Sorry about those last 2 strange messages. I thought I had sent two to the group, and they went straight to Royce, and when I tired to fix it I made things worse. What I actually said was I've always liked, and carried with me to Orkney, the Orcadian's Wind Scale, has MPH, Km/Hr, knots and description. _http://www.orcadian.co.uk/weather/beaufort.htm_ (http://www.orcadian.co.uk/weather/beaufort.htm) Karen ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

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Think you are right....somehow,,it's still Monday! <g> R -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 11:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ORCADIA] Wind speeds Sorry about those last 2 strange messages. I thought I had sent two to the group, and they went straight to Royce, and when I tired to fix it I made things worse. What I actually said was I've always liked, and carried with me to Orkney, the Orcadian's Wind Scale, has MPH, Km/Hr, knots and description. _http://www.orcadian.co.uk/weather/beaufort.htm_ (http://www.orcadian.co.uk/weather/beaufort.htm) Karen ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Orcadia Group Photo Album http://tinyurl.com/28bx9x ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just a nice September breeze

Hello Royce - As a member of this far-flung community - if usually as a lurking one - I laud the possibility of us sharing a part of each others lives, as well as those in the Orkney communities! (phew - ran out of breath there...) Thanks you for your thoughtfulness in creating it as an option for us all! Jackie in Oakland, CA Royce Perry wrote: > I tend to agree Norman...in fact I sat on the idea for quite a while > wondering how the group would react. Case in point,,it must have been the > camel that broke the straws back for Fiona,,she just bailed out. > My hope is that the folks that are actually on Orkney will play an active > part in letting us "out worlders" get a better peek at what the reality on > the ground is. > >From a slightly different angle, this group itself is "connected" to > Orkney,,it is in a way an extended Orkney community. As such, we have a > certain amount of justified interest in each other as people. Used properly > a photo place where we can see each other and our surroundings is within the > remit of the group? > But I am certainly open to discussion and opposing opinions. > For what it's worth..the photo album is not part of the group as such...only > an external link to the site where it's hosted. > R > > -----Original Message----- > From: Norman Tulloch [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 12:28 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ORCADIA] Orcadia Group Photo Album > > > I must admit that I have reservations about the Orcadia Group Photo Album. > > To state the obvious, the Orcadia group is about Orkney. While I'd > welcome a photo album concerned with things Orcadian, I think that most > of the things that you mention in the list above are quite irrelevant to > the remit of the Orcadia list. > > The Orcadia Group Photo Album is a good idea, but not if it it is to > consist of pictures of things or people completely unconnected with Orkney. > > Sorry, but that's the way I feel. > > Norman Tulloch > > > > > _______________________________________ > Orcadia Group Photo Album > http://tinyurl.com/28bx9x > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Jacqueline Howell 510 302-4200 510 302-4242 FAX Receptionist/Asst. Site Administrator WestEd 300 Lakeside Drive, 25th Fl Oakland, CA 94612

Karen: Your picture of Stromness harbor is uploaded..Great shot..and the colors came out very pretty. Stephen??? You got any of that island you live one? Just as a casual observation over the years, nobody thinks anyone is interested in seeing pictures of the ordinary every day stuff they see around them...and in fact that is what folks from other areas usually are Most interested in. Being an Orkney group,,,those of us lost out here in the outer darkness are interested in almost anything on, in, or under the isles.... Just to keep it an even exchange,,,I can post all the pictures you guys might want of hot dry freeways and ugly tall buildings. Just let me know. <evil grin> R -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 11:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ORCADIA] Fwd: Orcadia Group Photo Album ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Orcadia Group Photo Album http://tinyurl.com/28bx9x ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bit of a breeze today so I see the Hamnavoe has two sailings cancelled, ditto pentland ferries, and a couple of the North Isles boats. Winter has come early...... Sian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Heddle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [ORCADIA] Ship Plotter - Orkney > There is a picture on the wonderful Orkneycommunities site showing > something along these lines: > http://www.orkneycommunities.co.uk/imagelibrary/picture/number2594.asp?st=hamnavoe > > Better still is the link in one of the comments below the picture, showing > a movie of the boat leaving Hoy Sound: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhsBfNxWILg > > It was lovely on Tuesday though. > Cheers, > Steven > > --- Steven Heddle, Newington, Holm Road, Kirkwall, Orkney KW15 1PY > --- E: [email protected] W: http://www.stevenheddle.co.uk > --- T: 01856 877119 M: 07719 762165 F: 08714 335639 Skype: therealkw15 >

Ummmm....Houston,,I think we have a problem. Since we have never done it before on this group I suspect that most of you don't know that Rootsweb (the site/software we are using) doesn't allow attachments. It will strip them...and if they are "inline" will strip the body of the message as well. Pictures to upload will need to be sent to me at [email protected] R -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 11:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ORCADIA] Fwd: Orcadia Group Photo Album ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Orcadia Group Photo Album http://tinyurl.com/28bx9x ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

{> on 9/14/07 11:45 AM <} Royce Perry wrote -- I tend to agree Norman...in fact I sat on the idea for quite a while wondering how the group would react. Case in point,,it must have been the camel that broke the straws back for Fiona,,she just bailed out. ````````````` Uh, Royce, don't take this wrong - but I don't think it is fair to name any person by actual name on the List who "just bails out" (your characterization). You have no idea of her reasons, unless she told you. (It could have been because of the onerous 35+ emails that have crowded into the List over just the past few days ... this can be a bit overwhelming to cull through, and some people just don't have the time to do this kind of constant email deleting.) I might note, too, that the Orkney Communities web site, and The Orcadian and the Orkney Library sites, have great photo sections. There are many places to "view Orkney" on-line, from afar. And I share lots of images with friends via private emailing. - Lisa

One more note -- Just because of the familiarity of the name, and not that everyone has a "corner" on that word in particular, I guess I just also would feel for Fiona on this mailing list, who has had a wonderful photo site for years on PictureTrail.com which she has already titled "Orcadia Images". I am partial to her great photos. - Lisa

I agree with Norman. An "Orcadia Group Photo Album" could very quickly balloon out of even your capable hands, Royce. Especially since: (1) the pix might have to be sent to Royce's email address (if you want this culling headache, have at it!), (2) Many of us would never visit the album, since the reason why we hope for a RootsWeb ORCADIA-list is to (hope to) learn about Orcadian lore, history, stories, music and etc. The effort on your part, Royce -- well, I would not envy you the time it will take you. What really is the purpose of such an photo album? I recognize the social networking aspect, but we can all get to know each other through our own PMs (private mail), and send pix that way. I'm not sure connecting it to the ORCADIA RootsWeb mailing list makes sense. Especially since cacti were never a thing I associated with Orkney? :) Lisa {> on 9/14/07 10:27 AM <} Norman Tulloch wrote -- Royce, I must admit that I have reservations about the Orcadia Group Photo Album. To state the obvious, the Orcadia group is about Orkney. While I'd welcome a photo album concerned with things Orcadian, I think that most of the things that you mention in the list above are quite irrelevant to the remit of the Orcadia list. The Orcadia Group Photo Album is a good idea, but not if it it is to consist of pictures of things or people completely unconnected with Orkney. Sorry, but that's the way I feel. Norman Tulloch Orcadia Group Photo Album http://tinyurl.com/28bx9x -------------------------------

Well, I for one love this idea. I like to see who the people I'm e-mailing look like - I sent my pictures already but I'm afaid they may be huge. Feel free to make them the right size. On Sep 14, 2007, at 10:19 AM, Royce Perry wrote: OK,, this may not work, but it's free so I thought we would give it a try. I have a paid Flickr online photo site. It's part of the AT&T DSL package for the computer at home or I wouldn't have signed up for the paid version as the free account gives you rather a lot of room to put photos online anyway. Anyway, short version I have unlimited storage, and Flickr is one of the better of this type of service. Soooo..I have created a "set" (rather like a folder on a computer) for our Orcadia group. Now we have a place for those that would like to share photos to put them. What made me think of it was the great pictures of everyday life on Graemsay that Sian showed us on her neighbors website. I am rambling.. right? So my suggestion is that anyone that wants' to share pictures of your part of the world,,anything you think the rest of us might be interested in..new grandbaby,,the deer that walked into your living room, (happened to a friend in Canada), the new post office,, sunsets, cactus,,snow.festivals in your area,,,dances at the local hall...you get the idea. No pictures of male strippers!!! <g>. You can email them to me and I will upload them to the group's set. Some folks are spooky about having their pictures online,,that's understandable,,so don't send those unless you are comfortable with it. Just FYI,,,when I caption pictures online I never use the persons real name anyway. Usually the nickname that the members of whatever group it is will recognize. The "testing" stuff yesterday was me making sure that I could get the link to this groups set to come through in the footer,,,look down at the bottom. You should see the link. That way we can remember where to find our photo album when we want to look at what someone has up,,or has just added. I "seeded" the set with a couple of pictures if you want to take a look. This is totally up to the group,,if no one wants to use it,,that's fine.those that do,,that's also fine. Charles..as far as I know you are the only professional photographer we have. I have set the options for this set to "All Rights Reserved".but I am not sure that protects the pictures from being downloaded..so if you chose to share a bit of your work (which would thrill the rest of us) be aware that you may not want to share anything that is marketable. In your case,,I would put your attribution and web address in the description block. Questions??? Good idea??? Bad Idea??? Thoughts??? R Orcadia Group Photo Album http://tinyurl.com/28bx9x ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Evelyn, Emma, Robbie & Spencer Sweet Pea Digory waiting at the Bridge (12/8/89 - 11/8/96) Help support Corgi Aid -- http://www.corgiaid.org/ Ohio Corgi Picnic - June 22, 2008 in Marion, Ohio http://homepage.mac.com/evelynhlabse/Home/home.html If God brings you to it, He will bring you through it.

Not sure how it will display on your computer,,but there should be a link right under the picture that says "Add a Comment" R -----Original Message----- From: Evelyn Hlabse [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 10:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ORCADIA] Orcadia Group Photo Album Now if only I could figure out how to make comments.

As to the Huge...that is one of the better features of Flickr,,it will take just about any reasonable sized image,,but displays them in standard sizes. No fiddling about sizing them before I upload. Not a big issue for ones and twos,,,,real pain in the southern regions when you get back from a festival or event and have a hundred or more....gack!!! R -----Original Message----- From: Evelyn Hlabse [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 9:45 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [ORCADIA] Orcadia Group Photo Album Well, I for one love this idea. I like to see who the people I'm e-mailing look like - I sent my pictures already but I'm afaid they may be huge. Feel free to make them the right size. On Sep 14, 2007, at 10:19 AM, Royce Perry wrote: OK,, this may not work, but it's free so I thought we would give it a try. I have a paid Flickr online photo site. It's part of the AT&T DSL package for the computer at home or I wouldn't have signed up for the paid version as the free account gives you rather a lot of room to put photos online anyway. Anyway, short version I have unlimited storage, and Flickr is one of the better of this type of service. Soooo..I have created a "set" (rather like a folder on a computer) for our Orcadia group. Now we have a place for those that would like to share photos to put them. What made me think of it was the great pictures of everyday life on Graemsay that Sian showed us on her neighbors website. I am rambling.. right? So my suggestion is that anyone that wants' to share pictures of your part of the world,,anything you think the rest of us might be interested in..new grandbaby,,the deer that walked into your living room, (happened to a friend in Canada), the new post office,, sunsets, cactus,,snow.festivals in your area,,,dances at the local hall...you get the idea. No pictures of male strippers!!! <g>. You can email them to me and I will upload them to the group's set. Some folks are spooky about having their pictures online,,that's understandable,,so don't send those unless you are comfortable with it. Just FYI,,,when I caption pictures online I never use the persons real name anyway. Usually the nickname that the members of whatever group it is will recognize. The "testing" stuff yesterday was me making sure that I could get the link to this groups set to come through in the footer,,,look down at the bottom. You should see the link. That way we can remember where to find our photo album when we want to look at what someone has up,,or has just added. I "seeded" the set with a couple of pictures if you want to take a look. This is totally up to the group,,if no one wants to use it,,that's fine.those that do,,that's also fine. Charles..as far as I know you are the only professional photographer we have. I have set the options for this set to "All Rights Reserved".but I am not sure that protects the pictures from being downloaded..so if you chose to share a bit of your work (which would thrill the rest of us) be aware that you may not want to share anything that is marketable. In your case,,I would put your attribution and web address in the description block. Questions??? Good idea??? Bad Idea??? Thoughts??? R Orcadia Group Photo Album http://tinyurl.com/28bx9x ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Evelyn, Emma, Robbie & Spencer Sweet Pea Digory waiting at the Bridge (12/8/89 - 11/8/96) Help support Corgi Aid -- http://www.corgiaid.org/ Ohio Corgi Picnic - June 22, 2008 in Marion, Ohio http://homepage.mac.com/evelynhlabse/Home/home.html If God brings you to it, He will bring you through it.

-----Original Message----- From: Royce Perry [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 10:10 AM To: 'Mike Clouston' Subject: RE: [ORCADIA] Wind speeds I stand corrected,,,you are, as you well know,,,absolutely right. I always get that turned back end to front. ;-) R -----Original Message----- From: Mike Clouston [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 10:00 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [ORCADIA] Wind speeds Royce Perry wrote: > A knot is just slightly less than a mile/hour....so yes...those speeds would > blow your hat off. > R Sorry you are wrong, Royce. A knot is more than one mile per hour. To convert knots to m.p.h. multiply by 1.15 50 knots = 57.5 m.p.h. We are just coming up to the autumn equinox in about another week or so. Gales can be relied upon at this time of year. -- Kind regards Mike Clouston

Got them..and have them uploaded....don't expect service like this all the time...I am seriously bored with work today. Just figured out how to deal with a touchy issue here. If I upload them with just a minimum title (file name) Flickr allows visitors to add comments. Soooooo.....that means that once I get your pictures up you can go in and add as much or as little (or none) information as you are comfortable with in the comment section...Haaaaa....that should work!!! R -----Original Message----- From: Evelyn Hlabse [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 9:45 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [ORCADIA] Orcadia Group Photo Album Well, I for one love this idea. I like to see who the people I'm e-mailing look like - I sent my pictures already but I'm afaid they may be huge. Feel free to make them the right size. On Sep 14, 2007, at 10:19 AM, Royce Perry wrote: OK,, this may not work, but it's free so I thought we would give it a try. I have a paid Flickr online photo site. It's part of the AT&T DSL package for the computer at home or I wouldn't have signed up for the paid version as the free account gives you rather a lot of room to put photos online anyway. Anyway, short version I have unlimited storage, and Flickr is one of the better of this type of service. Soooo..I have created a "set" (rather like a folder on a computer) for our Orcadia group. Now we have a place for those that would like to share photos to put them. What made me think of it was the great pictures of everyday life on Graemsay that Sian showed us on her neighbors website. I am rambling.. right? So my suggestion is that anyone that wants' to share pictures of your part of the world,,anything you think the rest of us might be interested in..new grandbaby,,the deer that walked into your living room, (happened to a friend in Canada), the new post office,, sunsets, cactus,,snow.festivals in your area,,,dances at the local hall...you get the idea. No pictures of male strippers!!! <g>. You can email them to me and I will upload them to the group's set. Some folks are spooky about having their pictures online,,that's understandable,,so don't send those unless you are comfortable with it. Just FYI,,,when I caption pictures online I never use the persons real name anyway. Usually the nickname that the members of whatever group it is will recognize. The "testing" stuff yesterday was me making sure that I could get the link to this groups set to come through in the footer,,,look down at the bottom. You should see the link. That way we can remember where to find our photo album when we want to look at what someone has up,,or has just added. I "seeded" the set with a couple of pictures if you want to take a look. This is totally up to the group,,if no one wants to use it,,that's fine.those that do,,that's also fine. Charles..as far as I know you are the only professional photographer we have. I have set the options for this set to "All Rights Reserved".but I am not sure that protects the pictures from being downloaded..so if you chose to share a bit of your work (which would thrill the rest of us) be aware that you may not want to share anything that is marketable. In your case,,I would put your attribution and web address in the description block. Questions??? Good idea??? Bad Idea??? Thoughts??? R Orcadia Group Photo Album http://tinyurl.com/28bx9x ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Evelyn, Emma, Robbie & Spencer Sweet Pea Digory waiting at the Bridge (12/8/89 - 11/8/96) Help support Corgi Aid -- http://www.corgiaid.org/ Ohio Corgi Picnic - June 22, 2008 in Marion, Ohio http://homepage.mac.com/evelynhlabse/Home/home.html If God brings you to it, He will bring you through it.

After reading Sian's postings, and surfing a bit of Graemsay, it seems that the lifestyle there is another succulent slice of unspoiled Orkney. One site suggested a population of 22 souls. Thus if someone there was to deliver triplets, it will amount to an unprecedented population boom. That Dec. ferry video online is a prize to be sure. I think they should charge double on those thrashing days on the basis of the experience...somewhat like a triple length midway ride at a fall fair I was wondering if someone could point me to some online photos that might be airphoto shots of the island, or scenery shots. I remember seeing a big hilly island west of hoy, and another one which was once privately owned. Hard to get a good photo fix, albeit I looked at the map. Nothing like a photo to set it right in the mind. Sian's description of the winter ferry arrangements and the fact that people often stay there for a month at a time, is interesting stuff. That attitude bodes well for a hikers b and b/retreat there. "Stop the Clock...Listen to Nature Sing...Visit Graemsay." Great to be able to hear from ya online Sian. You are a good ambassador for your fair Graemsay isle as Bruce is for Stronsay. Twould be a dream to live a quiet life there... feed the birds, raise a few grouse and highland cattle, and perhaps have a part time job such as being the designated temperature recorder, or the fellow who empties the rain meter and records the fall. Maybe keep a few hens and a noisy rooster too. When they get on your nerves...eat em! Then get new ones in the spring. cheers...stephen

Hi Sian Yes we would be delighted if the Graemsay sites link to OTG. We would also be very pleased if other islands or local sites wish to link to our site because the whole idea is to allow prospective visitors, visitors while they are here and local folk to find out about members' services throughout Orkney. The site is very much aimed at spreading visitors more widely. We are planning our own links section, but this is for the future as we are still developing the existing parts. I have not found the original GMB quotation yet, but I am sure I have it. regards Charles PS I spoke to the master of the Hamnavoe after the trip with the photos and he said it was fine, they did not slow down and the ship was handling very well. If you want a comparison of vessels try some of the newer calmac things like "Isle of Lewis" on a rough day. I suspect that Bruce would be eating his words pretty quickly about the quality of the vessel. Or maybe getting concerned about the rattles, creaks, thumps and bangs. And anyway the NorthLink food is much better.

A knot is just slightly less than a mile/hour....so yes...those speeds would blow your hat off. R -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sian Thomas Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ORCADIA] Wind speeds For those interested go to the web sitebelow and click on Live Weather. You can see winds speeds around Orkney. No idea what Knots is in mph though! All I can say is its a bit fresh today..... http://www.orkneyharbours.com/ Orcadia Group Photo Album http://tinyurl.com/28bx9x ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message