On 22 February 2004 12:58, Dutch Thompson wrote: > I know this has prob. been discussed before, but > 1/ were the Picts a Celtic tribe (s) ? Technically yes. > If they were northern > ironage people how are they different from southern ironage > peoples whom I believe were mostly if not all originally > celts from the continent ? Probably only in custom and perhaps language - although this remains hotly debated. 2/ Why are picts not considered > Britons the way the southern tribes encountered by the Romans > et al are ? It's a question of terminology. The Roman historians labelled the people of the north as Picts. Over the years this led to them being distinctly categorised as such, although they were probably very similar to the southern Britons. >3/written accounts of the picts only starts a bit before 300 > AD- is there other "evidence" of them being in Orkney before then ? This is one of the classic problems resulting from the Roman categorisation of the Picts. It has led to the widespread belief that they were a new or distinct race. In Orkney they were, in all probability, simply the descendents of the people who had lived in the islands for years. See http://www.orkneyjar.com/history/picts -- Sigurd Towrie Blackhall - Kirbister - Stromness - Orkney Heritage of Orkney: www.orkneyjar.com Home: sigurd@orkneyjar.com Work: sigurd.towrie@orcadian.co.uk

Thank-you. Cheers Thompson\ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sigurd Towrie" <sigurd@orkneyjar.com> To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 4:26 PM Subject: RE: [<orcadia>] Picts > On 22 February 2004 12:58, Dutch Thompson wrote: > > > I know this has prob. been discussed before, but > > 1/ were the Picts a Celtic tribe (s) ? > > Technically yes. > > > > If they were northern > > ironage people how are they different from southern ironage > > peoples whom I believe were mostly if not all originally > > celts from the continent ? > > Probably only in custom and perhaps language - although this remains > hotly debated. > > 2/ Why are picts not considered > > Britons the way the southern tribes encountered by the Romans > > et al are ? > > It's a question of terminology. The Roman historians labelled the people > of the north as Picts. Over the years this led to them being distinctly > categorised as such, although they were probably very similar to the > southern Britons. > > >3/written accounts of the picts only starts a bit before 300 > > AD- is there other "evidence" of them being in Orkney before then ? > > This is one of the classic problems resulting from the Roman > categorisation of the Picts. It has led to the widespread belief that > they were a new or distinct race. In Orkney they were, in all > probability, simply the descendents of the people who had lived in the > islands for years. > > See http://www.orkneyjar.com/history/picts > > -- > Sigurd Towrie > Blackhall - Kirbister - Stromness - Orkney > Heritage of Orkney: www.orkneyjar.com > Home: sigurd@orkneyjar.com > Work: sigurd.towrie@orcadian.co.uk > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the word > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com > >