In defence of London - a city I lived in for 2 and a half years, and love more than any other place - there are no litter bins in central London, because the IRA used to put bombs in them. There is however an army of people who do nothing but collect litter off the streets. All over London you can see bemused tourists and embarrassed middle class people dicreetly placing their litter next to a lamp post or under a bench. Anyway, going to London expecting tidiness is like going to Orkney expecting sun; its just not what the place does. Robert On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:46:27 -0000, "Janis Counsell" wrote: > > I cannot disagree with anything you say Steve, but it should be on a global > scale surely. I find Orkney a very clean and tidy place and they do recycle! > The worst place I have encountered for litter is our capital, London, it is > a disgrace! > Janis > Lancashire >