Dear All, the English King Tony Blair is, like so much of his court (cabinet) a Scot - born in Edinburgh. I'm starting to find some of the correspondence a bit xenophobic. Anne-Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grumpy" <grumpy_in_orkney@btinternet.com> To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 11:14 AM Subject: [<orcadia>] Re: [] Grumpy > Glad Tidings and Peace on Earth Stephen, > > There has been a few letters guessing at who, what and where am I. > > I am neither animal, vegetable or mineral, don't live in or around Stromness > have never been a councilor (and never will be). > > I am the long forgotten spirit of Scotland, and if I could take on flesh > form I would have been found fighting side by side with Scotland's greatest > hero "William Wallace", (the real "William Wallace" and not "Mel Gibson"). > > Wallace was also seen as one of the bad guys, not only by the English King, > but by the Scottish noble men of the time. But there is no denying the fact > that for a short period of Scotland's history he managed to unite men of > courage to fight for the basic right of "FREEDOM" > > What would the great man make of todays Scotland?, well not much has really > changed, the role of the Scottish noblemen has been taken over by Scottish > Politicians, and like their forebear they are still in the pocket of the > English King - Tony Blair! > > Wallace was one of a kind and his like will never be found again, he lived > in a time where living and dying by the sword was for some an accepted way > of life. In today's modern society we are told that the correct way to fight > for what's right is through lobbying. Unless of course you are in a position > of power, you can then start dropping so called smart bombs, invade far off > lands, under the banner of freeing oppressed people, and then declare that > you will manage their valuable resources on their behalf - bah humbug! > > Orkney was given as a dowry for marriage many centuries ago, little regard > was given to the effect on local inhabitants's at the time. Decisions are > made at high level, and to ensure that correct decisions are made we need > more true natives in these high level positions, who cannot be bought for > pieces of silver. > > Take care > > Grumpy > >

I'd agree with Anne-Marie - If you want cheap jibes at the English there's no doubt a Scot-Nat group somewhere ..... The St Andrews prayer 'Help us love our land and hate no other' applies somewhere. Who first attributed Wallace as fighting for 'freedom', anyway? And indeed freedom for whom from what? I suspect that's a fairly new concept. Les -----Original Message----- From: Anne-Marie Tye [mailto:annemarie.tye@btinternet.com] Sent: 30 November 2003 18:55 To: ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [<orcadia>] Re: [] Grumpy Dear All, the English King Tony Blair is, like so much of his court (cabinet) a Scot - born in Edinburgh. I'm starting to find some of the correspondence a bit xenophobic. Anne-Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grumpy" <grumpy_in_orkney@btinternet.com> To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 11:14 AM Subject: [<orcadia>] Re: [] Grumpy > Glad Tidings and Peace on Earth Stephen, > > There has been a few letters guessing at who, what and where am I. > > I am neither animal, vegetable or mineral, don't live in or around Stromness > have never been a councilor (and never will be). > > I am the long forgotten spirit of Scotland, and if I could take on flesh > form I would have been found fighting side by side with Scotland's greatest > hero "William Wallace", (the real "William Wallace" and not "Mel Gibson"). > > Wallace was also seen as one of the bad guys, not only by the English King, > but by the Scottish noble men of the time. But there is no denying the fact > that for a short period of Scotland's history he managed to unite men of > courage to fight for the basic right of "FREEDOM" > > What would the great man make of todays Scotland?, well not much has really > changed, the role of the Scottish noblemen has been taken over by Scottish > Politicians, and like their forebear they are still in the pocket of the > English King - Tony Blair! > > Wallace was one of a kind and his like will never be found again, he lived > in a time where living and dying by the sword was for some an accepted way > of life. In today's modern society we are told that the correct way to fight > for what's right is through lobbying. Unless of course you are in a position > of power, you can then start dropping so called smart bombs, invade far off > lands, under the banner of freeing oppressed people, and then declare that > you will manage their valuable resources on their behalf - bah humbug! > > Orkney was given as a dowry for marriage many centuries ago, little regard > was given to the effect on local inhabitants's at the time. Decisions are > made at high level, and to ensure that correct decisions are made we need > more true natives in these high level positions, who cannot be bought for > pieces of silver. > > Take care > > Grumpy > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the word 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com

Hello Anne-Marie, Xenophobic, bah humbug. I actually had to look the word up in the dictionary to find out what it meant. Needless to say I was shocked to see that it meant "a fear or dislike of foreigners or strangers", this certainly does not apply to me. Perhaps you have read more into my letters than intended, I would suggest that by reading "between the lines" you will find the true meaning of what I am saying. The whole course of Orkney and Scottish history was changed by the death of The Maid of Norway" in 1290 and had direct bearing on Wallace's appearance in Scottish history. To understand what Wallace stood for I suggest that you try reading the book "On the Trail of William Wallace" by David R Ross. A strong nation is one that take's pride in heritage and shows compassion to others and treats it's fellow man with respect. Respect is earned and is not god given, it matters not if Blair is Scots, Welsh, Irish or English, what does matter is he a man of integrity or a puppet on a string to a greater power. I am disgusted by the way the people of Africa were treated and taken into slavery by the white man, does that make me a racist against white's. If you were to take that last remark at face value you might assume that I am then a blackman (which I am not). The fact that I would like to see a FREE Scotland, completely separate from England, Wales or Ireland does not make me Xenophobic, just an idealist. Also the fact that I would like Scotland to have it's own future King (preferably not one that will be accused of getting caught in bed with his man servant) does not make me homophobic. Take care, and peace and good will to all foreigners, strangers, what ever your colour, ethnic background etc, etc, etc. Grumpy -------Original Message------- From: ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com Date: 30 November 2003 18:55:46 To: ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [] Re: [] Grumpy Dear All, the English King Tony Blair is, like so much of his court (cabinet) a Scot - born in Edinburgh. I'm starting to find some of the correspondence a bit xenophobic. Anne-Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grumpy" <grumpy_in_orkney@btinternet.com> To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 11:14 AM Subject: [<orcadia>] Re: [] Grumpy > Glad Tidings and Peace on Earth Stephen, > > There has been a few letters guessing at who, what and where am I. > > I am neither animal, vegetable or mineral, don't live in or around Stromness > have never been a councilor (and never will be). > > I am the long forgotten spirit of Scotland, and if I could take on flesh > form I would have been found fighting side by side with Scotland's greatest > hero "William Wallace", (the real "William Wallace" and not "Mel Gibson"). > > Wallace was also seen as one of the bad guys, not only by the English King, > but by the Scottish noble men of the time. But there is no denying the fact > that for a short period of Scotland's history he managed to unite men of > courage to fight for the basic right of "FREEDOM" > > What would the great man make of todays Scotland?, well not much has really > changed, the role of the Scottish noblemen has been taken over by Scottish > Politicians, and like their forebear they are still in the pocket of the > English King - Tony Blair! > > Wallace was one of a kind and his like will never be found again, he lived > in a time where living and dying by the sword was for some an accepted way > of life. In today's modern society we are told that the correct way to fight > for what's right is through lobbying. Unless of course you are in a position > of power, you can then start dropping so called smart bombs, invade far off > lands, under the banner of freeing oppressed people, and then declare that > you will manage their valuable resources on their behalf - bah humbug! > > Orkney was given as a dowry for marriage many centuries ago, little regard > was given to the effect on local inhabitants's at the time. Decisions are > made at high level, and to ensure that correct decisions are made we need > more true natives in these high level positions, who cannot be bought for > pieces of silver. > > Take care > > Grumpy > > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the word 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com