Me. ******************************************** Robert James Sutherland, PhD Alberta Heritage Medical Scientist Canadian Centre for Behavioural Neuroscience Professor, Dept of Neuroscience Univ of LethbridgeLethbridge AB Canada T1K 3M4 Tel/Tél: 403-394-3987 Admin assistant: 403-394-3900 Fax/Télécopieur: 403-329-2775 E-mail/Courriel: robert.sutherland@uleth.ca ******************************************** "We think in generalities, but we live in detail." Alfred North Whitehead On 28-Mar-09, at 6:29 PM, stephen davie wrote: > ME! > On Mar 28, 2009, at 5:27 PM, Tuck Langland wrote: > >> Stephan and all, >> >> Lining up some friends is indeed the way to go. First of all, owning >> another house in a distant land, romantic as it may seem, has certain >> drawbacks. One is that's where you go every time you travel. So much >> for France, Spain, Italy, etc., it's always to the same house in >> Orkney. >> >> Second, when you get there you will probably spend most of your time >> working to repair any deterioration since the last visit. Fun. >> >> Third, no matter where you are, one of your houses is sitting empty, >> prey to burglars, water damage, fire etc. >> >> So the trust is a good idea, because you share cost, work, and time. >> Know of anyone? >> >> Tuck >> On Mar 28, 2009, at 2:37 PM, stephen davie wrote: >> >>> Tuck....You can't put a price on yer heritage and food fer yer soul. >>> I will probably end up with jist enough property there for a cairn. >>> Indeed, there was a lovely 50 acres with an old rickpile of a house, >>> on the water not far >>> from Finstown. Some Italian duckhunter bought it! >>> Paid enough to buy about a hundred thousand ducks. >>> >>> I have the solution to your formula problem. >>> Ya line up some relatives or friends, and form a trust. >>> I call it my "share the pride" program. >>> >>> cheers...Stephen >>> >>> On Mar 28, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Tuck Langland wrote: >>> >>>> All, >>>> >>>> Several years ago, while visiting in Orkney and lusting after >>>> buying a >>>> small house there, I spoke to a local and said, >>>> >>>> "New let's see if I've got this straight. I buy a house for a >>>> hundred >>>> thousand, spend a second hundred thousand fixing it up all nice, >>>> and >>>> now I own a house worth a hundred thousand. Is that right?" >>>> >>>> And he replied, "You've got it exactly right." >>>> >>>> So perhaps now I can knock those numbers down a bit, but the >>>> principle >>>> remains the same. >>>> >>>> I guess I'll wait. >>>> >>>> >>>> Tuck >>>> On Mar 27, 2009, at 9:51 PM, stephen davie wrote: >>>> >>>>> I noticed this evening, that there seems to be quite a raft of >>>>> properties floating on the market in Orkney. Perhaps it is just >>>>> that >>>>> I found a website with the bulk of the listings, or perhaps it is >>>>> this new economy speaking to people. Lots of "doubling up" going >>>>> on >>>>> here in Canada, with family members merging their housing, as the >>>>> economy continues to shrink faster than GM's bailout money. >>>>> >>>>> One add which was cute, suggested that if you moved to Stronsay, >>>>> you >>>>> could avoid traffic jams! haha. Over to you Bruce. Bin stuck in >>>>> the >>>>> rush hour traffic lately? >>>>> >>>>> Then the Balfour Castle is for sale, and comparing it to a Muskoka >>>>> Estate near my place, the price at 2.7 million pounds is virtually >>>>> justifiable, in an economy with some long term prospects that >>>>> aren't >>>>> so unholy scary. Indeed, the photos are just lovely, and the 14 >>>>> bedrooms and 10 baths are a delight. To ever replace the stoney >>>>> lofty >>>>> structure would be virtually unthinkable. I further did not know >>>>> that >>>>> the property is indeed one that affords world class >>>>> waterfowling. It >>>>> would be the ultimate b and b. >>>>> >>>>> All the places posted seem to reflect a drop in price. There did >>>>> not >>>>> seem many with acreages a few years back, and indeed the prospects >>>>> below two hundred thousand pounds, were few and sketchy. >>>>> >>>>> Indeed two of the places for sale are priced at thirty five and >>>>> forty >>>>> five thousand pounds respectively. One of these has six acres, on >>>>> Sanday in think, and the other little place, only six miles from >>>>> Kirkwall in Tankerness.... a wee rocky fixer-upper. >>>>> >>>>> It will be interesting to see how things fair in Orkney in the new >>>>> world economic storm. I suspect, that like farming communities >>>>> here, >>>>> people will do better there than in the big cities to the south. >>>>> Farmers near here say that in light of the fact that they live >>>>> within >>>>> a budget, and have no propensity for unrestricted spending >>>>> frenzies >>>>> on borrowed money, that their lives will be the same, basically. >>>>> That >>>>> frugality is evident in Orkney, and will shortly prove it's value >>>>> methinks. And the expatriated Orkney families of yesteryear, will >>>>> continue to return and explore their roots, and in some cases >>>>> invest >>>>> in their heritage with a property there. Orkney is indeed a world >>>>> class attraction. >>>>> >>>>> So, not much news from the green isles these days. I still have >>>>> two >>>>> feet of snow some places in my yard, but that will soon disappear. >>>>> Spring here, as in Orkney, is a tonic for the soul. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers....Stephen in central Canada >>>>> >>>>> ( the doonies in 2009!) >>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>> Orcadia Group Photo Album >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/28bx9x >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORCADIA- >>>>> request@rootsweb.com >>>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>>>> the body of the message >>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> Orcadia Group Photo Album >>>> http://tinyurl.com/28bx9x >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORCADIA- >>>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> Orcadia Group Photo Album >>> http://tinyurl.com/28bx9x >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORCADIA- >>> request@rootsweb.com >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >> >> _______________________________________ >> Orcadia Group Photo Album >> http://tinyurl.com/28bx9x >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORCADIA- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > _______________________________________ > Orcadia Group Photo Album > http://tinyurl.com/28bx9x > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Yup...tis a half truth. For if we dare not to dream, then we have to work on someone else's schedule of priorities and avoid the thrill of expression of self. To create something, we think in detail don't we? I have been in the real estate and development business north of Toronto for 38 years, and learned many years ago of the benefits laterally of a thing called syndicated partnerships. Spread the risks and the pain, the management and responsibility, and it is easier to do ten deals like that, then get caught in one bad one on your own. That is why we will buy a tiny bit of Orkney as a family group. So while we may indeed think in generalities, we Canuks are good at being on the edge...on new ground. That is why we can take credit for the Avro Arrow, the telephone, the De havilland Beaver, the Blackberry, Basketball, the chocolate bar, the gas mask, the light bulb, the garbage bag, the paint roller, the robinson screw, the birch bark canoe, balderdash, the anti gravity suit, the electric stove, cystic fibrosis gene discovery, insulin, the elctric wheelchair, five pin bowling, ice HOCKEY, the hydrofoil boat, the kayak, the jolly jumper, lacrosse, the mackintosh apple, newsprint, pablum, the pacemaker, the retractable beer case handle, the snowmobile, the definition of the speed of sound, the telegraph, the tipi, trivial pursuit, velcro, the walkie talkie and the zipper. I think that blueberry pie is ours too, if it's real wild blueberries. None of these folks would likely have assented to the idea that they had to live in generalities...which is to say a principle having general rather than specific validity or force. Using a very local example to me, in the case of Drs. Banting and Best, I gotta think that their contribution to humanity, namely insulin, stretches beyond the limits of generality. But yeah, lots of people sorta give up because being "outside the box" is not often easy, on many plains. So out of those years or just brief moments of living in generalities, we can turn on the minds and the power fom within, step outside the box of generalities, and be innovative, creative and contributive. As a scientist you have many examples in your own profession. Quite frankly, we need some political leaders ( an oxymoron?) here and elsewhere in this world these days, who can think up solutions from our current generality in the world, which is the utter collapse of the g8 economies and beyond. Even Alberta posted a deficit this year. Hope all is well in Lethbridge. Bin there many times on business, and always liked the bridge over the coulee. The ag fair there in march is fun and the blood reserve is unique. cheers...stephen On Mar 28, 2009, at 8:44 PM, Robert Sutherland wrote: > Me. > > ******************************************** > Robert James Sutherland, PhD > Alberta Heritage Medical Scientist > Canadian Centre for Behavioural Neuroscience > Professor, Dept of Neuroscience > Univ of LethbridgeLethbridge AB Canada > T1K 3M4 > Tel/Tél: 403-394-3987 > Admin assistant: 403-394-3900 > Fax/Télécopieur: 403-329-2775 > E-mail/Courriel: robert.sutherland@uleth.ca > ******************************************** > "We think in generalities, but we live in detail." > > Alfred North Whitehead > > > On 28-Mar-09, at 6:29 PM, stephen davie wrote: > >> ME! >> On Mar 28, 2009, at 5:27 PM, Tuck Langland wrote: >> >>> Stephan and all, >>> >>> Lining up some friends is indeed the way to go. First of all, owning >>> another house in a distant land, romantic as it may seem, has >>> certain >>> drawbacks. One is that's where you go every time you travel. So much >>> for France, Spain, Italy, etc., it's always to the same house in >>> Orkney. >>> >>> Second, when you get there you will probably spend most of your time >>> working to repair any deterioration since the last visit. Fun. >>> >>> Third, no matter where you are, one of your houses is sitting empty, >>> prey to burglars, water damage, fire etc. >>> >>> So the trust is a good idea, because you share cost, work, and time. >>> Know of anyone? >>> >>> Tuck >>> On Mar 28, 2009, at 2:37 PM, stephen davie wrote: >>> >>>> Tuck....You can't put a price on yer heritage and food fer yer >>>> soul. >>>> I will probably end up with jist enough property there for a cairn. >>>> Indeed, there was a lovely 50 acres with an old rickpile of a >>>> house, >>>> on the water not far >>>> from Finstown. Some Italian duckhunter bought it! >>>> Paid enough to buy about a hundred thousand ducks. >>>> >>>> I have the solution to your formula problem. >>>> Ya line up some relatives or friends, and form a trust. >>>> I call it my "share the pride" program. >>>> >>>> cheers...Stephen >>>> >>>> On Mar 28, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Tuck Langland wrote: >>>> >>>>> All, >>>>> >>>>> Several years ago, while visiting in Orkney and lusting after >>>>> buying a >>>>> small house there, I spoke to a local and said, >>>>> >>>>> "New let's see if I've got this straight. I buy a house for a >>>>> hundred >>>>> thousand, spend a second hundred thousand fixing it up all nice, >>>>> and >>>>> now I own a house worth a hundred thousand. Is that right?" >>>>> >>>>> And he replied, "You've got it exactly right." >>>>> >>>>> So perhaps now I can knock those numbers down a bit, but the >>>>> principle >>>>> remains the same. >>>>> >>>>> I guess I'll wait. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tuck >>>>> On Mar 27, 2009, at 9:51 PM, stephen davie wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I noticed this evening, that there seems to be quite a raft of >>>>>> properties floating on the market in Orkney. Perhaps it is just >>>>>> that >>>>>> I found a website with the bulk of the listings, or perhaps it is >>>>>> this new economy speaking to people. Lots of "doubling up" going >>>>>> on >>>>>> here in Canada, with family members merging their housing, as >>>>>> the >>>>>> economy continues to shrink faster than GM's bailout money. >>>>>> >>>>>> One add which was cute, suggested that if you moved to Stronsay, >>>>>> you >>>>>> could avoid traffic jams! haha. Over to you Bruce. Bin stuck in >>>>>> the >>>>>> rush hour traffic lately? >>>>>> >>>>>> Then the Balfour Castle is for sale, and comparing it to a >>>>>> Muskoka >>>>>> Estate near my place, the price at 2.7 million pounds is >>>>>> virtually >>>>>> justifiable, in an economy with some long term prospects that >>>>>> aren't >>>>>> so unholy scary. Indeed, the photos are just lovely, and the 14 >>>>>> bedrooms and 10 baths are a delight. To ever replace the stoney >>>>>> lofty >>>>>> structure would be virtually unthinkable. I further did not know >>>>>> that >>>>>> the property is indeed one that affords world class >>>>>> waterfowling. It >>>>>> would be the ultimate b and b. >>>>>> >>>>>> All the places posted seem to reflect a drop in price. There did >>>>>> not >>>>>> seem many with acreages a few years back, and indeed the >>>>>> prospects >>>>>> below two hundred thousand pounds, were few and sketchy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Indeed two of the places for sale are priced at thirty five and >>>>>> forty >>>>>> five thousand pounds respectively. One of these has six acres, on >>>>>> Sanday in think, and the other little place, only six miles from >>>>>> Kirkwall in Tankerness.... a wee rocky fixer-upper. >>>>>> >>>>>> It will be interesting to see how things fair in Orkney in the >>>>>> new >>>>>> world economic storm. I suspect, that like farming communities >>>>>> here, >>>>>> people will do better there than in the big cities to the south. >>>>>> Farmers near here say that in light of the fact that they live >>>>>> within >>>>>> a budget, and have no propensity for unrestricted spending >>>>>> frenzies >>>>>> on borrowed money, that their lives will be the same, basically. >>>>>> That >>>>>> frugality is evident in Orkney, and will shortly prove it's value >>>>>> methinks. And the expatriated Orkney families of yesteryear, will >>>>>> continue to return and explore their roots, and in some cases >>>>>> invest >>>>>> in their heritage with a property there. Orkney is indeed a world >>>>>> class attraction. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, not much news from the green isles these days. I still have >>>>>> two >>>>>> feet of snow some places in my yard, but that will soon >>>>>> disappear. >>>>>> Spring here, as in Orkney, is a tonic for the soul. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers....Stephen in central Canada >>>>>> >>>>>> ( the doonies in 2009!) >>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>> Orcadia Group Photo Album >>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/28bx9x >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORCADIA- >>>>>> request@rootsweb.com >>>>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>>>>> the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>> Orcadia Group Photo Album >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/28bx9x >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORCADIA- >>>>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> Orcadia Group Photo Album >>>> http://tinyurl.com/28bx9x >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORCADIA- >>>> request@rootsweb.com >>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>>> the body of the message >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> Orcadia Group Photo Album >>> http://tinyurl.com/28bx9x >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORCADIA- >>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> _______________________________________ >> Orcadia Group Photo Album >> http://tinyurl.com/28bx9x >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORCADIA- >> request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > _______________________________________ > Orcadia Group Photo Album > http://tinyurl.com/28bx9x > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORCADIA- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >