Stephen & Dutch - Thnk you for the HBC comments - it gives me a good feeling - I have a Great Uncle, Joseph Drever, Westray, O, who is purported to have become Chief Joseph of the Cree tribe because he had married the daughter of a Chief who had no sons so Joseph, his son-in-law, was selected as Chief. The Orcadian ran an article quite a few years ago about Chief Joseph and somewhere in my files I have a copy of the photograph of Joseph which accompanied the article - Sigurd - does this ring a bell with you? Many thanks - another association I can be proud of. Those Folk were tough!! Jim D - Denver