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    1. Re: [ORCADIA] Ferries, Oil, and Fears....
    2. stephen davie
    3. Hello Karen: Oil is not off topic in Orkney. Neither is the Gulf Stream, the North Atlantic Drift, or the subject of off shore drilling, which paves the roads in Orkney, and puts playground equipment in school yards there. BP is an international corporation with 35% American ownership and presently operating in waters under American laws and management and control. Indeed, President Obama seems to think the issue is in large part American, as to the disenfranchised fishermen, horrified holiday folks, and resort and property owners. The fact is that the problem now is NOT an exclusive American horror story. The Mexicans, have a serious stake in the well being of the Gulf of MEXICO. The Cuban economy stands to be gutted to the tune of billions, when this oil reaches la habana and the beaches across to Holguin. To the point, I have seen driftwood on Stronsay, where Bruce lives, which wood was plucked from the sea there, and which wood was obviously once rooted in south america. The reality of the Gulf Stream and the associated North Atlantic Drift, would indicate that there now is a probability that this spill won't avoid making it's way to the North, between Orkney and Iceland. This of course is not just my opinion, but rather that of internationally recognized scientists and oceanographers alike. The reason is because at a couple million gallons a day, to continue until late fall after hurricane season, there will be just too much of this oil afloat to avoid such an event from becoming reality. Contrary to what you read in the news, this is not about the United States. Yes, the ability to respond to a crisis in the Gulf, in American waters legally, and under American regulations, has been sub standard. The President is being harassed each day as if it was his personal responsibility. His approach has been unlike that of his predecessor. But the USA is not the world custodian of the high seas. I don't think it becomes anyone to get their shorts in a knot because what has happened is this time rooted in American waters and under American regulations. What the world needs to do, is act. Obama has identified the shortfall of adequate safeguards and responsibilities of the previous administration, and if BP doesn't pay out an annual dividend, I don't think the world will fret much. Orkney is pristine, unlike anything in the USA or other overdeveloped countries. The sand on the beaches of places like Stronsay and Rousay, are as clean and crisp as exist in the world. The oil industry in the North Sea, has avoided the types of horrors which are seen on the news every night nowadays. I am just wondering how prepared the Brits are in a situation where a blowout occurred in the North Sea. Seems to me that the standards over there, are perhaps more realistic and practically motivated. I spoke to a lady yesterday in Arkansas who has discovered spots on the plants in her vegetable garden. She is 82 and has never seen this. Someone in North or South Carolina found the same. It was felt that there was a connection between residue from rainfall which originated from moist air off of the Gulf. Karen, keep an eye on your petunias! So, we in Canada share the same concerns as people in Orkney and Mexico and Cuba do about a billion or two gallons of oil floating around in the Gulf and the Gulf Stream, in the advent of hurricane season. I should think you might harbor the same concerns. Had any Gulf Shrimp lately? It isn' t selling well here. But I can but great Orkney salmon, just down the road from here. I hope that will always be the case. Cheers from Canada.... Stephen On Jun 16, 2010, at 4:27 PM, KJEMEM@aol.com wrote: > Stephen, would you please get your facts straight and use them > correctly > before you start bashing. > It's BP's oil, BP's leak, BP's negligence, & BP's denial of the > quantities > and effects people here have been pointing out from the beginning. > Not to > mention the UK being offended that we make demands and accusations > against > a company, which, although international, has British in it's name. > > It's off topic and enough said, but I couldn't leave it where you > did. > > Karen > > > > > In a message dated 6/16/2010 3:09:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > stephen.davie@sympatico.ca writes: > > Interesting Bruce. Certainly seems to make sense to use the smaller > faster boats, especially when there are no vehicles or freight items > involved. > > I have been watching the news recently, about the devastating oil > blowout in the Gulf of Mexico. The Yanks seemed very slow on the > uptake to stop the leak. > Today they have finally conceded that the actual daily gush, is about > 60,000 barrels or 2.4 million gallons per day. It is approaching 60 > days, or more than a quarter of a billion gallons. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORCADIA- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/16/2010 10:57:04
    1. [ORCADIA] Admin Note RE: Ferries, Oil, and Fears....
    2. Jim Jackson
    3. Folks, This is a genealogically oriented mailing list and there is nothing genealogical about this current discussion. The discussion is ended. As administrator I will do whatever necessary to ensure that fact. Let's get back to genealogy, shall we? Thanks, Jim "Pops" Jackson

    06/16/2010 02:51:13
    1. Re: [ORCADIA] Admin Note RE: Ferries, Oil, and Fears....
    2. Jeff Peck
    3. Actually, as one who rarely posts but enjoys the reading, and has been on this list for many years, I can tell you that it was specifically NOT a genealogy list when it was set up. Go back and read early archives, if they are still around. Jeff Peck On 6/16/2010 5:51 PM, Jim Jackson wrote: > Folks, > > This is a genealogically oriented mailing list and there is nothing > genealogical about this current discussion. The discussion is ended. As > administrator I will do whatever necessary to ensure that fact. > > Let's get back to genealogy, shall we? > > Thanks, > > Jim "Pops" Jackson > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- We carry in our hearts the true country, and that cannot be broken. We travel in the steps of our ancestry, and that cannot be stolen.< "the Dead Heart" Midnight Oil>

    06/16/2010 04:39:45
    1. Re: [ORCADIA] Admin Note RE: Ferries, Oil, and Fears....
    2. Ginger Cutt
    3. I know when I joined this mailing list it was talking about Orkney and its history, and culture. That is specifically why I joined it because I was marry into an Orkney family and as an American knew nothing and wanted to learn with out having to ask questions all the time from my family. So if this list is going to go to just genealogy and I would like to know where you are getting this information, I would not be interested. My father in law was excellent when alive to doing the family genealogy and that would be the only thing I would be interested in. I like the discussion that are on here and would want them to continue. Ginger -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Jackson" <popsjackson@charter.net> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:51 AM To: <orcadia@rootsweb.com> Subject: [ORCADIA] Admin Note RE: Ferries, Oil, and Fears.... > Folks, > > This is a genealogically oriented mailing list and there is nothing > genealogical about this current discussion. The discussion is ended. As > administrator I will do whatever necessary to ensure that fact. > > Let's get back to genealogy, shall we? > > Thanks, > > Jim "Pops" Jackson > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/17/2010 02:03:09