Jim, your apology is accepted with a warm heart. There are two lists on Orkney, and it's easy to mix them up. Janice On Jun 17, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Jim Jackson wrote: > It seems I have "leaped before looking..." and so must first > apologize for > my error. In looking back over the archives I have found that the > discussions really have been about the area and various topics > relating to > it. Please overlook my earlier missal and feel free to continue > with the > historical use of this list. The real constraint would be that of > preventing "flaming" and otherwise angry responses to one another. > > Thanks for allowing an old codger to make the occasional mistake > even if he > should know how to avoid doing so. > > Best wishes, > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: orcadia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:orcadia-bounces@rootsweb.com > ] On > Behalf Of Sutherland, Robert > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:11 PM > To: orcadia@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ORCADIA] Admin Note RE: Ferries, Oil, and Fears.... > > I was under the impression that this was an Orkney oriented list. > I thought there were other genealogy-limited lists for those who > feel the > need for that constraint. > > - Rob Sutherland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

It seems I have "leaped before looking..." and so must first apologize for my error. In looking back over the archives I have found that the discussions really have been about the area and various topics relating to it. Please overlook my earlier missal and feel free to continue with the historical use of this list. The real constraint would be that of preventing "flaming" and otherwise angry responses to one another. Thanks for allowing an old codger to make the occasional mistake even if he should know how to avoid doing so. Best wishes, Jim -----Original Message----- From: orcadia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:orcadia-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sutherland, Robert Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:11 PM To: orcadia@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ORCADIA] Admin Note RE: Ferries, Oil, and Fears.... I was under the impression that this was an Orkney oriented list. I thought there were other genealogy-limited lists for those who feel the need for that constraint. - Rob Sutherland

I guess the final point on this ferry service issue, is just how many out islanders heading to Kirkwall, actually take a car along. Then, how many of those cars are really needed? When the weather is bad, a car is a nice personal shelter. But loading a ferry with them has to be costly and somewhat restrictive as to volume/numbers on any given sailing. In our north, people have taken to little buggies which evolved from a sort of a cross between a golf cart and a AVT four wheel dirt bike. These things have room for two or four people, depending if they are the one or two seat model. They are enclosed, heated, and the seats afe comfortable with seat belts. They are available with a thrifty little diesel engine, and they will move along quite handily. These sorts of things didn't seem to be engaged much in Orkney, and I was wondering if that would change. To move people or a large grocery stock delivery, these things would be fine. They also have a little utility bed on the back, which is fine for equpment and heavier things. They cost a fraction of what a car does, and they serve the purpose better in some cases, especially in remote and rural areas where roads are not so good, or indeed non-esixtent. Farmers here love them for gdetting around their land, fixing fences, and checking livestock. I just don't understand what the qualifier is for deciding to take a car to Kirkwall to shop, if you live on another island. The world is backing off the oil consumption volumes. Looking at transportation values is a key point to using less fuel. Stephen

I agree Tuck. The fast boat is set up by and for the local community. It is possible to get out and back to most of the islands in a day but it can be a long journey AND you have to be over on the Mainland for the day. The fast passenger boat cuts out that need. One option which was under discussion for isles ferry replacements by the local authority was to run a faster passenger only service boat from Lyness, via Graemsay to Stromness, with a larger cargo ferry for trucks, cars, livestock etc being run less frequently. I suspect for various reasons, including funding, this won't happen. But it is recognised that thinking outside the box will be required in the future! Sian On 17/06/2010 04:33, Tuck wrote: > All, > > Karen wrote: "There was, I recall, a sailing where you could > >> connect from Rousay to Wyre and Egilsay. " Yes there was. I have >> taken it. >> > Seriously, a fast boat is a good idea, though it will almost certainly > be for convenience rather than necessity. And it won't replace the > RORO ferries. > > There is plane service to North Ronaldsay, which I have taken and > enjoyed, flying so low over the emerald green islands you can reach > down and grab a sheep. It's a wonderful way to see Orkney. > > In the end, the more means of travel the merrier. > > Tuck > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2941 - Release Date: 06/16/10 07:35:00 > >

I too am curious about "the values and amenities and lifestyle that keep you there." Anne just west of Philadelphia, PA On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:58 AM, stephen davie <stephen.davie@sympatico.ca>wrote: > > > I have read now for years your postings about your life where you > live, and I conclude that you wouldn't want to live anywhere else. > Makes me want to ask what the list entails, that encompasses the values and > ammenities and lifestyle that keep you there. >

Your isolation explains much about your insolence. You might want to read up on the Japanese and World War II to wipe away that feeling that you are so independent on your island there from the US. ----- Original Message ----- From: "stephen davie" <stephen.davie@sympatico.ca> To: <orcadia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [ORCADIA] New high speed ferry for Orkney > Sian: > > There is something unique about the sense of isolation one feels, > being on an island. As one who actually lives on an outer island in > Orkney, I wonder if you still feel that sense of being off on your > own. For a tourist visiting one of the smaller islands, the ferry > pulling away from the dock and abandoning them, is a subtle sort of > message to say that, "Well, you're going to be here for awhile!" And > "Don't even think about leaving until you see theferry back at the > dock." > > Here, on the Manitoulin, people find being an islander to be somewhat > unique. It is as if being on an island is rather like being a little > micro country, seperated by adjoining > territories by water. Some people refuse to leave for any reason. > There is an insular sense of security in living on an island. The > idea of living on one of the Orkney out islands, particularly in the > winter, makes me think that there must be almost a spiritual > attraction for those tucked away places, that you could only > understand by living there. > > I have read now for years your postings about your life where you > live, and I conclude that you wouldn't want to live anywhere else. > Makes me want to ask what the > list entails, that encompasses the values and ammenities and > lifestyle that keep you there. People lived on those incredible > islets long before there were engines, ferries, and tourists. When > they wern't involved in far away conflicts, or local ones, life was > good. > > I guess that fact is still unchanged. > > Cheers: > > Stepehn > On Jun 17, 2010, at 4:45 AM, Sian Thomas wrote: > >> Many folk move here for a "slower" pace of life, and many tourists >> visit >> for that reason. However for those of us that live and work here - >> sometimes time is of the essence ;-) >> >> Sian >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I agree Karen. The funding was raised by a local community development trust after a need was identified in the community. Quite often people may want to visit neighbouring isles to take part in activities, visit family etc. And not everyone takes their car to kirkwall every time they visit. There IS some resistance around to increasing links to the MAINLAND as some isles fear a loss of services. Indeed an Orcadian was telling me that before Westray had a daily ferry service, there were more services on the island, more builders and tradesmen etc. But now folk can travel to the isles to work the competition has reduced the number of local businesses. However Westry and other islands still manage very well. Someone asked about medical services on the isles - I'm not sure of the latest status. Stronsay were looking for a GP after theirs retired, and I think the same was true of some other Northern Isles in ORkney. The larger islands have a GP in resisdence, an a local nurse. Smaller populations may just have a nurse. On Graemsay we have neither, deemed too small a population and too close to the mainland. The local health authority has announced it will be recruiting MORE GPs for isles cover, altough with future cost-cutting likely I don't know if that will come about now. Local hospital isthe Balfour - small general hospital. No helicopter!! It's like a small community hospital - anything major and the Scottish Air Ambulance service fly up from South to air-lift passengers to Aberdeen, Edinburgh or Glasgow depending on the case. Very contentious issue in ORkney at the moment due to response times. If Air Ambulance unavailable then coast-guard will conduct medical evacuation. And I too hope this is a general discussion list - I believed te genealogy list was separate. Sian Graemsay Orkney On 17/06/2010 03:04, KJEMEM@aol.com wrote: > I believe the new boat was to be a trial. May or may not work but the > people who live on the islands wanted to try it. It can be a little > frustrating to see another island closer that the distance I go to the grocery and > not being able to get there without spending the day going, probably in to > Kirkwall and then back out, and then waiting several days for a trip back if > you want to do more than wave hello. You can go back and forth from > Kirkwall to Shapinsay all day. There was, I recall, a sailing where you could > connect from Rousay to Wyre and Egilsay. The northern isles would like a > connection to their neighbors too. When trying to fight declining population > and keep the island communities alive they should be able to try what they > want to build stronger communities. If you can take a bus from Kirkwall > to Stromness or Birsay why can't you get a boat from Westray to Sanday > without building one, buying one, or hitchhiking with a fisherman. All of these > are done of course, but a regularly scheduled boat licensed to carry foot > passengers is not unreasonable. Boat service should be seen as important to > small islands as roads and buses are to other areas. If the people who > live there want to try it, let them. Hope I get a chance to try it myself. > > Karen > > > > > In a message dated 6/16/2010 8:30:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > slater.anne@gmail.com writes: > > On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Tuck<tuck12@comcast.net> wrote: > > >> Anne, >> >> es not the Kirkwall Hospital have a helicopter for emergency >> airlifts? T he quotes I heard on the video clip were about football >> teams getting to matches, not appendectomies. >> >> > No idea, but I do know that helicopters are a heck of a lot more > expensive. > > >> Sure, having a fast boat is a good idea, but let's hope it doesn't >> spur so many more that the lovely slower ferries >> > You are definitely a romantic! ;+) > > >> are pinched out of >> business. Of course they won't be, since the small fast boats can't >> carry cars, cows, nor much else but people. >> >> > Exactly. There will always be a need for them > > >> As for the oil spill in the Gulf, it is a world problem, not a local >> one. And as for this link being only about genealogy, I never heard >> that and wouldn't be interested if it was so limited. >> >> > Yes. In fact when it started (under Sigurd) it was distinctly NOT for > genealogical questions... > Anyway, before fast boats and helicopters, I'd wager many a life or limb > was > lost if there was no doctor or nurse on the island-- does anyone know the > extent of medical coverage off the mainland? > Anne > > >> Tuck >> On Jun 16, 2010, at 9:13 PM, Slater Anne wrote: >> >> >>> Unless you're on Stronsay and need to have your appendix out NOW.... >>> >>> There's a time and place for everything, and I'll bet that the fare >>> for the >>> >> > high-speed passenger-only ferry will keep people from using it >> > frivolously. >> >>> Anne Slater >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Tuck<tuck12@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >> > >> >>>> I'd rather thought that the essence of Orkney was not about speed. >>>> >>>> >>>> Tuck >>>> >> >> On Jun 16, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Bruce Fletcher wrote: >> >> >> >>>>> You have to put up with an advert at the start of the clip! >>>>> <http://video.stv.tv/bc/news-070610-n1-ferry> >>>>> -- >>>>> Bruce Fletcher >>>>> Stronsay, Orkney >>>>> <http://claremont.islandblogging.co.uk> >>>>> >>>>> >> >>> ------------------------------- >> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> >>>> ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com >>>> >>>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>>>> the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> >> ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com >> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> >>> the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2941 - Release Date: 06/16/10 07:35:00 > >

Stephen's an idiot. I am likewise fed up with his perpetual, unfounded bashing of the United States. He's like the Unabomber, living in a small cabin in the woods, tossing grenades over the border from time to time to satisfy some grudge he has against an entire country. Granted an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. That was the problem in the Gulf. Stephen, why don't you direct that comment toward British Petroleum first, George Bush second, and then to Mr. Obama who has had his hands full with other problems created by the republicans and their disdain for regulation and for government in general. I congratulate the Canadians on their regulations as I understand they require oil companies to drill a second well at the time they drill the first. We are having to wait months for that, and it appears to be our only real hope in stopping this current problem. When I say we, I mostly mean BP. The US government is not in the business of drilling for oil or stopping leaks. As for your freedom, Stephen, you can thank the US for that. Your little cabin in the woods would belong to someone else if Canada had to depend on its own military to defend the country. Also, you can thank us for subsidizing your prescription drug prices as we have to pay the manufacturers more for the same drugs to make up for the discounts your government gets on them. ----- Original Message ----- From: "stephen davie" <stephen.davie@sympatico.ca> To: <orcadia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 11:27 PM Subject: [ORCADIA] Ferry Tales... An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, as > Mr. Obama is discovering. > > Nite all.....Stephen > > I am a Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship in my > own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I > believe wrong, or free to choose those who shall govern my country. > This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and all mankind." > - July 1, 1960. From the Canadian Bill of Rights.

Sian: There is something unique about the sense of isolation one feels, being on an island. As one who actually lives on an outer island in Orkney, I wonder if you still feel that sense of being off on your own. For a tourist visiting one of the smaller islands, the ferry pulling away from the dock and abandoning them, is a subtle sort of message to say that, "Well, you're going to be here for awhile!" And "Don't even think about leaving until you see theferry back at the dock." Here, on the Manitoulin, people find being an islander to be somewhat unique. It is as if being on an island is rather like being a little micro country, seperated by adjoining territories by water. Some people refuse to leave for any reason. There is an insular sense of security in living on an island. The idea of living on one of the Orkney out islands, particularly in the winter, makes me think that there must be almost a spiritual attraction for those tucked away places, that you could only understand by living there. I have read now for years your postings about your life where you live, and I conclude that you wouldn't want to live anywhere else. Makes me want to ask what the list entails, that encompasses the values and ammenities and lifestyle that keep you there. People lived on those incredible islets long before there were engines, ferries, and tourists. When they wern't involved in far away conflicts, or local ones, life was good. I guess that fact is still unchanged. Cheers: Stepehn On Jun 17, 2010, at 4:45 AM, Sian Thomas wrote: > Many folk move here for a "slower" pace of life, and many tourists > visit > for that reason. However for those of us that live and work here - > sometimes time is of the essence ;-) > > Sian >

I know when I joined this mailing list it was talking about Orkney and its history, and culture. That is specifically why I joined it because I was marry into an Orkney family and as an American knew nothing and wanted to learn with out having to ask questions all the time from my family. So if this list is going to go to just genealogy and I would like to know where you are getting this information, I would not be interested. My father in law was excellent when alive to doing the family genealogy and that would be the only thing I would be interested in. I like the discussion that are on here and would want them to continue. Ginger -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Jackson" <popsjackson@charter.net> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:51 AM To: <orcadia@rootsweb.com> Subject: [ORCADIA] Admin Note RE: Ferries, Oil, and Fears.... > Folks, > > This is a genealogically oriented mailing list and there is nothing > genealogical about this current discussion. The discussion is ended. As > administrator I will do whatever necessary to ensure that fact. > > Let's get back to genealogy, shall we? > > Thanks, > > Jim "Pops" Jackson > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'm sure that the Admin Note meant to remind us to refrain from making aspersions on people and countries, etc.. It is very likely that the Administrator administers to BOTh the Orkney(genealogy) list AND the ORCADIA (customs etc.) list. Rght? sue hamilton Maryland, USA ________________________________ From: "Sutherland, Robert" <robert.sutherland@uleth.ca> To: orcadia@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, June 16, 2010 9:11:07 PM Subject: Re: [ORCADIA] Admin Note RE: Ferries, Oil, and Fears.... I was under the impression that this was an Orkney oriented list. I thought there were other genealogy-limited lists for those who feel the need for that constraint. - Rob Sutherland On 2010-06-16, at 7:00 PM, Slater Anne wrote: > I thought it was Just-Orkney oriented. > If people really only want to do genealogy on this list serve, please let me > know. When I hear from enough people I'll decide whether to stay on or  not > Anne Slater. s. e. PA > > > On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Jim Jackson <popsjackson@charter.net>wrote: > >> Folks, >> >> This is a genealogically oriented mailing list and there is nothing >> genealogical about this current discussion.  The discussion is ended.  As >> administrator I will do whatever necessary to ensure that fact. >> >> Let's get back to genealogy, shall we? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jim "Pops" Jackson >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ******************************************** Robert James Sutherland, PhD Alberta Heritage Medical Scientist Director, Canadian Centre for Behavioural Neuroscience Professor, Dept of Neuroscience Univ of Lethbridge 4401 University Drive Lethbridge AB Canada T1K 3M4 Tel/Tél: 403-394-3987 Admin assistant: 403-394-3900 Fax/Télécopieur: 403-329-2775 E-mail/Courriel: robert.sutherland@uleth.ca ******************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The truth is, that from time to time, "scheduled" heavy costly boats move around with a very limited cargo, and the cost to move them is not warranted by the load revenue on some trips. It is like moving an empty train. The second issue is time and timing and the sometimes urgency thereof. To have a few high speed people movers of the inflatable hard bottom type, is just good common sense. They are incredibly sea worthy for their size, and they are efficient and quick. Take a look at what the rescue vessels are about, and the current type of lifeboats on large ships. They are also...FUN. Tourists like FUN!! I recall being in Kirkwall one June, on the waterfront, and a large seven story German tourist ship was overnighting off shore but in full view. The following saturday morning, they shuffled over two thousand tourists from that boat into Kirkwall, with grace and organization, and again quickly. It was an impressive feat. There is a retired ice breaker in Canada that circumnavigates Newfoundland with about 90 tourists. Each day they do a land-ho assault in these same type of inflatables, visiting quaint seaside ports. This sort of thing could evolve in Orkney. Ship to shore visitation by inflatable. The cost of these things is not excessive. They are a cinch to maintain. Often the engines are outboards, which means no motor repair downtime as a spare can be plopped on in about ten minutes. They don't consume much of that er....stuff....that is floating around in the Gulf of Mexico these days, and they provide a solid link to people on Orkney's out islands, for spontaneous trips, emergency backup, and special visitations by small groups. The Brits make these things, and are experts in the technology. Avon is a common Brit brand here amongst the yachties. I have spent a part of my life living on a property accessible only by boat. Our existence here in Canada involves Manitoulin Island for me and my family. We have only one ferry to the island which connects it to the south. The alternative is across a swing bridge, which takes you north, hundreds of miles in the wrong direction. The government here "study" these things to death before doing anything. There are thirty thousand islands in Georgian Bay where I live, and these hard bottomed inflatables are coming on like gangbusters. The government continues to study the issue. People running those incredible Orkney islands are amazingly clever and intuitive. They know indeed, what they are doing. This proven technology has a secure and productive spot in Orkney today. Orkney's new little boat addresses a niche, with a good budget number, and a variable application that covers a lot of bases. It improves the lives of those who live there, without emptying the sock. I am looking forward to hitching a ride or five, on this new type of Orkney fun boat transportation. It is a nice change to be close to the water and connected to the sea, instead of standing on tons and tons of quivering steel, reverberating to the rhythm of some massive pair of diesel oil guzzlers. Oh...and as to the genealogy point, this site when I joined many years ago, had but one restriction. That was that discussion regarding family research was limited to generalities, and that those type of specific name enquiries were to be the domain of the ancestral group at the Kirkwall library, who are only too keen to oblige root connectors. Searching your own family name was a no no on this site. If there was a change, I am not aware of it. One nice thing, Bruce's note woke up a few of the dozing adherents. Nice to see the juices flowing again. Bin a long dry spell. Bruce, thanks for the link. Take good care of Stronsqy. I guess some day somebody will confess that the oil blowout catastrophe in the Gulf, has raised questions about safety in the North Sea. That "ain't " a bad thing. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, as Mr. Obama is discovering. Nite all.....Stephen I am a Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, or free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and all mankind." - July 1, 1960. From the Canadian Bill of Rights.

All, Karen wrote: "There was, I recall, a sailing where you could > connect from Rousay to Wyre and Egilsay. " Yes there was. I have > taken it. Seriously, a fast boat is a good idea, though it will almost certainly be for convenience rather than necessity. And it won't replace the RORO ferries. There is plane service to North Ronaldsay, which I have taken and enjoyed, flying so low over the emerald green islands you can reach down and grab a sheep. It's a wonderful way to see Orkney. In the end, the more means of travel the merrier. Tuck

I thought in the beginning Orcadia-L was created to discuss Orkney culture, and Orkney-L was set up around that same time for sharing Orkney genealogy info. Sigurd Towrie and Ann Rendall created the lists for those specific purposes, I believe. That's what memory tells me, but of course I may be wrong. It was sometime back in the last century. Dick Taylor -----Original Message----- From: orcadia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:orcadia-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of KJEMEM@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:44 PM To: orcadia@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ORCADIA] Admin Note RE: Ferries, Oil, and Fears.... Also understood it to be about Orkney in general, and genealogy to be discussed separately. And, we've had a custom of new people introducing themselves Who are you??? Karen In a message dated 6/16/2010 7:51:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, popsjackson@charter.net writes: Folks, This is a genealogically oriented mailing list and there is nothing genealogical about this current discussion. The discussion is ended. As administrator I will do whatever necessary to ensure that fact. Let's get back to genealogy, shall we? Thanks, Jim "Pops" Jackson

Actually, as one who rarely posts but enjoys the reading, and has been on this list for many years, I can tell you that it was specifically NOT a genealogy list when it was set up. Go back and read early archives, if they are still around. Jeff Peck On 6/16/2010 5:51 PM, Jim Jackson wrote: > Folks, > > This is a genealogically oriented mailing list and there is nothing > genealogical about this current discussion. The discussion is ended. As > administrator I will do whatever necessary to ensure that fact. > > Let's get back to genealogy, shall we? > > Thanks, > > Jim "Pops" Jackson > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- We carry in our hearts the true country, and that cannot be broken. We travel in the steps of our ancestry, and that cannot be stolen.< "the Dead Heart" Midnight Oil>

I believe the new boat was to be a trial. May or may not work but the people who live on the islands wanted to try it. It can be a little frustrating to see another island closer that the distance I go to the grocery and not being able to get there without spending the day going, probably in to Kirkwall and then back out, and then waiting several days for a trip back if you want to do more than wave hello. You can go back and forth from Kirkwall to Shapinsay all day. There was, I recall, a sailing where you could connect from Rousay to Wyre and Egilsay. The northern isles would like a connection to their neighbors too. When trying to fight declining population and keep the island communities alive they should be able to try what they want to build stronger communities. If you can take a bus from Kirkwall to Stromness or Birsay why can't you get a boat from Westray to Sanday without building one, buying one, or hitchhiking with a fisherman. All of these are done of course, but a regularly scheduled boat licensed to carry foot passengers is not unreasonable. Boat service should be seen as important to small islands as roads and buses are to other areas. If the people who live there want to try it, let them. Hope I get a chance to try it myself. Karen In a message dated 6/16/2010 8:30:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, slater.anne@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Tuck <tuck12@comcast.net> wrote: > Anne, > > es not the Kirkwall Hospital have a helicopter for emergency > airlifts? T he quotes I heard on the video clip were about football > teams getting to matches, not appendectomies. > No idea, but I do know that helicopters are a heck of a lot more expensive. > > Sure, having a fast boat is a good idea, but let's hope it doesn't > spur so many more that the lovely slower ferries You are definitely a romantic! ;+) > are pinched out of > business. Of course they won't be, since the small fast boats can't > carry cars, cows, nor much else but people. > Exactly. There will always be a need for them > > As for the oil spill in the Gulf, it is a world problem, not a local > one. And as for this link being only about genealogy, I never heard > that and wouldn't be interested if it was so limited. > Yes. In fact when it started (under Sigurd) it was distinctly NOT for genealogical questions... Anyway, before fast boats and helicopters, I'd wager many a life or limb was lost if there was no doctor or nurse on the island-- does anyone know the extent of medical coverage off the mainland? Anne > > Tuck > On Jun 16, 2010, at 9:13 PM, Slater Anne wrote: > > > Unless you're on Stronsay and need to have your appendix out NOW.... > > > > There's a time and place for everything, and I'll bet that the fare > > for the > > high-speed passenger-only ferry will keep people from using it > > frivolously. > > Anne Slater > > > > On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Tuck <tuck12@comcast.net> wrote: > > > >> I'd rather thought that the essence of Orkney was not about speed. > >> > >> > >> Tuck > >> On Jun 16, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Bruce Fletcher wrote: > >> > >>> You have to put up with an advert at the start of the clip! > >>> <http://video.stv.tv/bc/news-070610-n1-ferry> > >>> -- > >>> Bruce Fletcher > >>> Stronsay, Orkney > >>> <http://claremont.islandblogging.co.uk> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com > >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > >>> the body of the message > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Also understood it to be about Orkney in general, and genealogy to be discussed separately. And, we've had a custom of new people introducing themselves Who are you??? Karen In a message dated 6/16/2010 7:51:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, popsjackson@charter.net writes: Folks, This is a genealogically oriented mailing list and there is nothing genealogical about this current discussion. The discussion is ended. As administrator I will do whatever necessary to ensure that fact. Let's get back to genealogy, shall we? Thanks, Jim "Pops" Jackson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anne, Does not the Kirkwall Hospital have a helicopter for emergency airlifts? T he quotes I heard on the video clip were about football teams getting to matches, not appendectomies. Sure, having a fast boat is a good idea, but let's hope it doesn't spur so many more that the lovely slower ferries are pinched out of business. Of course they won't be, since the small fast boats can't carry cars, cows, nor much else but people. As for the oil spill in the Gulf, it is a world problem, not a local one. And as for this link being only about genealogy, I never heard that and wouldn't be interested if it was so limited. Tuck On Jun 16, 2010, at 9:13 PM, Slater Anne wrote: > Unless you're on Stronsay and need to have your appendix out NOW.... > > There's a time and place for everything, and I'll bet that the fare > for the > high-speed passenger-only ferry will keep people from using it > frivolously. > Anne Slater > > On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Tuck <tuck12@comcast.net> wrote: > >> I'd rather thought that the essence of Orkney was not about speed. >> >> >> Tuck >> On Jun 16, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Bruce Fletcher wrote: >> >>> You have to put up with an advert at the start of the clip! >>> <http://video.stv.tv/bc/news-070610-n1-ferry> >>> -- >>> Bruce Fletcher >>> Stronsay, Orkney >>> <http://claremont.islandblogging.co.uk> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Tuck <tuck12@comcast.net> wrote: > Anne, > > Does not the Kirkwall Hospital have a helicopter for emergency > airlifts? T he quotes I heard on the video clip were about football > teams getting to matches, not appendectomies. > No idea, but I do know that helicopters are a heck of a lot more expensive. > > Sure, having a fast boat is a good idea, but let's hope it doesn't > spur so many more that the lovely slower ferries You are definitely a romantic! ;+) > are pinched out of > business. Of course they won't be, since the small fast boats can't > carry cars, cows, nor much else but people. > Exactly. There will always be a need for them > > As for the oil spill in the Gulf, it is a world problem, not a local > one. And as for this link being only about genealogy, I never heard > that and wouldn't be interested if it was so limited. > Yes. In fact when it started (under Sigurd) it was distinctly NOT for genealogical questions... Anyway, before fast boats and helicopters, I'd wager many a life or limb was lost if there was no doctor or nurse on the island-- does anyone know the extent of medical coverage off the mainland? Anne > > Tuck > On Jun 16, 2010, at 9:13 PM, Slater Anne wrote: > > > Unless you're on Stronsay and need to have your appendix out NOW.... > > > > There's a time and place for everything, and I'll bet that the fare > > for the > > high-speed passenger-only ferry will keep people from using it > > frivolously. > > Anne Slater > > > > On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Tuck <tuck12@comcast.net> wrote: > > > >> I'd rather thought that the essence of Orkney was not about speed. > >> > >> > >> Tuck > >> On Jun 16, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Bruce Fletcher wrote: > >> > >>> You have to put up with an advert at the start of the clip! > >>> <http://video.stv.tv/bc/news-070610-n1-ferry> > >>> -- > >>> Bruce Fletcher > >>> Stronsay, Orkney > >>> <http://claremont.islandblogging.co.uk> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com > >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > >>> the body of the message > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'd rather thought that the essence of Orkney was not about speed. Tuck On Jun 16, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Bruce Fletcher wrote: > You have to put up with an advert at the start of the clip! > <http://video.stv.tv/bc/news-070610-n1-ferry> > -- > Bruce Fletcher > Stronsay, Orkney > <http://claremont.islandblogging.co.uk> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ORCADIA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message