sigurd, http://www.orkneyjar.com/history/historicalfigures/johnrae/ i think it would be hlepful to have a link such as this from Dr. John Rae's page http://nebula.on.ca/hamiltonassoc/jr_intro.htm or directly suggest reading Fatal Passage thnx bill p.s. do you know where information can be obtain re: Rae's association with the Knights Templar? The prone position of Rae's effigy in St. Magnus indicates this.