Hi- Several cooknooks I have list Clapshot- neeps & tatties- as an Orkney dish. I've looked in the OED for an etymology of "clapshot" but not there and I can't find any reference to it in other cookbooks. Any ideas 1/ why it's considered Orcadian (as opposed to say Northern Scotland-it's listed in some cookbooks as a "Scottish" dish- but the Orkney recipes -I checked 3- all call for a pinch of nutmeg or mace) 2/ where does the word come from ? Thanks Thompson in Prince Edward Island, Canada, full of clapshot

In my v. basic Norwegian-English dictionary, I notice that the word for "sticky snow" is klabbeforel, klabbe meaning "cloggy" as in "clabber", I would presume? LJardine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dutch Thompson" <dutchink@isn.net> To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 3:06 PM Subject: [<orcadia>] Clapshot > Hi- > Several cooknooks I have list Clapshot- neeps & tatties- as an Orkney dish. > I've looked in the OED for an etymology of "clapshot" but not there and I can't find any reference to it in other cookbooks. > Any ideas 1/ why it's considered Orcadian (as opposed to say Northern Scotland-it's listed in some cookbooks as a "Scottish" dish- but the Orkney recipes -I checked 3- all call for a pinch of nutmeg or mace) > 2/ where does the word come from ? > > Thanks > Thompson in Prince Edward Island, Canada, full of clapshot > > > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the word > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com > >

Try this site: http://www.orcadian.co.uk/features/cooking/archive27.htm LJardine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dutch Thompson" <dutchink@isn.net> To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 3:06 PM Subject: [<orcadia>] Clapshot > Hi- > Several cooknooks I have list Clapshot- neeps & tatties- as an Orkney > dish. > I've looked in the OED for an etymology of "clapshot" but not there and I > can't find any reference to it in other cookbooks. > Any ideas 1/ why it's considered Orcadian (as opposed to say Northern > Scotland-it's listed in some cookbooks as a "Scottish" dish- but the > Orkney recipes -I checked 3- all call for a pinch of nutmeg or mace) > 2/ where does the word come from ? > > Thanks > Thompson in Prince Edward Island, Canada, full of clapshot > > > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the word > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com > >

On 19 September 2004 17:26, Lisa Conrad wrote: > Thanks, Charlie! > I am sure it's not 'Waaness'... > > Swanness/Swaness seems to start showing up about mid-1870s > into the turn of the 20th c. It's almost certainly the Swannies shown on current Ordnance Survey maps. The original would have been Swaness - possibly relating to the personal name Sweyn and the Old Norse "nes" - i.e. Sweyn's Headland (now found on the maps as Swannies Point) - or possibly even relates to the ocean swell (pronounced Swaall here). However, the possibility also remains that, if it is a fairly recent building, which your research seems to imply, it might simply have been referred to as the land of the Swanney family i.e. Swanney's. Any idea of the family living there at the first mentions? A classic example of census/mapmaker mis-transcribing an Orcadian placename. -- Sigurd Towrie Blackhall - Kirbister - Stromness - Orkney Heritage of Orkney: www.orkneyjar.com Home: sigurd@orkneyjar.com Work: sigurd.towrie@orcadian.co.uk

Apologies all for that last: I meant to reply to Bruce only... I was offended by an ex- spouse once so I gave our grandchild drums and a tin whistle for Christmas..... It didn't particularly work, but it felt good....

In a message dated 9/19/04 10:04:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, claremont@stronsay.co.uk writes: > "If thine enemy offend thee, give unto his child a drum" >

There is a Waaness in Burray, and if you want to see it or indeed stay in it visit www.waaness.com, as it is now a B&B. Cheers Steven ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Conrad" <nisus00@earthlink.net> To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 4:46 AM Subject: [<orcadia>] Burray > > Would anyone know the modern day spelling of "Swanness" or "Swaness" on > Burray? > > > Would it be the "Swannies" I see on my map? > > > Thanks! > Lisa. > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the word > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com >

ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com writes: >Em, Bruce - I think the fete in June is it. Just checked the list archives >and *you* posted on 15th June saying "Stronsay Gala was held on the >afternoon of Sat 12 Jun..." Oh dear, yet another 'senior moment'. Bruce Fletcher Stronsay, Orkney http://www.stronsay.co.uk/claremont http://www.caytonwitheastfield.btinternet.co.uk "If thine enemy offend thee, give unto his child a drum"

> There is a fete in June and a raft race in August but I'm not aware of a > Gala Day. Mind you, we've only lived here for six months. > Bruce Fletcher > Stronsay, Orkney Em, Bruce - I think the fete in June is it. Just checked the list archives and *you* posted on 15th June saying "Stronsay Gala was held on the afternoon of Sat 12 Jun..." Fiona Orkney

> My brother says he heard/read of a Gala Day that was Stronsay-specific. > Can someone with close Stronsay ties clarify? > Anne in Pennsylvania Stronsay has a gala day. It was 12th June this year. I don't really know what goes on at it - at a guess stalls, raffles, pipe band, vintage rally, maybe fancy dress competitions for the kids and races/competitions? Hopefully someone from Stronsay will be able to let you have a fuller answer. Fiona Orkney

ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com writes: >My brother says he heard/read of a Gala Day that was Stronsay-specific. >Can someone with close Stronsay ties clarify? >Anne in Pennsylvania There is a fete in June and a raft race in August but I'm not aware of a Gala Day. Mind you, we've only lived here for six months. Bruce Fletcher Stronsay, Orkney http://www.stronsay.co.uk/claremont http://www.caytonwitheastfield.btinternet.co.uk "Dogs have owners, cats have staff"

Thanks, Charlie! I am sure it's not 'Waaness'... Swanness/Swaness seems to start showing up about mid-1870s into the turn of the 20th c. I have several maps as well... but I just want to be sure, if possible. Thought someone might know. Right now I am leaning toward it being "Swannies" (my current map). Lisa {> on 9/19/04 9:12 AM <} - Charlie Petersen wrote -- Hi Lisa! I know of a Waaness on Burray -... Cheers - Charlie in Port Townsend

Hi Lisa! I know of a Waaness on Burray - owner is Alan Wallbank, a bit of a history buff. They have a website, I think it is www.waaness.com or just do a search. He has all the ordinance maps, new & old, was able to find our family's original property on Burray, "Gallowhill." By the way, I did find very creative spelling by some of the census takers in the 1800s - so see if the same people go from year to year (ie 1841, 1851, 1861 etc) regardless of the spelling of the property. I got some help there from the family history center in Kirkwall. They knew the locations pretty well. Cheers - Charlie in Port Townsend

In a message dated 9/19/04 7:23:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, fiona@deerness.com writes: > I think the fete in June is it. Just checked the list archives > and *you* posted on 15th June saying "Stronsay Gala was held on the > afternoon of Sat 12 Jun. thanks, Fiona: that is a big help! Would you describe the events of the day? is there music, dancing, races and games? Is it more a neighborhood thing, or do outsiders come to participate? Anne

In a message dated 9/19/04 7:01:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, claremont@stronsay.co.uk writes: > > There is a fete in June and a raft race in August but I'm not aware of a > Gala Day. Mind you, we've only lived here for six months. > Bruce Fletcher > Stronsay, Orkney > http://www.stronsay.co.uk/claremont > http://www.caytonwitheastfield.btinternet.co.uk > "Dogs have owners, cats have staff"

My brother says he heard/read of a Gala Day that was Stronsay-specific. Can someone with close Stronsay ties clarify? Anne in Pennsylvania

What a lovely report, Anne - thank you!! I too have had an Orkney sticker on my car for 2 years now - but am still hoping someone will comment... Fiona (York UK) >From: STRONSAY2@cs.com >Reply-To: ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com >To: ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [<orcadia>] Merrybegotten >Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 06:10:29 EDT > >I have neglected to report that I received my (handsome) copy of Fiona's >book, Merrybegotten, her fictionalised account of her family in Orkney. I >enjoyed >it thoroughly: well framed and written, thankfully a glossary (although I >needed it less than I had anticipated) ,interesting tidbits of 19th/early >20th >century daily culture and social reality, nicely developed characters. A >good >read altogether: well done, Fiona! >************* >I have a window sticker from The Orcadian in my car. A neighbor saw it and >reported that she had a friend who had Orkney connections (or perhaps just >affection): we are everywhere! > > >==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the word >'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com > _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

Would anyone know the modern day spelling of "Swanness" or "Swaness" on Burray? Would it be the "Swannies" I see on my map? Thanks! Lisa.

My wife has had a BIRSAY license plate for several years in California, and only twice has it been recognized -- once by a man who was in the armed forces there during WW 2; and once by a tree surgeon from Ojai, CA, who happens to be a son of the bookseller in Stromness and who flagged us down as we drove through that small California town. Jim > I too have had an Orkney sticker on my car for 2 years now - but am > still hoping someone will comment... > Fiona (York UK)

On 18 September 2004 11:03, STRONSAY2@cs.com wrote: > My brother asks me to find out about "Gala Day". > I don't know where he heard of it, but he thinks it is related to > some kind of annual festivity in Orkney. I tried the web site search > and had n o results. Help! Probably the Firth Gala Day - held in Finstown in the summertime. -- Sigurd Towrie Blackhall - Kirbister - Stromness - Orkney Heritage of Orkney: www.orkneyjar.com Home: sigurd@orkneyjar.com Work: sigurd.towrie@orcadian.co.uk