up and continued to live and work as a carpenter, building homes in the Forest Grove area. In January of this year, he moved to Arlington for health reasons. He is survived by friends including John C. Millett of Arlington. At his request, no services will be held. Private cremation was held at The Dalles Win-quatt Crematory with Smith Callaway Chapel in care of arrangements. The Dalles Chronicle April 8, 2002 Written permission to reprint obituary given by The Dalles Chronicle, The Dalles, Oregon. Copied and submitted by Earline Wasser 80th Annual Wasco County Pioneer Association Reunion May 4, 2002, The Dalles, Oregon http://w3.gorge.net/dzopf/wcpa.htm

Thats what I though, that the one I was thinking, was out that way, but I wasn't sure that where he was talking about ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Fraley" <Swimref@cmc.net> To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [OREGON] MATNEY>related question>Need HELP PLEASE > For what it's worth, there is a Cooper Hollow in Ohio, in Jackson > County. > > Kevin Fraley > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "W David Samuelsen" <dsam@sampubco.com> > To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:20 AM > Subject: Re: [OREGON] MATNEY>related question>Need HELP PLEASE > > > > GNIS didn't show Copper Hollow or Hallow for that matter for Oregon > > and Washington. > > > > I even tried just "Copper" and pulled up a lot but not "Hollow" or > > "Hallow" > > > > W. David Samuelsen > > > > Marsha wrote: > > > > > > Hey Dan > > > Where was Cooper Hallow........ > > > pmml@navicom.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dan M" <wb@wvi.com> > > > To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:37 AM > > > Subject: Re: [OREGON] MATNEY>related question>Need HELP PLEASE > > > > > > > Once on a time <G> > > > > My Great grand Mo and FA got a divorice , abt 1873 in > oregon, I have > > > > those papers, about the same time he died intestate in CA > > > > There are No mentions of where he is buried any place , not > even a > > > death > > > > cert that I can find, but I have the court papers that mention > all the > > > > family that where at the hearing, no mention of cause of death > or burial > > > > locations are mentioned . I also was not able to find great > grand mothers > > > > who remarried 6 years later , ok > > > > So here is my question toall you cemeteray hoppers and > cemetary > > > project > > > > people out there. > > > > since I do not have a clue on this , and no dates on her, and an > ( abt) > > > date > > > > on him. > > > > Could some one possibly keep a look out for these names , > any where > > > you > > > > go ? Or read ? > > > > I know this is a strange question and a shot it the dark , but > by dang I > > > > have done every thing you all would have done and came up empty > . > > > > Its a master brick wall for me and my main family Historian > who has > > > every > > > > thing but this. > > > > <sigh> I was not going to bother every one, but if anyone can > help, it is > > > > here where I think it will happen > > > > Here are the names > > > > Walter J Matney - died CA some of thecase was moved to Oregom, > said Marion > > > > Co, I cant find it? Or where he died, or was buried . > > > > > > > > Julia A Matney died unknown , maried Hiram C Rowe and became Mrs > Rowe , > > > but > > > > some one thought she may have been married as Matney , her > maiden name was > > > > Julia Cooper, from Cooper Hollow Oregon. > > > > > > > > If there are any tombstones with > > > > Walter J Matney > > > > Broadwater Mateny > > > > Julia ( Cooper)(Matney) (Rowe) > > > > Hiram C Rowe > > > > > > > > Any place any of you tombstone authorities go or read, please > help me, I > > > am > > > > at total loss on these people. > > > > > > > > The reast of the names are on my website under Matney > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > see http://wvi.com/~wb > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > > > > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > > > > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the > Oregon-L > > > > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > > > > Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > > > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > > > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the > Oregon-L > > > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > > > Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the > Oregon-L > > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > > Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the Oregon-L > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Dan are you looking for where they are burried? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan M1" <wb@wvi.com> To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [OREGON] MATNEY>related question>Need HELP PLEASE > Well since now we all know where it is how many are going <G>kidding > I have been there a few times to visit my G parents DLC , were a fellow > genealogist now lives. > I can give directions . > Cooper and Lovelady pioneers lived on that road and a few more. > It was the home of Thomas Lovelady also , who were parents of my great > grand dads first wife Martha Lovelady <Matney> Then to Julia Cooper <Matney> > both from same area. > > Dan > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the Oregon-L > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Sorry .......................... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob and Barbara Canessa" <canessab@pacifier.com> To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [OREGON] MATNEY>related question>Need HELP PLEASE > Cooper Hollow is a valley in Polk County OR. Latitude 44.52 N; Longitude > 123.18W. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "W David Samuelsen" <dsam@sampubco.com> > To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:20 AM > Subject: Re: [OREGON] MATNEY>related question>Need HELP PLEASE > > > > GNIS didn't show Copper Hollow or Hallow for that matter for Oregon > > and Washington. > > > > I even tried just "Copper" and pulled up a lot but not "Hollow" or > > "Hallow" > > > > W. David Samuelsen > > > > Marsha wrote: > > > > > > Hey Dan > > > Where was Cooper Hallow........ > > > pmml@navicom.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dan M" <wb@wvi.com> > > > To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:37 AM > > > Subject: Re: [OREGON] MATNEY>related question>Need HELP PLEASE > > > > > > > Once on a time <G> > > > > My Great grand Mo and FA got a divorice , abt 1873 in oregon, I > have > > > > those papers, about the same time he died intestate in CA > > > > There are No mentions of where he is buried any place , not even a > > > death > > > > cert that I can find, but I have the court papers that mention all the > > > > family that where at the hearing, no mention of cause of death or > burial > > > > locations are mentioned . I also was not able to find great grand > mothers > > > > who remarried 6 years later , ok > > > > So here is my question toall you cemeteray hoppers and cemetary > > > project > > > > people out there. > > > > since I do not have a clue on this , and no dates on her, and an ( > abt) > > > date > > > > on him. > > > > Could some one possibly keep a look out for these names , any > where > > > you > > > > go ? Or read ? > > > > I know this is a strange question and a shot it the dark , but by dang > I > > > > have done every thing you all would have done and came up empty . > > > > Its a master brick wall for me and my main family Historian who has > > > every > > > > thing but this. > > > > <sigh> I was not going to bother every one, but if anyone can help, it > is > > > > here where I think it will happen > > > > Here are the names > > > > Walter J Matney - died CA some of thecase was moved to Oregom, said > Marion > > > > Co, I cant find it? Or where he died, or was buried . > > > > > > > > Julia A Matney died unknown , maried Hiram C Rowe and became Mrs Rowe > , > > > but > > > > some one thought she may have been married as Matney , her maiden name > was > > > > Julia Cooper, from Cooper Hollow Oregon. > > > > > > > > If there are any tombstones with > > > > Walter J Matney > > > > Broadwater Mateny > > > > Julia ( Cooper)(Matney) (Rowe) > > > > Hiram C Rowe > > > > > > > > Any place any of you tombstone authorities go or read, please help me, > I > > > am > > > > at total loss on these people. > > > > > > > > The reast of the names are on my website under Matney > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > see http://wvi.com/~wb > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > > > > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > > > > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the > Oregon-L > > > > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > > > > Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > > > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > > > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the Oregon-L > > > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > > > Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the Oregon-L > > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > > Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the Oregon-L > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

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Hello Lists, Following is an e-mail conversation between Barbara McDonald Lewis and Cliff Thompson on the Richardsons of Linn County Oregon. Barbara is a direct descendant of John Griffin and Orpha Thompson Richardson. Cliff and I are descendants of Orpha’s brothers, Enoch (who moved to Linn County several years after Orpha and her family) and Elijah Thompson (who stayed in IL). 3/12/02 11:13 PM Hello Cliff -- Came across your interest in Richardsons of Linn Co., Oregon. I'll give you some of what I have. You may already have it, and more. I can't go into it in depth because it would end up a thesis. Here goes in condensed form: John G Richardson 10/1798-4/4/1873 m. Orpha Thompson 1799-1863. Children: Milton Emperson, Thomas Jefferson, William Winston', George Washington, Lewis Clark, Elijah Thompson, Obediah Waddle ("Wad" was Linn Co. Sheriff from 1864-1866), John Wesley, Andrew Jackson, Enoch Numbers, James Asher, Rebecca Jane. Obediah m. M. Elizabeth Cusick and had children Emma (my ggrandmother), Ida, Edward. Obediah had by No. 2 wife (a Mrs. Stone) Holly. John Wesley m. Mary Ann Conkrite and children were Melvina, Almira, Melissa, Wallace, Wilson and Truman. In 1851 John G. Richardson and Orpha Thompson Richardson came with their family of ten living children from Adams County, Illinois, and in 1852 settled on a Donation Land Claim in a small canyon between Rogers Mountain and Franklin Butte, about six miles southeast of where the town of Scio is now located. Shortly thereafter, son John Wesley took up a neighboring 160 acre Donation Land Claim. In 1879, sons William Winston, James Asher, Thomas Jefferson, and George Washington owned land in the adjacent area. It was logical, therefore, that the name "Richardson's Gap" would be applied to the area; so it remains to this day, although there are no longer any Richardsons living there. The Walter Clute Miller family moved right across the road from the Richardson home in 1864. Ultimately two of the Miller sons married daughters of Obediah Waddle Richardson, who were raised by Mary Ann and John W. Richardson. Emma Richardson married Walter Clute Miller's son Henry Clarence Miller and from there my line descends to Cressie Leo Miller m. William Franklin McDonald, Roy Merle McDonald and then I come upon the scene. I have quite a bit more narrative re these people. If you can get hold of a copy of "The Millers of Richardson Gap, Scio, Oregon" published in 1979 by Owen G. Miller, you will be fortunate indeed. It is hard to come by as nobody in the Miller family will let one out of his/her hands. But maybe Powell's Books in Portland has a copy. Anyway, good luck. Barbara McDonald Lewis 3/19/02 9:21 AM Hi Barbara, I got your E-mail and went over it. My John Griffin Richardson was b. 28 Jan. 1797 and d.16 May 1873. Orpha was b. 1802 and a son named Milton Empson was named after a brother of Orpha's. The Waddell name was after the surname of the husband of Orpha's sister Milly (nickname for Orpha's mother Emily). The wife of Obediah was Martha Elizabeth Cisick and I have another wife whose maiden name was Mrs. Tone (could have been Stone???). I did not have any children for that marriage and suppose that Holly was a child of Obediah & Mrs. Tone/Stone? Your G-Grandmother "Emma" had the given name of Emily which presumably came from the name Emily above. I have Emily married to Henry Clarence Miller. I have a daughter of this couple, Cressie Leo Miller, married to William Franklin McDonald on 18 sept. 1907. I have seven children of their marriage...of these, four are married (Roy, Byron, Frank, and Harold). I have the names of the four spouses, but no dates beyond the birth dates of the 7 children. I have Roy Merling McDonald married to Hele Beal. Again, no dates other than Roy's bd. I would appreciate anything that you can contribute in the way of names and dates on your direct line, including siblings. Where I seem to have made a point of mentioning names or dates above, we may differ such as my "Merling" vs your "Merle". If you feel strongly please advise me of the conflict. I live on an island in the Chesapeake Bay near Annapolis, MD and would not be likely to get a book re Richardson's Gap. What I have gotten comes from people on the Internet and/or from my direct line of Thompson's. Orpha Thompson, wife of John G. Richardson, was the daughter of my GGG-Grandfather, William Thompson. Regards, Cliff 3/20/02 9:35 PM Hello Cliff: Let's see if I can help you fill in a gap or two. The name "Cisick" is "Cusick" in the Richardson's Gap book and also on records in the Oregon Historical Society in Portland. They were apparently a quite well known family. Obediah' second wife a Mrs. Stone, brought two sons to the marriage and had a child by Obediah named "Holly". In my immediate family Cressie Leo Miller (daughter of Henry Clarence Miller and Emma Richardson) (b. 7-12-1886 d. 6-18-1961) m. William Franklin McDonald (b. 10-21-1884 d. 10-16-1961) on 9-18-1907. They had sons Roy Merle McDonald (and yes, it is MERLE) (b. 6-27-1908 d. 7-31-1982 ) m.1926 Helen Boutelle Beal (b. 4-2-1909 d. Feb. 1999). One child, Barbara Lee McDonald (b.1-30-1927) m. James Ford Lewis (b.10-14-1914 d.12-28-1998). Their children are James Ford Lewis, Jr. (b. 7-15-46) m. Linda Wheeler; Bronwen Lee Lewis (b.12-20-51) m. Gerald Gaddeberg; Mary Boutelle Lewis (b-10-24-53) m. David Samuel Hassin; and Robert Bradford Lewis (b. 5-26-55). Cressie and Frank had also sons Byron Laird (10-16-11 D.?)m. Verla Ingraham on 2-29-37 and they had many children. Frank Miller (b.12-8-1913 d. 6-16-1939) m. Helen Putnam and there is son. Harold Dean McDonald (b 4-5-1915 d. in 1944 a prisoner of the Japanese after the Bataan Death March) m. Grace Murdersbough 7-7-1936. Henry Keith McDonald( b. 8-24-1917 d.199?) m. Pearl?. Their last son is Clarence McDonald (b.12-12-1923) m. Aileen?. Clarence is still living and is in Redmond, Oregon. He knows much more about these folks than I. There is one son Harold McDonald and a daughter Marsha McDonald. Cressie and Frank had one daughter, Winona May (b. 7-8-1919 d. 9-26-1930 ) who died from complications following surgery. Enough for this time. barbaralewis9262@msn.com. 3/21/02 7:59 PM Hi Barbara, Thank you for the added info. There is one point that I would like to have clarified. When you say that Emma and Ida went to live with John Wesley Richardson when their father, Obediah, re-married...can you pin that date down? If that occurred when Obediah married for the 3rd time, the girls would have been rather old. Was it when Obediah married the 2nd time? Another point that has had me wondering, I do not seem to be able to put a name on the wagon train that brought the Richardson's to Scio, OR in 1851. Do you know of the name or the name of the leader of the wagon train? BTW, if I can supply any info on the Thompson line for you, I would be glad to do that. I have Orpha (Thompson) Richardson's parents and siblings back to North Carolina and South Carolina as well as the grand-parents of Orpha who died in SC. Sincerely, Cliff Thompson 3/22/02 3:28 pm OK Cliff. I'll try to answer your queries. Emma Richardson and her sister Ida married Miller boys who lived across the road from John Wesley Richardson and his family. After their mother died giving birth to Edward about 1869, (Edward died shortly after) the father, Obediah (after a few years) married Mrs. Stone, a widow with two sons and moved to a farm in Wasco County. (That was the time the girls were left behind in Richardson's Gap, or maybe even earlier after their mother died.) Their son Holly was born at the farm in Wasco Co. I have no dates for him. After the second wife's death Obediah was reputed to have married once or twice more -- no issue. He died in 1910. Holly inherited the farm and raised a family. There may have been some contact with the family left behind in Scio. Judging by the fact that we have the picture of Holly, it may well have been so. Getting to Oregon: John Wesley crossed the plains in 1851 with his family driving an ox team. The trip took six months. Obediah had left Illinois for the West ahead of the rest of the family, starting for California when he was 18 years of age in 1849. About 1858 he arrived in Oregon. Was Linn County sheriff from 1864-66. Emma was born in their quarters at the jail. Ida was born 3-9-1867. Then Edward who died as a baby. Their mother died shortly after his birth. By 1879 sons William Winston, James Asher, Thomas Jefferson and George Washington had come out and owned land adjacent to property owned by the earlier arrivals. The area is known as "Richardson's Gap" to this day. I don't know which wagon trains they arrived on. I know the Miller train only. If you write in "Oregon History'' you will probably find the Oregon Historical Society and an e-mail address. Give them the name of your pioneer families and see if they have anything on the wagon train designations. My grandmother, Cressie Leo Miller. Her father was Henry Clarence Miller and mother was Emma Richardson. Henry C. and Emma had a large family: Clarence M. - Cressie Leo - Ivan Herschel - Walter Obediah - John Earl - Idella Mae - Viola Alice - Lela Fay. I knew some of them as a child, but remember for sure Aunt Idella and Lela Fay, as well as my grandmother, Cressie Leo. I may have known others but that was a long time ago and my parents moved to California during the depression, (Oregon was not and never really has been an economic powerhouse) so my Dad could find work. His uncle Clarence M. for a time owned a lumbering enterprise and sawmill and could employ his relatives. But that too went bust. I was born in their house in Marcola, Oregon. I was taken to a few reunions in Scio and have attended three of them as an adult but it is hard to remember all those folks. I was usually in Oregon in the summer either in Redmond where my grandparents Miller /McDonald lived following WW1, on in La Pine on the ranch of my mother's parents. As I mentioned before, my Uncle Clarence McDonald lives in Redmond, Oregon and knows more than I do about the family since he is older than I. Good luck on your search. Barbara McDonald Lewis 3/24/02 1:19 PM Hi Barbara, I have enjoyed chatting with you re the Oregon relatives. I have a 3rd cousin who I have forwarded your info to. She descends from a brother of Orpha (Thompson) Richardson named Enoch Thompson. Her line comes from a daughter of Enoch named Martha Alice Thompson who married Theodore Warner Boone. This cousin would like your permission to put your Emails on the Oregon-L message board and on an Internet Page "Oregon Trails. I will forward your reply. Sincerely, Cliff Thompson cfthomp@Friend.ly.Net BARBARA LEWIS wrote: Yes, and you may send my e-mail address. barbaralewis9262@msn.com

Well since now we all know where it is how many are going <G>kidding I have been there a few times to visit my G parents DLC , were a fellow genealogist now lives. I can give directions . Cooper and Lovelady pioneers lived on that road and a few more. It was the home of Thomas Lovelady also , who were parents of my great grand dads first wife Martha Lovelady <Matney> Then to Julia Cooper <Matney> both from same area. Dan

Cooper Hollow is a valley in Polk County OR. Latitude 44.52 N; Longitude 123.18W. ----- Original Message ----- From: "W David Samuelsen" <dsam@sampubco.com> To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [OREGON] MATNEY>related question>Need HELP PLEASE > GNIS didn't show Copper Hollow or Hallow for that matter for Oregon > and Washington. > > I even tried just "Copper" and pulled up a lot but not "Hollow" or > "Hallow" > > W. David Samuelsen > > Marsha wrote: > > > > Hey Dan > > Where was Cooper Hallow........ > > pmml@navicom.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dan M" <wb@wvi.com> > > To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:37 AM > > Subject: Re: [OREGON] MATNEY>related question>Need HELP PLEASE > > > > > Once on a time <G> > > > My Great grand Mo and FA got a divorice , abt 1873 in oregon, I have > > > those papers, about the same time he died intestate in CA > > > There are No mentions of where he is buried any place , not even a > > death > > > cert that I can find, but I have the court papers that mention all the > > > family that where at the hearing, no mention of cause of death or burial > > > locations are mentioned . I also was not able to find great grand mothers > > > who remarried 6 years later , ok > > > So here is my question toall you cemeteray hoppers and cemetary > > project > > > people out there. > > > since I do not have a clue on this , and no dates on her, and an ( abt) > > date > > > on him. > > > Could some one possibly keep a look out for these names , any where > > you > > > go ? Or read ? > > > I know this is a strange question and a shot it the dark , but by dang I > > > have done every thing you all would have done and came up empty . > > > Its a master brick wall for me and my main family Historian who has > > every > > > thing but this. > > > <sigh> I was not going to bother every one, but if anyone can help, it is > > > here where I think it will happen > > > Here are the names > > > Walter J Matney - died CA some of thecase was moved to Oregom, said Marion > > > Co, I cant find it? Or where he died, or was buried . > > > > > > Julia A Matney died unknown , maried Hiram C Rowe and became Mrs Rowe , > > but > > > some one thought she may have been married as Matney , her maiden name was > > > Julia Cooper, from Cooper Hollow Oregon. > > > > > > If there are any tombstones with > > > Walter J Matney > > > Broadwater Mateny > > > Julia ( Cooper)(Matney) (Rowe) > > > Hiram C Rowe > > > > > > Any place any of you tombstone authorities go or read, please help me, I > > am > > > at total loss on these people. > > > > > > The reast of the names are on my website under Matney > > > > > > Dan > > > see http://wvi.com/~wb > > > > > > > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > > > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > > > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the Oregon-L > > > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > > > Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the Oregon-L > > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > > Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the Oregon-L > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Interesting, and as we know people carried names along and named places that they came from, it could slightly related as a place name. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Fraley" <Swimref@cmc.net> To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [OREGON] MATNEY>related question>Need HELP PLEASE > For what it's worth, there is a Cooper Hollow in Ohio, in Jackson > County. > > Kevin Fraley > ======= length removed *snip*

Monmoth Oregon Its a dirt road still. Also there is a Matney Rd near there named after my GGreat grand dad. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marsha" <pmml@navicom.com> To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 11:42 PM Subject: Re: [OREGON] MATNEY>related question>Need HELP PLEASE > Hey Dan > Where was Cooper Hallow........

For what it's worth, there is a Cooper Hollow in Ohio, in Jackson County. Kevin Fraley ----- Original Message ----- From: "W David Samuelsen" <dsam@sampubco.com> To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [OREGON] MATNEY>related question>Need HELP PLEASE > GNIS didn't show Copper Hollow or Hallow for that matter for Oregon > and Washington. > > I even tried just "Copper" and pulled up a lot but not "Hollow" or > "Hallow" > > W. David Samuelsen > > Marsha wrote: > > > > Hey Dan > > Where was Cooper Hallow........ > > pmml@navicom.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dan M" <wb@wvi.com> > > To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:37 AM > > Subject: Re: [OREGON] MATNEY>related question>Need HELP PLEASE > > > > > Once on a time <G> > > > My Great grand Mo and FA got a divorice , abt 1873 in oregon, I have > > > those papers, about the same time he died intestate in CA > > > There are No mentions of where he is buried any place , not even a > > death > > > cert that I can find, but I have the court papers that mention all the > > > family that where at the hearing, no mention of cause of death or burial > > > locations are mentioned . I also was not able to find great grand mothers > > > who remarried 6 years later , ok > > > So here is my question toall you cemeteray hoppers and cemetary > > project > > > people out there. > > > since I do not have a clue on this , and no dates on her, and an ( abt) > > date > > > on him. > > > Could some one possibly keep a look out for these names , any where > > you > > > go ? Or read ? > > > I know this is a strange question and a shot it the dark , but by dang I > > > have done every thing you all would have done and came up empty . > > > Its a master brick wall for me and my main family Historian who has > > every > > > thing but this. > > > <sigh> I was not going to bother every one, but if anyone can help, it is > > > here where I think it will happen > > > Here are the names > > > Walter J Matney - died CA some of thecase was moved to Oregom, said Marion > > > Co, I cant find it? Or where he died, or was buried . > > > > > > Julia A Matney died unknown , maried Hiram C Rowe and became Mrs Rowe , > > but > > > some one thought she may have been married as Matney , her maiden name was > > > Julia Cooper, from Cooper Hollow Oregon. > > > > > > If there are any tombstones with > > > Walter J Matney > > > Broadwater Mateny > > > Julia ( Cooper)(Matney) (Rowe) > > > Hiram C Rowe > > > > > > Any place any of you tombstone authorities go or read, please help me, I > > am > > > at total loss on these people. > > > > > > The reast of the names are on my website under Matney > > > > > > Dan > > > see http://wvi.com/~wb > > > > > > > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > > > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > > > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the Oregon-L > > > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > > > Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the Oregon-L > > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > > Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the Oregon-L > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Counties in Oregon kept the marriage records before 1906. Knowing the county is needed to search for a marriage before 1906. Counties had been keeping the marriage records even before Oregon became a state. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Schira To: OREGON-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [OREGON] Seeking marriage date for GISH They're not in the marriage index for Oregon, which starts out in 1906. Assuming their marriage WAS in Oregon, only the church would have the record. Jim in Portland --- AweCA12962@aol.com wrote: > I'd appreciate having someone look up a marriage > date for John "Jack" GISH > (born as Johann Christian Fredrick GISCH 7/4/1879 in > Clark Co, WI). He > married Martha B. (maiden name unknown, born > 10/31/1881, birthplace unknown). > My best guess would be that they married about the > turn of the century. > They lived in the Portland area and had two sons, > Forrest and Arno. Thanks. > Carol AWE from Waukegan IL > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this > link to the Oregon-L > web site > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ===== With best wishes, Jim Schira __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ______________________________

GNIS didn't show Copper Hollow or Hallow for that matter for Oregon and Washington. I even tried just "Copper" and pulled up a lot but not "Hollow" or "Hallow" W. David Samuelsen Marsha wrote: > > Hey Dan > Where was Cooper Hallow........ > pmml@navicom.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan M" <wb@wvi.com> > To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:37 AM > Subject: Re: [OREGON] MATNEY>related question>Need HELP PLEASE > > > Once on a time <G> > > My Great grand Mo and FA got a divorice , abt 1873 in oregon, I have > > those papers, about the same time he died intestate in CA > > There are No mentions of where he is buried any place , not even a > death > > cert that I can find, but I have the court papers that mention all the > > family that where at the hearing, no mention of cause of death or burial > > locations are mentioned . I also was not able to find great grand mothers > > who remarried 6 years later , ok > > So here is my question toall you cemeteray hoppers and cemetary > project > > people out there. > > since I do not have a clue on this , and no dates on her, and an ( abt) > date > > on him. > > Could some one possibly keep a look out for these names , any where > you > > go ? Or read ? > > I know this is a strange question and a shot it the dark , but by dang I > > have done every thing you all would have done and came up empty . > > Its a master brick wall for me and my main family Historian who has > every > > thing but this. > > <sigh> I was not going to bother every one, but if anyone can help, it is > > here where I think it will happen > > Here are the names > > Walter J Matney - died CA some of thecase was moved to Oregom, said Marion > > Co, I cant find it? Or where he died, or was buried . > > > > Julia A Matney died unknown , maried Hiram C Rowe and became Mrs Rowe , > but > > some one thought she may have been married as Matney , her maiden name was > > Julia Cooper, from Cooper Hollow Oregon. > > > > If there are any tombstones with > > Walter J Matney > > Broadwater Mateny > > Julia ( Cooper)(Matney) (Rowe) > > Hiram C Rowe > > > > Any place any of you tombstone authorities go or read, please help me, I > am > > at total loss on these people. > > > > The reast of the names are on my website under Matney > > > > Dan > > see http://wvi.com/~wb > > > > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the Oregon-L > > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > > Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the Oregon-L > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hey Dan Where was Cooper Hallow........ pmml@navicom.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan M" <wb@wvi.com> To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [OREGON] MATNEY>related question>Need HELP PLEASE > Once on a time <G> > My Great grand Mo and FA got a divorice , abt 1873 in oregon, I have > those papers, about the same time he died intestate in CA > There are No mentions of where he is buried any place , not even a death > cert that I can find, but I have the court papers that mention all the > family that where at the hearing, no mention of cause of death or burial > locations are mentioned . I also was not able to find great grand mothers > who remarried 6 years later , ok > So here is my question toall you cemeteray hoppers and cemetary project > people out there. > since I do not have a clue on this , and no dates on her, and an ( abt) date > on him. > Could some one possibly keep a look out for these names , any where you > go ? Or read ? > I know this is a strange question and a shot it the dark , but by dang I > have done every thing you all would have done and came up empty . > Its a master brick wall for me and my main family Historian who has every > thing but this. > <sigh> I was not going to bother every one, but if anyone can help, it is > here where I think it will happen > Here are the names > Walter J Matney - died CA some of thecase was moved to Oregom, said Marion > Co, I cant find it? Or where he died, or was buried . > > Julia A Matney died unknown , maried Hiram C Rowe and became Mrs Rowe , but > some one thought she may have been married as Matney , her maiden name was > Julia Cooper, from Cooper Hollow Oregon. > > If there are any tombstones with > Walter J Matney > Broadwater Mateny > Julia ( Cooper)(Matney) (Rowe) > Hiram C Rowe > > Any place any of you tombstone authorities go or read, please help me, I am > at total loss on these people. > > The reast of the names are on my website under Matney > > Dan > see http://wvi.com/~wb > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the Oregon-L > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I had an ancester who did there, I called them up they looked up the records............. ----- Original Message ----- From: "W David Samuelsen" <dsam@sampubco.com> To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [OREGON] Question Re Oregon State Hospital > If you have seen the movie "One Fly over Cuckoo Nest" with > Jack Nicholson and Louise Fletcher, then you know what THAT > hospital is. It is the very SAME HOSPITAL - LITERALLY! > > for the INSANE. > > David > > Elizabeth Freeman wrote: > > > > I have been searching for the death date/place for Thornton Reeves whose wife was Minerva Evaline Carsner/Casner (b8-21-1856 d9-18-1927). Minerva is listed as a widow on the 1920 Grant County census taken 1-28-1920 so presumably Thorton died piror to that date. > > > > I did find a T. M. Reeves who died in OR. I obtained a copy of the Certifiate of Death for T. M. Reeves from the OR Archives. I'm not sure if it is my Thornton Reeves or not; the age is about right. > > > > He died at the Oregon State Hospital, Salem Oregon and the death date is Nov. 10, 1920. The physician had been attending him since 6-23-1913 until 11-10-1920. The certificate says he was married and that he was born 11-8-1856. The informaant is the Oregon State Hospital. > > > > His mother and father are Jessee Reeves and Sarah Jane Reeves (that's all the information given) > > > > QUESTION: > > In 1920 was the Oregon State Hospital a medical hospital or was it a hospital for the mentally challenged, the insane, the elderly that were not able to care for themselves, etc.? I doubt that it was a medical facility since he had been there for about seven years. Where would I locate records for that time period? > > > > Thanks for any information. > > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the Oregon-L > > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > > Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the Oregon-L > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Your question is probably right on target for the answer, as one of my ancestors died there just months after entering of a cerebral tumor in 1925; another was committed at the request of family because of dementia and died in 1936. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Freeman" <eeffree@flash.net> To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 1:18 PM Subject: [OREGON] Question Re Oregon State Hospital > I have been searching for the death date/place for Thornton Reeves whose wife was Minerva Evaline Carsner/Casner (b8-21-1856 d9-18-1927). Minerva is listed as a widow on the 1920 Grant County census taken 1-28-1920 so presumably Thorton died piror to that date. > > I did find a T. M. Reeves who died in OR. I obtained a copy of the Certifiate of Death for T. M. Reeves from the OR Archives. I'm not sure if it is my Thornton Reeves or not; the age is about right. > > He died at the Oregon State Hospital, Salem Oregon and the death date is Nov. 10, 1920. The physician had been attending him since 6-23-1913 until 11-10-1920. The certificate says he was married and that he was born 11-8-1856. The informaant is the Oregon State Hospital. > > His mother and father are Jessee Reeves and Sarah Jane Reeves (that's all the information given) > > QUESTION: > In 1920 was the Oregon State Hospital a medical hospital or was it a hospital for the mentally challenged, the insane, the elderly that were not able to care for themselves, etc.? I doubt that it was a medical facility since he had been there for about seven years. Where would I locate records for that time period? > > Thanks for any information. > > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the Oregon-L > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

We would like to invite you to re-visit our website, The POORHOUSE STORY (a clearinghouse for information about 19th century American poorhouses) at http://www.poorhousestory.com We just posted a portion of a 1904 federal government report which summarizes the poor laws in every state. On the OREGON page we have copied the excerpt for just your state. It is interesting to see how the laws varied from state to state. And understanding which state or county agency had administrative responsiblity over poorhouses may help you locate local poorhouse records more easily. DIRECTIONS: At the homepage (link above) click on POORHOUSES BY STATE, then on OREGON on the table of states. If you have been to the website recently you may have to click REFRESH or RELOAD on the browser to see the new information. You will find the link to this excerpt near the top of the page in a section titled HISTORY and marked with a big yellow NEW arrow. There are other pages on the site which may give you some interesting perspective on poorhouses. They are off the homepage and include: the HISTORY page and the LETTER TO GENEALOGISTS as well as FEATURED ARTICLES. There are great tips for researching poorhouse records for yourself on the RECORDS page; and you might want to subscribe to our (almost) monthly newletter (which you can do in the lower right corner of the homepage). The information on our site will only grow through the submissions of generous readers. If you would like to e-mail me ... please do so off-list because I cannot maintain subscriptions to as many lists as we post messages on. (You can use an e-mail link off one of our web pages.) We hope you enjoy the site! Thanks, Linda Crannell (aka=The Poorhouse Lady)

If you have seen the movie "One Fly over Cuckoo Nest" with Jack Nicholson and Louise Fletcher, then you know what THAT hospital is. It is the very SAME HOSPITAL - LITERALLY! for the INSANE. David Elizabeth Freeman wrote: > > I have been searching for the death date/place for Thornton Reeves whose wife was Minerva Evaline Carsner/Casner (b8-21-1856 d9-18-1927). Minerva is listed as a widow on the 1920 Grant County census taken 1-28-1920 so presumably Thorton died piror to that date. > > I did find a T. M. Reeves who died in OR. I obtained a copy of the Certifiate of Death for T. M. Reeves from the OR Archives. I'm not sure if it is my Thornton Reeves or not; the age is about right. > > He died at the Oregon State Hospital, Salem Oregon and the death date is Nov. 10, 1920. The physician had been attending him since 6-23-1913 until 11-10-1920. The certificate says he was married and that he was born 11-8-1856. The informaant is the Oregon State Hospital. > > His mother and father are Jessee Reeves and Sarah Jane Reeves (that's all the information given) > > QUESTION: > In 1920 was the Oregon State Hospital a medical hospital or was it a hospital for the mentally challenged, the insane, the elderly that were not able to care for themselves, etc.? I doubt that it was a medical facility since he had been there for about seven years. Where would I locate records for that time period? > > Thanks for any information. > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the Oregon-L > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I have been searching for the death date/place for Thornton Reeves whose wife was Minerva Evaline Carsner/Casner (b8-21-1856 d9-18-1927). Minerva is listed as a widow on the 1920 Grant County census taken 1-28-1920 so presumably Thorton died piror to that date. I did find a T. M. Reeves who died in OR. I obtained a copy of the Certifiate of Death for T. M. Reeves from the OR Archives. I'm not sure if it is my Thornton Reeves or not; the age is about right. He died at the Oregon State Hospital, Salem Oregon and the death date is Nov. 10, 1920. The physician had been attending him since 6-23-1913 until 11-10-1920. The certificate says he was married and that he was born 11-8-1856. The informaant is the Oregon State Hospital. His mother and father are Jessee Reeves and Sarah Jane Reeves (that's all the information given) QUESTION: In 1920 was the Oregon State Hospital a medical hospital or was it a hospital for the mentally challenged, the insane, the elderly that were not able to care for themselves, etc.? I doubt that it was a medical facility since he had been there for about seven years. Where would I locate records for that time period? Thanks for any information.