"A gal a day should be enough for any man." -- G. Marx Jim STRONSAY2@cs.com wrote: >My brother asks me to find out about "Gala Day". >I don't know where he heard of it, but he thinks it is related to some kind >of annual festivity in Orkney. I tried the web site search and had n o results. >Help! >Anne Slater, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania > > >==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the word >'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com > > > > >

this is what comes to my mind: "Twice each year, on Christmas Eve and Hogmanay, householders and shopkeepers along Kirkwall's winding main streets barricade doors and windows in preparation for the next day's traditional Ba' games. The Ba' is played on Christmas Day and New Year's Day every year." -- orkneyjar bill ----- Original Message ----- From: STRONSAY2@cs.com Date: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:03 am Subject: [<orcadia>] Gala Day? > My brother asks me to find out about "Gala Day". > I don't know where he heard of it, but he thinks it is related to > some kind > of annual festivity in Orkney. I tried the web site search and had > n o results. > Help! > Anne Slater, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with > the word > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com > >

I have neglected to report that I received my (handsome) copy of Fiona's book, Merrybegotten, her fictionalised account of her family in Orkney. I enjoyed it thoroughly: well framed and written, thankfully a glossary (although I needed it less than I had anticipated) ,interesting tidbits of 19th/early 20th century daily culture and social reality, nicely developed characters. A good read altogether: well done, Fiona! ************* I have a window sticker from The Orcadian in my car. A neighbor saw it and reported that she had a friend who had Orkney connections (or perhaps just affection): we are everywhere!

My brother asks me to find out about "Gala Day". I don't know where he heard of it, but he thinks it is related to some kind of annual festivity in Orkney. I tried the web site search and had n o results. Help! Anne Slater, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

In the absence of any cudd fodder of late from this our usual source of consistent joy, I thought I would point out to all you Orkney/Canadians (Canorkies) and otherwise hockey affectinados (including Americans who have established some limited interest in the game), that there was considerable research concluded on the heritage of the individual players who made up our undefeated Canadian World Champion Team. It is my own logical conclusion that they could never have won without bearing the well disguised genes of early Viking Orcadian pioneers, passed down to in fact several of the amazing champions. Check it out! Also, it is evident that the French Canadians on our team relied heavily on skills inherited from their voyageur ancestors, skills learned again from our Viking islander forefathers and passed along in those olden days, to the other French ancestors, cheerfully and willingly of course. Skating with a puck through aggressive burly defense players, is a simulation of shooting rapids wherein you must skillfully on a split second decision, skirt around a rock, or suffer the consequences of a tumble, loss and humiliation. Shooting a puck at a goal is in fact a simulation of firing a ball from a black powder muzzleloader at a goose from a moving canoe. In truth, reading Hudson Bay by Ballentyne (1850), I see that skating was in fact a common winter pass time till the snow was too deep. It was likely the site of the first Canandian championship game. Natives love the game and two of our local NHL heros, Darcy Turker and Shane Corson, both are Metis. (truth, honest.) When you get into this, the parallels and conclusions are obvious. A hockey stick is in fact simply a modified paddle. The net of the goal was designed originally from snowshoe netting of open braided leather. The original puck was an empty Highland Park bottle because they slid so well on the ice. the famous "Ba" in Kirkwall is based on a lot of the same principles. Makes me think Orkney should field a hockey team for the next world matchup. We also squeaked out a gold in a canoe race. That too should be a natural for Orkney, according to the countless journals of history that underline that irrefutable fact. Not a crazy notion when you consider that the runner up was Finland! Stephen (Canorky)

I'll send you a message! I spent 6 weeks in Orkney, got home last night. Fantastic! my 4th trip. Marion - American Orcadian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Irvine" <wji@shaw.ca> To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 2:08 PM Subject: [<orcadia>] rootsweb > "If you haven't heard a rumour by ten o'clock start one." > i haven't received an orcadia-L+rootsweb.com message since tuesday so i'll post one > roots-L(at)rootsweb.com has an online archive of all messages > i found the Orcadia online achiives at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ORCADIA.html > thnx > bill canadian orcadian > > > Bill Irvine > alternate email: wji@islandnet.com > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the word > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com > >

well, that's mighty generous of ya, maam ;-) goodonya for 6-in-O (six in oh) six-weeks in O rkney i got my forum-fix after finding the online archives previously noted there's also an Orkney-L (and -D) email group and archive after searching Orcadia-L 2000 C.E., i found some templar info Search: Kirkwall and the Holy Grail thnx again for your post and hope to read all about your journey bill my 1995 Orkney journey: http://www.geocities.com/wjis21/irvinesinorkney/scotland.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Marion <marion@pivot.net> Date: Thursday, September 16, 2004 11:34 am Subject: Re: [<orcadia>] rootsweb > I'll send you a message! > I spent 6 weeks in Orkney, got home last night. Fantastic! my > 4th trip. > Marion - American Orcadian > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Irvine" <wji@shaw.ca> > To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 2:08 PM > Subject: [<orcadia>] rootsweb > > > > "If you haven't heard a rumour by ten o'clock start one." > > i haven't received an orcadia-L+rootsweb.com message since > tuesday so i'll > post one > > roots-L(at)rootsweb.com has an online archive of all messages > > i found the Orcadia online achiives at > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ORCADIA.html > > thnx > > bill canadian orcadian > > > > > > Bill Irvine > > alternate email: wji@islandnet.com > > > > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail > with the word > > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with > the word > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com > >

>>6 weeks, I'm envious. Tell us about it. Kathy I am new to the list, and have never been to Orkney, but I sure am fascinated by it and would also love to hear of Marion's 6-weeks spent there as a 4th trip, no less. Helga

6 weeks, I'm envious. Tell us about it. Kathy --- Marion <marion@pivot.net> wrote: > I'll send you a message! > I spent 6 weeks in Orkney, got home last night. > Fantastic! my 4th trip. > Marion - American Orcadian > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Irvine" <wji@shaw.ca> > To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 2:08 PM > Subject: [<orcadia>] rootsweb > > > > "If you haven't heard a rumour by ten o'clock > start one." > > i haven't received an orcadia-L+rootsweb.com > message since tuesday so i'll > post one > > roots-L(at)rootsweb.com has an online archive of > all messages > > i found the Orcadia online achiives at > > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ORCADIA.html > > thnx > > bill canadian orcadian > > > > > > Bill Irvine > > alternate email: wji@islandnet.com > > > > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send > an e-mail with the word > > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to > orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send > an e-mail with the word > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to > orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com > > _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com

"If you haven't heard a rumour by ten o'clock start one." i haven't received an orcadia-L+rootsweb.com message since tuesday so i'll post one roots-L(at)rootsweb.com has an online archive of all messages i found the Orcadia online achiives at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ORCADIA.html thnx bill canadian orcadian Bill Irvine alternate email: wji@islandnet.com

Hello Bill! What are you talking about ...? A medieval order of chivalry/knighthood like Knights Templar or about IOGT founded in the early days of the 19th century in Fayetteville? At the times of Washington Irving there definitely were no Knights Templar anymore but he or his father or both might have been members of IOGT - as might have been Dr. J. Rae (not really unusual for a physichian of his days). The question is quite simple: Did he fight against muslims and other enimies of the holy Roman church or did he fight against drugs and drinks (although IOGT is somehowe based in the free religious ideas of freemasonry) ...? cu Wolfgang

In a message dated 9/13/04 6:36:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lisjardine@msn.com writes: > how can your grandfather have been a Knight's Templar when the order was > destroyed in early 14th c. Sorry, sorry, :+( That's what I was led to believe growing up when I saw pictures of him in his regalia, when I showed his ornate watch fob 9definitely NOT Masonic) to someone... Shoulda kept my mouth shut

On page 214 of`Andrew Sinclair's "The Sword and the Grail," he says "A. Bothwell-Gosse, a mason of the Eighteenth grade, published the invaluable 'The Knights Templar' (London, 1912). The Scottish Templars still exist, and some of their lodges admit women. The author is expert in her knowledge of masonic tradition in Scotland and Templar symbolism and vocabulary."

that's what i'm trying to find out i remember reading an article regarding the position of John Rae's effigy in St. Magnus Cathedral is consistent with that of Templar ritual (see Temple Church, London) also, see p.353 (Chapter 85), Da Vinci Code http://www.templechurch.com/pages/history/church/churchhistory1.htm Washington Irving (father born Shapinsay) was a Knight Templar every gravestone moved inside St. Magnus Cathedaral (still there today lining the naive walls) are of Knights Templar and have the Skull of Sion and the Golden Rectangle (phi) prominently displayed on them thnx for your interest bill p.s. my grandfather and g.grandfather were members of Independant Order of Good Templars (IOGT) Lodge #3, ca. 1880 ----- Original Message ----- From: STRONSAY2@cs.com Date: Monday, September 13, 2004 12:49 pm Subject: RE: [<orcadia>] Dr. John Rae > Bill Irvine <wji@shaw.ca> wrote: > >p.s. do you know where information can be obtain re: Rae's > association with the Knights Templar? The prone position of Rae's > effigy in St. Magnus indicates this. > > My g-grandfather, Peter Watt, of Stronsay, was a member of > Kknights Templar. > What is the Orkney connection? IS there one? > Anne near Philadelphia PA > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with > the word > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com > >

Bill Irvine <wji@shaw.ca> wrote: >p.s. do you know where information can be obtain re: Rae's association with the Knights Templar? The prone position of Rae's effigy in St. Magnus indicates this. My g-grandfather, Peter Watt, of Stronsay, was a member of Kknights Templar. What is the Orkney connection? IS there one? Anne near Philadelphia PA

Dear grand-daughter of Peter Watt, how can your grandfather have been a Knight's Templar when the order was destroyed in early 14th c. by King Philip IV of France? See, Alain Demurger, The Last Templer? Lisbeth Jardine ----- Original Message ----- From: <STRONSAY2@cs.com> To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 12:49 PM Subject: RE: [<orcadia>] Dr. John Rae > Bill Irvine <wji@shaw.ca> wrote: >>p.s. do you know where information can be obtain re: Rae's association with the Knights Templar? The prone position of Rae's effigy in St. Magnus indicates this. > > My g-grandfather, Peter Watt, of Stronsay, was a member of Kknights Templar. > What is the Orkney connection? IS there one? > Anne near Philadelphia PA > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the word > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com > >

sigurd, http://www.orkneyjar.com/history/historicalfigures/johnrae/ i think it would be hlepful to have a link such as this from Dr. John Rae's page http://nebula.on.ca/hamiltonassoc/jr_intro.htm or directly suggest reading Fatal Passage thnx bill p.s. do you know where information can be obtain re: Rae's association with the Knights Templar? The prone position of Rae's effigy in St. Magnus indicates this.

Not to mention thoses Sassenachs... Charlie from Port Townsend ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Irvine" <wji@shaw.ca> To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [<orcadia>] introduce myself

Hi Vanya! Charlie ----- Original Message ----- From: "vanya tucherov" <avarielelf@avarielelf.com> To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [<orcadia>] introduce myself > On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 21:07:26 -0700, Charlie Petersen <charliep@olypen.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Lisbeth - >> I'm your neighbor in Port Townsend, what a way to meet! >> Charlie Anne Petersen >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisbeth Jardine" <lisjardine@msn.com> >> To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 1:28 PM >> Subject: [<orcadia>] introduce myself >> >> >>> Hello, my name is Lisbeth Jardine. I live in Port Angeles, Washington, >>> U.S.A., just 17 miles across the Strait of Juan da Fuca from Victoria, >>> B.C. > > -- And i'd be both of your urban neighbour, vanya. I live in Seattle, > after several years residence in Skagit Valley and commuting into the city > to work. Like you, Lisbeth, Victoria is a compelling place for my family. > ;-) > > -vanya > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the word > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com >

Lisbeth, so as not to bore everyone, let's correspond by our own email addresses (off-list), okay? I want to hear more about your book. Charlie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisbeth Jardine" <lisjardine@msn.com> To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [<orcadia>] introduce myself > Indeed! I presume "Charlie Anne" is female? But it's not entirely > strange. A couple of months ago I wrote to editor of Al Ahram, an online > newspaper from Cairo, Egypt, thanking them for publishing an article by > Adonis, a Syrian poet who's been nominated for Nobel in Literature, on > what Iraq mess is about. They published my little letter on-line, > and --this is the kicker-- the letter above mine was from someone from > Sequim (altho' I couldn't find his name in phone book--but then, I'm > unlisted as well). When I moved to P.A. two years ago, I had thought > about P.T., but I hate tourists. I had a friend a few years back who > lived in P.T. and had visited several times. I'm not utterly enamored of > P.A., but I had thought I was going to have to end up in Aberdeen or some > such, and I'm glad I didn't. Back in April, I had an article in the > "Vigilance": Homosexual Cheeseburgers (not my title). Sometimes when I > see all that goes on in P.T., I sort of wish I hadn't decided on P.! > A., but c'est la vie. Actually, I'm starting to set my sites on Victoria, > BC, as a compromise btw. Seattle, Vancouver, BC, and rather limited > (intellectual resources wise) P.A. > > So, tell me a little about you, please. > > Lisbeth Jardine > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charlie Petersen" <charliep@olypen.com> > To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 9:07 PM > Subject: Re: [<orcadia>] introduce myself > > >> Hi Lisbeth - >> I'm your neighbor in Port Townsend, what a way to meet! >> Charlie Anne Petersen >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lisbeth Jardine" <lisjardine@msn.com> >> To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 1:28 PM >> Subject: [<orcadia>] introduce myself >> >> >>> Hello, my name is Lisbeth Jardine. I live in Port Angeles, Washington, >>> U.S.A., just 17 miles across the Strait of Juan da Fuca from Victoria, >>> B.C. >>> >>> My interest in the Orkney Islands has to do with a novel I've written >>> and >>> hoping might be published fairly soon. It's called The Female Creature. >>> It's about the 2nd, the female creature, Victor Frankenstein, on one of >>> the smallest and most remote of Orkney skars--some "five miles from the >>> mainland" Mary Shelley wrote (and anyone who's got a good guess of which >>> of Orkney's she may have had in mind is most welcome to get in contact >>> with me; the question is "did she mean the mainland of Scotland or the >>> Orkney "Mainland"?)--nearly completed the female creature and then >>> fearing >>> that "future generations will think of me as a pest," tore her apart, >>> put >>> the parts into a giant Orcadian basket (that's my addition), put the >>> basket into his skiff, sailed out into the North Sea, dropped the basket >>> overboard, and sailed away from that spot. At any rate, to write the >>> story of what happens after that, I've had to do a fair amount of >>> research >>> on the Orkney Islands. And the Creature, at t! >>> he end of Frankenstein is not dead. Girl + boy = gotta meet. >>> >>> Lisbeth Jardine >>> >>> >>> ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== >>> To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the >>> word >>> 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com >>> >> >> >> ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== >> To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the >> word >> 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com >> >> > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the word > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com >