To those who replied - thanks for your help regarding a recipe for stovies. I was hoping there would be an Orcadian version but my grandmothers family came from Edinburgh so will try for that and there is certainly lots of selection on google!

---------- >From: "pat" <orkney48@monarch.net> >To: ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [<orcadia>] Stovies >Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 3:26 AM > > stovies - a potato dish also, with onions and cooked in milk as I remember My granny ,whose mother grew up on Orkney, called these 'stewed tatties'. Margaret

There are many versions of Stovies, with differences amongst certain areas. For example, those prepared in Aberdeen, are served with oatcakes. As there are many variants on these recipes, a Google search will give a few. I have not ever seen any special Orcadian version as such. Yours, Geoffrey Elborn

Pat: If you google stovies + recipe, some 1,060 entries are found. Take your pick of hits. Lisbeth Jardine ----- Original Message ----- From: "pat" <orkney48@monarch.net> To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 10:26 AM Subject: [<orcadia>] Stovies > After reading about clapshot (which I still also make) I was wondering if anyone had a recipe as such for stovies - a potato dish also, with onions and cooked in milk as I remember. My Orcadian grandmother always cooked it on 'wash day' and put it on in the morning and let it cook most of the day. Pat in Terrace, B.C. > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the word > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com > >

After reading about clapshot (which I still also make) I was wondering if anyone had a recipe as such for stovies - a potato dish also, with onions and cooked in milk as I remember. My Orcadian grandmother always cooked it on 'wash day' and put it on in the morning and let it cook most of the day. Pat in Terrace, B.C.

Ahhh. If flowers it is, I'm sure they will eviscerate all the options. Actually, it is a very meaningful idea. But oh how this foreigner enjoys the photos on the sites of the seals. On Tuesday, September 21, 2004, at 03:12 PM, Sigurd Towrie wrote: > On 22 September 2004 02:00, stephen davie wrote: > >> Why not a critter instead of a plant? Just > > Simply because this a national initiative looking to raise awareness of > wildflowers. > > We're not looking for an emblem. The organisers just asked the powers > that > be to suggest one for their campaign. > > Whatever they agree on in the end, its unlikely to have much impact on > the > man in the street. > > -- > Sigurd Towrie > Blackhall - Kirbister - Stromness - Orkney > Heritage of Orkney: www.orkneyjar.com > Home: sigurd@orkneyjar.com > Work: sigurd.towrie@orcadian.co.uk > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the > word > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com >

Hi, Are there otters there? I was raised with the otters in the burn. I miss them so. When you're a child,, seems the precious creatures no not a bit of fear and are quite bold and loving and amusing. I would cast a vote for otters!! Keeliey O'Hara lerinkeeliey@earthlink.net

Having just eaten some clapshot (for breakfast no less !), this descritive etymology certainly is on taregt ! cheers Thompson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sigurd Towrie" <sigurd@orkneyjar.com> To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 6:31 PM Subject: RE: [<orcadia>] Clapshot > On 20 September 2004 23:27, Lisbeth Jardine wrote: > >> In my v. basic Norwegian-English dictionary, I notice that >> the word for "sticky snow" is klabbeforel, klabbe meaning >> "cloggy" as in "clabber", I would presume? > > It's probably related to this word indeed. Claphsot is likely to be a > combination of two dialect words - "klepp" meaning a "sticky, soft lump" > and > "shoddo" meaning "a large lump" of something. > > -- > Sigurd Towrie > Blackhall - Kirbister - Stromness - Orkney > Heritage of Orkney: www.orkneyjar.com > Home: sigurd@orkneyjar.com > Work: sigurd.towrie@orcadian.co.uk > > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the word > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com >

How about bere, the magic staple that gifts us binnocks and home brew? Now that is a worthy plant. Or the potato, the magic staple that gifts us vodka and crisps? And great childhood fun with spud guns, which would coincide with the annual fad of pea shooters, which actually involved spraying slavery barley out of an empty Bic biro. Barley bought from one of the vans, such as Baikie's, Groundwater's, Tom Notman's, or Charles T Stewart's. Great times. I'm just away to stick football cards in the spokes of my bike by clipping them to the frame with a clothes peg, to get 'a ker soond'. I digress. Steven ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sigurd Towrie" <sigurd@orkneyjar.com> To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 11:12 PM Subject: RE: [<orcadia>] RE: Orkney emblem > On 22 September 2004 02:00, stephen davie wrote: > > > Why not a critter instead of a plant? Just > > Simply because this a national initiative looking to raise awareness of > wildflowers. > > We're not looking for an emblem. The organisers just asked the powers that > be to suggest one for their campaign. > > Whatever they agree on in the end, its unlikely to have much impact on the > man in the street. > > -- > Sigurd Towrie > Blackhall - Kirbister - Stromness - Orkney > Heritage of Orkney: www.orkneyjar.com > Home: sigurd@orkneyjar.com > Work: sigurd.towrie@orcadian.co.uk > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the word > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com >

... well then, but remembering the Dounby road, The Loons, Mill Loch/Shapinsay, the slopes west or east of Westness House/Rousay or the little loch north of London Airport/Eday etc. ... it might fit ... :-)

On 22 September 2004 02:00, stephen davie wrote: > Why not a critter instead of a plant? Just Simply because this a national initiative looking to raise awareness of wildflowers. We're not looking for an emblem. The organisers just asked the powers that be to suggest one for their campaign. Whatever they agree on in the end, its unlikely to have much impact on the man in the street. -- Sigurd Towrie Blackhall - Kirbister - Stromness - Orkney Heritage of Orkney: www.orkneyjar.com Home: sigurd@orkneyjar.com Work: sigurd.towrie@orcadian.co.uk

On 21 September 2004 16:53, Wolfgang Schlick wrote: >>>> Proposals to adopt the Alpine bearberry as an official Orkney >>>> emblem, met with a resounding "no" today, as islands' councillors >>>> halted the idea in its tracks. (Orcadian today) > > Sorry, I always thought that Orkney has the yellow flags > (plants, not the red crossed yellow flag :-) ) ... or was it > just GMB's idea, who told me about that years ago ??? This is a scheme dreamt up by a Wildflower preservation organisation, looking to have every county in Britain adopt a plant as an "emblem". I'm not sure of exact details, but the obvious choice of the Primula Scotica, has already been "registered" by Caithness, so Orkney cant use it. -- Sigurd Towrie Blackhall - Kirbister - Stromness - Orkney Heritage of Orkney: www.orkneyjar.com Home: sigurd@orkneyjar.com Work: sigurd.towrie@orcadian.co.uk

On 21 September 2004 22:36, steven@kw15.co.uk wrote: > You know it all makes sense. Indeed. And thankfully our councillors saw sense today too. I don't even know what Alpine bearberry is! -- Sigurd Towrie Blackhall - Kirbister - Stromness - Orkney Heritage of Orkney: www.orkneyjar.com Home: sigurd@orkneyjar.com Work: sigurd.towrie@orcadian.co.uk

I propose to start a campaign on Orkneycommunities.co.uk to have pampas grass as the Orkney emblem, because every garden here seems to have a thriving clump of it. Then I propose to have Stromness twinned with Macchu Piccu (or Wick), and have Beyonce Knowles as the official bird of Orkney. You know it all makes sense. Steven ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sigurd Towrie" <sigurd@orkneyjar.com> To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 10:33 PM Subject: [<orcadia>] RE: Orkney emblem > On 21 September 2004 16:53, Wolfgang Schlick wrote: > > >>>> Proposals to adopt the Alpine bearberry as an official Orkney > >>>> emblem, met with a resounding "no" today, as islands' councillors > >>>> halted the idea in its tracks. (Orcadian today) > > > > Sorry, I always thought that Orkney has the yellow flags > > (plants, not the red crossed yellow flag :-) ) ... or was it > > just GMB's idea, who told me about that years ago ??? > > This is a scheme dreamt up by a Wildflower preservation organisation, > looking to have every county in Britain adopt a plant as an "emblem". > > I'm not sure of exact details, but the obvious choice of the Primula > Scotica, has already been "registered" by Caithness, so Orkney cant use it. > -- > Sigurd Towrie > Blackhall - Kirbister - Stromness - Orkney > Heritage of Orkney: www.orkneyjar.com > Home: sigurd@orkneyjar.com > Work: sigurd.towrie@orcadian.co.uk > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the word > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com >

On 21 September 2004 16:53, Wolfgang Schlick wrote: >>>> Proposals to adopt the Alpine bearberry as an official Orkney >>>> emblem, met with a resounding "no" today, as islands' councillors >>>> halted the idea in its tracks. (Orcadian today) > > Sorry, I always thought that Orkney has the yellow flags > (plants, not the red crossed yellow flag :-) ) ... or was it > just GMB's idea, who told me about that years ago ??? This is a scheme dreamt up by a Wildflower preservation organisation, looking to have every county in Britain adopt a plant as an "emblem". I'm not sure of exact details, but the obvious choice of the Primula Scotica, has already been "registered" by Caithness, so Orkney cant use it. -- Sigurd Towrie Blackhall - Kirbister - Stromness - Orkney Heritage of Orkney: www.orkneyjar.com Home: sigurd@orkneyjar.com Work: sigurd.towrie@orcadian.co.uk

On 20 September 2004 23:27, Lisbeth Jardine wrote: > In my v. basic Norwegian-English dictionary, I notice that > the word for "sticky snow" is klabbeforel, klabbe meaning > "cloggy" as in "clabber", I would presume? It's probably related to this word indeed. Claphsot is likely to be a combination of two dialect words - "klepp" meaning a "sticky, soft lump" and "shoddo" meaning "a large lump" of something. -- Sigurd Towrie Blackhall - Kirbister - Stromness - Orkney Heritage of Orkney: www.orkneyjar.com Home: sigurd@orkneyjar.com Work: sigurd.towrie@orcadian.co.uk

Bearberry is a common native remedy and grows in this part of Canada in the wild and profusely. On Tuesday, September 21, 2004, at 02:48 PM, Sigurd Towrie wrote: > On 21 September 2004 22:36, steven@kw15.co.uk wrote: > >> You know it all makes sense. > > Indeed. And thankfully our councillors saw sense today too. I don't > even > know what Alpine bearberry is! > > -- > Sigurd Towrie > Blackhall - Kirbister - Stromness - Orkney > Heritage of Orkney: www.orkneyjar.com > Home: sigurd@orkneyjar.com > Work: sigurd.towrie@orcadian.co.uk > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the > word > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com >

Tis somehow not surprising that this common bearberry be discarded as an emblem. I have always observed that the seals that inhabit the coastlines of those precious islands, deserve some credit for surviving. They appear a s sentry seals, guarding the lands from foreign invaders. Why not a critter instead of a plant? Just a thought. We in Canada have the beaver as an emblem. I always felt seals were more photogenic. This was a very interesting posting Sigurd. Thankyou. Stephen (Canorky) On Tuesday, September 21, 2004, at 02:33 PM, Sigurd Towrie wrote: > On 21 September 2004 16:53, Wolfgang Schlick wrote: > >>>>> Proposals to adopt the Alpine bearberry as an official Orkney >>>>> emblem, met with a resounding "no" today, as islands' councillors >>>>> halted the idea in its tracks. (Orcadian today) >> >> Sorry, I always thought that Orkney has the yellow flags >> (plants, not the red crossed yellow flag :-) ) ... or was it >> just GMB's idea, who told me about that years ago ??? > > This is a scheme dreamt up by a Wildflower preservation organisation, > looking to have every county in Britain adopt a plant as an "emblem". > > I'm not sure of exact details, but the obvious choice of the Primula > Scotica, has already been "registered" by Caithness, so Orkney cant > use it. > -- > Sigurd Towrie > Blackhall - Kirbister - Stromness - Orkney > Heritage of Orkney: www.orkneyjar.com > Home: sigurd@orkneyjar.com > Work: sigurd.towrie@orcadian.co.uk > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the > word > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com >

Thanks for this. cheers Thompson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisbeth Jardine" <lisjardine@msn.com> To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [<orcadia>] Clapshot > In my v. basic Norwegian-English dictionary, I notice that the word for > "sticky snow" is klabbeforel, klabbe meaning "cloggy" as in "clabber", I > would presume? > > LJardine > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dutch Thompson" <dutchink@isn.net> > To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 3:06 PM > Subject: [<orcadia>] Clapshot > > >> Hi- >> Several cooknooks I have list Clapshot- neeps & tatties- as an Orkney >> dish. >> I've looked in the OED for an etymology of "clapshot" but not there and I >> can't find any reference to it in other cookbooks. >> Any ideas 1/ why it's considered Orcadian (as opposed to say Northern >> Scotland-it's listed in some cookbooks as a "Scottish" dish- but the >> Orkney recipes -I checked 3- all call for a pinch of nutmeg or mace) >> 2/ where does the word come from ? >> >> Thanks >> Thompson in Prince Edward Island, Canada, full of clapshot >> >> >> >> >> ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== >> To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the >> word >> 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com >> >> > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the word > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com >

I was visiting relatives there. I visited the "new" site at Skail, took pictures, and was given a "tour". I went to the "Orcadian" to renew my subscription in hopes of meeting Sigurd but no luck. Very nice to have the locals show me around = I never felt like a tourist. Marion from cold Maine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Irvine" <wji@shaw.ca> To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [<orcadia>] rootsweb > well, that's mighty generous of ya, maam ;-) > goodonya for 6-in-O (six in oh) six-weeks in O rkney > i got my forum-fix after finding the online archives previously noted > there's also an Orkney-L (and -D) email group and archive > after searching Orcadia-L 2000 C.E., i found some templar info > Search: Kirkwall and the Holy Grail > thnx again for your post and hope to read all about your journey > > bill > > my 1995 Orkney journey: > http://www.geocities.com/wjis21/irvinesinorkney/scotland.htm > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Marion <marion@pivot.net> > Date: Thursday, September 16, 2004 11:34 am > Subject: Re: [<orcadia>] rootsweb > > > I'll send you a message! > > I spent 6 weeks in Orkney, got home last night. Fantastic! my > > 4th trip. > > Marion - American Orcadian > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bill Irvine" <wji@shaw.ca> > > To: <ORCADIA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 2:08 PM > > Subject: [<orcadia>] rootsweb > > > > > > > "If you haven't heard a rumour by ten o'clock start one." > > > i haven't received an orcadia-L+rootsweb.com message since > > tuesday so i'll > > post one > > > roots-L(at)rootsweb.com has an online archive of all messages > > > i found the Orcadia online achiives at > > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ORCADIA.html > > > thnx > > > bill canadian orcadian > > > > > > > > > Bill Irvine > > > alternate email: wji@islandnet.com > > > > > > > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > > > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail > > with the word > > > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with > > the word > > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > ==== ORCADIA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Orcadia mailing list, send an e-mail with the word > 'unsubscribe' in the message body to orcadia-l-request@rootsweb.com > >