"If you haven't heard a rumour by ten o'clock start one." i haven't received an orcadia-L+rootsweb.com message since tuesday so i'll post one roots-L(at)rootsweb.com has an online archive of all messages i found the Orcadia online achiives at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ORCADIA.html thnx bill canadian orcadian Bill Irvine alternate email: wji@islandnet.com