In a message dated 12/10/2003 12:46:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, grumpy_in_orkney@btinternet.com writes: Hello Nora, I may be wrong but I don't think you are writing from Orkney, in which case that is not an Orkney grown willow messing your yard. An Orkney willow is like an Orcadian, strong, never yielding under pressure, ready to brave the fiercest storm, feet firmly planted, but with a soft centre. Take care Grumpy You are no wrong. I am in the US, New York, where they don't appreciate the trees we have. I am on this list because as i watch these beautiful forests here destroyed to create more suburbs, I can read about a place where the old traditions still survive and where there is still community. That's why I don't post much. i really enjoy this list, and maybe someday I'll get to visit Orkney Nora