Greetings Les, Please refer to my letter as sent to Anne-Marie. As far as I am aware I have made no cheap jibs at the English, and would also respectfully suggest you try reading the book by David R Ross. There is enough hate and greed in this world, without me adding to it. Perhaps I have quoted some of Scotland's greatest hero's on more than one occasion, but let's not forget Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King, the former imprisoned for his beliefs and the latter killed for his beliefs. I am sure Wallace would have been proud of both just as I am. The cry is still FREEDOM! Take care Grumpy -------Original Message------- From: ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com Date: 30 November 2003 19:23:13 To: ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [] Re: [] Grumpy I'd agree with Anne-Marie - If you want cheap jibes at the English there's no doubt a Scot-Nat group somewhere ..... The St Andrews prayer 'Help us love our land and hate no other' applies somewhere. Who first attributed Wallace as fighting for 'freedom', anyway? And indeed freedom for whom from what? I suspect that's a fairly new concept. Les -----Original Message----- From: Anne-Marie Tye [mailto:annemarie.tye@btinternet.com] Sent: 30 November 2003 18:55 To: ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [<orcadia>] Re: [] Grumpy Dear All, the English King Tony Blair is, like so much of his court (cabinet) a Scot - born in Edinburgh. I'm starting to find some of the correspondence a bit xenophobic. Anne-Marie