Hi to all on the List! I have joined to discuss what is known about the Picts and their Norse origins. This may have been spoken about previously on the list, but I would like to revisit this subject anew, if I may, and collect your thoughts on the matter. What evidence survives to support the belief that Picts were from Scandinavia? Does Ogham script on Pictish stones reflect our Gaelic maternal cultural influences. I look forward to your replies. Grant South FSA Scot.

On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 13:57:08 +1000, Palden wrote: > What evidence survives to support the belief that Picts were from > Scandinavia? None. A Scandinavian origin for the Picts is a theory that fell out of favour many years ago, overtaken by archaeological and historical research. The few early documents concerning the Picts attribute them to Thrace ot Scythia (which some try to equate with Scandinavia - hence the origin of the theory), but it is generally accepted these days that "the Picts" were not a "new race" but were the descendants of the prehistoric people of Northern Scotland. -- Sigurd Towrie Blackhall - Kirbister - Stromness - Orkney Email: sigurd@orkneyjar.com Heritage of Orkney: www.orkneyjar.com

Sigurd, Are there any traces still extant of these prehistoric peoples prior to the Picts? and if so where? FMFDOC6@YAHOO.COM Sigurd Towrie <sigurd@orkneyjar.com> wrote: On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 13:57:08 +1000, Palden wrote: > What evidence survives to support the belief that Picts were from > Scandinavia? None. A Scandinavian origin for the Picts is a theory that fell out of favour many years ago, overtaken by archaeological and historical research. The few early documents concerning the Picts attribute them to Thrace ot Scythia (which some try to equate with Scandinavia - hence the origin of the theory), but it is generally accepted these days that "the Picts" were not a "new race" but were the descendants of the prehistoric people of Northern Scotland. -- Sigurd Towrie Blackhall - Kirbister - Stromness - Orkney Email: sigurd@orkneyjar.com Heritage of Orkney: www.orkneyjar.com ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the word 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com Always forbidden on occasion mandatory MAHALO Dennis --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today

Dear Sigurd, Thank you for your e-mail. If we uphold an indigenous origin for the Picts then in terms of migration and settlement in Scotland, we see Ahrenburgian Microlith finds in various places in Scotland suggesting early migration from Southern Scandinavia. Further I believe Dr Richard Cox, has translated Pictish Ogham using an archaic form of Norse, I do not know if this is recognised or supported by others or not? This is of some interest, and I would like to hear your opinion's either way. All the best. Grant South ----- Original Message ----- From: Sigurd Towrie To: ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [<orcadia>] The Picts On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 13:57:08 +1000, Palden wrote: > What evidence survives to support the belief that Picts were from > Scandinavia? None. A Scandinavian origin for the Picts is a theory that fell out of favour many years ago, overtaken by archaeological and historical research. The few early documents concerning the Picts attribute them to Thrace ot Scythia (which some try to equate with Scandinavia - hence the origin of the theory), but it is generally accepted these days that "the Picts" were not a "new race" but were the descendants of the prehistoric people of Northern Scotland. -- Sigurd Towrie Blackhall - Kirbister - Stromness - Orkney Email: sigurd@orkneyjar.com Heritage of Orkney: www.orkneyjar.com ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the word 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com

On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 13:57:08 +1000, Palden wrote: > Does Ogham script on Pictish stones reflect our Gaelic maternal > cultural influences. Ogham script was developed in Ireland, and from there is thought to have spread into Mainland Scotland - possibly with the spread of Christianity. The Picts adopted/adapted it for their own use. -- Sigurd Towrie Blackhall - Kirbister - Stromness - Orkney Email: sigurd@orkneyjar.com Heritage of Orkney: www.orkneyjar.com